Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown vs Forza Horizon 5 - Physics and Details Comparison

[@mondodimotori]

One thing I've noticed driving around in TDU is that you get actually punished for driving off the asphalt: When you hit curbs or roadside elements not only you get speed penalty, your car also get unbalanced and you risk spinning out, especially without driving helps. I've spun several time in my first hour because I was always putting one or two wheels on the curb when cornering. That's an interesting quirk, because it rewards precise lines when driving. And something I never experienced in any Forza Horizon games, where I can tank through every curb/roadside element with minimal impact on my car and driving. Also I've read lot's of hate towards supposedly "bad optimization". Even if it's a pre release demo (and we don't even now when this build was compiled), the game feels pretty optimized alredy. I'm running it on a Ryzen 3600 and an RX5700, hardware that was considered mid tier alredy in 2019, and it can be even surpassed by current entry level hardware. And yet, at almost all lowest settings/ 1080p native (and max texture/anisotropic filter) I can almost hit consistently 60 FPS, and I'm always GPU limited, not CPU limited. Even the 8GB vram of my GPUs are less of a problem tha I expected. No stuttering, no shader compilation crap. And if I really don't care about FPS, I can cap the game at 30 (via drivers), almost max out the settings, and get rocksolid 30 FPS, still within the 8Gv frame buffer of my GPU. Of course, there it's a matter of preferences. I could even cap the game at 40 fps. The point of contention is: This is an MMO, it's being sold and marketed as an MMO. On STEAM the word MMO is one of the first you read in the game decription. Meaning it's always online. And, like any MMO in history, sooner or later is gonna shut down. Even the past two games, even if they had an offline component, suffered quite some cut contents when their server shut down. That's what's gonna break or make this game: how long will the servers live/eventual offline mode at the end of services. And if the game is not a success, those server may be closed much sooner than expected.

[@DajjalSlayers]

agree . I'd rather lock my game than get high fps but like shit. btw I can run almost game 100+ fps but I prefer lock 60

[@Tony-cd2gb]

N Ne

[@kedwyd6535]

For being a small budget game, TDU Solar Crown is getting alot of things right

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

But getting alot of hate bc of graphics

[@InfiniteBullets2]

@@Nobody_PlaysGames the graphics are fabulous, just a few improvements and it already looks better than fh5 because of its scenery

[@mondodimotori]

@@Nobody_PlaysGames It has the problems of open world with real time day/night cycle. The more light sources there are around, the better it looks. That's why it looks flat in the daylight but astounding at night. Of course, this is just a pre release demo, we don't even know when this build was compiled.

[@sandcrakes]

​@@mondodimotoriI thought of the same thing. In day time, Solar Crown looks like a cheap mobile game, but it is fantastic at night

[@schnitzel_enjoyer]

They spent a bit too much hiring KZbin streamers

[@cardinal151515]

FH5 is definitely better in a lot of aspects because its an AAA game. TDU on the other hand looks impressive for a small budget game. It has a lot of potential. They just need to fix the bugs and optimize it better.

[@od13166]

For 3month? not gonna happen

[@caley1942]

@@od13166 I agree with you, 3 months is not much, my hope is that Nacon will delay it by few more months or that this demo was ready to be shipped for some time and it isn't a representation of their most recent version of the game, but just a public stress test for their servers.

[@od13166]

@@caley1942 trailer visual was same as demo at this point

[@LEXZYEDITS]

That's just quite strange that TDU's budget is way smaller, but the price for the pre-order is the exact same to FH5 when it was just released. Really hope the price will be lower when Solar Crown releases completely, cause there's not a lot of people who would agree to pay $59 for that game...

[@mondodimotori]

@@LEXZYEDITS that's because it will probably move less copies than forza horizon. Ps, 70 bucks for a game in 2024 are still little. When you factor in inflation, games on super Nintendo used to be much more expensive than games today

[@batata4862]

Test drive map isn't just countryside generated map, its a win to tdu, sound is way better in tdu tho, comparing tdu 2 to tdu solar crown its a huge upgrade, but comparing fh3 to fh5 there is barely any great upgrade. I think tdu developers are doing a great job

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

Exactly I'm in a test drive unlimited solar crown group on FB and 80% of the group is crying

[@horvathr95]

I'm sorry what? TDU SC is a huge upgrade to TDU2? Oh come ooon, dont make me laugh. But ok, lets OBJECTIVELY examine it. No bikes, no police, much, much smaller map, online-only. Lets see the upgrades. Uhmmm, maybe better physics compared to TDU2 (but not to TDU1). Or better sounds? And pretty much thats it. Meanwhile going from FH3 to FH5 we had eliminator, eventlab, more customization, more cars, seasons, bigger map etc.

[@batata4862]

@@horvathr95 I don't care about police, police chases are so shit, why do every racing game has to have it? Tdu 2 had a shit police chase and I don't like it, it's a smaller map like Ibiza, the difference is that they didn't put Hawaii again, bikes was a dlc in tdu 2, maybe it will be a dlc tho, and the physics of the car is the main reason I play racing games

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

@horvathr95 forza 1-3 was the last greats of forza horizon But f... that u really haven't examine the game have u the racing world needs test drive bc the rest dgaf and has been giving us they ahh too kiss every time the make promises but given us copy and paste shii, SO WHAT we can have all the cars in the world still won't make a game fun too play and FORZA is the prime 400+ cars with a big ahh map with no scenery, no city, bs seasons, the cars feel like remote control simply bc u can't do any no light, no wipers, no windows, no nothing but hey u got a collection of cars that sound the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kenshin0_4]

FH4 and FH5 are just copy and paste.

[@grigorisbagiaras8065]

The copium in these comments is reaching ridiculous levels..

[@microthecat]

I like TDU map, Forza map kinda boring for me

[@alexj.5207]

car sounds are much better in tdu

[@kak8895]

Sounds are average in both. Sounds nothing like a V8 stang

[@Toxic2T]

Theyre about the same.

[@Janimaster100]

you have problems with the hearing mate :))))

[@allevosyndicate2475]

​@@kak8895🤔

[@greensamurai5805]

The rumble of the flat crank sounds alot more accurate on TDUSC I agree!

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

One thing i noticed is tdusc traffic be listening to music and the named cars have backfire

[@Michael27Romero]

"When you are able to go off-road and climb mountains, it's not the same level of simulation like a Formula 1 or WRC game," Jarniou explained. "The idea is to be more simulation than The Crew or Forza Horizon, which are quite arcadey." "Part of the enjoyment of driving is to have something that's realistic but not too simulation. But we want to give players the freedom to tweak driving aids to get something that's closer to simulation if they want." 💀

[@pan7k]

TDU does not look to me as a “small, low budget game” at all.

[@kaiherrmann9481]

When you see this video, you know how good Forza Horizon 5 actually is. I think we should also be grateful for what a great time we live in playing video games.

[@Yakffe]

Forza is an excellent game. Beautiful graphics and good optimization, fun handling physics, a huge car collection (+800 unique cars) and most of them can be modified for different purposes (drift/racing/rally etc..) My biggest criticism of it would be the map. But that’s just me. I prefer modern cities when I’m driving modern cars. The fundamental are done right, just needs some polishing

[@jacobisaac9934]

Comparing a beta to a finished game real nice

[@corollavirus4age]

certified mustang experience

[@wingo44]

Forza ever!!!

[@ld9387]

Really impressed by Test Drive

[@thenoblegerman2637]

Wait, is this the same TDU series that started out on the Xbox 360 and the map was Honolulu, Hawaii?

[@Lootward]

Yes, it is.

[@JEKitchens]

Just a reminder TduSC wont release for another 3 months and the Demo is likely closer to beta test build since it takes lots of time to tidy up code before release

[@kanob6440]

Don't forget the main thing....this is a DEMO. It's not even finished yet

[@yuzu54o]

Hope TDU city will not be as dead as Forza

[@EvolutionBG]

It's even worse lmao

[@kedwyd6535]

@@EvolutionBGthey lessened the traffic for beta since they didn’t optimize the game yet

[@sumdued]

@@EvolutionBGEven if it feels dead (which it doesn’t, Forza is way more dead), at least it’s a modern city. FH5’s entire map feels 60 years old

[@rayfighter]

@@sumdued modern cities have people in it. (FH does) modern cities are not all just repeating concrete apartment buildings, they have family houses too. modern cities have memorable places in them with landmarks (FH5 does) Ferrari dealerships look noticably different from cheap asian brand shops in actual world (and in TDU2 world too). FH5 entire map is Mexico, and if it feels dead for some teen Tokyodrift FF fan, sure, but calling TDUSC city vibrant and lively is just ludicrous.

[@sumdued]

@@rayfighter FH5 may have people in its city, but they're hidden in corners to the point where you forget there are actually people. Hong Kong has very few single family homes due to the low availability and high demand of homes. It also has landmarks too like the Bank of China Tower. I never called TDUSC lively and vibrant, just not dead. And there are countless videos of people criticizing FH5's dead map

[@JakkReacher]

It don't really matter what forza is compared to it'll be my go to driver. Forza might not get the sounds correcty all the time but its times better than any of its comp. I think they blew it out the park with tuning. You basically can make whatever you wNt however you want. Its 80/100 of a game for me. Next wouldve bene DriveClub for sure but that's old news now 😑 i wNted to see them win

[@vitalll84]

TDU is absolutely another game! It’s not for Horizon or Crew fans? Yes, TDU is poorer, cheaper, has less graphics and bad optimization, but Tdu has a completely different approach to car physics, this is due to an experienced developer of rally simulators and the implementation of physx. This is not another Horizon and I am very happy about it.

[@yanis1065]

The TDU games never had a good physics, it always was it being a social racing game, that’s TDU

[@inAzaZelle]

On my laptop, Forza runs at 60fps on high, tdu 15 on low. I don't think they'll make it so I can play (

[@Kazz7420]

I don't understand the graphics criticism for TDU at all. Sure it's buggy and a bit unfinished at times, but it looks great still otherwise?

[@rayfighter]

the criticism is valid but harder to put in words for lay people. It is the architecture and urbanism of the TDUSC world which is not immersive. (remember how in TDU2 the Ferrari dealership was so special compared to some cheap asian brand? Remember the villas on special spots? When did you spot any family house in TDUSC? Everything is just Radiant/SolarCrown. Roads network feel like hot-wheels track. It is just shit, and cannot be easily changed in few months time to the release).

[@julianandresful]

doesnt look great to me tbh, maybe at night its more decent but overall not good looking

[@alexj.5207]

things can still change when they release the game

[@Nightboytothetop]

But they won’t maybe a few bugs

[@od13166]

its been 3month left to go wolrd wide lol

[@alexj.5207]

@@od13166 but it could also be an old version

[@od13166]

@@alexj.5207 we seen lot of beta that never changed even Motofest NDA beta VS Release difference to TDSC motofest was runs solid

[@jacobisaac9934]

​@od13166 seeing this now makes yall look ridiculous its quite funny

[@ultimateX786]

Remember FH5 is AAA and TDU is AA - FH5 map is a complete wasteland and feels boring while TDU map is 1:1 Scale of Hong Kong Island. For me, TDU wins 🏆 ❤

[@VancouverCanucksRock]

TDU has punished players for hitting sh++. While Horizon gives you points for that sh++, no less.

[@junior_hub7]

The physics of rubber deformation as in the mafia is at the highest level

[@colebauer5999]

Comparing demo to a fully released game, when the game fully drops we will see

[@Qur-Ban]

Bro is the TDU solar crown is offline or online in ps5

[@brahimabaradji1402]

4:08 😆🤣😂

[@cosmichi-fi3308]

MEEP!

[@darkonojic7494]

TDU looks like free android game.

[@JakubixIsHere]

Have you seen android Game like that?

[@gaara4667]

Which game looks like that? I gotta know

[@KingOfNothing-il1ql]

Make an android game like that show me

[@itailh777]

asphalt 9 better

[@KingOfNothing-il1ql]

@@itailh777 no bro

[@hkgamer797]

Bro Drifting in Forza Horizon 5 is so satisfying TDU Solar Crown will never beat that 😏♥️

[@nicholasdipilla6993]

Yeah cause it's super easy and not realistic at all maybe? Horizon is more arcade than sim which make it feel dull after a while. At least now in tdu , cars seems to have a feel when you turn and how they handle

[@shaunvdm7127]

Forza horizon all the way

[@mattias1099]

TDU:s graphics give me a headache

[@Enes1967]

Im no fan of both but I don't understand the critics on TDU graphics. It looks pretty much the same as Horizon.

[@levs.7325]

Horizon has more natural physics to me(on wheel) and better tuning, however YOU has 10 times better map. Too bad it's so bad optimised, might be interesting

[@Michael27Romero]

Drift physics way better on FH5

[@nicholasdipilla6993]

Way better? Tdu is in beta state and it already look more realistic than horizon.

[@metaridley77]

The camera in TDU is horrible

[@dmitrit.4862]

TDU's handling seems a bit shitty tbh. Reminds me of the last NFS games which were all crap.

[@Teaandcrumpets134]

Forza better controls and payouts. Etc and you can chill more and cruise with the crew online.

[@aomine6817]

test drive unlimited? more like test drive UNFINISHED

[@moonshredder5181]

TDU needs to have more smoke from the tires

[@Proofenemy1]

TDI SC IS SHIT FOR FULL PRICE. sale 95% maybe

[@akiplay312]

Horizon 5 will still be the most played racing game of this generation no matter what.... Steam numbers are still high up. I really doubt that TDU SC will keep it's player base for more than a year.

[@adlibbed2138]

>TDUSC >player base >always online as soon as these jokers announces TDUSC will be always online, I genuinely doubt it'll kept it's already fringe playerbase hooked up, much less maintaining the servers because The Crew 1 sets a textbook example of what happens when an always online game are no longer feasible to maintain years later from now according to publisher, as in you just straight up cannot play the game anymore

[@akiplay312]

@@adlibbed2138 for real. The whole game in question is a flop. It'll need at least one more year of polish to be finished imo. Nowhere near the quality of crew or forza series. Ik it's a low budget studio but man a forza horizon 2 from 2014 looks miles ahead of TDU SC. The ForzaTech engine is just magic and the developers at PlayGround Games are wizards.

[@adlibbed2138]

​@@akiplay312not to mention the lack of properties for sale at launch, which is staple feature of TDU

[@lieutenantcandlewax]

Forza is better and it's not even close.

[@Christopher000]

TDU solar Crown handling is pathetic and unrealistic... graphics were still adequate in the 2010s. They tried to copy it... Everyone wants to be Forza Horizon 5... Go Home TDU , you are drunk.....

[@JakubixIsHere]

No one cares? They only took pr system from forza modified it and speedtraps. And anything else was their own idea

[@nicholasdipilla6993]

Go enjoy doing a 5 kilometer long "drift" in your awd subaru at 300 km/h in your arcade kid game and leave people who actually enjoy realism play tdu.

[@akaslammed3628]

@@nicholasdipilla6993enjoy your Arcady tdu game 😂😂, gran turismo 7 will beat your shitty game

[@aewmeu]

TEST DRIVE WINS!!!

[@julianandresful]

wins what

[@CHEV_CHELI0S]

It's quite nonsensical, as anyone familiar with game development knows that the early playable version of a game, in terms of graphics, details, and many additional visual enhancements, only reaches its full potential upon final release. Comparing a demo game, which is deliberately limited in its performance and offerings, with a fully developed game and drawing conclusions from that is simply.... let's uscall it: "unreasonable" 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️

[@schnitzel_enjoyer]

Test drive physics are cyberpunk 2077 level💀

[@mrfahad_0023]

Test Drive Unlimited😍

[@abdprz]

Forza sounds horrible

[@RellyG100]

Forza sucks. Both Motorsport and horizon. Wasn’t always the case tbh. They aren’t real car enthusiasts over there, neither are the player bases in the games

[@KullioLuu]

Thank me 3:07 later🥰

[@MdAzrool-eq8wv]

I’d like to play tdu but i just feel annoyed to the camera view everytime i start running the car and stop the car it feels like playing nfsu

[@EvolutionBG]

I'm sorry, but Forza Horizon 5 is miles ahead of the Solar Crown.

[@kedwyd6535]

Only thing better than is graphics and camera angles. Everything else goes to TDU

[@sumdued]

FH5 also has a way bigger budget. TDUSC is quite impressive for a non-AAA game tbh

[@schnitzel_enjoyer]

@@kedwyd6535 Most sane tdu fanboy

[@alexgreg152]

​@@schnitzel_enjoyer fh fanboys are the worst tho. And they are way more than tdu.

[@kingperfection1868]

I'd disagree forza has gotten so stuck in their ways it isn't that good anymore

[@derekcole1858]

Does the turbo gauges work in test drive? They all work great in forza

[@polarbear333_tistory]

TDU SC has decade old, mobile like graphics but better engine sound than Horizon 5.

[@SKEAPR]

Forza is better…

[@DeathStarGaming59]

for there even to be a debate forza wins , td is new game in 2024 should be wayyyyyy more impresive . forza has its flaws but still wins in my books sadly . I WISH TD WAS BETTER SO SAD

[@idek3867]

Fh5 has a lot bigger budget and is kinda underwhelming imo. Wish both games had more customisation and that tdu had a lot more cars tho.

[@breizhbeard3533]

AA handy crafted game > AAA billionaire company game

[@Curvedach_7]

Nothing can beat Forza 💀💀💀

[@wydua]

even old forza can beat forza so huh

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

😂😂😂😂

[@gogeta4001]

@@wydua i get what your saying but its still the same franchise so huh

[@wydua]

@@gogeta4001 no, this is not solid snake

[@YannnickRauudy]

Test drive Solar crown looks better and more realistic

[@burgadahz17]

TDU map is PEAK ngl.

[@shinjicito]

pues todos hablan de los graficos y yo no veo tanta diferencia la verdad

[@farjamomid]

Definitely forza is better

[@hueyfreemanhisanimatedfrie925]

The Mustang in Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown is a US spec model, right? WHY DOES IT HAVE EUROPEAN SPEC WING MIRRORS?

[@Peaceiscoming669]

You forgot the elephant in the room, why does it have turbo? 😂

[@JakubixIsHere]

Because studio is french and they are not stupid to ship one car from us

[@elker7862]

la conduite sur test drive est mieux sur forza ca ne change pas trop d'un vehicule a l'autre

[@kayyow7337]

Forza’s car felt heavy.

[@webserveis3498]

The particles is a joke 😢

[@ItsMeRifan41]

test drive unlimited solar crown just like a carx street but pc version😂😂😂

[@White-hj1nk]

Because Test drive is AA game not AAA like Forza

[@MrMythosisgone]

That may be true, but TDU Deva and players always compare TDU to FH, when in reality TDU has horrible handling and subpar graphics.

[@NutSac78]

Woman's driving simulator.

[@mooauto2388]

Tdu solar crown = the crew MF

[@Nightboytothetop]

🧢 motorfest is by far better, so is forza

[@tawfeeqsh]

tdusc is a much better game than tcm even in this beta state, but i still prefer forza over both of them

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

I barely played TCM and paid £40 for it... Just feels childish - TDUSC takes a lot of skill to perfect without traction control with manual gearbox etc and needs a lot more fine tuning too.. Here's hoping but I have been playing the demo since it was released almost non stop in my free time!!

[@Nobody_PlaysGames]

​@Midnightvq I regret pre ordering both games but motorfest really did it for me 100+ for something that could've been a DLC

[@tawfeeqsh]

@@Nobody_PlaysGames yeah well i was wise enough not to buy tcm at all after trying it in the open beta

[@hendrickvanmahendra5061]

Tdu sc is on demo its gonna beat fh5 👆🤓

[@AvarageUser]

FH5: 8/10, TDUSC: 5/10

[@JakubixIsHere]

You know this is demo?

[@AvarageUser]

@@JakubixIsHere what a braindead comment ...

[@Mr.Crashout.730]

I drove a 2020 mustang gt in real life …forza sounds nothing like it …like where tf did they get that sound from lol they just created what they think it sounds like lol ….test drive is literally spot on …no lies

[@TheKadirovstas]

that camera shaking is horrible in TDu its make me to 🤮after 1 hour of playing.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

It's one click to turn it off 🙄

[@ginomoscadelli1014]

Fh5 best

[@jasonpcy]

Mobile game vs console game😊

[@aartwallow]

TDU looks pretty good for such a small developer

[@justperson3542]

Really nice engine sounds on TDU

[@carrosdesegunda3684]

Forza god

[@GTI-Race]

FH5 Ultragraphics, Bro, come to the channel. The author has great content, keep it up🦸