Oculus Rift Virtual Pinball Cabinet Mod!

[@SuperDashRendar]

That moment when Jeremy does not like being called from tested. 0:07 LOL!

[@silentKeys20]

Happy to see Jeremy genuinely really excited!

[@keylitho]

They need a second camera in the game so your buddy can stand next to the machine and watch..

[@deadalusshadowduck]

+Keylitho Well that would be the Microsoft HoloLens then I think. The VR future will be so much more awesome than real life XD

[@anononomous]

+Keylitho That wouldn't be too much of a stretch, with the small proviso that you'd need a second headset and VR capable PC to do it. Over the internet could work, or maybe VR will breathe new life into luggable lanparty rigs that you can take to friend's houses for local multiplayer VR.

[@MsHojat]

That is completely possible already infrastructure-wise, the software just isn't written in this game for that. Other games/programs do have multi-user sessions though. One thing is that I wouldn't expect anyone (or the vast majority of people) to actually have two headsets or anything though. The Rift especially doesn't seem suited to it compared to the Vive. Regardless, most people would do it remotely anyway. Plus the devices have nice microphones on them, so that could be used for communication too.

[@jasonjasonjasonjasonjason]

dude team up with the devs of the game and put that out in stores as the retail version of the pinball game. Like Rock Band. Kickstarter! I will back!

[@TheBigBigBlues]

Jeremy one day builds!!!

[@DanHonnen]

+TheBigBigBlues DUDE! Yes!

[@davidislas8193]

Norm just wanted the video to end so he could continue playing

[@amafi_poe]

The teensy might be my favorite thing ever. So easy to make custom input devices even I can do it. I was actually thinking hard about doing something like this myself for the pinball arcade, although I think I'll go for a box to set on my desk over something with legs. Got plenty of teensys not occupied at the moment, got the wood and some sanwa buttons, but I need to research pinball parts. Looking forward to the build log. Hopefully Farsight don't delay Pinball Arcade VR version too long, and hopefully upgrading all my tables won't be too expensive.

[@hiwayM9]

I think the proof of everything Jeremy suspects about old games becoming popular virtual options instead of real cabinets is exhibited by Norman's complete immersion and almost ignoring him. I am a pinball fan. Always was my favorite arcade game option. I would be all over this.

[@hatorigirl1202]

You can see him trying to nod his head or glance in his direction, but the game shakes then. Makes it harder to play and also makes shaky footage.

[@phailu]

it's nice to see jeremy get genuinely excited about something. what else is he passionate about? i could see him doing a lot more than being a replacement for will.

[@shoddyworkmanship4934]

I love pinball, and I love this PinSim. Bravo, Mr. Williams.

[@Adrian_Stone]

Love it, like others have said: can't wait for Plunger / Pinball Arcade VR (can't beat real table designs). As for tilting (I'm not sure how heavy it is) but surely you'd want to add weight to simulate a full-size table's mass?

[@makecoolthingsblog]

+Adrian Stone +1 for Pinball Arcade! Agreed on the weight... But then, the housing appears to still be in a highly...prototypical...state. (Judging from the 'Wexford White Foam Board' label in one of the shots, confirming my suspicion that it's constructed of foamcore, lol.) Making the final version out of plywood like it's part of a real pinball table would certainly help in that regard.

[@NicoIsntHere]

VR with some sort of prop would really take you into the world, I can see a driving chair type setup being amazing with oculus with some racing game. No longer need a bunch of screens to wrap around you, just put aVR unit on your face and really get really feel like you jumped into a Ferrari. Awesome!

[@HomeArcadeInABox]

I build Virtual Pinball Machines and I can see this being a game changer. Good Idea. Only limitation to this is it is not very interactive with groups of people.I want to add this Oculus Rift and Pinball FX2 to my Virtual Pinball tables as an option too so it can be more interactive for people observing.Very creative, thanks guys!!!

[@AX5Terminator]

why does this video cut off at 1:04?

[@killerklowns2010]

+General Ivan im trying to figure that out too

[@TBANmc]

+General Ivan Trying a different browser (firefox) fixed it for me. It's broken in chrome.

[@evilkoolade]

+TBAN firefox didn't work for me

[@shatterdreamz2325]

+General Ivan CAUSE IT SUCKS.

[@RMoribayashi]

+Lumo Lights Not my firefox.

[@chopperboi89]

Here's what I'd like to see in VR. A Tron light cycle game. Put it up on an exercise bike, the faster you peddle, the faster the game goes. Obviously turning the handlebars left or right does the same in-game.

[@iamironclaw]

I had this exact same idea when I first heard about Pinball in VR. Nice to see someone made the thing.

[@peanutismint]

Absolutely love this! I'm thinking I'll probably build one, but I might make mine a tabletop variety (as in, without the legs, just a box that I can sit on my desk with flipper buttons on the sides and maybe a plunger to launch), and I'll probably combine it with an arcade stick layout on top so that I can play the inevitable video arcade simulators. In fact, I already remember a program I tried on the DK2, something like 'VRcade'?? Which was awesome.

[@Archangel125]

I like this guy. He can take something I dont care about and show me why its cool.

[@keithfulkerson]

For the plunger, maybe you could mount an analog stick far under a real plunger. Attach a long bar to the top of the stick going up and attached to the end of the plunger.

[@tijolex]

You could padhack an xbox 360 controller to work as a interface for the buttons. Arcade controller modders and builders have been doing that for years now, you could try it instead of needing a software to fool the computer. Also, Norm looking at Jeremy and at the camera while using the oculus was hilarious =D Awesome job man! Make a video when the improved version is done!

[@SeanHarlow]

+Alan Reis True, but that's more expensive and means you're limited to the inputs and functionality available on an Xbox 360 controller. Using the Teensy means the full capabilities of a USB HID input device are available to you, at the cost of a bit more complexity in initial setup. Hacking the controller does of course make it easier to make wireless if you so desire, and gives you support for the associated console as well which may or may not be useful.

[@JosephJonesJRJ]

Played Pinball FX for an hour last night on the CV1, it's a really great experience. I loved the "Mars" table. Love the idea of a cabinet mod.

[@johnsmitty7447]

wow he was just talking about this on last weeks episode and now he has one built and working

[@qster]

We're going to end up with a hell of a lot of vr peripherals.

[@frogger5687]

Does the video cut out at 1:04 for anyone else?

[@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail]

That's awesome. Great job Jeremy.

[@makecoolthingsblog]

Nice! I need to make a controller like this for my father for Pinball Arcade! *Some suggestions:* For a plunger, I'd take a real plunger, and 3D print a rack and pinion to attach to the end that drives either an old joystick pot (quick) or a magnet / hall effect sensor. (refined) As for the flipper buttons, you can go with real leaf switch buttons, or just get some standard Happ arcade buttons from GroovyGameGear with 'microleaf' switches. Basically it's a non-tactile switch that's a drop-in replacement for the standard microswitch, but has the smooth click-less action and instant responsiveness of a leaf switch. (I used them for fighting games before I switched from American to Japanese style controls.) Like a leaf switch-- and unlike a standard microswitch --it's 'reset' as soon as it's no longer actuated...allows for rapid fire. ;D

[@OrganicGreens]

Makes me glad Jeremy's a bigger part of tested now

[@supersnappahead]

I love Pinball FX n VR. I wish Pinball Arcade actually released their stuff for VR. It would've been endless entertainment.

[@MrLinguist88]

Norm in VR-Headset next to the table with controls looks like this guy in the video, who is humping a doll while sitting and wearing a VR-headset xD

[@HoldFastFilms]

I never gave two shits about VR but this definitely has me interested. Like Jeremy said, real pinball games are insanely expensive these days. I don't even want to know how much Flash Gordon goes for these days ... Looks very promising and I can brush up on my cabinet building skills!

[@mrzozelowh]

+Hold Fast Films Unfortunately, Pinball FX 2 has an invasive EULA that gives the developers the right to datamine anything and everything on your computer. If you don't care, then definitely go for it!

[@HoldFastFilms]

+mrzozelowh thanks for the heads up but I never put my cabinets online so they ain't getting jack ;)

[@ChrisBarrett1]

You can actually get digital pinball tables that use Kinect to track your head so you can see everything from different angles. I won't deny the greatness of this setup though, and it won't take up as much space!

[@DEADB33F]

Needs a couple of solenoids inside the case to make the flippers 'clunk' and maybe also inegrate into the game for tactile feedback when bumpers are hit, etc.

[@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail]

+James Bradwell Some tweaks like that would certainly enhance the experience. Wouldn't be too difficult or expensive either.

[@jaistanley]

Sweet use of 'props' to immerse you into a VR world. I love it. Now I want to see a car cockpit in a similar vein running Assetto Corsa!

[@zevindd]

I've thought many times of making a lap controller for pinball, and my plan was to use a slide potentiometer connected to a real plunger to get the effect. With the teensy you could to a map from the analog pins to the right joystick in the controller and it "should" work fine.

[@Mctittles]

We're going to need games like this to come with a finer tuned view adjustment. I was able to line up real world object to virtual ones in Unreal by peeking out the nose so I could see both the real and virtual at the same time and making measurements on the difference to get the 3d object size correct. This helped by having keys to adjust the view incrementally.

[@swfreeD]

Jeremy Williams should mount real coils/solenoids inside that thing hooked up to the flipper buttons to provide some haptic feedback, making it feel like those flippers really flip.

[@film79]

Hey there is actually an amazing add on to Future Pinball where you can use a kinect to track your head movement making the image not static. Look it up on KZbin it makes it look like it has real depth but without 3d glasses.

[@csipari]

While at it making this "pinball" fake table, why not put a regular arcade-stick setup on top of the board there. All-in-one solution that is easy to stow anywhere

[@bliglum]

My copy of Virual Boy galactic pinball had this beat!!! I was playing across the solar system!!!! Haha! No seriously, this is cool. I'm a car guy, and have very much enjoyed sim racers with my Logi G27 and DK2!

[@KuneMaster]

If Pinball Arcade supports VR I definitly need to build one of these... can't wait for the build instructions ;-)

[@Butzo]

Really love Jeremy's enthusiasm. This is definitely an awesome crazy future we're heading towards.

[@Kaszi46]

There is a mod called DAB which is do the 3d perspective. You need a kinect or a headtracker to make it work. Working almost with all pinball game like vpinmame pinball arcade pinball fx etc

[@IsaiahCoberly]

Yet another way to have a stationary VR experience.

[@AngelLuisTrinidad]

This is the first VR game that grandpa would love. Now kids save your allowance money to buy grandpa this VR.

[@NULUSIOS]

...erm where is the rest of the video?

[@NULUSIOS]

+NULUSIOS weird... this is 1:04 in Chrome and 12.21 in Explorer...

[@MikeTrieu]

Hah! It was kinda funny how Norm tried to look at Jeremy when Jeremy was talking to him. I suppose that level of natural interaction will have to come with AR rather than VR. Meta can't come soon enough.

[@Norwaynumber1]

+Mike Trieu (MegasChara) maybe in the future they will have some type of kinect camera at the front so if it sees a person close to you it puts them inside the game so you can see and talk to them and not bump into them.

[@lundygras1]

I would add a coin slot for quarters as the start button. You can then collect a little cash from your friends who will be dying to play and finance your future VR pinball purchases.

[@LuckyCoinFrog]

Wouldn't it be cool if they added a camera to the front of the head set? Then whenever you faced someone talking to you within a few feet it used facial recognition to select your friends head and shoulders and projected the live feed into the game you have up. Like a faded ghost. That way you can have a quick chat without taking the headset off and leaving the game!

[@imagamejunky4652]

Jeremy stole my idea! Good job man. I'm only in the very first stages of building mine. I'm sure that Visual Pinball and The Pinball Arcade will eventually work in VR too. With VP I will be able to run all of the force feedback stuff in a cabinet mock up like yours. I recommend you check out Zebsboards for your digital/analog plunger. Junky

[@pimphandgamester]

What would be awesome is to VR an entire arcade room from the 80's running MAME arcade games and some pinball.

[@matloo]

Where's the rest of this video gone? It used be about 12 mins

[@RETRONuts]

Is it any good on Pinball Arcade and Pro Pinball with Oculus Rift,I don't like Zen Pinball cos its not a real pinball and don't look like ones with all the animated characters on it..?

[@griffisman]

Really neat build. It's going to be an interesting couple years seeing where VR goes.

[@motionbasti]

I played that pinball fx vr game and after my first round, i only wanted to have this haptic emulation. So i built it by my self. It's much better, as play it with the controller only. Additionally, i have speakers in the front (cooler than headphones) and a bassshaker, in the box...to feel the flipperarms and the ball bump to the obstacles.

[@ratodebanhado1]

The game "pinball arcade" that should invest in virtual reality. That game is a faithful representation of the real machines.

[@KingOfKYA]

Use a hall effect sensor that shoudl detect the plunger fairly easily. With a magnet on the end.

[@IndependantMind168]

Good job Jeremy. This looks like a fun and practical project.

[@FausseFugue]

This is a little like the TARDIS in Doctor Who, it's a full size machine that fits in a machine 1/10 of it's normal size! It's pretty cool! Makes you wonder what the rooms and tools of the future might look like once more people start buying VR headsets!

[@rtkiiiprod]

I hope this comes out for PS4 VR...I have a pinball virtual cabinet already...but what a difference!

[@30LayersOfKevlar]

Use Vive and create a whole virtual arcade, with different cabinets and stuff.

[@noahbobrow]

Then u could physically walk to each cabinet, which would be dope

[@Heaney5551]

+Quantum Custodian You can do that with the Rift too.

[@niqhtt]

+Quantum Custodian how would that be any diff from Rift

[@ianking.5721]

+niqhtt the rift is crap

[@javierprieto6142]

+niqhtt the Rift has a completely different tracking system to the Vive, it is meant to track the controllers and the headset within an entire room. The Rift is only meant to track the headset in the range of the prespective of the IR camera in the kit. So overall, the Vive could give you an even more immerse experience than the Oculus.

[@TheTechhX]

I would love to get a pinball table but fuck spending thousands of dollars for just ONE table, when this is INFINITE tables for only $100, like I would even pay a bit more for a professional one made out of the same materials as a cabinet, a real plunger, and haptic feedback when you hit the flippers.

[@RussFling]

+TechhX It'll be a little more than $100. The computer and the Oculus Rift are going to be around $3,000 dollars..............

[@therealOXOC]

+Russell Fling 1500 is more realistic.

[@silentKeys20]

+Russell Fling 3000 is if u go a pretty decked out system including monitors, just the system and rift could be achieved at 1500ish at minimum specs. Obviously a real pinball table only lets you play pinball, while a decked out gaming rig+rift lets you do many other things.

[@BlueCrayon77]

Not sure about VR version, but you can turn off the ball trail in all the other versions!

[@wardman21]

Watching him play that game in the last video I knew he was gonna make this! I was gonna do the same thing. nice build!

[@jameslamb4573]

I might buy into VR when Microsoft or Apple build an app that allows me to use my computer like those in "Minority Report" for example. No reason an "entertainment" driven device can't be used to improve workflow.

[@CDRaff]

+James Lamb Check out a piece of software called "Virtual Desktop"(bad name; too general), it is still early in development, but I think it has the potential to do some really interesting things for productivity. Also MS has said they are working on VR implementation in Win10.

[@jameslamb4573]

+Christopher Raff Thanks for that, can't say I've been following VR much but it's good to know there are developments towards more "serious" applications. Now, if someone would develop a "driving at night" system that takes the input from several cameras (IR, image intensifier), processes them and gives you a "daylight" view of the road. Could even overlay pertinent data, GPS route etc.

[@blastdragon1991]

Make a "Push to Reject"-button on the front and use that as the menu button. It fits on the machine and would complete the look...

[@AttilaTheHun333333]

You really should connect a transducer to that thing, so you have some feedback from the machine...would make the immersion nearly perfect.

[@longshot789]

Wow, I was thinking about doing this. This is awesome. There should be an effort to document/digitize old tables in this fashion.

[@alansession5783]

longshot789 try future pinball

[@DerrickKohlhorst]

Just tried to show this to my wife I watched it earlier. Now its saying the video is only 1 minute and 4 seconds long.

[@Unkso]

+Derrick Kohlhorst Same not sure why.

[@inceptional]

If that pinball simulator bit at the end doesn't convince a whole lot of people that VR is basically the future or games and entertainment, they'll properly never be convinced. What that demo shows, so clearly, is that VR really does recreate both fake and real worlds virtually, that are absolutely good enough to emulate the real thing-and in some ways actually go far beyond it (like having all the virtual stuff going on beyond the boundaries of the pinball tables in this case). All people have to do is apply the idea of what's going on in this demonstration with just about any game or activity they can imagine. VR is the future, and it's frikin' awesome! I even felt compelled to make a little post about this video on my blog; it's that cool: www.inceptional.com/2016/04/02/witness-the-magic-of-vr/

[@TMERUNNR]

That cabinet is awesome! I want to know how to build one. My Racing Sim rig is about 7grand, and vr has totally changed my immersion for the better,so I agree with Jeremy, jis cabinet is a game changer! Awesome Work!

[@Clay3613]

Weird, the guys at GiantBomb were talking about this four days ago when testing the Rift.

[@TauCetiAurora]

Hm, just needs a smellometer to pump out that damp, smokey, pizza bar smell and it will be indistinguishable. Oh, and a mini game where you beg mom and dad for another quarter.

[@DoctorBahnausSee]

now imagine playing vr pinball on this thing, but instead of just some buttons it's actually a real pinball machine. and then imagine you just leave the oculus rift away. that would be even more realistic.

[@theajayyy]

+DoctorBahnausSee Use Google Cardboard Plastic.

[@supersnappahead]

That is badass, Jeremy. Nicely done!

[@Karma69ify]

Any Thoughts on adding haptic feedback on the plungers to give a much more immersive gaming experience? I feel that its just about all its missing. Not sure if the game offers vibration to a controller for such things like the ball moving around but that would be amazing.

[@TheCrowGamers]

Is there a build log and list of parts? I'd be interested in building something like this.

[@pinmike8666]

I never knew Alex Trebek was into pinball!

[@cmdrdrdeath6624]

Btw, you can turn the ball trail off in the graphics option of the game.

[@CrabSt3r]

Yeah a guide to build this would be amazing, switches and cabinet I'm sure is easy to do its the rest of the stuff inside that will be hard

[@Aitor]

using a kinect on a virtual pinball set up will change the perspective according to your location, much better than VR imo.

[@stanlee5465]

Just add a digital plunger and call it a day! I guess I might finally be able to retire my nearly fullsize LCD PinMame Cabinet and build a facade ;)

[@niqhtt]

needs leap motion for your hands. I've never been into pinball, but it's likely i will build one when i get my rift. I would mess with it some and the kids would like it. And have a spot next to my MAME cab, so why not.

[@tim49013]

This is what I need in my life I was gonna build a mini virtual pinball cad but this looks much more cost effective and easier to store 🙏🏼

[@Lithonion1]

That is awesome!!!! I just got into pin about a year ago but have followed it for many years. There are so many pins I would love to own but the price is crazy. You have something going here and when they get Pinball Arcade without latency I will be all over it. I have it now on PC but VR with a Pinball controller that would be over the top! Granted I will always have a few real pinball machines but this would be the icing on the cake.

[@Cssfiend]

10:30 The moment when the American Society of Pinball Aficionados, Collectors and Speculators (ASPACS) decided to put out a hit on Jeremy. RIP.

[@ricklp10]

you should ad a little haptic feedback for when you hit the flippers.

[@ridgetcloud7239]

Super awesome idea! So simple yet so great! VR is going to go places we never would have imagined!

[@DEWGOFFICIAL]

Rift review when?

[@JoeyTitman]

So the video just ends and no one is complaining that much?

[@Elyika]

im not into pinball at all but this is actually REALLY cool

[@zipppiz]

Whats up with the video ends in just over one minute?

[@ahmetmetinuzun]

Oh my god, watching the left side of the screen, Norm's never stopping head movements made me dizzy! Just because you're in VR does not mean you turn into a wobble head.

[@robsteinbock]

Any idea why I can't hear the audio on this video? All other youtube vids working fine.

[@TheGemHead]

Why can I only view 1 minute and 4 seconds of this video?

[@samspence6133]

This would be a great project to build with my dad.

[@deadalusshadowduck]

Well I build my own virtual pinball machine already and VR pinball is the thing I was waiting for... I did not know that Pinball Arcade VR is in the works... I cant wait! This will be awesome! Now I just need to save me some 1,8k bucks to get the Oculus and a computer thats is good enough *sigh*

[@ProjectMoff]

It's almost the end of the year, where is the VR support for 'The Pinball Arcade"?

[@Particle67]

Nice i want it 😄 You played pinball with a strange position. Its like the table is on the ground.

[@voltz15]

I know pinball enthusiasts would advise you to buy the table if you like it that much, but considering how much Gary Stern likes to milk the market for all it's worth I don't mind things like this to give his bottom line a good knock. Pair this with Future Pinball and VR has got it.

[@moog38yearsagoupdated1mont9]

You says there's no delay yet when he press the flipper actually react a sec after.??