Testing 1970s "Spy Camp" Radio & Nooelec HackRF One

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@Doc_Hawk
@Doc_Hawk Ай бұрын
I love how hobby radio is like just 75% attachments and adapters
@arran4285
@arran4285 Ай бұрын
That's before vans filled with attachments and adapters on the roof and sides
@Corey497
@Corey497 Ай бұрын
Mr. Carlson's Lab: ((Heavy breathing))
@mikemar42
@mikemar42 Ай бұрын
LMFAO
@fullmetaljacket76
@fullmetaljacket76 Ай бұрын
I was going to suggest watching Mr Carlson if he didn't know of him. What a resource
@Pertinacissimus
@Pertinacissimus Ай бұрын
​@@fullmetaljacket76 I was going to suggest he collaborate with Carlson. They could both make videos about it for their channels. :)
@psully311
@psully311 Ай бұрын
@@Pertinacissimus That's a fantastic idea, kind of an old vs new approach.
@JamesHalfHorse
@JamesHalfHorse Ай бұрын
@@Pertinacissimus That would be pretty awesome.
@ve7hun
@ve7hun Ай бұрын
Fun video, Gabe! The radiation pattern of a discone is narrow in the vertical plane, so it doesn't receive signals from above well. You'd probably do better on those ISS SSTV signals using your NOAA weather satellite eggbeater antenna. Hope you get some use out of the 'Spy Camp' radio! I wonder what its history was?
@unmanaged
@unmanaged Ай бұрын
That radio is a Cushman MCM - 5. Radio repair text into measure signal strength ... I would reach out to Mr Carlson's lab on KZbin and see if he couldn't give you some information or possibly do a restoration.
@henryganzer4685
@henryganzer4685 Ай бұрын
restoration from mr carlson is one of the gold standard for restoration
@lesliespeaker668
@lesliespeaker668 Ай бұрын
needs a restoration and alignment by Mr Carlson's Lab was my thought as well when I saw the tubes inside and heard the poor signals
@randallclemons8638
@randallclemons8638 Ай бұрын
I'll save this to finish later. Glad I ran across this channel. Everything I have seen are things I'm either into or interested in learning.
@ace_life7079
@ace_life7079 Ай бұрын
This video is definitely one of those videos for people who like taking things apart and looking inside them Just to see how they work.Thank you for showing us all the neat little Do dads that live inside of old technology. keep continuing to make these videos so that we may enjoy them for the rest of our lives
@confuseatronica
@confuseatronica Ай бұрын
one of the things ive noticed as a non radio guy tinkering with sdrs: ADS is one of the easiest things to receive! Even without a dedicated ADSB filter anywhere, I can get 30 or so adsb hits in any 10 second period. Nothing beats having the transmitter fly over you, even if your antenna is supposed to have a null pointing up.
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun Ай бұрын
FM notch filters only provide about 15dB of suppression. So if they're on the downstream (gain) side of an amplifier, they don't do that much--the signals "seen" by the receiver will be roughly similar to what you'd see without your LNA. When I was doing APT experiments about 8 years ago, I had FM-notch, amplifier, cable, radio. Also, an LNA is *useless* if it's right next to the receiver--or to be more precise it's no longer an *LN* Amplifier. The noise figure of the LNA is added to whatever losses are ahead of it, so you always deploy them snuggled right up to the antenna. Your FM notch filter will have a small amount of loss outside of its suppression band, but can still be usefully used ahead of an LNA.
@rkirke1
@rkirke1 Ай бұрын
2nd this as a qualified ham. If there's a few particularly strong interference sources you could look at notch filters. Vintage computer people might get mad at me for this, but if you can find a load of surplus 10base2 RG-58 network cables and BNC tee adaptors for cheap, you can use shorted stubs of coax in parallel with your receive line to very selectively "notch out" offending channels. You'll need a tee adaptor and a BNC cable "stub" of a certain length shorted at the end for each channel you want to filter out.
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun Ай бұрын
@@rkirke1 The only problem with simple stub notch filters is that the notch response repeats at odd harmonics, but I have used this technique myself, and it works OK.
@micahnightwolf
@micahnightwolf Ай бұрын
I've been watching enough shango066 to know that you NEVER power up an old piece of electronic equipment (especially one with vacuum tubes) unless you test the capacitors to make sure they aren't shorted. Things can get very explodey if you just pound some electrons into it without knowing its condition.
@francistheodorecatte
@francistheodorecatte Ай бұрын
or the non-invasive method: just power them up with a current limiter like a 60w lightbulb in series with the live.
@youzrnaim
@youzrnaim Ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for that input. I have a shortwave radio I need to restore and I have a lot to learn.
@JH-jp9sv
@JH-jp9sv Ай бұрын
Bring the V up slowly with a $15 rheostat.
@MaxUgly
@MaxUgly Ай бұрын
Came down to say this but have never used the lightbulb method, good idea!​@@francistheodorecatte
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I think this particular one was sold as "tested, turns on", so I knew someone had already plugged it in recently.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 Ай бұрын
That Cushman is definitely older than the '80s based on the style and tubes, and might have been designed much earlier than the '70s even. Appears to be a bench unit for testing radios. Maybe one of those long running products.
@androgenoide
@androgenoide Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they were making solid state equipment in the 70s.
@414s4
@414s4 Ай бұрын
Yeah that was closer to the late 50s or early 60s.
@jonlangford7622
@jonlangford7622 Ай бұрын
I listened to a whole lot of 60 and 49 meters through a discone antenna set up inside of a ground floor apartment. Sometimes common wisdom can get in the way of a good time. Thanks for the video.
@ScotHarkins
@ScotHarkins Ай бұрын
The book feels like a workbook to go with a class. The book's stock number might help.
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Ай бұрын
Thanking you most kindly from English England
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan Ай бұрын
As opposed to the parts of England that aren’t as _English_ as they used to be ??
@adamswire9152
@adamswire9152 Ай бұрын
Wish we had a Haxman surplus store here....
@michaellichter4091
@michaellichter4091 Ай бұрын
A very beautiful tube device; with a little care, it will work like new again. I love these devices; they are very sturdily built and will most likely survive any EMP. The antenna is really good-I used to use one like it in the past.
@sgath92
@sgath92 Ай бұрын
That Crushman would undoubtedly be a very good performer... if it were restored and aligned. Unfortunately I tried to find a manual to link to you and couldn't find one. You're probably going to have to go over it looking for drifted-to-out of tolerance resistors, failed capacitors (be especially mindful of electrolytics outside the power supply section). And then you'd need someone with a good quality tube tester like a TV-7 or Hickok 539 for all of those tubes. Even in 1974 tubes were on their way out, the look & feel of the thing is more late 1950s/early 1960s (that blue-gunmetal-grey was big around then- see gear made by Hammurland, Heathkit, Hallicrafters from that era and you'll see how popular it was around then). Done properly, the higher end tube stuff should blow most modern stuff out of the water but you're not going to find a lot of high frequency coverage in that era of gear. My Hammurland HQ-180 blows the pants off of my SDR stuff for anything below 35 MHz.
@JH-jp9sv
@JH-jp9sv Ай бұрын
As a proprietor of may tube devices, my oldest from 1925, this is the answer.
@DominicGo
@DominicGo Ай бұрын
I am currently listening to a podcast called "lost terminal", and it mentions a lot of radio related stuff (vhf, satellite, etc); i'm slowly understanding what they are thanks to your videos haha
@Tom6x6
@Tom6x6 Ай бұрын
Looked it up. I like it. Thanks for mentioning it.
@jasongreene303
@jasongreene303 Ай бұрын
Hey, Gabe. The biggest problem with that discone is it's pattern. Those elements are designed to give a low take off angle for listening to ground stations, plus a small amount of gain making . Throw together a dipole for comparison. Sweeping it (or any antenna) with a VNA will give more answers, so don't stop with just measuring SWR Also look at the return loss to know the antennas efficiency. Hams and other hobbyists think that SWR is the holy grail, but it's just the beginning of the quest if you choose to travel far on that road. The QFH antenna is designed to interface to a rotating signal if you will. I'm not sure how well it will work with a static signal, but there will be some loss. You figured it out, the reason you see so many harmonics is bc SDR's of this type do not have any filters whatsoever, while band specific receivers (and transmitters) have band/low/high pass filters built into them. The filter is only capable of taking X amount of signal out, and you also learned this by putting the filter before the amplifier. The losses through that filter (which you could also measure with a VNA) are negligible compared to the noise not filtered out by the filter. The Spy Camp radio may have a bad stage in the front end, which would be why you can only hear maybe the strongest FM station. Look at the caps in it, and if they have any that are leaking, are wax, or don't look like modern devices then replace them with the same values. The only exception are the domino caps, those usually last forever but test them anyway.
@phonix6494
@phonix6494 Ай бұрын
You want to first filter out the strong FM bevor you send the signal to the LNA so it does not get overlaoded. And you want both as close to the antenna as posible that way you have the strongest posible signal for your LNA to amplifiy
@brandon7219
@brandon7219 10 күн бұрын
the clifford heath version of the hackrf1 helps with not damaging the board when using the amplifier
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun Ай бұрын
My fave radio when I was a pre-teen was a Stromberg-Carlson AM/FM receiver, designed in the 1950s, and we got it from a nabe who was unloading a bunch of things. Tubes, of course. I still had it into my late 20s...... I also had a Hallicrafters multi-band shortwave receiver--similar vintage. Now, they are rather more rare, and when you can find them, they often fetch a pretty penny....
@graemezimmer604
@graemezimmer604 Ай бұрын
SDR receivers are a neat toy which allow you to hear a wide range of frequencies, but they have very poor Selectivity and also cannot handle strong signals. The add-on filters are needed because the manufacturers have left out the critical RF filters that you would find on a more expensive receiver. One thing the SDR's do have is a fairly high Sensitivity, which means that they can hear fairly weak signals. The down-side of Sensitivity without adequate Selectivity, is that the stronger stations (eg Broadcast FM) will cause overload and give spurious signals right across the dial. The basic rule of RF designers is "Coils before Transistors" (eg "Selectivity before Sensitivity"). The problem is that Transistors are cheap, while Coils and Filters are expensive. Once your design allows strong signals to overload the set, you have lost the game. To improve your SDR, one of the most useful things is an adjustable attenuator. If you see FM stations everywhere, your are into gross overload and cross-modulation, so you need to greatly reduce the gain so that no longer happens.
@thraxcide
@thraxcide Ай бұрын
Dude, I don't even remotely possess the knowledge to do any of this, but I watch and marvel. Wish I had a neighbor like you 🤘
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun Ай бұрын
Discones often have a vertical element that improves the VHF-and-lower performance.
@wjw1961
@wjw1961 Ай бұрын
Gabe: It looks like the MCM-5 is a piece of test equipment, not a general-purpose radio. It operates on a few specific frequencies, defined by a set of crystals in a crystal oven. The table on the inside cover shows you the frequencies available for that unit. The selector knob lets you choose between those frequencies. Use the ZERO FREQ. ADJ. function and knob to tweak the operating frequency, probably by comparing the CRYSTAL OUT signal to a reference. (I used to use WWV for checking a frequency counter.) If you're testing a transmitter, you can use the MCM-5 to check different parameters, selected by the knob at lower left. SIG. LEVEL appears to be pass/fail, shown by the green scale second from inside on the meter. To see how far off the transmitter carrier frequency is from the reference, use the "CARRIER FREQ." mode and the two outer scales of the meter. To check the peak FM deviation, use the 18 Kc or 6 Kc. FM DEV functions and the red scales on the meter. (IIRC, FM broadcast uses 100 kHz deviation. 18 and 6 kHz are "narrow band" FM, for communications equipment, rather than high-fidelity music.) The "FM MOD. PEAKS" switch allows you to check peak positive or negative deviation from the carrier frequency. The SIG. GEN. function allows the unit to produce a signal for testing receivers, with the SIGNAL OUTPUT ATTENUATOR selector switch and pot adjusting the level (albeit uncalibrated). I don't know what the HARM. AMP TUNE function and knob do, nor the (apparent) ten-turn pot for GEN. LEVEL SET.
@ahbushnell1
@ahbushnell1 Ай бұрын
That book looks like its slides from a presentation.
@Screamingtut
@Screamingtut Ай бұрын
that 70's radio is a version of a Radio service monitor way cool.
@TheKingAdRock93
@TheKingAdRock93 Ай бұрын
I live to hear "Hi! And welcome back to the saveitforparts channel"
@Discopuss
@Discopuss 26 күн бұрын
All about the signal to noise ratio! At least for short wave a few meters of wire (like your yellow wire) strung horizontal improves signal significantly. Hang it outside away from electrical stuff. Next is reducing the noise floor. There is a tiny and dirt cheap ($15) 9:1 balun you can get for SDR and that has made a world of difference in cutting down noise for me. Use shielded cable wherever possible etc. You should be able to get that old radio singing without a lot of hassle, but you've got to start with a good antenna or it will never be great. Can't wait to see how you progress with it!
@randyab9go188
@randyab9go188 Ай бұрын
That is a service monitor. Used to align two way radios.
@bernarddier1060
@bernarddier1060 Ай бұрын
I have never seen one of these, but I have serviced many Cushman monitors. This is NOT intended for DX work, but for bench use, so there is no preselector. The FM-2 was similar, and could generate calibrated signal used in receiver alignment. It does need to have the capacitors replaced. I have replaced many electrolytics in Cushman equipment much newer than this. The oscilloscope jack is to observe the FM signal. Looking for distortion, etc.
@PPLNG
@PPLNG Ай бұрын
man your channel really launched my interests into weather and satilite communitacions. You are a goldmine of info. Also ive always wanted toask what is your inspiration behind your beared style?
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
It mostly just grows that way, I can't make it do much else :-P
@fotografm
@fotografm Ай бұрын
Try a whisk or eggbeater antenna for overhead passes. That might give you better high angle reception.
@Josh_FSD
@Josh_FSD Ай бұрын
Love the shirt!!!!! The Give up one.... Well, all of them are great!!!
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I think that one is from Obvious Plant, who always has fun products!
@oasntet
@oasntet Ай бұрын
The main issue with the discone for trying to receive from the ISS is that the discone is great for low angles. It's exactly the wrong antenna for talking to satellites, which are both way above the optimal angle and also circularly polarized. That's why you had better results with a dish - you could point it more easily.
@cottonfoo
@cottonfoo Ай бұрын
They're also fairly compromised. A jack of all trades, but not very good at any of them.
@oasntet
@oasntet Ай бұрын
@@cottonfoo The one thing they absolutely excel at is bandwidth, which in some cases is exactly the thing you need. Especially if you want a 'works well for any band' SWL antenna that has no active components.
@waylonk2453
@waylonk2453 Ай бұрын
What a neat machine that wide-band receiver is!
@1208bug
@1208bug Ай бұрын
Thanks Gabe, always interesting!
@winterburan
@winterburan Ай бұрын
😃I like your videos because they are accessible to almost everyone, you can see that there is a lot of passion and self-learning, experience nowadays is a rare thing, today enthusiasts are less and less, but there are many professors who study on google and youtube and then teach with zero experience and do tutorials. With a professional SDR like a sdrplay RSP1B or RSPduo, you would have no problem with external filtering, they are 14-bit SDRs with built-in filters, so today they are the best choice between cost and quality, they are another planet compared to the cheap ones with 8-10 bit sampling without filtering, to do what you do even the nooelek with external filters is fine, my disk is a Sirio SD 1300 N RX: 25-1300 MHz TX (ROS ≤2): 49.5-50.5, 120-180, 215-300, 415-465, 610-650, 710-1000, 1130-1300 MHz! TOP
@VitorFM
@VitorFM Ай бұрын
12:36 as a Brazilian, I couldn't understand a single word 😂
@joeholt7578
@joeholt7578 Ай бұрын
If nothing else. That old boat anchor sure does look cool.
@ultratorrent
@ultratorrent Ай бұрын
You could use the nooelec to do frequency sweeps to figure out how the older unit frequency ranges work on the spy camp box....
@Tom6x6
@Tom6x6 Ай бұрын
I've enjoyed seeing that XPS 13 L322X rocking Linux Mint in several of your videos.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
Still works pretty well for a second-hand donation :-)
@ChrisElmquist-f2r
@ChrisElmquist-f2r Ай бұрын
since the Cushman uses crystals to set the receive frequency, you will really only be able to receive stuff on those frequencies. You could replace one of the crystals with a DDS (direct digital synthesizer; a single chip sort of thing, controlled buy a microcontroller) and this would allow you to tune across the range of the DDS rather than be locked to a single frequency
@archloy
@archloy Ай бұрын
The position of the filter at first make sense for me : if the filter reduce, let say, 3dB, on weak signal, it could be send to noise level. If put after amplifier, you already amplified harmonics and fm signal, for, let say, +15dB, so you just removing 3dB on a strong signal
@migalito1955
@migalito1955 Ай бұрын
Two things. I think you have the baby Discone antenna. I remember there being two sizes available when I considered getting one and one was quite a bit bigger than yours. I also remember the larger being the one to use on 6 & 2 meters. Second, I have the SDRPlay RSP-1 receiver and I never have trouble with 2nd or 3rd harmonics showing up elsewhere such as FM broadcast signals. I wonder if its a matter of not having filters in the receivers your using. Bonus, the antique which looks late 60's to me looks very interesting. Toss it to me if you need to save space, but yes, restoration would be a good idea for it likely has bad caps and perhaps out of spec components now.
@madmike178
@madmike178 Ай бұрын
Love your hackrf sir! No idea what that other thing is. Lol. If you do a lot of tube stuff you may want to look for a variable transformer (Axman!) to bring voltage up slowly.
@W8RIT1
@W8RIT1 Ай бұрын
Agreed, also known as a variac, and they are what many would consider a vital piece of electronic test gear. I'd also recommend you purchase one.
@madmike178
@madmike178 Ай бұрын
​That would be one thing I already have. Been a long time since I ran into anything with tube's in it... but you never know! Good luck with your projects!
@mattstosh6960
@mattstosh6960 Ай бұрын
Time slot: (15:47) morse code (aka CW) was N0BVE/R from Minnetonika Minnasota. I believe it was one of his repeaters?
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan Ай бұрын
Someone else who decodes CW on YT videos
@csparty11
@csparty11 Ай бұрын
I have a discone antenna as well, it's up at the 6 mtr pole, ofcourse the higher the better. But for satellites it doesn't work very well because when there is a high pass the signal fades away, you probably need a horizontal antenna of atleast something with a wider angle if that makes sense. Weather balloon reception however seem to work decently. As for local (air) traffic or FM radio or 2 mtr/70 cm it's all fine, yes you can do much better but you'll need a frequency tuned antenna with more gain but this does everything a little.
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Ай бұрын
You get some good stuff on your new radio scanner
@Hunter-ps2xe
@Hunter-ps2xe Ай бұрын
Most fascinating channel on KZbin
@FatherMcKenzie66
@FatherMcKenzie66 Ай бұрын
I’d buy that antenna just to put it on my flag pole, it looks so cool! Keep it up there!
@p4p4b34r582
@p4p4b34r582 Ай бұрын
Unless I missed it im surprised nobody commented to use good quality coax from the antenna, good shielding will help with some unwanted noise along with a good ground. Give the built up static somewhere to bleed off to instead of into your equipment.
@bradwilmot5066
@bradwilmot5066 Ай бұрын
Most discones have a center element that sticks out the top... does yours not have one, or did it not get installed? If it's missing, that would explain why it's not very good at VHF...
@NickDelDuca
@NickDelDuca Ай бұрын
I think he got the one without it. I got tripped up by that on amazon too when I went to order one. I think he got the 1410 without the VHF, the 1411 is $10 more and has it.
@videotrexx
@videotrexx Ай бұрын
No, not all discones have an element above the disc, I have one, no upper vertical element and it receives just fine on VHF.
@videotrexx
@videotrexx Ай бұрын
​@@NickDelDuca "Without the VHF"????? 25 MHz to 1300 MHz is VHF to UHF (with the very upper portion of HF thrown in), and that's what the Tram 1410 shows for frequency spread, and looking at the 1411, there's a LOADING coil at the base of the vertical element and it's for CB which is NOT VHF. I use mine to transmit and receive on 2M, and that IS VHF.
@graemezimmer604
@graemezimmer604 Ай бұрын
The vertical whip is an add-on to enable a VHF/UHF discone to hear signals below 30MHz, It basically is a bottom loaded 27Mhz antenna.
@AndrewBeals
@AndrewBeals Ай бұрын
And to enable that, most have a 3/8"×24 threaded socket on top with a bolt or cover threaded on.
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 Ай бұрын
Nice fix up. How many watts are those giant brown resistors rated at? You could try tuning the discone at the shack end you might be able to enhance certain bands with a decent tuner. As high as possible is usually best with those. Some other things you could try are modifying certain element lengths for the bands you want and or looking at the discone on the vna to try to get a better idea of where it resonates best.
@Ziraya0
@Ziraya0 Ай бұрын
If you had a big enough room that antenna would look really cool strung up in the air
@MunchkinKF
@MunchkinKF Ай бұрын
In the 70's the Air Force used a unique 'multimedia' format that combined slideshow, 16mm film and simulators for a rather immersive experience that predates PowerPoint by several decades. The counter-countermeasures manual looks to have the same format as the ones we used for training on Minuteman. PS Good choice on the discone, they are a great broad spectrum receive antenna and pair nicely with a scanner. This antenna type works great for terrestrial / aviation but with it's low 'take off angle' means it looks toward the horizon and doesn't look up very well so it is not a good choice for any satellite / ISS / space comm.
@highflowhighflow9896
@highflowhighflow9896 Ай бұрын
you might try a wide band log-periodic yagi antenna to avoid lots of noise and beam to weak signals, the best amplifier is still the antenna
@shawnerz98
@shawnerz98 Ай бұрын
I don't know much about the old radio. But I do wonder if it is AM only? Trying to use it for FM stations, would give audio for strong stations, but that's about it. I also wonder if you could use the HackRF as a signal generator to find the tuning range of the older radio. I'm not surprised at the discone performance trying to get 2M SSTV. The QFH that you used in the previous ISS SSTV video (without the SAW Bird) should work well. Good luck.
@JosephBurt-Main
@JosephBurt-Main Ай бұрын
Gabe, I would appreciate it if you compiled the comments you get for the Tram 1410 into one video. It was the most common antenna on amazon and bought it. Thanks for all you do!
@KageShi
@KageShi Ай бұрын
That is "Death by powerpoint" in print form lol.
@fotografm
@fotografm Ай бұрын
I mount my sdr receiver on the pole right after the discone and use a long USB cable down to the radio room. That way, there is no coax cable signal loss which just adds to the noise figure of the receiver !
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I've had trouble with extra long USB cables, the un-powered ones can't run an SDR and Bias-Tee, and the powered ones add extra interference.
@fotografm
@fotografm Ай бұрын
@@saveitforparts Yep - nothing is ever simple !
@FastLoad
@FastLoad Ай бұрын
I never had good results with that antenna except in the CB band.
@devinholland2189
@devinholland2189 Ай бұрын
Discone is perfect for an old school scanner. If you get one that will do 27mhz and 800 trunked at once then you will have cb and police all on one antenna.
@tomwall75
@tomwall75 Ай бұрын
I constantly snoop on VHF because the cops in my major metropolitan city pirate 150 to 160 MHz for chit-chat and they're a blast to listen to. I have an old 5/8 wave 2m vertical at 25 feet and a Radio Shack PRO-2006 with a computer interface. I run an awesome program called Probe to control it. The selectivity and sensitivity of the 2006 beats the pants off any SDR I've tried.
@W8RIT1
@W8RIT1 Ай бұрын
Interesting...I've never heard of Probe before
@damonforbes8824
@damonforbes8824 Ай бұрын
The ranges on the resistors and capacitors have probably floated out of range. It happens in old electronics. I have repaired many tube amps just by swapping the caps and resistors out. A 1k resistor can float outta range and it will become a few Megs over time. Same kind of thing happens in capacitors.
@sandmanxo
@sandmanxo Ай бұрын
Another way to fix FM harmonics is move somewhere with barely any broadcast band stations. I moved to the middle of nowhere last year and that fixed that issue. I also have a tram discone and hope to actually get it on the air next week and see what I here. There are a few analog fire and police frequencies nearby and even a trunked system in the next county over. Nearest tv station is almost 90 miles away so no worries there at least. I get 3 or so fm broadcast band stations and none are super strong.
@rickrandom716
@rickrandom716 Ай бұрын
Hi you should get that antenna on a metal pipe and ground it it should take more noise off that way
@jrjr1273
@jrjr1273 Ай бұрын
Greetings, That looks like a Cushman Electronics MCM-5..... Which I believe was an early offering from Cushman Electronics of a multi channel service monitor. Thank You for the video. 73, JR
@ahbushnell1
@ahbushnell1 Ай бұрын
A discone antenna has low gain straight up. And a tunned antenna pointing in the correct direction would be better.
@georgec.5284
@georgec.5284 24 күн бұрын
Nice video. Regarding foreign language stations - I've been using Google Translator speech option on my phone while SWLing with decent rate of success. That's assuming you have a decent signal for the app to make out the words :)
@kencabanaw4165
@kencabanaw4165 Ай бұрын
lol@ inconvenient powerpoint. I have that same discone. it was a huge improvement over the standard antennae usually supplied with those sdr dongles. not so much when I tried to even hear something between 137.1 and 137.9mhz
@frank1371
@frank1371 Ай бұрын
This is definitely from the early to mid 60s or older, by the 1970s tubes were finishing being phased out of new components.
@josevaliente421
@josevaliente421 Ай бұрын
YES YES YES CONTAC MR CARLSONS LAB !!! WILL BE GREAT COLABORATION THANKK!!!!
@JH-jp9sv
@JH-jp9sv Ай бұрын
Discones are cool! Good for 2m and 70cm TX too.
@scowell
@scowell Ай бұрын
Discone is vertical polarized I think... also, low sky angle... not good for ISS etc! Egg-beater antennas are better for omni space stuff... for vertically polarized EMCOM discone is great. I would have liked to have seen a closeup of the front panel of the old tube receiver... I could pause the video and peruse it at will... without that info I'm at a loss. Fun stuff though.
@ronwade2206
@ronwade2206 Ай бұрын
Right on!!
@charlesurrea1451
@charlesurrea1451 Ай бұрын
Yeah, you're definitely going to need a scope. It is how you determined your frequency. It's a simple setup. I am amazed you haven't screwed around with one yet.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I have a 1940s scope with about 3 controls... still don't know how to use it 😂
@evilrobotinc
@evilrobotinc Ай бұрын
You have a good t shirt collection.
@alzeNL
@alzeNL Ай бұрын
Cool video - i hope you find out more about the old radio - it looks very cool - esp with the valves in it - probably good to find out more and not turn it on and off too much as to protect the valves tho. Ironically I have just blown up my HackRF :( Now back on another SDR - will see if I can get the HackRF repaired, its a capable and brilliant SDR esp with GNU Radio companion - just as you said - watch the settings and blow it up.. :(
@W8RIT1
@W8RIT1 Ай бұрын
I personally don't experience any interference from FM broadcast stations. I do pickup my local NOAA on 160 MHz as well as 162 MHz where I'd expect them. About 14.500 MHz I start to hear the 20M ham band as a mirror image. USB signals now come in as LSB. But yes, they do sell filters (as you've noted) for FM broadcast.
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Ай бұрын
It was very interesting
@fontenbleau
@fontenbleau Ай бұрын
If there's so much noise, how powerful is that signal in Proxima Centauri found by SETI 😮 which clear such far away.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I'd love to listen to that but I think it's only in the Southern hemisphere.
@youzrnaim
@youzrnaim Ай бұрын
I spotted some stuff in the background. It looks like you're also collecting outboard motors. Do you do any boating other than the sandbox toy?
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I have a few boat videos and lots of ongoing projects. There's an airboat in the garage that I need to un-bury, an old jet boat that has the drive being rebuilt... outboard skiff and a few smaller boats. I need to get one of those antique outboards working and stick it on a catamaran thing that's also an ongoing project!
@W4GHW
@W4GHW Ай бұрын
Verticals are not good at copying the ISS. Consider the radiation pattern. There is a huge null on the vertical axis. Think of the pattern as a doughnut. Up is the hole.
@jamesedwardson605
@jamesedwardson605 Ай бұрын
keep up the good work...
@danielcamposramos9943
@danielcamposramos9943 Ай бұрын
Those pieces that felt are the plug lug nut and washer. Just screw it back and be gentle with the tork.
@randallclemons8638
@randallclemons8638 Ай бұрын
Very cool
@theuniqid
@theuniqid 20 күн бұрын
It is not discone does not work for sats because of it does not resonate there. It does. It just gets signals from its sides but deaf to signals up top. Look into eggbeater antennas that are much better in that department
@lmaoroflcopter
@lmaoroflcopter Ай бұрын
Might not be on the nooelec version but I'm pretty sure my Great Scott Gadgets hackrf has an internal LNA that can be turned on and off using software. Edit: ohhhh you just mentioned it :)
@daniellandwehr443
@daniellandwehr443 Ай бұрын
Thank you Gabe Another awesome video really enjoy the radio videos 73 from kf0myu
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun Ай бұрын
Looks like a 1960s design to me. Possibly even 1950s. Transistors became much more prevalent starting in the 1960s.
@aperturesignaturebandwidth
@aperturesignaturebandwidth Ай бұрын
You should be getting a better image with that audio. However, Discone antennas have a generally downward radiation pattern at resonance and are probably lousy with the sats
@aperturesignaturebandwidth
@aperturesignaturebandwidth Ай бұрын
You can add some gain to the signal here, too, get it way above the nose floor.
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 Ай бұрын
Make sure your compressed air source is got a way to remove the water from the air coming out nozzle
@dustinswatsons9150
@dustinswatsons9150 Ай бұрын
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@TheDroopYJ
@TheDroopYJ Ай бұрын
That box is the print version of death by Power Point
@АндрейЕлескин-л8с
@АндрейЕлескин-л8с Ай бұрын
Yeah, i have too pair old milcom radios, they cool. Biconical antenna better because radiation pattern not depend from frequency.
@KRich408
@KRich408 Ай бұрын
I have several SDR radios and a Ham it Up converter, I want more toys I just don't have time to play with them right now. I'm thinking since buying a house 15 minutes from Lake Superior I could pick up a lot without all the interference from cities. One day I might bring a laptop and the radios up to the lake and see /hear what's out there. Probably a lot from Canada? Maybe.
@DirtyPlumbus
@DirtyPlumbus Ай бұрын
That was fun. 👍
@RaceBanner_
@RaceBanner_ Ай бұрын
*_Seriously disappointed_* you didn’t invest any prep time to making a video about cleaning up & operating the analog receiver. It is sooo much more interesting than yet another Noolec video, keeping mind there are hundreds of them on KZbin from some highly skilled operators.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Ай бұрын
I couldn't find much about this specific one. There are manuals around for other MCM models, but not this guy. Without a manual I didn't have much to go on.
@zsomborherceg493
@zsomborherceg493 Ай бұрын
i would see in that radio if any tube is not working, because it can happen due to impacts or the time, bad seals, or shorted tubes! For the first turn on after long time i prefer a 60 or 40 watt light bulb that lower the currents
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Ай бұрын
2 Christmas 🎄🎁 present 🎁 all ready you have been lucky
@JH-jp9sv
@JH-jp9sv Ай бұрын
I haven't watched more than 2min of the video yet. Congratulations on buying a 1973 paper govt power point presentation. I love my hackrf one also. Where'd you get the case though? When I got mine in 2014 it was PCB only. Bring the voltage up slowly with a rheostat. Holy smokes! Straight into the wall V? Seriously, bring the V up slowly on old gear. Harbor freight makes a good rheostat for this.
@erikgrant8464
@erikgrant8464 Ай бұрын
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