Testcard D - late 60s

Testcard D and some music from BBC1 on the old 405 line network. Optical transfer from a Sony CV2000 video tape.

[@TommyWylie]

I love the way it crashes out at the end.

[@robinse28]

Hello everyone. I will be re-uploading the entire Fury tape shortly and hope youtube don't take it down again. I have ALL tapes right back to 1950s.

[@Nico93]

Hey, have you managed around in uploading the old tapes again? im sure that youtube wont take interest in such old music.

[@titmouse-distribution]

Do you have the Samoa tape?

[@C4atm]

To have a Sony CV2000 in 1965 (year it went on sale)! Its to heartbraking to think of the shows and television in general that could have been preserved. thank you for posting :)

[@redsnapper1959]

The tune titles are "Les Rues De Paris" and "Marie Helene" both by Andre Kerr and his Orchestra. They were used on BBC1 trade tests from 1965 to 1968.

[@vanfifa6098]

Can you find it

[@redsnapper1959]

@@vanfifa6098 It's there on the screen.

[@realDannyBoi111]

@@redsnapper1959 they meant the whole song i believe

[@lollygaggle]

Does anyone remember the TV trade test transmission films from about 1968-70? These featured heavily in my early memories. There was one called 'The White Horses' (I think), which was about power boats and the music for that was fantastic. It was on about 15:50 in the afternoon before 'proper' stuff was broadcast like Jackanory. Anyone else recall it/them?

[@Markgcr]

Yes I used to enjoy watching those films. Some were really good.

[@lollygaggle]

Don't recall that one - I will check it out. In hindsight, my favourite was called 'Ride The White Horses'.

[@cdgngj11]

This music makes me cry

[@jorgereodique2156]

Wow

[@kimmajkosaveukraineroadto1127]

I’ve never heard "Les Rues De Paris" and "Marie Helene" on a dance organ or a Mortier orchestrion…

[@robinse28]

Hi. Sorry I haven't uploaded the tape yet but will doing so this week. This tape contains the tune with the barking dog.

[@redsnapper1959]

You'll be able to obtain the music if you subscribe to the Test Card Circle first, details of which are on their site. Hope this helps.

[@1L6E6VHF]

PAL (Phase Alternating Line) and NTSC actually are, in the strictest sense, systems of compatible color (people in the news gathering trade applied the terms to the scanning standard associated with them). I don't think anyone tried 819-line PAL (819 SECAM, yes). 405x25 = 10125 Hz line rate (many color systems tested, none adopted). 525x29.97 = 15734 Hz line rate (-usually- used with NTSC, though PAL in Brazil - US TVs can be used in Brazil and vice versa, but no color would be seen)

[@computersolutions164]

You can build one with an SPG (Special Pulse Generator) chip or a pic chip of course

[@JohnTheRails]

Reply to dillonsbestfriend - These tracks are from the BBC1 tape "Fury".

[@giovannadimicco3822]

The real sign off tv!?

[@rambo1152]

Do you still have the CV2000? It was the first VTR I ever got to play with, I repaired it for somebody. I think I replaced the static discharge brush on the drum. Its nice to see something genuine on youtube, a lot of the testcard footage is faked and not always acknowledged as such. Your video clearly shows a 50Hz hum-bar skewing the verticals and changing the brightness. People actually watched wobbly pictures like that and thought nothing of it.

[@redsnapper1959]

In reply to bloke43 ... check out the Test Card Circle site ... if you become a member then you can acquire the tracks in question.

[@computersolutions164]

Some importedreceives have both VHF and UHF tuners and will do 405 and 625. The problem with 525 is that that it is not PAL (Phase Amplitude Line Modulation) 525 is NTSC, yank standard. It is possible to do the french 813 lines thats PAL too I think, you basically have to alter the vertical frequencies about 15.625KHz for 625 lines a bit lower for 405. I think its about 12KHz, hence the old annoying line whistle at the end of programming for the night !

[@computersolutions164]

Yes if you want to cheat. Personally I prefer the challenge.

[@computersolutions164]

it is easier than you think you can go from 405 to 625 but you do get some loss of definition. You have to persuade the vertical oscillator to get up to 15.625KHz can be done though. The frame rate stays at 50Hz. Now multiply 15625 X 50 and that will give you the number of lines

[@computersolutions164]

France had 819 SECAM at one stage I believe for a while at least

[@realDannyBoi111]

Does anyone know where I can find the full songs? I'm aware the names for them are "Les Rues de Paris" and "Marie Helene" from the tape "Fury" but I can't seem to find it when I search for it.

[@DennisOnida]

1960

[@wmbrown6]

I don't know about WWII . . . late 1950's to mid-'60's perhaps.

[@Witzlaw]

Not to take away from redsnapper1959's suggestion (because I'm thinking of doing that myself), but do a search under cwilliams1976--there seems to be quite a few test card music clips over there. --SJR

[@Nico93]

robinse28 has been removed so we cant see a complete version of this test card tape.

[@JohnTheRails]

@23565120 Try 'robinse28' and look for 'Fury Part 2'. These are the third and fourth pieces in the clip.

[@masonf2991]

why does the testcard ripple so much. i get that it's old, but i don't think the ripple should be THAT noticeable.

[@1L6E6VHF]

I see what seems to be at least two selective fades here. Was this being seen by sporadic-E skip? If so, from which transmitting station, to where? 405-line was almost exclusive to the UK and Ireland, and even the longest path within Great Britain (e.g., plymouth to the Orkneys) would be a pretty short E-skip.

[@scorpiofootiemad]

Got any more of this?

[@homer4556]

music like something out of the second world war

[@bloke33]

any idea how i could get ahold of those tunes? the two testcard sites i've come across don't seem to have it.

[@vanfifa6098]

What is the first theme shown?

[@Jamiep84]

Did the BBC continue to broadcast a unique testcard on 405 even after 1969, when all 405 programming was taken from the 625-line network via a standards convertor?

[@marioalexanderski9598]

Until 1985

[@johnr6168]

No, after 1969 the 405 transmitter outputs showed exactly the same thing as the 625 feed from the broadcasting centres. I remember seeing test card F (the colour one) in black and white on 405 line TVs right through the 1970s and earlier 1980s.

[@dillonsbestfriend]

Do we know the name of this particular tape that is playing on this video?

[@titmouse-distribution]

The name is Fury.

[@mutezone]

Where did you get this?

[@michacz9415]

srsly black and white?