✅ TESTED! Arcadyan KVD21 T-Mobile 5G Home Internet New Gateway - Compared to Nokia

[@HistoryNut-1701]

T-Mobile swapped out my trashcan for this new unit. I have to say this works much better. It is way more consistent and faster as well as receive a stronger signal from the same tower as the trashcan did.

[@G6Tsac]

I've had the Nokia gateway for about 4 mos. Was averaging about 200 down and 35 up. Haven't checked speeds in last 2 mo's and decided to check. Getting 600 down and 70 up. 28 msec ping. I'm very impressed. Thanks for your vids

[@NaterTater]

Sweet!

[@azndragon75]

you can get faster than that.

[@nathancasey7712]

@@azndragon75 how?

[@drpc98014]

Interesting, since I am seeing a true aggregation of connection speeds. Still its far from my desired speed goal. For now it's pretty stable, fail-over is a nice plus and 4k streaming and faster downloads in general prove to me that combining Tmobile hm internet with zippy was worth the added costs.

[@jameskulisek5107]

Thank you for this video! Saved me the hassle of calling customer service and pleading for a modem upgrade! I started with T-mobile home a little over a year ago with the little white cube getting an average of 25 Mbps. It took weeks and at least 8 calls to convince them to upgrade me to the trash can. Now slowly the speed has come up to an average of 260 - 300 Mbps with the network upgrades, those speeds are also thanks to you. Your videos demonstrating the antenna sensitivity of the Nokia made a huge difference, a slight turn or a 1/4" of movement can bring my speeds down almost 50 Mbps. Besides what would I do with my trash can fan if I upgrade? Thanks again!

[@NaterTater]

Glad I'm helping!

[@ReaISouI]

T-Mo is always upgrading towers and improving backhaul. Good to see things are working well for ya

[@thatsux0rz]

The best upgrade T-Mo could do at this point is give us plugs for external antennas. That way you could mount outdoors and point toward closest tower.

[@uncletom1986]

2 bad u can’t run duplicate SIM cards and have both units going off same data plan on both sides of the house

[@Casperlewis]

Also they haven't even fully implemented 5G on the 5G towers is what they told me last week. I told them its ridiculous to sell a product thats not even finished. Thats like selling a Xbox series X with just the mother board and the shell and being like here enjoy. But obviously microsoft knows better not T-mobile lol. Makes sense though because my phone is all switching to 4G LTE in so many places in my city. Then they supposedly bought out sprint which doesn't make sense when Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street Corp owns them all anyways they are literally the largest shareholder's for most companies in the world meaning they have the voting power. You can look it up yourselves everything we eat drink and consume media wise as well as our devices are owned by them. Its sad no one talks about it. They own T-mobile, Verizon At&t and they owned Sprint, they own Microsoft, Google and Apple, they own Fox and CNN as well as all local news stations. They own like all food companies. Its scary they are in control of our who lives and we work for them in many ways keeping them rich.

[@tolust]

Love when you post these videos !

[@NaterTater]

Glad you like them! More to come.

[@atmkid15]

Set up service with the can yesterday and I was surprised I was getting over 500 down and around 120 up consistently specially living in a congested city. If those speeds are constant, I couldn't recommend this enough. For $50/month, and not having to deal with a set up appointment and equipment rental fees, this has already made it a winner.

[@NaterTater]

Sweet!

[@dsantostv3711]

I got 411 download speed in Brooklyn nyc ,faster than the cable company

[@queendriver1]

Hey and yay! T-mobile convinced me to try this new Arc, it's on the way, eagerly listening. THANKS!

[@NaterTater]

Nice!

[@salromo873]

I am sticking with Nokia. It’s WiFi range 200 feet. It’s better than the router I had before. I don’t need a mesh system. It was very easy to add a fan. I biggest issue is that the service is de-prioritize and it slows down when the traffic is heavy at the tower. I go from 60 down to 5 to 10. 8 pm is the worst time for me. T-Mobil said there still working on upgrades. These are growing pains. Thanks for showing us the new trash can. Your videos have been very helpful.

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome!

[@tonycaldwell8536]

My experience is very similar to Sal's. Really great wifi range, got rid of extenders. Fan helped. Steady improvements in speeds since I signed up last Nov. Prime time traffic here in the Phoenix area cuts speed from average 150 down to about 30 or 40. Still fast enough for my use. Running around thirty 2.4 band devices (cameras, smart switches, Alexa, etc.). 2.4 is strong and rock steady. Separation of 2.4 and 5 mHz bands was essential!

[@kennopalus]

I just got the silver one last week and I've been pleased , 611 download and 42 upload !

[@NaterTater]

sweet!

[@KenKellySWFL]

I had trouble logging into the app initially, called tech support and they did a reset from their end. Everything’s working great now, 10 devices running on the network with zero lag!

[@Gintokikreuz1]

Love your videos, I hope to get T-mobile home internet one day. On a waiting list

[@vaxick]

If you're in a 5g area, they will more than likely allow you to try the service. Just call and inquire about it. The service isn't live in my families area, but they were approved by T-Mobile to subscribe to the service.

[@michaelroy2389]

Thank you! I was going to call and attempt to get the Arcadyan swap. I decided to hold off thanks to your review. Waiting to see if they do a pass through! Thanks again.

[@sweets1920]

I think your videos helped me through my VPN issues over a year ago and now you're helping me immensely with whether or not I want to try the other gateway. I'm going to buy a mesh system and pick the best trashcan location and stop worrying about it. THANK YOU SO MUCH. (PS I'm realizing I'm incredibly lucky with my *checks internet speed test* 371 download and 92 upload and 24 ping. Thanks again!

[@NaterTater]

good to hear!

[@mick.y4776]

Thanks for the long format that made me understand. Thanks for not making this a one minute glamour[background music, 1 minute bite sized clips that throws pictures at you with small captions] video. I've learned allot especially since it was explained in detail and not rushed. I would not learn much from something that looks like flickering screens, format. No dancing, lip syncing, and challenges.

[@NaterTater]

Hey look, someone likes my boring video style! 😀 Glad you found it helpful.

[@mick.y4776]

@@NaterTater You're most welcome and it's not boring. I was lied to at the store and sold an older device [Nokia]. The guy lied to my face and said I'm getting a 2.0 upgrade [Nokia]; meanwhile they sold my neighbor a truthfully newer device days earlier that I was thinking he was giving me as well. I later called T-Mobile that confirmed that the older device[he told me] is actually newer[seems the representatives I've spoken with did not know rather than lie]. I was on three way with the company. In the end I didn't really get truthful results even though she tried. I found your video and I learned in details; I can't even learn many recipes these days. Because, not "boring" or whatever that "cool" thing is expects me to view a series of quick style paced, videos. They must be a minute or so by long. Goodness, imagine Movies? Good movies? And good music? Wouldn't exist if this was the case before society became damaged.

[@jackyha9445]

Haha thanks for the wattage info, looking forward to the AT&T 5G home internet video you'll have posted in a few months

[@Keyboardletters]

What AT&T 5G home internet is this?? Before I found the T-Mobile I had the AT&T 4g home wifi gateway black box. Worked great but no unlimited data and kids blew through the 100gb of data in like a half a month!! Wish they would bring a unlimited plan around! This T mobile is still doing the trick though

[@jackyha9445]

@@Keyboardletters The AT&T 5G Home Internet that has yet to be announced, as in, it doesn't exist quite yet as of Jan 2022. But come on; you know it's coming and with it coming, Nate's gonna make a video about it. But in all seriousness, I'm joking, and using the fact that AT&T is a greedy company that wants to make money, and as the tradition of making money, they're gonna offer 5G home internet like their competitors, sadly I bet the price is gonna be similar to Verizon and tmobile, around $60 per month, with like $10 off for autopay and other freebies when it's first released and announced

[@michaelwright1602]

Thank you for doing this Nate. This new unit looks like a wait and see for future firmware upgrades...

[@NaterTater]

Indeed

[@Famas115]

I have the Nokia device here in Rittman, Ohio. I get just about 700mbps download and 40ish upload. Surprising since I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Signals are usually around -90 to 95dBm for the 5G and -98 to 105dBm on the LTE. It replaced my Spectrum internet and I have been very impressed with it's stability. I have like 17 devices connected to it and it runs fantastic. I got lucky enough to get a tower close that uses the n41 mid band 5G.

[@RejectedSpiritX]

Lucky you! I can’t wait until band N41 is at my house and ready to go. Mine is band n71. My max speed I got was 240 mbps.

[@computertecky4744]

@@RejectedSpiritX I get 15mbps

[@charlesm.9858]

Just watching this video and it’s November, glad I waited and happy I didn’t try to be the first toy get this. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!! I hope your speed got fast since your posting of this video.

[@bartyslattfast]

So I just started my trial and T-mobile sent me a Nokia. I've got it up high and have a fan getting around 240 down and 40 up. So far so good.

[@albertguasch5277]

Very good an informative video. I have had the 4GLTE gateway for close to two year and the performance has been flawless. I tried the Nokia twice about six months ago. The first one was DOA and the second one the speed was terrible (10mb or less). The 4GLTE has always been between 100-120. I have been monitoring the TMO 5G signal in my area for the past two months and they finally have it stable. I decided to try the Arcadian router. It arrived this afternoon. It came up with no problems and the performance so far has been great. I am getting 5 bars in the exact same spot where I was getting 3-4 on the 4GLTE. I hope this continues. I will continue to test for the next few days before I return the 4GLTE router.

[@NaterTater]

Good to hear. With 5 bars you should be in good shape!

[@albertguasch5277]

@@NaterTater the router is on v1.0.12, tech support said it should go to v1.0.14 in the next couple of days.

[@enumrob]

I'm so happy to have been able to finally fire Xfinity / Concast. Been streaming tv for years, had to keep xfinty internet at a cost of 149.95 per month unlimited data, 90 MB down. 5 MB up. T mobile rolled into town, 50 bucks per month, unlimited data . I average 95 MB down, 75MB UP. No issues so far. 3 tv's, 4 computers. tablets, ip phone, security cameras etc, cell phones on wifi, Never has jammed up yet. Been over 2 months. Very happy so far.

[@NaterTater]

Awesome!

[@Cyborg1170]

Thank you. It's my birthday today, and this is my present. 😁😀

[@NaterTater]

Happy birthday!

[@bradtech519]

I just signed up in OKC to try this out. They are shipping the Arcadyan KVD21 out to me. Thanks for the video. I'm really hoping it can replace my Cox Cable internet.

[@Capo711]

Thanks for the in depth review!! Ill probably get one once a firmware update drops

[@NaterTater]

I'll keep an eye on firmware updates

[@Capo711]

@@NaterTater thank you!!

[@Alexwhatisit]

Thanks for this, my Nokia failed on me and I called for a replacement. Also requested the new gateway so we’ll see if they come through with it.

[@Goonsquad2012]

I just got tmobile home internet and I gotta say it works great in my room I only run my ps4 pro on it and my fold 3 the speed test is crazy

[@Alans63]

Thanks so much for this video. BTW, you look like & sound like the actor Gary Sinise.

[@queendriver1]

the speeds you are getting I would be happy with right now, I did learn my tower is 10 miles away and currently being updated to the 5g and should be done soon. However, I can only get a signal being connected to an external, so waiting patiently for your video on that for I certainly don't want to tackle that without watching. Thanx Nat!

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome !

[@Casperlewis]

Also i hope your channel pops off bro good luck love the content.

[@NaterTater]

Thanks!

[@HistoryNut-1701]

Whatever changes T-Mobile made overnight jumped my download speed on the Nokia from and average of 250 down to 10 up, to 350 down 20 up, with still only 2 bars of signal strength.

[@NaterTater]

If you're on the same bands it might have been tower backhaul updates. Nice either way!

[@HistoryNut-1701]

@@NaterTater It’s on the N41 Band for the 5G. I can only pick that up by placing the unit in the southwest facing dining room window and orient the unit so it faces northeast.

[@michaelgangwer7322]

Did T-Mobile rollout network changes last night? I was experiencing an outage about 9 or 10 pm last night…

[@HistoryNut-1701]

@@michaelgangwer7322 Apparently the C-Band was activated nationwide for all carriers starting Thursday morning, and it’s supposed to greatly improve the N41 band from T-Mobile. I am experiencing stronger faster service in many spots in my area when on Wed. I didn’t…

[@supernice_auto]

where are you located? you're lucky you have access to n41 already- many places don't

[@MurderSTi]

My trashcan decided to quit working after 1 year of working awesome. Tech support is shipping my new unit they said would be the new blackbox unit. I never had any issues with the trashcan until now when it just died.

[@clay3129]

New of this device and tmobile. Started out with blazing speeds for the first week….50-150mbs down & 7-30 up.. now im ranging 0.2-50mbs down & 0.2 to 4 up…. This amazes me not sure how such a drastic change could take place

[@Classy_Car]

My nokia router was sitting in the window seal today and it was 100 degrees F (said it felt like 115) and the fan turned off for 30 minutes and the poor little nokia router DIED. I called T-Mobile and after 2 “experts” we got to one that is actually pretty nice. He said that it was broken and he is shipping us a new arcanyan. I hope it will be better lol

[@winalways3598]

When I thought they couldn't get any worse 😜 the cylinder Nokia been working great for me

[@juice1893]

Thanks, great comparison video! Looking forward to the video on the external antenna installation.

[@NaterTater]

you're welcome!

[@crazyhass84]

agreed. Just got mine installed. Black cube isn't any better so far. Need to connect it to my external antenna!!!

[@NaterTater]

@@crazyhass84 here's the external antenna install video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nV7SfKWblLeGj8k and the results: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqLceIujaN50icU

[@bjsc1100]

thanks nate for being the early adopter for us. i'll be waiting for the arcadyan firmware to mature a bit before trading in the nokia.

[@NaterTater]

you're welcome!

[@AAtta-3286]

Thanks for going the extra mile to be one of the first to give us a heads up on that new gateway! Been waiting for some type of comparison and ya came through as usual. Looks like for now I'll keep the trashcan. After you videos on adding my own router, which I did, the Nokia has been more stable. Still a lot of fluctuation on speeds but hasn't dropped Wi-Fi anymore. Looks like no way to shut Wi-Fi off of new gateway either. As for issues with new gateway, I just have one question - what ever happened to quality assurance testing? T Mobile is back to it customers all being Beta testers!!! Great video! Many thanks!!

[@NaterTater]

Yeah it seems technology is more of the "ship now, update later" mindset. I think covid issues are making that worse (delaying, pressure to release).

[@irvindeleon7215]

Thank you so much! your reviews have always been great at answering my questions!

[@NaterTater]

Glad you like them!

[@druliefw]

I just joined T-mobile 5G and they just sent me the Arcadyan. Overall I am happy with it. On a nice day I get 5 bars on n41 and get 17ping 400+ down and 100+ upload speeds. We are in a snow storm right now and it switched to n71 (after restarting the device) and get a ping of 39 but speed still 300+ and up at 89mbps. I feel it should re-home on the tower automatically but it doesn't. I have lost the signal several times in the past week. That is something I really hope they fix. I'm lucky, I'm only 1/4 mile from the tower. Thanks for your info, it has been really helpful for me to understand what is happening.

[@NaterTater]

you're welcome! sounds like good speed on either band

[@supernice_auto]

those are great numbers especially the latency- what state are you in if you don't mind me asking?

[@druliefw]

@@supernice_auto Southern NJ, near Burlington. About 2 miles north of the Burlington Stores distribution center.

[@lattermanstudio]

This new device has lots of potential WHEN they get the software up and running...... If I was not ever uploading big files anywhere I would NEVER need and outdoor antenna.... my speeds at night go over 260mbps ..... its impressive.... I will however be connecting to my waveform flat panel pretty soon here....using the flat panel with the Nokia the uploads where from 20 to 35 ..... right now they are 1.2 to 5 without an outdoor antenna.

[@nathancasey7712]

Which antenna do you have?

[@Foothillpump]

On first setup, you should just be able to change the default passwords. I never typed in those long passwords on mine. I also experienced dropped signals, I think it did it at least twice when setting it up. Since then it has been rock solid.

[@dsantostv3711]

How did you change the default password? I could not do that

[@johnrussell5108]

We signed up with T-Mobile have the black box modem. Works great with one big exception. The employers vpn doesn’t seem to be compatible. The vpn drops out constantly as in 6-7 times an hour. Sure would like some advice on a work around. Other than that it’s been good for streaming

[@NaterTater]

that might be a packet fragmentation issue. See if you can change the MTU size on your computer/VPN settings. Default is 1500 and that works well for me but VPN has more overhead in the data packets so I use 1320 for my work VPN.

[@MonsoonGeek]

I just swapped to this today from the silver one. It’s been up and running for 10 mins and it’s already way better connection and speeds.

[@NaterTater]

Great to hear! Do you know what bands you are on? Same as before?

[@4funrc11]

A-hahaha! 😆 I received an email *Activation Notice* and my *Arcadyan 5G Gateway KVD21* is still in transit... Four (4) days to expected delivery. 😗

[@MartellThaCool]

Appreciate this. I had the device before last month and so. With the T-Mobile internet speeds was rough around 60 to somehow crazy speeds with 200+ mbs. Unfortunately, I'm an loyal member with AT&T. If I was rich/sponsored, I'll keep both at&t & T-Mobile internet. Most definitely recommended the T-Mobile internet speeds and great for cloud gaming

[@GregRuffino]

Thank you Good Sir.

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome!

[@NorthernWheelies]

Thanks Nater Tater!

[@NaterTater]

You're welcome!

[@Genie86333]

Supposed to be getting this modem on Monday (at least I hope it was this modem...I referrred to it several times by model number (I work for a company that sells T-mobile and other Internet services & my boss had to get this modem to get our company's VOIP to work...they were hoping the default (nokia) modem would work for me, but it doesn't, so my boss told me to have them send me this modem, but the cx svc rep didn't seem to know at first what I was talking about at first so I'm not holding my breath..) This video is very helpful because now I know what to expect.

[@NaterTater]

Your order confirmation email will refer to it as a gateway/NOK or ARC.

[@Genie86333]

@@NaterTater thank you. Yes I got an email which did include the model number and it is the right one, so hopefully tomorrow I'll need up and running!

[@ericspowers]

It's way better than the Nokia Gateway it is so hot in Florida it was a better idea to get to Arcadian here in Florida! The Arcadyan did not hardly shut down at all! Also I got five bars at this location. It had to take three Nokia devices with limited connectivity 2 devices and five calls to T-Mobile to get the Arcadian Gateway! Love it ever since!

[@davinsneed4660]

If it's not possible to turn off the wifi it's a hard pass for me. Got to be able to run a wifi router with open firmware for better security control (segregation for internet of things) and special features (VLAN, port switching, bridging, and logging). Sticking with the Nokia.

[@NaterTater]

they likely will add that but you can still run your own setup if the gateway wifi is on. but right now you're better off with the Nokia anyway.

[@iOwnMyNameTY]

One reason I use actual routers on it -- I have the R7000 Nighthawk, and a few others with custom firmware that I put on them to ease the headaches these gateways provide. T-Mobile was actually surprised I was able to get away with all I do over here with my two gateways into the R7000 (again, custom firmware). Thanks for the video!

[@OriginalSirSpeaksAlot]

Can you explain like I'm 5 about what you can do with your own router? I thought tmobile would be against it

[@JLH0714]

@@OriginalSirSpeaksAlot Yeah I have a nighthawk router and my speeds dropped to nothing when I connected the gateway to it. What am I doing wrong?

[@JLH0714]

Yeah I have a nighthawk router and my speeds dropped to nothing when I connected the gateway to it. What am I doing wrong?

[@iOwnMyNameTY]

@@OriginalSirSpeaksAlot You can override much of what the gateway does not allow, etc. DNS servers for an example, MTU is another, quite a bit that's not available with the gateway.

[@iOwnMyNameTY]

@@JLH0714 Your speeds shouldn't drop at all. I am on a custom firmware, and even with stock, it didn't drop.

[@handicamper101]

Great info. Did You try Running The Arcadyan by itself without the other one on? Curious if you would get different results. 👍👍

[@NaterTater]

Same results

[@DjSegwon]

Dope Channel 🙏🏾

[@ifiwooddesigns]

Just got mine last week (3 days after release). Tech support was no help as they kept going through set-up process. Finally hooked up to tower and T-Mobile can see my home network, but none of my devices can connect to gateway. Only 5 of my 48 devices see it and after many hours of tech support at all levels, they are sending me a ‘tested’ version. I’ve complained about it maybe only needing a firmware update, so glad to hear YOU mention it’s coming soon. I am within 4 towers (2 being less than a mile from me), so I should have amazing speeds if only my devices can connect to it. For now, only getting 70-90 download and 13-15 uploads. Ugh!!!

[@JohnWadeLongJr]

If you have 2.5mbps devices, you need to separate your 5G and 2.4 - then log in on the 2.4 and connect your devices - on laptop - or same holds true for you cell phone. Got my 2 Wyze v.2 cams, Philps Hue and Simplisafe cam all set up on 2.4. Then you can log in again on 5G and all the devices still work. MY ONLY HANGUP NOW is my Roku - TV ethernet plugged into a splitter box connected to the T-Mob router as is the Hue, but NO CIGAR! Took me 3 days to get THIS FAR, so will keep on truckin' & tryin'. LongJnSilver, Western NC

[@admistyt]

I just got the newer arc one and today was my first use with T-Mobile internet and I’m getting peak speeds of 370 down and 45 up. I figured out that I actually need to face the block in different positions to get the best signal and best speed. When I faced it to one side of the house there was no speed and it shut down. When I faced it to another side I got 60 down, and then I tried another and got 30 down. I faced it to the final side and ended up with 370 so I’m assuming it is sensitive to where the tower is.

[@elegant_edits]

Thanks for the video! I tried calling them, to see if they had a port forwarding feature within the app. They told me that the feature is not available, but more shockingly; that they couldn't do it on their end, either. I'm getting packet loss, with my xbox and I have to wait until their engineers add this feature. But, in watching your video, it seems as though I will always have 47ms ping, while I'm gaming, if we're waiting on them to add this feature lol

[@NaterTater]

The only way to do port forwarding with t-mobile is thru a VPN. Thats not going to help your ping. Not the best ISP for gaming.

[@MrAlexanderTheG8]

I've been testing mine for a few months now, and I've noticed the speeds (Nokia Router) have slightly improved with firmware updates. I have also segmented out the 2.4 and 5 GHZ bands so that each has its own unique SSID because with the default unified setup, I was getting worse throughput and worse speeds. I consistently getting about 130 solid on the download and 20 on the upload. I will also state that when conducting speed tests, there are so many variations, for example, distance from the router, whether or not you're using ethernet, or the modem in the device in which you are conducting the test. I have tested with my iPhone and my Note 10+ and gotten differing speeds, both above 130 on the download, but the iPhone 13 is pulling faster speeds, even though the Note 10 is showing Wi-Fi (6) on the icon. So, there are so many factors involved. Alos when doing a speed test, I do it in the worst room because usually that is where the complaints will arise LOL! Either way, for 50 bucks it's worth it! I'm hoping there is some kind of mesh system coming for this router in the future, because that would enhance the experience tenfold!

[@creed5248]

Where did you get the firmware updates ?

[@nathancasey7712]

The new one supports mesh right?

[@MrAlexanderTheG8]

@@nathancasey7712 they both support mesh network, however T-Mobile hasn't specified which third party mesh systems will work!

[@SteveBlanchard]

@@MrAlexanderTheG8 I can't figure out how to segment out the 2.4 and 5ghz. can you tell me how to do this as i have looked through the app and on the website and i still can't figure out how to configure it.

[@NaterTater]

You can use the web interface, login and then there should be a new wifi settings tab on the left. If not use the backdoor: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZnUf2qGgresm9U

[@playstereo]

Thank you for showing .. so in your opinion at this time is better to stick with the Nokia instead of the new gateway ? How did you get them to send you the new one ?

[@NaterTater]

yes, Nokia for now. I ordered new service.

[@toddgrudzinsky4475]

My new router from T-Mobile the usb c port melted due to over heating issues 1 week ago MAKE SURE EVERYONE KEEPS AN EYE OUT FOR THAT

[@AAtta-3286]

Is that the trashcan or the newest router just out that you had the USB C port issue? Thanks for the warning!

[@NaterTater]

the power port or the one above it for data?

[@earlt911]

I'm in Northern Macomb Co and I just ordered service today and T-Mobile told me they stopped shipping the new modem due to customer complaints and that I would get the Nokia model.

[@feiwong70]

Thanks for the detailed comparison and tesing. This is super helpful. I’m considering switching from Xfinity to T-Mobile Home Internet. My T-Mobile phone plan 5Guc speed average is crazy fast at 450Mbps (a lot faster than Xfinity wifi) so I hope its home internet signal would be fast as well. I only need Download up to 50Mbps on average for my daily work and entertainment.

[@DreamerBoy-xc9ew]

I don't care how fast it is but man the whole Upnp missing from the gateway making gaming impossible. Your Nat = Strict and T-Mobile said their is zero workarounds and a update is coming out but the didn't say when..

[@MorbidGod391]

Officially trying this out again - but thus time with ARC!

[@NaterTater]

🤞

[@wetout]

Can you talk about the technical details like modem models between the two.

[@salalbanese5537]

I just installed a KDV21 and it worked great for 2 days about 400 down and 12 up, then I got 3 down and near 0 up. I called them about 5 times before the sent me a replacement. I installed that one same thing, when it worked it was great, not consistent. I had to return it to T-Mobile, I hope they fix the issue I had.

[@VideoProcConverter]

Perfect!

[@minigpracing3068]

Bridge mode is kind of important, and turning off Wi-Fi the same. I hope I get the older modem in my delivery tomorrow.

[@foxmcfluff8982]

I must have missed a vid somewhere...what is the little "lid" on the trash can nokia back there? *edit* just heard you say it was a fan. cool idea tho!

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

hi! yes, he does a video comparison between 3 different fans. I'm sorry that he didn't respond to your question. that's weak. from some other videos, it seems that having a fan greatly improved download speed. one guy just pointed a little fan from the dollar store at his and it made a big improvement. these tests/comments are all based on the silver trash can version.

[@DavidLari]

Guess I will keep the Nokia trashcan for now. I have some fans on it, and put it on an automatic timer that reboots it every morning and it's working a little better than it used to.

[@MorbidGod391]

Did you ever hear anything about the Nokia mesh? Is TMo going to be releasing that?

[@dougbelkofer8829]

Hey Nate - great video, thanks for taking the time and effort to do it. I can't help but ask though, what if you used two 4x4 antennas? I know nothing about the costs of these antennas, so I don't know how prohibitive it might be to get two 4x4's, but I can't help but wonder about it. I'm pretty sure I have a tower less than a 1/4 mile from me (need to confirm that), and I really think that having outside antennas could make a big difference. Using just my iPhone 13, with a 5GUW connection, I've seen close to gigabit speeds in some locations. I have to wonder if I could get above the 250-ish megabit speeds I'm currently seeing with no external antennas.

[@leemeadows5624]

Hi Nate. I've been a T-Mobile Home Internet Subscriber for a year now. It's been really great and far more dependable than my old Xfinity connection. Yes it may drop signal at times, but a quick reboot has never failed me. I recently put mine on a fan and smart plug that reboots it every night at 3 AM while we are all sleeping. I haven't experienced a drop since I started the nightly reboots. I also just scored a new Arcadyan KVD21 for the home. I can't wait to hook it up. My question for you is now that you have been able to kick the tires on both models, which has the greater/more stable Upload Speeds? I also am benefiting from the recent tower Upgrades. My Downloads have increased from 150 MBPS to 250 to 400 MBPS. I clocked the Nokia at 572 Down early in the morning the other day. My problem however is my Upload Speeds. They are only 14 MBPS to 25 MBPS. It's strange because my cellphone easily gets 30 to 40 MBPS Up. My work office is also the farthest from my Gateway. I don't get a ton of issues, but my video on conferences works much better in the AM than late PM. I'm sure most of that is related to afternoon traffic of people hitting the towers in my area. So I'm hoping to pick up greater Upload speeds, and wonder if you have experienced any improvements in that regard. I know I threw a lot at you, but I would love your feedback on any of what I have shared.

[@NaterTater]

Hey Lee, I assume you are on n41 for secondary signal. The downside to n41 is it uses TDD which segments the signal in time chunks for download and upload and they obviously favor download over upload. This means its hard to get really fast upload. That said 15mbps is plenty for video conferencing, I'd bet its either the multi user QoS (bandwidth "sharing") support or the ping/latency that is causing your issues. Are you connecting directly to the gateway? Try an external router if so. Both gateways have similar upload.

[@leemeadows5624]

@@NaterTater Thanks Mater. I've been thinking about running a hard cable from my Gateway to my work office. There's definitely a lot of sharing of the upload going on. My wife works from the home also and the kids are often at home with virtual school due to COVID. I was using a Deco P9 with backhaul, but for some reason it kicked the can on me as soon as the new speeds came in. I had them running in router mode so I could take advantage of additional features like device being able to prioritize devices. I think that goes away when I put them in AP Mode. I'll have to do some testing. I may see if the home still functions well with the gateway in my office upstairs. That would be great, and allow me to easily connect to it for work. Thanks for the input.

[@trucklov3r]

what’s the thing you’ve got on top of your other one?

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

So did you ever figure out how to do NAS on that Back USB port, or that's not possible?

[@NaterTater]

not possible

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

@@NaterTater thank you for your quick answer... well that sucks..

[@andre26261095]

The Nokia Gateway works way better than the Arcadyan in my area I was constantly experiencing major issues with Arcadyan and wasn't experiencing half the issues when I had the Nokia so basically T-Mobile is sending me the Nokia again and I'm sending the Arcadyan back. Thing about it is they were claiming that the Arcadyan was faster than the Nokia that's not true because when I had the nokia the speed test was higher than the Arcadyan. With the Arcadyan I experience a lot of buffering and blurry Imaging on my TV do to poor connectivity that the Arcadyan puts out and a lot of signal loss with the Nokia I didn't experience blurry Imaging at all only buffering every once in awhile but it wasn't constantly like with the Arcadyan

[@rbbartho1]

T-Mobile TEK said that you are unable to turn off the WIFI portion of the gateway. This interferes signals with 3rd party WIFI mesh routers.

[@NaterTater]

That may be the official answer but there is a way... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIWsanSFlr6YmsU

[@Zeyek1]

oh shit you got it man

[@DwadeIsHere2010]

I got the Nokia just recently the standard Original LTE modem appears to be the option still. 😕 But I see the heat it puts off does lagg the internet speed. I wish I had external antennas. I live in a rural area 6 miles but kinda down hill and surrounded by trees so it signal is 2 bars. It works but not what it could be.

[@mhfnet]

Thanks NT, looks like this thing is still in beta form. I'll wait for a couple months to see if they fix the issues before I consider giving up my Nokia gateway with external router that's working great for me.

[@NaterTater]

100% agree

[@ChrisW1962]

It took me over a week just to get signed up, never chat always Call, giving my SS and license # to some bonehead oversea's was scary too

[@tonycaldwell8536]

I refused to give them SS and license # and eventually prevailed back in last Nov.

[@darryllindsey6669]

Thanks for all the information could you share the speed test app that you used in your video that one of your viewers suggested again thanks for your help

[@NaterTater]

analiti but i also like wifiman

[@darryllindsey6669]

Thanks again

[@David-bq2qh]

Thanks for the review of the new gateway. Do you have the name of that first speed test app that another viewer recommended I'd like to give it a try here and see what my pings both on my upload and download.

[@NaterTater]

analiti

[@a_voice_in_the_wilderness]

So how exactly are people expected to get one of these? what EXACTLY is the process?

[@NaterTater]

call tmobile or go to a store. But you only get what they have in stock/available.

[@rld413]

Thanks for the video, my son just recently changed to T-Mobile for his phone, came to my rural house where internet is very slow, his phone is pulling 25-30 down on 5G vs Verizon which only pulled at 1-2 on a good day. He recently got T-Mobile home brought it over and it will only pull 1-2. Why does the 5G phone pull decent speeds but we couldn’t get anything out of the T-Mobile home? Any thoughts you have would be great!

[@jamesdesmond1301]

Be sure that you have taken a paper clip and inserted it into the "reset" hole in the back and reset your device. I've had the Nokia 5G for about 5 months and a recent power surge from a thunderstorm messed it up (reduced internet speed from about 40/4 to 5/.12). Three different T-Mobile techs failed to urge me to try that, and I just happened to spot that reset hole on my own and then went for it. It worked! But not before they sent me the Arcadyan on 5/25/22; now I have to decide whether to swap (even if that goes smooth, I'll have to redo all of my Alexa pods and smart plugs to talk to the new device).

[@snoopyblu1206]

I have the new box and I must say it's everything he's saying and then some I have to say it's actually better than Comcast and way cheaper

[@PigsTravels]

I use the app call 5g speed test

[@alantague2966]

Nate - thanks for the video! Please provide the names of the apps you used for speed tests and graphing the Wi-Fi signal. Also any apps to help analyze the cell tower and signals. Thanks!

[@NaterTater]

I used speedtest.net app, analiti app and fast.com. you can also use the cell mapper app to tell you which tower your phone is connected to.

[@lattermanstudio]

Just the the Arcadyan..... It's Feb 22 now (had it a few days) ... firmware is STILL the same you are reporting here in this video.... BUT my UI version is v 1.7 (so that part is a bit newer)

[@jasondevault5066]

Greatest switch ever for me. Goodbye buckeye broadband!

[@swiss6253]

Still doesn't have external antennas? Why don't they understand? Also I keep seeing people saying that you can't use the sim outside of their hardware, and some people saying you can. Really getting sick of how much uncertainty comes with this stuff. Pretty sure I just got bamboozled by at&t/cricket, we'll see in a couple days.

[@robvazquez1424]

Ever think about getting the Orbi 5G modem/router for a test ? And It already has the ability to add antenna's..

[@NaterTater]

I have thought about it, they are pricey though!

[@KaiZhu0327]

Great video, Nate. I just switch to Tmobile Internet, have the Arcadyan KVD 21. Just about a week now, but it constantly pops up massage: low temp alert. The operated low temp is 32f, I guess my room temp is above 70f. Any suggestions? Thanks pal.

[@CrownedSerpentMedia]

The new one has given me a lot of problems. I'm hoping an external wifi 6 will help

[@ToniaMaitland]

I upgraded to the new one and it sucked so bad that I only had internet for 10 minutes and it would lose service. Resetting all day was a pain. Changed back to Nokia and no problems.

[@Toom316]

Question for you, when you moved the KVD21 up next to you, your mic picked up a lot of static. Did you notice that also? I wander if that interference is coming from the KVD21...

[@NaterTater]

What timestamp?

[@Toom316]

@@NaterTater around 1300 when you picked it up to show off thr touch screen. Noticed as it was close there was some static being picked up but when you moved it away there wasn't any. Just wandering if you noticed that any other time, static when you moved your mic by it. Might be some odd interference coming off it maybe. Even around 1345 its when you hold it up say you may here a little noise.

[@toddlaroche5831]

I just got the new gateway. Gateway is clear of any other devices/wiring, at a window that faces the cell tower directly that the signal is coming from. I get a 4-bar signal and good RSRP and SINR readings consistently and yet the Speedtest shows drop offs to zero Mbps for long periods of time. What gives? I’m assuming it’s a TMobile network problem…

[@lovewithoutborder6051]

Try to put it on top of kitchen cabinets

[@brucebradley5877]

The big question can you assess the router to open ports and port forward

[@NaterTater]

no port forwarding on tmobile's network unless you do VPN

[@starmc26]

@@NaterTater does it have a good 2.4 ghz band for smart home iot devices?

[@NaterTater]

@@starmc26 yes

[@JohnWadeLongJr]

@@starmc26 YES! If you have 2.5mbps devices, you need to separate your 5G and 2.4 - then log in on the 2.4 and connect your devices - on laptop - or same holds true for you cell phone. Got my 2 Wyze v.2 cams, Philps Hue and Simplisafe cam all set up on 2.4. Then you can log in again on 5G and all the devices still work. MY ONLY HANGUP NOW is my Roku - TV ethernet plugged into a splitter box connected to the T-Mob router as is the Hue, but NO CIGAR! Took me 3 days to get THIS FAR, so will keep on truckin' & tryin'. LongJnSilver, Western NC\

[@jsr-uz3oj]

I started out with the 4G square white modem, getting 50 to 80 MBS finally got the silver 5G and went up to 186 MBS to 330 MBS average around 250MBS very pleased with it, I will warn you their customer service is based out of the Philippines and not the best but better than AT&T but now with the 5G love it works great sometimes as with all routers you have to reset them I can do it with the app 50.00 month and no modem rental fees and no data limits I stream all my TV I have this since it since 11/20 if it's not in your area most likely due to they don't have the new 5G modems in stock and no contracts.

[@vietdragon5610]

do it faster then cable internet?? it used simcard if it work good no 1 going hook up the cable to stream on twitch tv anymore

[@dig1035]

How many watts draw active? When unplugged overnight does it forget settings (WiFi password)? Thumbs up and subscribed!

[@NaterTater]

~8.5watts. does not forget