With a 50 year background as a software and systems engineer, I fully appreciate your thorough and logical approach to doing a "how to" video amd a product review. All I can say is "More, more, more .."
@VictorTorres-cv2tt5 жыл бұрын
Aye, Gavin, it seems like any other powder dispenser. A for accuracy. B for looks. I'm not too keen on emptying the powder from the bottom!
@nilescoyote48295 жыл бұрын
Gavin, now load 100 cartridges without recalibrating and check the weight on your FX to see how much this RCBS drifts over a load session.
@GunWodan5 жыл бұрын
Niles Coyote indeed, would have loved to see a charge check with the fx-120
@bryanmarks40705 жыл бұрын
I have the chargemaster light. I have to re zero every 8-10 charges because it drifts. I’ve tried everything. It sits on a grounded pad to stop static from building up. I learned my lesson I loaded 100 rounds for my 6.5 creed. I was using it in auto mode. When I was done I realized that the scale drifted 0.6 grains. I was kind pissed off. It would of been bad if I was loading on the upper end of max. So now I use it in manual so I can check that the scale is at zero before I hit GO.
@wingding0284 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmarks4070 i know how you feel i use mine in auto i go .2 below what i want then put it on the manual scales to check and trickle in what i need
@someguy27414 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmarks4070 I had an issue with my lyman manual scale. Turns out the power supply (rated a 6.5v when the batteries on 4.5v) was flaky. I switch the plug for a USB power supply. Rock solid. For a test I tried a bench power supply and it was far too noisy. The scale was drifting without a load and didnt stop.
@freeandcriticalthinker44313 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmarks4070 yea .6 grains off sucks man, but .6 grains ain’t gonna blow your rifle. Most rifles can handle at minim , 50 percent of what we usually see as max loads and pressures.
@Naso03 Жыл бұрын
The accuracy of that RCBS unit is impressive. I’ve seen other videos comparing this machine and it looks really good.
@GunWodan5 жыл бұрын
I‘ve measured the throws I am getting from my Chargemaster lite (rated 0.1gn accuracy) on my FX-300i and - depending on the powder - the charges are in a range of 0.15 - 0.20gn so it seems their rating is more like a +/- While that‘s certainly enough for decent precision, I can throw more consistent charges with my Redding BR-30. Would love to see some charges of this dispenser measured on a precision scale to get an impression of the real consistency.
@hankbrinlee46775 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to give it a huge "no-go" based on that price point...
@MarkBrown51505 жыл бұрын
I agree Hank
@danphelps3684 жыл бұрын
Why get into handloading if youre afraid of spending money? Be alot cheaper to just buy factory ammo
@hankbrinlee46774 жыл бұрын
@@danphelps368 Because I can do the exact same thing at a much lower price. A good manual powder measure and scales will get you results that are just as good, just an investment in time and I do enjoy my time reloading.
@koolaidman0074 жыл бұрын
@@danphelps368 Because this is ludicrously over priced for what it is. Any of Redding's competition powder measures will do the same job for 200 bucks.
@831sabino4 жыл бұрын
Dan Phelps you are totally wrong my friend when you say buying factory ammo is cheaper. Example = black hills 62gr TSX Barnes runs about $1.50 per round. I can make that same round for .80 cents. Not just because you like driving fast you have to buy a McLaren. Just saying!!
@davemod78732 ай бұрын
I just got one delivered and loaded my first 20 rounds with it. I'm a distance shooter and I look for accuracy and repeatability in every step of reloading. I was super impressed with this device. In match mode at the slowest speed it accurately dropped powder in less than a minute and all were within .01 grains as confirmed on my FX. So all I can say is, does anyone want to buy an FX? :) I'll make you a deal. Now, this thing is not for everyone based on the price, but I can't argue about the accuracy/price point, there just isn't any comparison.
@Factory4004 жыл бұрын
As a mixed discipline engineer and product designer.....I believe the dispenser and the scale should be separate devices. The scale/balance can be treated carefully and the dispenser can be flipped and shaken without worry.
@tonybrannen17402 күн бұрын
I agree! Shaking the unit shakes the load cell 😢
@wadelandeche86325 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the comparisons of the charge weights across both scales as a verification...Looking like a great dispensing scale setup from RCBS!
@mohammedcohen Жыл бұрын
...my absolute gold standard for the past 50 years has been the RCBS branded Ohaus micrometer adjustable scale I got in the RCBS 'Ammo Crafter Kit' I bought through the Illesheim Rod & Gun Club in Germany in 1973...
@miguelitomigra5435 жыл бұрын
Gonna stick with my Chargemaster Lite. Love it. Great dispenser for the price!
@R1j0hn2 жыл бұрын
@ 4:20 ----> the windscreen is important, but most people don't realize CELLPHONES being close (
@wldott5 жыл бұрын
All that plastic just intensifies static just like the previous models, and a strain gauge scale still blows my mind at that price range. They better get off there high horse and lower that price to $400 if they plan to sell them to anyone that isn't brain dead.
@dwightlooi4 жыл бұрын
Somebody needs to make a an electronic powder dispenser which dispenses INTO A CARTRIDGE CASE instead of a pan. Instead of a pan, there is a shell holder. You insert the case, press START, the scale zeroes to the case weight and drops powder into the case directly with the aid of a funnel that catches the powder from the dispensing tubes.
@1spitkitty3 жыл бұрын
That will be a hassle. Now you will have to make sure every case weighs the same and then you will have to group your cases in different weights. Then ever group will have to start with a Tare before proceeding.
@dwightlooi3 жыл бұрын
@@1spitkitty I think you are confusing calibration and zeroing. We are not using the cartridge case as the calibration weight just like we are not using the powder pan as the calibration weight. --- Without changing the calibration, when you insert the cartridge case and press the button, the scale zeroes to the weight of the case irrespective of what it may be. It then measures the change in weight as the powder drops. If you input 44.2 grains the measure drops when the case becomes 44.2 +- 0.05 gr heavier than it was when you pressed START. -- The point is that there is no need to take a pan with powder and pour the powder into the case. The measure drops powder directly into the case. No spills, no chance for idiot double charging, perfect for the precision reloader.
@1spitkitty3 жыл бұрын
@@dwightlooi Ah' so this unit will zero itself before every charge? Ok. That makes everything different. So it will Tare automatically before it it charges.
@erich91115 жыл бұрын
They should have a self-calibrate mode where it learns the behavior of your particular powder on a few test throws. With this hardware I'm sure they could squeeze a little more out of the cycle times, but few users will understand the settings well enough to tune it to that level.
@David120055 жыл бұрын
Good review. I will stick with my AutoTricker. I had an older RCBS scale fail out of warranty. No more RCBS electronics for me. Their dies are good.
@lovetoflylovetofly38435 жыл бұрын
Emptying that thing sucks! I have a hard time shaking my precision scales!
@mdbarthel19695 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if the scale portion detached for the powder changes.
@jadoncampbell27403 жыл бұрын
Try using canned air
@bobbertee59455 жыл бұрын
Yeah that price is gonna have to be halved for me to justify..... that's crazy
@shagmesilly784 жыл бұрын
Utterly crazy. $900 bucks. Way to price yourself out of the market!!!
@jadoncampbell27403 жыл бұрын
Double the speed of the charge master and More accuracy dubble the price
@kjmdrumz33 жыл бұрын
@@jadoncampbell2740 Same price as the more accurate FX-120i and Auto Thrower/Auto Trickler 3.0
@JohnDoe-hu9ve4 жыл бұрын
Gavin, been impatiently waiting for your promised follow up on this. Thanks for this vid - great as always. The powder drain process seems really clunky and prone for extreme frustration. I'm also a little concerned about exactly how sensitive/accurate the scale truly is if you are talking, waving your hands and bumping your bench (which I know is solid....but) all above an uncovered weight pan. My precision scale wouldn't tolerate than and I wonder how a scale that claims the level of precision this one claims can maintain in that environment? If the final work product does, in fact, work something similar to your video then this will save a lot of time vs. rough weighing on a Chargemaster and verifying/final weighing on a pharm scale.
@kentrumm13855 жыл бұрын
I noticed that both scales were not level when you did the weight comparison. That alone makes a huge difference in how accurate the scale is going to be.
@roylandgrave94955 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a side by side comparison with the Frankford Arsenal Intellidropper?
@xenonram5 жыл бұрын
Considering it's 4x the cost of the Intellidropper, I'd say the Intellidropper is a much better value.
@michaeldankert7924 жыл бұрын
@@xenonram The Intellidropper is junk! I bought it based in part on Gavin's recommendation. That thing will drift +.10 gr continuously, about every 8-10 seconds. I recorded a video of it and sent it to the mfg when i was trying to get it to work. First I was told to adjust a screw on the bottom. Then, it was sent back for a new one from the mfg. It was just as bad. Finally after several more back and forth emails, the mfg told me in so many words "too bad, all scales drift" and they stopped responding to me.
@randyemerson84074 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldankert792, there's a review that puts the Chargemaster Lite against the Frankford, and the RCBS wins it in terms of accuracy and consistency.
@freeandcriticalthinker44313 жыл бұрын
My comparison is RCBS wins. My BRAND new Intelludropper wouldn’t do anything, brand new out of the box. 200 paper weight, plus specs per specs says intellidropper is nearly as precise. For precision rifle, you need precision weighing....
@TeensierPython3 жыл бұрын
Just got one of these. Its so cool. hopefully i watch this review and you think so too. i always watch reviews after i buy.
@jassonco5 жыл бұрын
That's an expensive dropsy waiting to happen, when emptying! How many drops can a precision balance/scale take?
@xenonram5 жыл бұрын
People who use words like "dropsy," will DEFINITELY be more prone to dropping it. Right?
@jassonco5 жыл бұрын
@@xenonram There is a high potential for an accidental dropping of a an expensive piece of equipment, such as this! Unless one to put it on some type of dedicated riser mount, so as to access the straw to empty the hopper, is that a better explanation for you?For the time being, I'l stand fast with my Frankford Arsenal Intellidropper, it's a solid performer. It's like people are on Recruit Difficulty around here.
@jimhans15 жыл бұрын
Price point on it is WAY to high for an RCBS powder dispenser. And it’s horrible that it requires you to lift it up to drain out the powder. I’ll stick with my pair of Chargemaster lites and use the extra $500 dollars I would have had spend to buy this for bullets and powder. I wouldn’t even entertain buying it if it were half of the price they are asking based solely on the powder drain location. I can get a damn nice scientific balance for less than that thing nowadays. Buy a Harrell’s powder dispenser and scientific balance and trickler for the same cost and be faster and just as accurate if not more, AND I don’t need to worry about dropping them during powder draining. A big huge pass for me on this machine. Great review Gavin, just not a great product!
@Dustysa45 жыл бұрын
Gosh, I assumed street price would be $450 to $500. At $900 intro street price, I can't imagine they're going to sell many of these. Stupid price point aside, the drain seems like a point of concern. I don't think I'd like to pick up an ultra sensitive scale ($1124 MSRP) and smack it repeatedly to get the powder out of it.
@hardybirch36305 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.....I have the Chargemaster Lite and use it as a standard with which to measure other powder measure/dispensers. If you provide feedback to RCBS, let me suggest that it appears that the audio feedback (beep--beep) seems to be missing on the Matchmaster and I think it really is one of the features of the Chargemaster Lite that makes a big positive difference. Also, you might consider starting a special powder dispenser club for folks that have left the drain open and tried to fill the hopper. I know at least two potential members. Thank you for the review.
@bigred061005 жыл бұрын
Functions like my chargemaster lite, that price is the killer, just a Chargemaster lite with lipstick on
@OkieFarming4 жыл бұрын
I can't see any advantage over my chargemaster. In fact, the price and powder drain being on the bottom would be a killer for me
@randyemerson84074 жыл бұрын
@@OkieFarming, agreed. I bought my Chargemaster Lite new for $160 (Cablea's Bargain Cave + Veteran discount) and it gives me accuracy that allows consistent .250" groups and a best of .120" from my match rifle.
@halfdollar864 жыл бұрын
Randy Emerson I’m thinking the same thing. I bought my chargemaster and RCBS rock chucker supreme from Cabela’s for 269 for the kit and the chargemaster and they had $175 rebate if you spent 500. So for $363 I got an entire reloading setup a few years back. That was a great deal. With the chargemaster and the kit I have been able to load several 1/4 MOA loads for a few rifles. If the rifle is capable I’m able to get the best out of it with just the plain chargemaster .
@gregw34325 жыл бұрын
Love the speed, a whole lot easier than using a spoon and scale. I think you need to remind folks how important it is to store the powders in their original containers when they are actually loading. Thanks for another great video!
@dreauxmire5 жыл бұрын
Wish they would have put wind screen on a hinge. Both the new models fall with regards to the wind screen. I was very excited about this powder dispenser when introduced, but not so much now. I say that due to the wind screen, bottom drain vs. side drain “preference” and price closing on that of the AutoTrickler.
@timmartin64105 жыл бұрын
Over at Midway they have it listed, in stock 11/20 for $899 (List price $1123.95) OUCH!
@Plainsimple675 жыл бұрын
HOLY COW!!!! I WAS READY TO BUY ONE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM GONNA GET THE $199.00 MODEL, TRUST ME IT WILL DO THE JOB AND THEN SOME.😉👉
@JFT8035 жыл бұрын
@@Plainsimple67 Holy shit 899! fuck that. I agree the $200 model will do the exact same thing
@ON_THE_PERF5 жыл бұрын
What the actual????
@Plainsimple675 жыл бұрын
@@JFT803 for sure.
@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one it's going to be awesome
@Do-UR-Research27494 жыл бұрын
You should have placed the charge master in match mode to check its accuracy. It was likely rounding up to the nearest decimal point. In match mode it reads to the hundredths of a grain.
@benishehe5 жыл бұрын
its like a slower version of the frankford arsenal electronic dropper, but at a mere 4x(or more!) the price! what a deal.
@GunWodan5 жыл бұрын
Sean Lockner while I do agree the price of this unit is insane, the 0.04gn accuracy is also 2.5x of what you get from the 0.1gn accuracy of the frankford arsenal. Basically all other electronic dispensers are stuck with that 0.1gn accuracy - with a little practice you can get that accuracy from a drum dispenser
@greenacres45184 жыл бұрын
A cheaper and more accurate end result is to get the RCBS chargemaster lite, an electric trickler and a lab grade scale in grains (A&D EJ123) accurate to 0.02gr (2× more accurate than the above shown product) around $600-$650 for all 3, but much slower. Hundreds of shooters complain of sudden inaccuracies of dispensers, is mostly due to static electricity in the plastic, acrylic parts. Clean all these surfaces with an amonia free glass cleaner, get an ESD soldering matt which grounds to Earth ground. I even run a earth ground wire to the body of the dispenser. I have zero static. Lights and magnetic items need to be 45+ inches away. You'll know you have static when the powder sticks to the clear tube.
@fee_lo83465 жыл бұрын
Things just keep getting better and better. It’s crazy. Unfortunately the continued to get more expensive too 😂.
@rustypatrick46085 жыл бұрын
Definitely a no go for the price point. Along with the amount of time it takes to finish a load. Now if it was half the price, then it would be a much more interesting option.
@lausd35625 жыл бұрын
After looking up the price I will continue to do this by hand with a scale.
@richardnear41605 жыл бұрын
I agree. I do it the same way myself
@richardnear41605 жыл бұрын
I agree. I do it the same way myself also
@christianustvedtkavli31695 жыл бұрын
Still quite much slower compared to the autotrickler, and yet not as accurate. Do you see any benefits of this unit over the autotrickler?
@G5Hohn3 жыл бұрын
I don’t. You can get into a V4 with fx120 for $1000
@bchupp15 жыл бұрын
ILL STICK WITH THE AUTOTRICKLER V3
@chevrofreak5 жыл бұрын
Not bad I suppose. I would love to see you test the drops from the Frankford Arsenal Intellidropper on the FX120i the way you did in this video.
@stevemiller60442 жыл бұрын
I just watched a RCBS that said to NOT use the wind screen BC the static from it will effect accuracy.
@vprojekte4 жыл бұрын
The previous model was particularly bad. RCBS was forced to release a new device. I did some tests on my channel and showed how unreliable the previous model is (unfortunately only in German). I no longer trust RCBS. At the beginning everything was fine - but not later. I am now using the 10-10. At that time, RCBS still delivered good quality. Still a good video! Thank you. greetings Tom from germany
@ctclimberguy345 жыл бұрын
Fx120 auto trickler for the win.
@zcavka9165 жыл бұрын
For $900 you can have the Autotrickler full kit with what is likely a better scale.
@Flutes20003 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video but did I missed something? Speed? check. Precision? check. What about consistency? I can be patient, and I can adjust for precision, what I want/need is consistency.
@jonlennon33484 жыл бұрын
The price is very high and rcbs has always been high over the last 15 years. I wish they would cut their margin a bit to make it more attractive to everyone.
@donjohnson86273 жыл бұрын
I currently use a regular RCBS Chargemaster Combo to get within about 1 to 1.5 grain of my chosen load and then move the charge over to measure the load and finish it off with a trickler on a smaller, more accurate scale. I don't really care about how fast or slow the first part of the process is because while the Chargemaster is doing that, I use the time to visually check the case I just finished pouring the last load in to be sure it didn't receive way too much or not enough powder or got skipped maybe and then set whatever bullets I am going to later seat to indicate to me that it has been charged AND visually checked. I never really just stand there staring at the first stage of charging process with nothing to do but wish it was faster. This method seems to give me good results with SDs down into the single digit range fairly consistently so I'm thinking that my powder measuring part of the reloading routine (I also use bushing dies and a "hard stop" case length/ chamfering trimmer) is precise enough. At this time, though that new RCBS has me doing some wishful thinking, I just CAN'T justify spending nearly 900 bucks (plus shipping and taxes!!) that wouldn't really gain me anything. MAYBE, just MAYBE, I'll go for one after some time goes by and (hopefully) the price settles downward to somewhere more reasonable.
@cs_yt5 жыл бұрын
It's a nice dispenser, the issue is the price. I have a Charger Lite for the bulk drop(for a 25gr I set to 24.8gr),then move the powder to a pan on a precision scale(0.001g) to trickle the last 0.2gr. While I trickle the last part (I use a Hornady vibrator trickler) and drop into the case, the Charger Lite is dropping the next charge. Essentially, I am doing the same, and when I get into a rhythm it is a little faster, but not by much. I would consider one if it was priced twice of the Charger Lite, but not what I've seen.
@larrymitchell35025 жыл бұрын
Very similar workflow for rifle with the FA Intellidropper, precision scale & trickler. For pistol, the Intellidropper alone is accurate to 0.05 gn (verified every 10 or so throws with the precision scale). Loading on a turret press, the next charge is ready by the time I seat and crimp. Intellidropper sits at the bench edge so easy to empty. $900, strain guage & bottom empty - big mistake for RCBS.
@tomelder71934 жыл бұрын
I have been using this about a year now. We shoot 1000yd benchrest it is expensive. But Will shrink your groups! Period we weigh measure and sort everything!
@CascadingDream5 жыл бұрын
As with all strain gage scales, the new RCBS thrower still exhibits all of the same shortcomings. ie, slow, sensitive, and prone to drifting. I don't know what good adding the additional decimal place does when the thrower still struggles to dispense a small rifle cartridge worth of powder under 20 seconds.
@Ultimatereloader5 жыл бұрын
Wondering what you're basing the "prone to drifting" on? From my article: Two-Day Drift Test: Here was my "acid test" for drift: Start with scale turned on, warmed up, zeroed, Leave scale on for two days, Check zero again. After performing the above test, the display read "0.0" - and that's pretty amazing!
@Ultimatereloader5 жыл бұрын
The scale hasn't drifted ever, at all.
@CascadingDream5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimatereloader You threw a charge and then had to hit the zero button. It's in your video.
@Unique3774 жыл бұрын
Manual powder drop dispenser for pistol powders and auto dispensers for flake powders is 10 times faster then when coupled with a five station press. It will drop powder pretty dam close to this scale for 10 times cheaper. Plus you can drop the thing and it wont hurt it. The Lyman Gen 6 is all you need if you want a accurate gain powder load because it doesn’t chop the grains but dropping accurate loads with in a thousandth isn’t the only thing that will help with accuracy folks can’t even resize prepare or even crimp bullets right master all that first before you blow $900
@Bushmasterpilot Жыл бұрын
You hit the number “0” instead of the word “zero” during the transportation screw setup, that is incorrect.😉
@rebelreloading52655 жыл бұрын
What an amazing scale 😍 Looks like you get what you pay for.
@randalloc5 жыл бұрын
Interesting... but I think the price needs to come down... very similar less the .04 accuracy to the other Chargemasters on the market....Gavin you need some bounce dryer sheets on your loading bench for anti-static preps.... they work great. ! Thx for sharing.
@Ultimatereloader5 жыл бұрын
Randall, good call on the static sheets, had some, lost them in the move :)
@reloadrefine2 жыл бұрын
GAVIN 😎 I have watched several of your videos on digital reloading scales. I wanted to ask if you would consider doing a video on the topic comparing several of the different units side-by-side, and verify the accuracy of the scales with your lab scale. “Do any of the smaller scales compare in precision next to the RCBS matchmaster?” Thanks so much for your consideration on this topic. ~Casey
@donaldkerr30803 жыл бұрын
Its been a year since this video. Hows it holding up and do you still like it
@AZGunner-mp7yx3 жыл бұрын
Love the unit, I’m just a bit concerned at constantly having to handle it with regard to a sensitive load cell.
@RockinRack Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it goes through much worse during shipping
@mikecash66724 жыл бұрын
Got one on order. .04 is less thann1 cornel of H1000. Fantastic
@jetthreat50005 жыл бұрын
No thanks. This unit isn’t going to sell well at all. The AutoTrickler V3 setup is 3x faster, more accurate and in the same price range. Hard nope
@steverowe29435 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking.
@nilescoyote48295 жыл бұрын
And the FX has a much better sensor...
@MikoMuru5 жыл бұрын
It will sell because rcbs is on amazon and is easily accessible. People who are just getting into reloading wont know about fx and hop straight on this “match dispenser.” Only the people who have done their research and frequent the forums will want a fx or Sartorius.
@lucass47585 жыл бұрын
Not to mention this RCBS only has 1 year warranty where the FX120i has 5 year warranty
@donbarile89164 жыл бұрын
@@MikoMuru LOL. as of 9/2020 there are 4 reviews on Amazon, 54% of which are three stars and below. This was designed by a committee, especially the drinking straw trick coming out the bottom of the unit. Are you kidding me? $900. dollars? 1 year warranty? Another marketing driven design.
@Naso034 жыл бұрын
I have a Hornady auto charge that is frequently off. I take the powder charge and put it on my balance scale. It’s off by as much as 0.4 grains depending on powder type. I’d like to see how these charges compare on a balance scale. For $900 this better NEVER be off more than 0.02 grains!
@SlavGuns5 жыл бұрын
Its interesting. Like the accuracy. Seems a tad slow. The powder calibration on the Frankford Arsenal seems better... And certainly much easier to empty than the RCBS. Lastly... Is it really $900??????? My god.
@dwainebecherer2176 ай бұрын
I really like this video that be something to get right there
@blaynemacpherson85193 жыл бұрын
I wish the accuracy test between the two you used the match accuracy test to see if it rounded up to .2 or if it was .16. I don’t like the bottom powder dispenser. Good review.
@duckslayer110005 жыл бұрын
I live under a rock so this is very exciting to me. I hope this is a good product.
@jetthreat50005 жыл бұрын
Duck Slayer get an AutoTrickler V3 with the FX120i scale. Much better
@connorfackrell42745 жыл бұрын
How much difference is .08 grains (0.00001 Lbs) really going to make compared to the "low quality" auto tricklers? Worth the extra $700? Also you can get the Autotrickler V3 with a scale for $940 which has the same accuracy if not better and puts out loads much quicker.
@Niobium234 жыл бұрын
When calibrating, the 50g weight should be removed after showing stable before the next step. Small but important point.
@Suasponte-rm8mz4 жыл бұрын
Price point is a killer.
@andrewithtaylora96664 жыл бұрын
My only issue is I have many different types of powder and could only justify this if i made many rounds of the same recipe. I could buy 6 hornady powder measures plus a powder trickler per unit and always keep them with the same powder for they price of one match master...
@bettyesperanzabelalcazarco95372 жыл бұрын
Gracias por su video y su explicacion
@rdsii64 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a really old video. With that said, I have a strange question. In standard mode, is the match master still more accurate than the the charge master?
@luvtahandload79485 жыл бұрын
I've been handloading for over 35 years and have never felt that powder charges needed to be weighed to the second decimal place. I believe that the powder charge sweet spot is not a spot at all but rather a window. The smaller the case, the smaller the window. The larger the case, the larger the window. Two-tenths of a grain for .22 Hornet and similar and .5 grain for Ultra Mags. Powder charges falling anywhere inside those windows will give the same barrel vibrations. I've proved it to myself many times by shooting groups with ammo loaded at the lower and upper range of the window. I've tested most of the more inexpensive dispensers. No way I'm spending my hard-earned bling on the Matchmaster when it simply isn't needed.
@xenonram5 жыл бұрын
Like he said at the beginning, your use case will determine your need for this device. You don't need the accuracy. Other people shooting or past a grand and trying to minimize group size, are going to want to minimize all variables. Even something as simple as reaming and chamfering the flash hole will be done to minimize variables.
@luvtahandload79485 жыл бұрын
@@xenonram Nope. Not even at a 1000 yards do you need to weigh your powder charges to the second or (gasp!) third decimal point.
@TrajanowskiRifleworx3574 жыл бұрын
Can I load black powder with it? If not can I use just the scale without dispensing anything to measure black powder? Maybe a stupid question, but I'm new to electronic scales. Thank you
@henryhenry58973 жыл бұрын
Looks nice but is spend the little extra get the v3 Auto trickler... but in fact I just orders a charmaster lite as it’s still very accurat and cheap
@hewlett2605 жыл бұрын
For some reason I can't help but suspect this unit is neither as fast or as accurate as my Redding BR-30 powder measure. And changing powders or charge weight on my powder measure or simply cleaning up when i am finished is definitely quicker than what this thing would be.
@snowmobileracer694 жыл бұрын
Gavin - can you do a head-to-head of between this and the V3? That would be hugely beneficial and something that anyone in the market would be directly comparing...or trying to with limited real world data out there.
@freeandcriticalthinker44313 жыл бұрын
I was gonna get a V3 but when I found out that I wouldn’t get it till next spring, I said F that and am happy with rcbs. Waiting 8-10 months on a scale? That’s a bummer
@livincincy44985 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I hope that there is a market for this product. I am not sure I see a reason to want one. It seems like a novelty. The accuracy seems noteworthy. Is it needed ? A beam scale is still the gold standard needed for hand loading. The reason RCBS made this product is interesting. I wonder what the projected annual sales will be ? I suspect they will sell out each year to maintain demand. I can't see myself choosing this over doing a charge by hand with a beam scale, powder dispenser & trickler. The warm up time lets you fill a lot of cases in a loading block. I am not sure it is any faster once up and running. It is something new and targeted towards the elite shooting class.
@petersouthernboy63274 жыл бұрын
I’ll stay with my RCBS Chargemaster at that insane price point
@stetsonspurs46804 жыл бұрын
Can you also review the Lyman Gen 6 Powder Dispenser. Id like your in depth review and knowledge on that specific model, and looking through your videos I don't see if you have already reviewed this. Thanks
@jjgriffin32753 жыл бұрын
please do an in-depth review on the NEW RCBS Supreme!!!!!!!!!!!
@holdleftedgeandsendit93514 жыл бұрын
Gavin which would you choose if your were in the market. The auto trickler v3 or the match master?
@clorr0604824 жыл бұрын
Gavin, whats your thoughts on this vs say the A&D FX120i and autotrickler? I want to update my reloading equipment and I want decent to top of the line.... so looking for a suggestion / options
@davebear80504 жыл бұрын
Wonder why manufacturers don't put a grounding lug on these things to bleed off static charges?
@someguy27414 жыл бұрын
You cant bleed off static using a ground strap, the static does not travel well enough through plastic it collects on the surface. However... and this is a new development... in 3d printing there are conductive filaments which are not very conductive but would allow grounding of plastic. I assume they cant be made transparent... so if that isnt critical they should be able to do it.
@dgreenapple4 жыл бұрын
When you compare the RCBS Chargemaster at $380 vs. the Matchmaster at $900, do you think it's worth explaining why 2.4x the price for the Matchmaster is worth it in practical terms?
@cooperbybee43085 жыл бұрын
Steve Anderson would also advise match mode.
@jackgerdes44565 жыл бұрын
Do you have to let it 'warm up' every time or is that just the first start up?
@wingbolt68525 жыл бұрын
This unit will not do well, I bought a chargemaster lite 2 years ago. I decided when it fails I'll go back to my mechanical scale and hand trickle every charge. I can buy a whole lot of reloading supplies with that money.
@foxtales48095 жыл бұрын
I dread to think how much that thing will cost when it hits the uk ! RCBS may well have priced themselves out of the market over here .
@clorr0604824 жыл бұрын
Gavin, what’s your thoughts on this vs the FX120i? I was hoping maybe you’d do a comparison video!
@pstewart54434 жыл бұрын
The thing about this that just blows my mind is cost. Even in match mode I just dont see how it can compare to the auto trickler and a super precise scale.
@eddieb91102 жыл бұрын
Buying this instead of an auto trickle system would be insane.
@stevepodleski3 жыл бұрын
Is the weighing system based on strain gages?
@rethempthoor5 жыл бұрын
Świetne urządzenie, aż oko się cieszy jak się na nią patrzy, ciekawe jaka będzie cena s Polsce?
@sissy1234hhh4 жыл бұрын
Why not the shell casing and not the pan?
@dragonflyfab89825 жыл бұрын
Sooo let's get this straight... If you want to load two different powders you have to lift the unit off the table to drain the unit after you lock the load cell. Then repeat the calibration sequence after releasing the load cell. Who thought this up.
@skullspaws76074 жыл бұрын
dragonfly fab every electronic scale I’ve ever used requires calibration after turning it on. I agree that the drain on the bottom is a dumb idea
@donbarile89164 жыл бұрын
Ah.... Karen in marketing. She's new... so...
@Forumrida386213 жыл бұрын
Well you can actually set it on the edge of the table and it has a line for where the cg is and then drain it and press trickle go to empty the tube while draining... works great to get everything out
@dannywarren15493 жыл бұрын
Like victor Torres said... but f me here in Australia it's over $2000... I will stick to an A&D and trickle up manualy
@MrJeffreyTSanford5 жыл бұрын
Will the firmware be updatable for the general populace? Very nice video.
@rdavid87945 жыл бұрын
The $400 ChargeMaster 1500 needs a free McDonalds straw to dispense the same charge consistently, and now for $900 maybe I won’t need the free straw? You fooled me once RCBS ...
@AUCTIONCAT20114 жыл бұрын
Have the previous rcbs unit excellent product and less than half the price.
@brandontarr54184 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the firmware guys modify that backlight code to be epileptic compatible. Why does it flash?????
@drewsager80112 жыл бұрын
The old chargemaster does a 24. Gr load in half the time of the new one
@lukkar695 жыл бұрын
Already have the A&D FX 120 with the auto trickler. Why didn’t RCBS go with a scale with a .02 resolution in match mode?
@jimhans15 жыл бұрын
lukkar69 they did, when it’s in “Match” mode it switches to a .01gr resolution. In standard mode it is .1gr resolution.
@lukkar695 жыл бұрын
jimhans1 it must have changed because Gavin says in the video .04 grains in match mode.
@lucass47585 жыл бұрын
jimhans1 No....match Mode is 0.04gr accuracy...Standard mode is 0.1gr accuracy.
@jimhans15 жыл бұрын
lukkar69 the OP didn’t say ACCURACY he said resolution! And for resolution it is .01gr in Match mode and .1gr in standard. Resolution and accuracy of a scale are two different things my friend!
@jimhans15 жыл бұрын
Lucas S the OP didn’t say ACCURACY he said resolution! And for resolution it is .01gr in Match mode and .1gr in standard. Resolution and accuracy of a scale are two different things my friend!