Test GH5 vs BMPCC4K ⎪Lumix 12-35mm ⎪ZEISS 15,21,35 & 50mm

This is an informal, by no means a scientific comparison of the GH5 & the BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K in connection with a Set of ZEISS ZE Distagon Primes.
On the BMPCC4K I recorded to SSD Disk in Apple ProRes HQ, UHD.
And on the GH5 in UHD as well, as MOV Files 400mbps in 10Bit.
Lit by Sunlight and a SWIT BiColor Light Panel in 45 degree angle.
Grading was done in DaVinci Resolve V15.
Download LUTs here (for BMPCC4K, GH5 & GH5 Monitor LUT):
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Here the video for the GH6 LUT Version Test
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Since many of you asked for a Tutorial regarding this grade, here it is: • Tutorial for GH5 / BMP...
If you created something using that LUT, I'd be super curious & proud if you'd post a link to that work in the comments!
Special thanx to GLIKSON Camera Rental House.
Grading Reel:
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music: "When I get there" by Maya Isac.

[@chachie12345]

I know others have written this in the comments but FOR REAL you need to do a color grading video. This looks so good. Just wanted to add one more vote, Looks awesome!!!

[@taikang]

I really love all you guys for writing this and truly honours me. Keep check this video in about 7-9 days. Until then, I will have time to do one, and will ad the link in the description of this video.

[@taikang]

Tutorial now online.

[@ekphotography]

The win is for the Zeiss lenses!!

[@taikang]

Hahahaha, true. Same comments came when posted on the Site of the Rental House in TLV where we did the test.

[@ekphotography]

Sascha Engel yes, I believe it. Lenses make a huge difference. Your footage looks great with both cameras.

[@taikang]

Update: In 2-3 days there will be a tutorial regarding the grade.

[@nickmarz2507]

Hey, im having issues downloading the LUT. It says it has expired. any other way to get it.

[@AlfredGainesjr]

Where can I find the lut ?

[@tomemartins4427]

i love these two cameras... frankly i am not going to buy the gh6... the gh5 is amazing in the company of the blackmagic 4k pro... thanks for your contribution

[@PaulStephenson003]

Background: I'm an amateur with a GH5 for mostly work related training video creation. I watched to learn more of what the GH5 is capable of, and I'm again impressed by what the pros can do with that camera! Great video - thanks for sharing.

[@taikang]

Thank you for watching.

[@Houstnwehavuhoh]

Holy hell these colors man. Great comparison too

[@taikang]

thanx!

[@taikang]

!!!! UPDATE: LINK TO LUT WORKING AGAIN !!! Hi Everybody, since I got several request to make a LUT from this grade. Since you rubbed the Bottle so nicely, the Genie granted the wish. It's 3 LUTs: The GH5 & BMPCC4K Cube LUT and also the GH5 version for loading it on the camera as monitor LUT: *wetransfer.com/downloads/6ff1c18bdff37e67223e1f68ddd6850720190909122919/00872ed5b75ce30bdcb1ecbe2717dd8920190909122919/abe997* *If you created something using that LUT, I'd be super curious & proud if you'd post a link to that work in the comments!*

[@mgrgin]

Subscribed!! Thank you!!:)

[@taikang]

@@mgrgin My pleasure. Enjoy.

[@abbymotionfilms3963]

Thank you! Subbed! More videos please!

[@juniorrodrigues1805]

thanks dude!!

[@johnnyrocks9]

Wow thank you so much

[@svetvhledacku]

Nice test. I bought GH5 two years ago and i loved it. I made feature documentaries with it and now i switched to Pocket 4k. Its great camera. It has way better image, but i am a little bit slower with it.

[@taikang]

Same for us. Our studio uses the GH5 as work horse since 2 years. But we do rent for specific jobs now, also the BMPCC4K (specially when low light strength is needed). Think of adding it also into the fleet of our studio gear. Amazing piece of gear. But the low price is slightly fooling: Since the battery life suck, you need some serious cage/rails set up and adjust some V-Lock Batteries. It's still an insanely cheap set up.

[@svetvhledacku]

​@@taikang I know and you are right. I bought a lot of acessories from smallrig and Tilta. I use Tilta plate with F970 batteries and it works great. Way batter than Canon LP6. Samsung T5 SSD is great and cheap also.

[@roblivings7447]

@@taikang I highly recommend the juicebox battery (around $120 for the kit). Sits right on top of the camera (or mounts to side of cage), and gives you 3 hours of recording time. Smaller than V-mount, so if you have 2, you can just switch out as you need. But one should last all day if you're nice about turning your camera off. That said, I prefer the GH5. Panasonic have always been better about batteries than Canon, Sony, Blackmagic.

[@productorawonder4266]

Hi Sascha! your work is amazing and beautiful. 1 year ago I was able to download the lut, but I have lost it and now the link has expired. Can you update the download link? please! :(

[@chrismorenomccarthy8487]

Dude. If you did a color grading tutorial. Id pay for it.

[@taikang]

Thanx, that is very nice of you to say! No need to pay, I will do it, but have to hunt down some deadlines first.

[@angelcastro_WRR]

I will pay for it too.

[@taikang]

@@angelcastro_WRR It will come. promised! Give me another week.

[@nasri]

@@taikang Subbed and waiting!

[@mikes_perspective6580]

Sascha Engel i want lut!! I want lut!! I want lut!! Lol

[@freshfilms3529]

Could you make a video of your color grading workflow? Bitte bitte! 🌝

[@taikang]

As I wrote before, yes, but it has to wait a little. I am juggling several documentaries parallel. As soon as there's a little air, I will do it.

[@freshfilms3529]

@@taikang Wow. da freu ich mich schon drauf. :)

[@taikang]

Tutorial now online.

[@freshfilms3529]

@@taikang nice thank you for the reminder 🌝

[@videocieldiffusion]

nice work. Maybe a side by side would have been perfect

[@taikang]

VIDEOCIEL I agree. Made for the myself in the first place and I wanted it sequential. But since I realised there’s an interest in test like that: next one I will publish again and taking that note with me.

[@georgeg6036]

Its a nice little lens(Lumix 12-35MM) on the BMPCC 4K. I love it!

[@taikang]

It is a workhorse lens. I use it a lot, specially when there's time limitations. But if I have a choice, the budget & time, I'd always choose the ZEISS Primes, or Primes in general, over Zoom lenses.

[@josip1382]

Had the opportunity to work with both cameras, love them both in a certain way. The thing I really like about GH5 is that it's loaded with features, it's beautiful, IBIS, histograms, profiles, codecs, frame rates etc. As for the Blackmagic - the dynamic range and the filmic (cinematic) feel to the image is just awesome, the colors are beautiful. Yeah, buying any of these two is a great stuff.

[@dj-7154]

that's interesting Josip as I own 3 BM cameras and feel the new 4k has lost it's filmic look... lighting is great and sharpness but don't feel as cinematic as my previous purchases e.g. old pocket, BMCC etc.

[@josip1382]

@@dj-7154 Yes Ive heard this from some people. I ment that the Pocket's image feels more cinematic compared to the GH5 on the output. As far as the old BM cameras - I worked with the old pocket and honestly I don't miss them. Especially when we talk about the ISO performance...

[@dj-7154]

@@josip1382 yeah I hear you... I just feel the colour science is so different on the 4k...

[@jayclas4023]

Sellican - I agree, the original pocket looked better!

[@dj-7154]

@@jayclas4023 glad you do Jay as some people can't see it.. But it's evident with a lot of test videos going up.. This one here is one of the best

[@ekphotography]

I am between the Zcam E2 and the BMPCC4K at the moment but will wait to see what the S1H and A7sIII bring to the table.

[@DrRishabhGarg]

Zcam e2 doesn't worth the Hassel instead invest in bmpcc4k, you'll get braw which have much better workflow than cinema DNG.

[@ekphotography]

Rishabh Shukla too many problems with BMPCC4K and I do not care about raw which the Zcam is getting soon and 1204k is AWESOME 🤩

[@justincase8731]

BEST COMPARISON SO FAR

[@taikang]

Thank you!

[@ingolfurarnar697]

Great comparison and awesome grading. On my phone I can't see any difference between cameras at all. Going to check better on my computer and tv tomorrow. But thanks for making a LUT for us from this. Looking forward to try it out. Cheers mate 👍 :)

[@taikang]

Ingólfur Arnar enjoy. My pleasure.

[@RayLoot]

I’m looking to upgrade from a G85, so I’ve been doing my homework on a few cameras. But in this video, I love the look of the BMPCC4K more than the GH5. Good video

[@taikang]

Ray Loot thanx. Yes, the BMPCC4K is an amazing film camera. It really depends what you need it for: they both have their up and down sides. If you also shoot stills it’s a no brainier:GH5. Also if you do lots of handhold work and need an IS. For film shooting in a controlled environment, the BMPCC4K has the edge. Specially in terms of skin colours and dynamic range. But both cameras are beasts, Specially, considering their low prices.

[@hudsonthecozy]

Your shutter "angel" is heavenly ;)

[@taikang]

hudsonthecozy hahahahaha. I was just waiting when the first one would spot it. After uploadingI saw that "i" and "e" switched position, but there was already views and people downloading the LUT so, I thought, I better live with the shame of a typo. ;-)

[@BloodSugarS3XMajik]

i really enjoyed this. This really gave me a new found faith in the GH5. In the end it's really about the camera operator's ability in camera and in post. I do however feel like the GH5 won this battle. People talk about how accurate the color science is for BMCC4K but I really noticed how your grading was extremely well received with the GH5 and it just seemed a bit more accurate.

[@taikang]

Thanx. Happy to hear.

[@MR.BUCK_MAN]

wow !! i loved the way you graded the footage , AWESOME , keep up the good work... 😀👏

[@taikang]

Thanx! :-)

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

This is great.. did u left the tint on default 10 on camera settings for bmpcc4k or did u adjust it to match the gh5..? thank u in advance..:)

[@taikang]

All tint adjustment & grading was done in DVR. BMPCC4K was set to Film Profile in standard settings.

[@MartinAaberge]

WOW!!! I had to watch this twice. The first time I was just sitting there in awe of all the amazing footage. Then I had to go back and check what was filmed with what. How do you find the RAW vs VLOG to work with? I'm considering buying one of these two cameras.

[@taikang]

Thank you for your kind words!! Both cameras are a pleasure to grade. VLog and BRaw reacts differently, but for both, you get the feeling for how to work with each one pretty fast. They are both great cameras, we are using both in the studio. It really depends on the project, but still if I had to choose only one of the two, I still stick with GH5, the better allrounder.

[@drewvans9442]

In love with what black magic is doing with their DR and highlight roll off. Glad I'm secured in picking up a G2! Awesome video man!

[@taikang]

thanx.

[@MoshitoFilms]

Good explanation 👏 Bravo. Please give us a working link for this LUTs

[@taikang]

Updated! Enjoy :-)

[@fourth1000]

the zeiss 35mm is phenomenal. get your hands on a voightlander 58mm 1.4 that lens is magical.

[@taikang]

Love Voightlander. But since I know my addiction to good lenses and their price, I avoided trying it out. ;-)

[@victorfilm_]

The grading is a little too saturated for my taste, however both cameras produce nice dynamic range. Thx for sharing, Sascha.

[@taikang]

I agree. For my personal taste also a tad too much, but I wanted to push SAT a little to see how that comes out in each of the cameras.

[@henrystephens8328]

@@taikang in ur opinion, is there any difference in the gh5's ability to grade?in terms of the BMPCC4K being able to shoot RAW?

[@taikang]

Henry Stephens you mean if the GH5s behaves different in Grading than the GH5? Slightly, specially in skin tones the GH5s has the edge over the GH5, but nothing to big. Getting them to look the same is a breeze in DVR. Regarding RAW recording: cannot say much,since all I shot so far with the BMPCC4K was ProResHQ.

[@boounce211]

Those cinema lenses Made such a difference to the image

[@Ishootyoudotcom]

Great, thank you. Making the wait for my BMPCC4K even worse.

[@taikang]

ishootyou.com 😂

[@MichaelRichards983]

I can't tell a difference between the two.

[@JKFLASH]

im in the same boat

[@szabolaszlo]

Hi Sascha! Amazing colours. Can you update the download link maybe? It is expired :( Thanks in advance!

[@jesuslover1896]

Awesome stuff. Just tried to download the LUTs but link is broken.

[@taikang]

re-uploaded

[@jesuslover1896]

@@taikang Thanks good sir.

[@rfx8459]

BMPCC4K easily. I don’t know if you did it here, but just shoot in RAW. It’s already ahead of most of the competition. 12 Bit color depth Vs GH5 10 bit, and Raw capabilities for uncompromised color grading, on Arri level. Tack on the fact you can shoot 60 FPS, 4K, 12 bit Raw?? $1350 plus Davinci Resolve studio it’s not even a comparison at this point Blackmagic killed it with this camera.

[@laimux222]

Some guys making these stupid comparisons video to compare incomparable things. Why some of them not to make a video to compare JPG vs RAW?

[@artemus80j.4]

Nevertheless, tools won’t make you a great filmmaker but really how much you know your craft.

[@PERIKLISTSINTZAS]

Excellent color grade for both cameras even the gh5 is 10 bit it seems ,too close with bmpc.From gh5 miss the good iso and the autofocus, and from the bmpcc miss the stabilization and the autofocus .Very tough decision for chosing for weddings but the gh5 has an andvatage here.Nice video demonstration by the way!

[@hawaiirealmedia5610]

BMPCC4k just looks nicer. But the GH5 seems good when you need an continuous focus with better stabilization. Seems lie the cameras are a good pair. GOOD TEST TOO!

[@taikang]

Hawaii RealMedia thanx. I agree, the BMPCC4K has a softer more cinematic feel to it an better skin tone out of the box. But also weaknesses compared to GH5. Really depends on the job and what you need.

[@taikang]

Actually they are a perfect pair: We do a documentary right now, using both parallel. Since each one is strong in the other one's weak spot, it's a match from heaven.

[@LuisCruz-yg6rs]

Nice video! Both of these cameras are a beast!

[@taikang]

Thank you. And yes, true: We use both cameras in our studio. Each one has its own strong points, depending on the project at hand.

[@LuisCruz-yg6rs]

@@taikang That is good to know. Ty very much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond, and enlight us with your knowledge, wisdom, and experiences.

[@taikang]

@@LuisCruz-yg6rs I used to profit a lot from KZbin. Just giving back.

[@ALarshin84]

could we get LUTS download link((

[@taikang]

Done!

[@claudio6032]

What a Cinematic Colorgrading. You should do a grading Video of this one! We would love it!!! :) These comparison Videos are realy helpfull! Thanks a lot Sascha.

[@taikang]

Thanx a lot. My pleasure. For now, I only had time to make a LUT from it for you guys. Tutorial will follow. Unfortunately, really busy shooting these days. In 1-2 weeks, I hope to find some time to do so.

[@claudio6032]

Sascha Engel oh, i didnt see the Lut to Download, you are Awesome! Thanx!!! :) Great work! Keep it up

[@OmarSherien]

Great work man, Subbed for the effort ❤️

[@taikang]

thanx!

[@MyStoryinKor]

The color is really nice. I'm trying to download lut and practice, but the link you wrote has expired. can you upload it again? thanks!!!

[@taikang]

done.

[@MyStoryinKor]

@@taikang thank you!

[@ivan90988ify]

Looks amazing! Thank you! Are you turn down to -5 sharpness & NR on GH5 or all set to 0 in this test?

[@taikang]

V-Log with -5.

[@PaulStephenson003]

​@@taikang - background: I'm an amateur. I use my GH5 to create lightboard videos, and my main goal is clarity and pop on the colors. Would you recommend V-Log with -5 contrast for that type of work too? (I'll try it regardless to see if it helps. I haven't been using VLog so far) For background, here's an example video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omnbZ6iud9OhfZo I try all sorts of different settings b/c I don't know enough, but I'm always interested in ideas to be more vivid, clear, pop(py), etc and that seems to be controlled by how well it's graded. :)

[@Bowsprit92]

Hey Sascha, the first time I saw this I fell in love with those Zeiss lenses and the colors. I been trying to figure out which lenses you used. Are those Zeiss Milvus Lenses? Because I can not seem ot find lenses labeled as Zeiss ZE Distagons for all those focal lengths... If you did not use the Milvus line - could you achieve such a result with them as well?

[@taikang]

It was ZEISS Distagons. You find them all on the website of GLIKSON - the rental house: www.arielglikson.com/product-category/cameras/lenses/

[@wilsoneusebio777]

GH5 is a Beast!! Looks with a better dynamic range and better colors... BBPCC 4K Los with great resolution as GH5.

[@madamamadama-qj1is]

hi man! love that color grade! can you update the we transfer link cause it has expired?

[@taikang]

Link is upgraded. Enjoy.

[@anastasiaviruch4978]

Bmpcc look like hollywood picture! Great camera but gh5 more usable

[@lequientbethel125]

This color grading is OUTSTANDING!!! Do you have custom LUTS?

[@chrisyfzr8532]

Can I download theses luts directly on to my bmpcc4k??

[@taikang]

I think, yes, you can upload CUBE Luts to the BMPCC4K, but I don't know how, did not do it yet.

[@VirtuosityToniLekic]

and Luts work in FCPX too right?

[@frEeTEknoPaRTy]

Hello Sascha! Thank you a lot for your work and videos. I have a question. I generally prefer the bmpcc 4k because the colours seem more natural than the gh5, especially the sky on the gh5 gets really unnatural, do you know why it is like this and do you think with a different colour grading process a result more close to the bmpcc could be achieved? In this really moment I can't choose between those 2 cameras, I would like the gh5 because it seems a bit more easy to use, but I really prefer the colours of the bmpcc 4k!

[@taikang]

Hi Hermes, I have to keep it short, but let me try to cover it all: the Skype difference has no importance: in this test I was solely focusing on matching skin tones, since I had to use both side by side and needed to be sure of that. Skin tones are the most difficult to fully match, and the most important. The Blues of the GH5 are pristine and nothing is wrong with them. In terms of handling the BMPCC4K ist a lot easier: simple and clear menu with a lot less functions than the GH5. It really depends, what your needs are. None of them is better nor worse. It’s all up to what you use it for: do you need more light sensitivity? An IBIS to be able to use Primes handhold? Do you also want to shoot stills or only film? Do you need to be able to have a compact set up or you don’t mind a bulky rig? Do you the set up to be water resistant? All those (and some more) question, when answered will indicate which one you need. In terms of looks: both are great. Keep in mind: when shooting log, for either one, you need to do some serious CC and Grading.

[@imovielt]

For project run&gun with gh5 and bmpcc 4k, what settings colors/lut's should I use to match it as close as possible, yours looks very accurate

[@taikang]

Actually mine was in the ballpark, but not highly accurate. Was a quick fix for the test. On a paid job I'd spend more time on it. Basically, it's tweaking push & pull in Lows, mids & highs, MidTone Detail, Contrast, Hue & SAT. Skin tones show the biggest difference, so I isolate them for the tweaking.

[@imovielt]

@@taikang Thank you for your quick response, I will continue to search for alternatives, maybe out there exists LUT which can be imported into BMPCC 4k which is close to GH5 one of the color profiles like Cinelike D or V.

[@taikang]

@@imovielt Problem with LUTs: There is no one size fits all. Always depends on the specific shots. It's almost impossible to avoid push&pull and tweaking, if you wanna get a 100% match. Otherwise we Colourists would be workless. ;-)

[@imovielt]

@@taikang Understood, not looking for 100% but something close would be very good, besides GH5 doesn't have VLOG

[@fangshizhu9383]

Beautiful grading!

[@taikang]

Fangshi Zhu she she.

[@kimdicentalevankim7023]

Amazing grade!

[@taikang]

Kim di centa le van kim thank you.

[@premshashi]

Could you post a link to the Zeiss prime lenses? Loved the grade and video. Subscribed!!

[@taikang]

Prem Shashi you will find them on B&H when searching for Zeiss ZE Distagon lenses.

[@producer2959]

Can We get the lut download link? The one in the description is expired. Thanks a lot your the best!

[@darrylsmith3102]

Good Test Boss. No Question those Totally different cams can really match for making a Cinematic film. Thanx for the share.

[@taikang]

DARRYL SMITH my pleasure.

[@A1Bokeh]

Man you’re color grading is so freakin good

[@taikang]

Tnx. Happy you like it.

[@krisztianhubler]

All lenses are sharp and test very well, Super Colors too.. Thanks. Now I want to buy a pro lens - lumix 12-35mm 2.8 or so 12-40mm :D

[@freejay3]

Nice lenses The BMPCC4k looks far more natural ... especially in the sky Better color science and more dynamic range

[@taikang]

Yes, I happen to agree, though I own a GH5. I also used the BMPCC4K on a low light shooting the other day. Pretty amazing low light capabilities. Not exactly a A7sII, but in the ballpark definitely. And seen what the camera actually costs, it's insane.

[@Norain1992]

hey there, They download link for the lut does not work anymore. :-/ Can you reupload it, please? :) Greetings

[@taikang]

Yes. But it will be only on Sunday. Out of town.

[@Norain1992]

@@taikang okay, no problem no hurry. 😊 Thanks a lot. :-)

[@taikang]

Done.

[@mekvisuals]

Beautiful colors you’ve got out of the GH5. Thinking about get the “v-log” cause of that.

[@taikang]

Thank you! Yes, V-Log - if you shoot video with the camera and not only stills - is a must. You get a lot more out of the 10-Bit files in the Grading.

[@-grey]

Nice grade. I should learn. That zeiss 30 and the Pocket 4k really look like cinema, but there's no doubt that the GH5 is a more versatile camera.

[@taikang]

Aligato Gozaimasu. Yes, indeed, true. good observation. Bottom Line: BMPCC4K looks more cinematic when graded and offers nicer roll-off in highlights and bigger DR. But in versatility you cannot beat the GH5...still my go to documentary camera.

[@jrlfilmprod1240]

Your lut and post-production on this is on POINT. I really like the film look !

[@taikang]

JRL FilmProd thanx a lot. Happy to hear.

[@dobzine]

Great video! What speedbooster did you use to attach the Ziess Lenses to the BMPCC 4K? Was it the viltrox ef-m2? I'm new to Ziess and I'm worried about buying one and it not being compatible. Thnx

[@taikang]

MetaBones Speed Booster XL 0.64 Canon EF Mount to M4/3.

[@cjmurr]

how can i get this lut (link didnt work) and a color grading tutorial

[@taikang]

Link is updated. Tutorial will follow.

[@cjmurr]

Sascha Engel Thank you Sascha

[@taikang]

Tutorial now online.

[@mmmDeez]

Thank you so much for using Zeiss primes (Zf?) on your tests. Going back and forth to get the 21mm for a wider field of view. How was your experience using the 21mm? Which speed booster are you using?

[@taikang]

It's ZEISS ZE. Yes, just shot yesterday with the 21mm again. Great lens. Using MetaBones SpeedBooster XL (x0.64).

[@nesquick3408]

hello! Luts are not available, could you please update it? Thanks

[@taikang]

Done.

[@VikramNeeham]

Great grading and the zeiss lens look awesome!

[@taikang]

thanx!

[@Viktor-ky1xf]

Thanks for video! I got question - does this lens have a linear focus ring? Interested in shooting video with follow focus.

[@taikang]

The ZEISS Distagons? Yes, they do. They work very well with FF.

[@Viktor-ky1xf]

@@taikang oh, i didnt write that i talking about lumix 12/35, what about lumix focus?

[@taikang]

The 12-35 is a fly-by-wire focus system, which is always a disaster when using FF. Only use manual lenses for that! @@Viktor-ky1xf

[@Viktor-ky1xf]

@@taikang thanks for quick answer!

[@hoangvunguyen9311]

Help! I shot a film in 4k 24fps, iso 400, 10bit Vlog mode. But when I went home and saw the footage, there was light amount of noise going on. Idk what is wrong.

[@taikang]

Actually, if it is a light amount of noise, that is perfectly normal. LOG in general is more noisy Profile. Just look at S-LOG3...looks like peaking into an anthill. That is why V-Log should be only used if the rushes enter a pro post pipeline after the shooting: Part of the grading is De-Noising. The internal Denoiser of DaVinci does a pretty decent job. For ISO400 noise more than enough (spatial DeNoise will do, no need even for temporary). In case, of harsher noise ISO1600 and above, you need a bigger gun: NEAT Video's DeNoiser.

[@hoangvunguyen9311]

Sascha Engel Oh I see now! I thought I did smt wrong because in this comparison video, ur footage looked so good and sharp :)

[@taikang]

Hoang Vu Nguyen it’s because it was graded in DaVinci Resolve. In that context also cleaning and sharpening happened - well the sharpening actually more to the BMPCC4K rushes.

[@davie3591]

could we get LUTS download link

[@taikang]

Link is updated

[@CarloTimothy]

great images. sub’d. few questions - which variable ND? and also, notice any IR option w the BMPCC4K?

[@taikang]

TIFF Variable ND. What you refer to with IR?

[@morgondickerson2086]

@@taikang He means infrared pollution

[@taikang]

@@morgondickerson2086 Thnx for clarification. No, I did not notice any. As far as I remember the IR Block was built-in the Variable ND. At least I had 0 problems with IR Pollution. Other option: The rental house had a B&W IR Cut Filter attached to the ND. Will have to check that next time I am there.

[@modiartstudio]

Hi! What’s your advice about which camera fit better for filmmaking: gh5 with ninja v or bmpcc 4K? Happy to find your opinion.

[@alinstancu1233]

Thanks. I like more the GH5...

[@taikang]

Alin Stancu matter of taste, I guess. I love my GH5, but do prefer skin tones of BM. The GH5 skin needs more tweaking. Each camera has its strong and weaker sides.

[@alinstancu1233]

@@taikang Maybe you can try the GHAlex Lut. It's an amazing tool for GH5 and GH5S....nofilmschool.com/GH5-GH5s-ALEXA-LUT

[@kleykov]

I've been looking for such comparison for so long) Thank you! Would be great If you upload source files so we could play with them)

[@taikang]

Thanx. Though I personally don't have a problem with sharing the Rushes for you guys to fool around with, it's more of a tech problem: We are speaking of nearly 50GB from the BMPCC4 & the GH5...little heavy.

[@joyster75]

the download link doesnt work anymore, can i have the link to the LUT please? :)

[@taikang]

I’ll update the download tomorrow again.

[@taikang]

done

[@joyster75]

@@taikang thank you sir!

[@andys8805]

Wow! I want to know where I can find the Shutter Angel on my camera! ;)

[@taikang]

Panasonic only delivers that to Dps with the last name Angel ;-)

[@youtec4964]

Hi Sascha, great job on your comparison! Looking forward to see more shots from you with the GH5. Could you reupload your LUT files?

[@taikang]

Hi Sebastian, I will re-upload the LUT. No Problem. Working currently on a tutorial about it. Just coming along slowly, since I am drowning in work. By the end of the week it will be finished though.

[@taikang]

Link ist wieder aktualisiert.

[@youtec4964]

@@taikang Sounds great and no rush, I know how hard it is to find some time for some hobby things like this here.

[@youtec4964]

@@taikang Dank dir, kannst du den Link in deiner Videobeschreibung nochmal überprüfen, bei mir geht er leider nicht :(

[@taikang]

@@youtec4964 good thing, though: My hobby is my work - film & theatre.

[@adambarna2326]

What kind of mount did you use? maybe this?"Metabones PL Lens to Micro Four Thirds Camera" what is the focal lenght?

[@taikang]

No PL Mount. The ZEISS have EF Mount and I used a Metabones Speedbooster to M4/3.

[@user-zy2fl2bc5t]

Hi! could you please reupload the luts? maybe not on wetransfer so you dont have to reupload them every time :D

[@taikang]

done. I prefer on WeTransfer. Like this, I keep track on the demand of the LUT and also: Interactions will keep the Video and the Link afloat in the cruel universe of algorithms.

[@FellaFilms]

Love the comparison and the grade! Link is down for the luts so if you can please reupload them, love the look

[@taikang]

Done.

[@FellaFilms]

@@taikang Thank you so much Sascha!

[@tihkal]

this is excellent, thank you

[@taikang]

thanx for watching!

[@ferrods]

Man Ive been shooting for years with my GH5 and I can never color grade like this..! Can you please teach me how you do it?

[@taikang]

Thanx. In the description is a link to a Tutorial for this specific grade.

[@billpolitis2831]

Where somebody can buy those lenses? any link...?Thanks

[@oladee9212]

would love to save this grade as a lut. its stunning

[@taikang]

Ola Dee thanx. I will export it as LUT and put it as a download link.

[@oladee9212]

@@taikang Much appreciated, look forward to it .

[@taikang]

@@oladee9212 Done. Look at my top pinned comment. Enjoy.

[@oladee9212]

@@taikang Thanks much appreciated. Subbed to your page too!

[@taikang]

@@oladee9212 Muchos Gracias. Also find us under Kino Kitchen on FB.

[@chipcreativeuk]

Amazing! Just another comment asking for the LUT pretty please, the link has expired! You've inspired me to give Davinci Resolve another try :) thank you!

[@taikang]

Done.

[@chipcreativeuk]

@@taikang thank you so much! Going to have a go following the tutorial this week.

[@taikang]

@@chipcreativeuk Enjoy.

[@S.Creations1]

Incredible work

[@taikang]

@@S.Creations1 thank you.

[@mikestuckey]

Subbed on the color grade alone!

[@taikang]

Mike Stuckey thanx. :-)

[@MatheusGuimaraes]

thank u for this

[@taikang]

You are welcome.

[@26alexxkidd]

Can we get a reupload please?

[@taikang]

done!

[@newtranslationmagazine]

Hi, could you please reupload the link? :)

[@HOANGJJNGUYEN]

400 ISO is the lowest we can do when filming Log profile??? I havent played with it yet.

[@taikang]

HOANG JJ NGUYEN 400 and 3200 are the native ISO settings. Wanted to run it on both cams on their natives.

[@nickruse2406]

Astounding, the shots look phenomenal! Really liked how this video was very straight forward and really helped me see the difference between the two cameras. Glad youtube recommended this to me :) Subscribed! Would love to see a video showing your color grading workflow.

[@taikang]

Nick Ruse thank you so much for the kind feedback. I never was intending to make reviews and tutorials, but by now, it seems, there is no way around it. I'm busy this week, and shooting next, but by the end of it, I should have some time, and will make a grading tut. First though I have to find a good screen capturing software... if I do it, it should be down right. :-)

[@frankman8389]

Both cameras are great. Thanks..

[@taikang]

Frankman exactly my thoughts: both are beasts, each one shines in a different area and has its place. Really depends on the job, and what it needs most.

[@FilmGradeIII]

Hey! I like the color of GH5 man! Did you use lut or just a standard 709?"

[@taikang]

Thethird no LUT one solution. First I graded, in a quick 4-5 node pass the BMPCC footage, then I did the GH5, trying to match it as close as possible. It's still sketchy since I did not wanna spend too much time on the grading and matching.

[@FilmGradeIII]

@@taikang oh! So you just match the grade from BMPCC4K? It's really amazing man!

[@FilmGradeIII]

Tutorial please! 🤣

[@taikang]

Thethird yes, first graded BM and then matched GH5, since V-Log is a total different animal than film profile. Yes, sure, if you want I can make a quick Tut. Probably, got some time next week. Will post the link here then.

[@FilmGradeIII]

@@taikang awesome man!! I'll wait for that. I still dont have VLog though. Lol

[@JackLove]

Zeiss is just awesome ! Is that fine to use 24mm 1.4 art lens with zeiss lens , hope there will be no footage difference .

[@taikang]

Jack Love yes, I think it is. There might be slight differences in sharpness, contrast and color interpretation, but nothing crazy. nothing you could not properly address in DVR.

[@AlfredGainesjr]

Anybody have the lut ?

[@svenschneider9811]

Hi, could you update the link please

[@taikang]

done.

[@smichael5547]

i have subscribed,the download link doesn't work anymore, can i have the link to the LUT please?

[@taikang]

You don't need to subscribe for the link. Some things in the life are still free. Updated it again. Enjoy

[@OB_shredder]

Native ISO is 800 for VLOG FYI. Great test otherwise. Both look pretty similar. BMPC definitely more flexible in post.

[@taikang]

Nope, sorry. For the GH5 native ISO is 400, at least according to Panasonic and they should know. Thanx for the compliments. :-)

[@muloka]

Nice test! Is the GH5 footage done with V-log firmware?

[@taikang]

Yes, V-Log. Btw. it's a Picture Profile. Firmware is the camera's software. No connection with PP. Thanx for the compliment.

[@VirtuosityToniLekic]

Love how your LuTS look like here! will they work good with cine-d profile on gh5 too?

[@taikang]

@@VirtuosityToniLekic Not really. They are custom tailored to V-Log, since I shot the test with V-Log PP.

[@VirtuosityToniLekic]

thanks Sascha, but you edited/color grade it in Resolve, will the Luts work in/with FCPX? can I get the same results without Resolve?

[@taikang]

@@VirtuosityToniLekic Basically, any NLE Software can read cube Luts if you use a LUT Reader Effect or Plug In. FCPX as well.

[@willvazquez3218]

Thanks for sharing the tests. What speed booster model did you use?

[@taikang]

Will Vazquez MetaBones SpeedBooster, XL, x0,64, M43 to Canon EF Mount.

[@GlennUpgraded]

Sascha Engel did you leitax or simmod your zeiss? What C/Y to EF adapter did you use?

[@taikang]

@@GlennUpgraded Not sure, I understand your Q: The Adapter is MetaBones SpeedBooster, and the ZEISS lenses are all Canon EF Mount.

[@GlennUpgraded]

Sascha Engel how’d you convert it to EF mount? They are Zeiss ZE? I thought you’re using the old contax zeiss.

[@taikang]

@@GlennUpgraded You can find all details about the used lenses here: www.arielglikson.com/product-category/cameras/lenses/?product_count=36

[@AlfredGainesjr]

How can I get this lut ?

[@taikang]

@@AlfredGainesjr remind me in 2 days. I will upload it again for you.

[@slalom1987]

​@@taikangi would love to try your luts with my GH5II too 😊 here is a reminder for a new link ❤ thanks

[@taikang]

It's renewed. Enjoy.

[@taikang]

@@slalom1987 LUTs are up again. Enjoy.

[@S.Creations1]

I have to ask, if you could only use 1 camera for the rest of your career, which would it be. Bmpcc 4k. Or GH5. You have one of the best color grades I've seen on a GH5.

[@taikang]

Thanx for the compliment. Your question is tricky and hard to answer: Our studio owns the GH5 for example - we bought it long before the BMPCC4K came out. We did hire for several works the BMPCC4K. There is no perfect camera for every job. When I need the internal IS for documentary work, plus being small and compact with yet great battery life - the GH5 is a no brainer. But then again for other type of works, we definitely prefer the BMPCC4K - so we rent it. At the end, it comes down to, type of projects is your main body of work: Buy your camera body according to that need. For the projects not covered by your choice, rent another model accordingly. Good luck!

[@S.Creations1]

@@taikang Great advice. Thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼