[Test] V3 Herta | A New Best DPS? | 3 Limited | Off-Element 0-Cycle

[@HoS_1412]

I'd say out of Aglaea, Fei and her, she is the least depenpent on Robin and the most flexible cuz of her high self-sufficiency. She is definitely the most newbie-friendly in term of how much investment you have to put in to make her strong, on top of having a high ceiling as well. She's not a must pull since we have a pretty solid roster of 2.x dps already, but if you're a crit team enjoyer and want to see big number then yeah. Also I think her eidolon is the best in the game. There is however a team building problem with her now. RMC used to be her BiS with how their E2 works. But now RMC particularly in Therta team is a lot weaker. I'm still finding the BiS team for Therta, sustain and sustainless.

[@AnataQQ]

Who would be her best 4th slot w/o Robin in sustainless team of RMC+Erudition battery ? Assuming your other side demands Robin more

[@HoS_1412]

@AnataQQ That's exactly what I'm researching

[@tranminhuc3593]

With the playstyle I'm seeing in this comp, would Sunday be more or less optimal to replace RMC in this setup? Ofc his buff can be off and lackluster when optimizing stats compared to others, but with how T-Herta playing around Ult into another turn, it feels like either Sunday, Ruan Mei or another 4* would be an effective solution. ' Also can you give the opinion about the other alternative for 4* Herta (as in the slot for the other Erudition character) being Serval Passkey, is she suitable for T-Herta now, given the changes as of now, also the pros and cons of that playstyle?

[@HoS_1412]

​@@tranminhuc3593in robin team, spamming skills is not an option. Small Herta can achieve more atk without using skill.

[@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048]

I’m going with Big Herta-Eru(Smol Herta/Serval/Jade)-Ruan Mei-Lingsha, and the overall damage calc I get is pretty good. If not against 4-5 enemies, Ruan Mei can also contribute in building stacks and giving 9 energy for Herta with her basic, and the stronger the Erudition pick the better the team damage are compared to RMC

[@bronben5479]

We’ve gone from speed tuning to energy tuning, this is fucked

[@farouktalbi863]

I feel like this is what we're heading towards with the 3.X meta what is Aglaea's 350 energy and The Herta 220 energy

[@dyouch]

havent seen you in a while HoSim waiting for your cooks. thank you for uploading

[@LPScarlex]

The funniest thing is the damage split for a dual "dps" setup lol The Herta casually clearing 200-300k per normal skill while puppet Herta doesn't even crack 50k with Robin buff

[@zannax351]

4 star herta in this team is as much of a damage dealer here as jiaoqiu is in an acheron team

[@Radiant450]

@@zannax351thats a bit of a stretch, JQ does cheeks for damage ngl, actual cheeks unless you kinda optimize him for damage and own his sig, base herta does something at least.

[@environmental2117]

@@Radiant450did you watch the video? Look at base herta’s damage

[@Dlas550]

Lil herta was poorly built tho

[@FioraSlayer]

because puppet herta build wasn't meant for dmg but battery

[@guidomista5738]

> 0 cycle > off-elemet > S0 > E0 (not even a 5* LC so are the rest) > 2/3 other teammates are free Jesus Christ

[@Nobu6]

Robin is E1 for res pen

[@dyasion]

2 S5 BP light cones and 2 S5 gacha light cones. This is hardly F2P.

[@guidomista5738]

@@dyasion are these LC 5*? Did I mention anything about f2p?

[@Damons11]

but its God tier stat for F2P to be honest

[@discreaminant]

@@dyasion hardly? Straight up not f2p for BP 😆

[@RyougiVector]

perception boss fight music is so hype, bless you for reminding me. maybe i'll try to clear her on hard difficulty soon

[@lorenzlighter]

2/4 of the team is free, and one is a unit that the majority of players have. And this is her output. This is a true emanator

[@jellythewomanconsumer1590]

Majority of the players definitely do not have E1 robin. This is also a no sustain showcase

[@Wawawawawa750]

Is the new op dps trinity Fei, Aglaea, and Therta now? Poor Acheron and poor Firefly (Poor superbreak in general) Also hope she's strong enough that I can skip Tribbie (Apparently AoE Harmony) bcs Mydei Castorice Anaxa Phainon back-to-back is diabolical

[@Hyacinethea]

Shouldn't you get Tribbie for The Herta since she is a AoE Harmony Unit rather than skipping..??

[@Wawawawawa750]

@@Hyacinethea i dont want tribbie and she's the first harmony i have no interest in, and therta isnt such a fav im willing to go for supports for her. im going for mydei castorice anaxa and phainon which are all back to back

[@Phoenix-O]

It is... Until castorice comes along

[@Hyacinethea]

@@Wawawawawa750 oww, that's why. 😅

[@mikufan39-h2l]

nice to see performance against a more generic boss, trotters are kinda op though. do you think big herta suffers from acheron teambuilding problem in sustain team? no sustain her ceiling looks really high, but i wonder if her sustain team has issue fitting erudition + harmony teammates.

[@ZytenEspada]

You would probably go with one harmony (preferably all buffing) and one sustain or two harmony and no sustain. The 2 Erudition is pretty mandatory now.

[@hanyuee1160]

As of know she doesn't really have any good teammates unfortunately, on harmony character's side, she doesn't work too well with action advance because of her ult, and Robin's attack buff gets pretty diluted by Herta's own attack buff. However, we do have RMC which is very good, so I guess we'll have RMC for now. Her teammates on he erudition are even more lacking. Jade needs quick acting characters, Herta too, so they don't match well.

[@HoS_1412]

used to be really bad in v1. Now it looks much better but still some considerable gap.

[@indomie001]

I hope they'll release new Erudition unit that can be The Herta BiS teammate because I REFUSE to pull Jade for her no matter what.

[@enjumi5233]

Can’t wait for tribbie hope she is the harmony for therta teams

[@AngelOnerom]

And this is without the likely Erudition and Harmony BIS units she may receive in 3.X; honestly, no reason to pull for Aglaea unless you like her or are lacking in Lightning coverage.

[@Radiant450]

Not really, betting on the future for BiS is not really something you should do since nothing is set in stone, at best she may get 1 like acheron got JQ, but remembrance will still be THE shilled path of 3.X as well as memosprites. Current ceiling of Aglaea is higher and who knows what the future brings, not betting on anyone though.

[@FD-wl7xq]

Bold of you to assume that when sunday is already in indicator of summon meta just like ruan mei indicator of break meta

[@hamutasa3]

f this patch is freakin insane. sunday, fugue, aglaea, therta. i need all of them omg. sunday, obviously a dedicated support for the uncoming meta fugue, crazy support for my only break dps rappa aglaea, the reason why you should pull sunday therta, just an emanator itself makes her worthy pulls

[@Schiso13]

Nice, i lost my 50 50 on sunday's banner so i was just starting to look at the herta more closely, good to see that she performs well with relatively low investment

[@Aregulargameplayer]

Erudition doing more ST damage than Feixiao, we're so fucked lmao

[@Armisael4321]

Damage per screenshot doesn't matter. Check how often she does it instead (once in a blue moon). Feixiao mogs The Herta in actual damage per action value.

[@BestKazuhaFan]

@@Armisael4321lmaoo what r u on, do you not see how f2p this team is?? wait until her specific supports come out 😂😂 it’s inevitable that new dps characters are better than old ones

[@GreyAn1015]

​​​@@BestKazuhaFan idk about you but feixiao robin hm7 bronya looks f2p for me. And too early to decide who's going to be better, personally. But i do think THerta is probably better in general currently, but not by much and it is subject to change depending on the rest of the beta.

[@27Ganon]

@@GreyAn1015 yeah i don't see herta being a tier higher than feixiao, but an erudition unit being the highest tier possible currently in MoC is still nuts (Aglaea pre-nerf might've been even higher but that ship's sailed for now)

[@Damons11]

@@Armisael4321 Seele In the back 💀💀

[@k0ch1]

She's insane if the wave has 4-5 enemies, which is really common. Her "hoping for a future BiS" character will be overtuned if it fits everyone dream lol

[@aiko-channie]

Still insane even with 3-1 enemy bc of her multiplier and her enhanced skill

[@wizsword.]

all good ill just win both 50/50 for The Herta and Aglaea no way this will go wrong

[@mercibeaucoup49]

I have known pretty well about spd tuning but can you explain what is energy tuning?

[@HoS_1412]

You manipulate so that RMC's mem energy bar reaches 100% at certain time.

[@mercibeaucoup49]

@HoS_1412 that's pretty uneasy to do

[@elsienfi]

do you think the charge nerf on hmc is really huge? or is it still viable with how they move it to rmc's ult?

[@HoS_1412]

Massive nerf. Keep in mind mono ice Therta used to be a thing and E2 RMC used to work on all allies.

[@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048]

@@HoS_1412Also reduction to the True damage multiplier from 67% to 56%

[@jeffr106]

I love her but idk, ill wait for mydei in the next patch 😅 and decide later

[@qussylice]

That font in the interpretation stacks pisses me off idk why😭😭😭

[@qussylice]

Are we in a powerpoint or smth like...

[@chinhhaminh6134]

Master Spark!!!!

[@ZytenEspada]

600k on ST is much more impressive. Having that she targets Elites is a huge bonus for her as well as Erudition giving some nice bonuses to make her feel strong. At first she was kinda cope, but now she looks very strong.

[@ryuki9788]

i don't think she was cope either way considering that she could 0 cycle the new boss with only 1 limited cost.

[@Wawawawawa750]

​@@ryuki9788Tbf, that boss was majorly skewed for Therta, her performance outside that boss was very mediocre and now she's all around solid everywhere instead

[@ryuki9788]

@Wawawawawa750 that's like every single dps though. and her playground is in PF.

[@Wawawawawa750]

@@ryuki9788 every dps is skewed but therta is more skewed. Any other boss and she didn't have as impressive a performance, ppl were mostly saying cope bcs she was like not the actual meta defining dos in 3.0 over aglaea

[@BucketOfFreddies]

nice run, btw how do you get access to this ps?

[@kamiiv9864]

Great video and showcase. Do you think she’s too strong, maybe nerf worthy? Just wondering about your opinion because I still don’t really have a strong sense for how strong she is (and aglaea too in comparison)

[@kingsbishop5661]

Nope

[@HoS_1412]

She's just right.

[@27Ganon]

she's not T -1 in MoC like pre-nerf Aglaea probably was so she's fine, she doesn't outright powercreep Feixiao in MoC (that's probably being saved for 3.2 unless Aglaea's nerfs are reverted)

[@_JoeVer]

​@@HoS_1412 mhm, solid e0 with a great e1 and an incredible e2, but 0 dedicated teambuilding support currently. the opposite of algae, who scales extremely well with support teammates. this is a huge issue long-term, as her 2nd erudition restriction bricks her severely, because none of the current options synergize with her - even jade with lingsha and sunday would rather run their own team with robin. despite therta being supposedly the main dps there, she feels like the odd man out. now that stelle got nerfed and her nice synergy with therta was completely ripped out of her kit, it's as if therta doesn't have a bis team altogether, and all her teams feel like robinless feixiao. but honestly, i think stelle is still okay with her. the biggest problem holding her back imo is the lack of a true support erudition - probably will never be on acheron-jiao level of synergy,but at least something like topaz or march, with actual damage increase or lots of stacks and sp. remembrance stelle kinda fulfills this exact role already, but the issue is thay she's not erudition...

[@AnataQQ]

Nice run, but does the new quantum set not work on her anymore ? Or is Scholars set finally winning after the nerf ?

[@HoS_1412]

nope, 96 spd at the start. 95 to proc. They intentionally bricked it on Therta.

[@AnataQQ]

@@HoS_1412 Wouldn't it technically still be possible to achieve by simply not levelling her SPD traces tho ? But I guess they probably gonna brick it again on the next version....

[@43z24]

Herta LC or lingsha? (I dont care about SB team and have like 3 sustain already) Is she worth it?

[@HoS_1412]

Neither. Save for 3.1 Harmony

[@43z24]

@HoS_1412 there's rumor about new banner system that last the entire patch maybe ill wait and see thanks for in info

[@_JoeVer]

​@@43z24 therta is like firefly, e0->e1->e2->s1. you never go for s1 before e2, as there's no point in doing that.

[@shokomucho]

can u try some herta x sunday shenanigans? was wondering how much better it would be now, thanks

[@NekuroWinkel01]

How does Herta prime E1 work exactly? like, is it useful only if there are two or more enemies?

[@hadeserebus5006]

Alright, this convinced me to pull Herta (and Jade cuz I need her, not for meta, I just love her) instead of Fugue. Question, would Argenti's LC work for big Herta or what are better F2P alternatives her??

[@TheeGull0213]

I think argenti's LC is usable for the CD and the ult dmg bonus. Also, the base atk is good since herta has some self atk buffs so it would scale good with higher base atk LC.

[@fuyutsukirai]

I will mald if she gets nerfed in v4 and v5

[@du_ligal3290]

with the recent nerfs, is e1s1 ruan mei better than rmc for herta?

[@HoS_1412]

Don't think so

[@_JoeVer]

absolutely not LMAO

[@odinson4184]

Your opinion on Herta vs Aglaea? And which one is better without Robin?

[@AnimaRandom]

Hahaha.... U have Sunday? Cause...if not..well the two are fine anyways since herta and algea will benefit on RMC (but heavily on algea) Anyway, its herta. Algea may need either sunday or robin

[@odinson4184]

@@AnimaRandom I have Sunday, don't mind that Aglaea needs him since I want to put him to work anyways. I think Herta is definitely the better pull now that she got buffed.

[@bronben5479]

What would you say is her current BiS team comp? I have a Jade and Robin, hoping to put them to use on the same team, but if Serval or mini-herta is better than I’ll build them

[@hailong9428]

what if u use serval wouldnt it have been quicker

[@misanthrope16166]

no DDD either 😎

[@akmal1264]

3 cost off element with 2 free characters holy. Unlike a certain someone who keeps asking for more premium dedicated supports.

[@Wawawawawa750]

who?

[@akmal1264]

@@Wawawawawa750 the other emanator

[@НадеждаГлебова-м6х]

But when Acheron just released, she was the same. E0S0, with Pela, Gui and fire mc on trend. And she was a beast. Now she doesn't feel as good without sig and Jiaoqiu.

[@Wawawawawa750]

@@akmal1264 Acheron with current Svarog can 2 cost and a useless turbulence. This one has a very strong turbulence so I'm sure she can 3 cost too (especially since Bronya/RMC can lower her cost too by replacing robin/sunday, she would JQ and LC for 3 cost)

[@aiya2324]

​@@НадеждаГлебова-м6х well obviously with the hp inflation and also she peaked way too early because of how easy it was to reach her damage ceiling but her skill set and eidolons help with making her a valuable unit in the long run

[@minhlamat2879]

spd or atk boot for The herta?

[@AltHeath]

Is Herta better than Serval with Eagle and Passkey for battery?

[@HoS_1412]

No Robin? Yes. With Robin? Depend.

[@MRDOWNPLAYGAMINGTVYT]

should i pull for the herta???? she is so good!!!

[@MoltenCheesetart]

what moc is this? There will be svarog again?

[@Trenzox19]

next one on january

[@Trenzox19]

current has 1.6m hp, this one has 2.3m hp they going crazy

[@lenneth1188]

How much is the difference between a battery and a normal small Herta build?

[@HoS_1412]

Depend on whether you can make Therta ulti 1 more time or not

[@lenneth1188]

@@HoS_1412 idk, a 100 speed small herta build probably wouldn't work right? lul

[@KurumiNo1simp]

My goat I'm here

[@ZenFattyCat.4869]

sheesh, how does she fare against Acheron as dedicated AoE carry I wonder?

[@mongrelshadow14]

Better unless you have a high investment into Acheron and her team.

[@27Ganon]

She's better in every way in every mode, she seems to be T0 in every mode whereas Acheron is T0.5

[@ScarletHeroShorts]

@@27Ganon only based on terrible Prydwen. Acheron is still T0 everywhere. She did the TV boss with 3 cost, better than everyone else.

[@27Ganon]

@ScarletHeroShorts and Feixiao does every other boss cheaper and is still the 2nd/3rd cheapest against TV

[@ScarletHeroShorts]

@@27Ganon Acheron >>> Firefly and Firefly is T0 on Prydwen.

[@discreaminant]

Fei steals Robin Sunday or RM or RMC for the Herta? 🤔

[@HoS_1412]

RMC

[@Zerbythezerbian]

wouldnt serval be sightly better than herta?

[@Wawawawawa750]

serval passkey becoming meta in this new AS and in 3.0 was. not on my 2025 bingo card

[@davidsamudio3899]

I think Jade > Argenti > serval > = Mini Herta depending on element alightment but if both weak to ice and lightning I rather use serval

[@mongrelshadow14]

In this instance maybe not. You want the trotters to die so having your other Eru do some level of damage is probably preferred.

[@Luzac-1]

@@mongrelshadow14 little herta dealing 2-3k per FuA with her 1.6k atk and 39% crit rate, lol, why do you think Serval wouldn't have enough dmg to match that? The real reason is likely the FuAs generating more energy

[@mohammedsami3548]

Is she better than agalea overall?

[@Godofwarrrs]

Easily. Godly in pf and very solid in moc aswell, and aglaea is gonna be powercrept to hell by castorice and mydei.

[@27Ganon]

After Aglaea was nerfed by 20% and Herta was buffed yeah, Aglaea's nerf could still be reverted though so take this with a grain of salt (there's little incentive to pull Aglaea as is)

[@43z24]

Would sunday be better for her in sustain team? My robin glued with Feixiao

[@thornrosedelicate]

Yes

[@meowblaziken5634]

This sucks, this mean enemy in the future gonna have hp increase to cather newer dps :(

[@zeazz4102]

Bro upload this late

[@deltaspecies1697]

Fei or The herta ?

[@marcamielmorales9717]

Herta by 20-25%

[@27Ganon]

For MoC and AS they're both T0, Herta's better in PF. Herta's not a tier stronger than Feixiao outside of PF.

[@bewitted1169]

@@27Ganon eh kinda depends. every meta dps unit in a sustainless team comp is t0 (especially with e1 robin). Things differ when its a sustain comp (which is what prydwen uses), and thats where i think feixiao is a tier above just because her team is fully completed and is just better than other sustain comps.

[@kennethyoung7457]

Does more single target dmg than Hunt units and this is just a 3.0 dps the powercreep is insane.

[@loonymoonyy]

what Hunt? Bh can hit 1m with Fugue

[@wkdikskwlwkd]

​@@loonymoonyy 1.0 hunts lmao

[@kingsimba9513]

Cry more. I'm glad HSR devs aren't catering to the financially challenged.

[@Mapper-ov6zh]

@@kingsimba95130/10 rage bait but it’ll probably work anyway 💔

[@kingsimba9513]

@@Mapper-ov6zh It's not bait lmao. I'm genuinely happy that the HSR devs aren't going down the infantile Genshin route where you're able to complete the hardest content with the same two 4-star F2P teams until EoS.

[@isparki1]

Are ATK boots always better than SPD boots?

[@ZytenEspada]

Yes, but with Robin you don't really need a lot of atk. So you could make a case for spd boots.

[@wkdikskwlwkd]

She is really good but saying potential new best dps is crazy glaze I'm sorry

[@27Ganon]

I mean based on this she performs at Feixiao's level in MoC and obviously better in PF

[@loonymoonyy]

"Off-Element" what that supposed to mean and why should we care? Svarog has 20% ice resistance, this team has Robin e1 which are 24% increase all type resistance element All the resistance literally non existing with her e1 here, please stop baiting people

[@AngelOnerom]

So, it's a 2 cost (on-element) clear then?

[@Cciigt432]

Why are most HSR players so stupid? It's off-element because there are no ice weakness simple as that. There are no baits you are just stupid. What a meaningless comment

[@user-o5w4p7]

you are aware that if it was on element, e1 robin would increase the damage further

[@_JoeVer]

congratulations on figuring that out, that's the entire point of res pen: final damage = 1 - (res - ren pen). with 20% ice res and no res pen, final damage = 100% - (20% - 0%) = 80%, or a 0.8 final damage multiplier. with 20% ice res and 24% res pen, final damage = 100% - (20% - 24%) = 104%, or a 1.04 final damage multiplier. with no ice res and no res pen, final damage = 100% - (0% - 0%) = 100%, or a 1.0 final damage multiplier. with no ice res and 24% res pen, final damage = 100% - (0% - 24%) = 124%, or a 1.24 final damage multiplier. in other words, the damage here is only 4% higher than it would be at 2 cost on-element. so, essentially this is a pretty close estimate of her performance on-element with a 2-cost team.

[@ultrasuper6353]

​​@@_JoeVer you could just call him stupid lol

[@ktsuumisa7613]

Wouldnt serval be better than herta here?

[@HoS_1412]

Not really