Testing .270 Winchester Handloads with Model 70 Winchester ~ Very Nice!

Want to know how accurate a Winchester Model 70 .270 Winchester rifle is? Here's all you need to know! Weeks ago, I demonstrated to you just how I load my super accurate ammo. Here's how it performed during this bench test!

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

Sometimes coincidences just crack me up. My father (now long gone) grew up feeding his and other families because of his hunting prowess during the Depression years. He was the kind of shooter that would wait till game birds "lined up" before letting loose with his 12 Gauge so as to get multiple birds with each shot as to "Not to waste ammunition" LOL. What did he choose as his favorite rifle? Same rifle as GB490 :) same .270, same 4831 (tho he preferred non magnum primers). What made him such a great hunter was not so much his eyes (which were 20/18) but his "game eye" as he could discern game in cover that most others simply couldn't detect at all. Remember, we were hunting the western mountains and plains where shots were made routinely at 3-4 hundred yards or better, in cover. I'm writing all this because every time I come to this channel, GB sparks a flood of pleasant memories:)

[@ranchodeluxe1]

The silence was never broken as the words poured from his lips Quiet as the forty five he carried on his hip.

[@susana301301]

Great vlog, I do a lot of reloading and have over fifty years of reloading. Even with my experience I learned from watching you! You're never too old to learn!

[@zygotepeyote]

Thanks for taking the time and effort to impart your wealth of knowledge to others! Much appreciated! Give Benny a treat please!

[@jeffbenson6102]

I've been using IMR4350 for years on 22.250, 270 .25-06 no problems!

[@patmancrowley8509]

Ah the venerable Winchester .270. My grandfather had one. On his passing my cousin inherited it. I've never shot a .270 but I hope that some day I'll take the opportunity when it is presented. I've inherited grandad's Marlin 336 in .30-30. Manufactured back in the late 1890's to early 1900's so the serial number indicates. Still shoots great, still looks great. I know that I've probably put 60 rounds through it. Grandad probably put the same number thereabouts since he was an avid hunter. He would hunt somewhere in Wyoming, (with the .270) I don't recall, but I have one of his trips on a film that he shot (8mm) back in the day. He flew in on a DC3.

[@cw2a]

We saw 92 Friday!! CRAZY!!! Today was 73 even thats almost twenty degrees warm! (Ct here)

[@2pugman]

92* in central Jersey yesterday.

[@g-mc4507]

Good to see you out at the range. Love the spotter drone. Thanks for the video.

[@lens7859]

Good to see you outside again! Had a rough winter

[@yukon4545]

I've had good luck with the LEE collett sizing die!! It can virtually, 'iron' out necks. I use it on new brass and range brass. Run the case in, back out a little, spin a quarter turn repeat a couple of times, done.

[@BigT27295]

Great shooting, and nice rig. Love the picture. God bless you and yours Sir.

[@nerradnosnhoj5122]

Thank you for doing the videos , I enjoy them all, the cooking ones included

[@sturisa]

Thanks GunBlue490, enjoyed watching, nice rifle and great shooting!

[@geareas]

Another delightful video with great info! Thanks

[@user-se8ds5ev5k]

I'm stupid to have sold my 270 sendero 26 inch bull barrel a long time ago. Now I have a 700bdl 7mm mag. made in 75 and it simply duplicates the same thing moving at 3070 - 3078. It is not a hot load at all but it gives me the same trajectory as the 280 AI. My old 300 magnum Weatherby Vanguard shooting a 180 gr partition at 3140 does shoot flatter out to 500 yards with a 24 inch drop value when sighted dead on at 200. The 7mm drop value at 500 is 31 inches. This is good to know when you're hunting in the same Altitude and temperatures. I have a friend who lives in Oklahoma and he misses those mule deer in Colorado because he never checked his zero at 8500 elevation and shoots over em every damn time. He's a stubborn old Indian guy that I have known since childhood.

[@Edgy01]

Got a nice pre-64 Winchester model 70 in 270-was my father’s who was from Maine. Good to see somene else taking advantage of a drone to watch the target area! My father in-law had a boat on Lake Winnipesaukee.

[@bobbyboothe8964]

Great video. Thanks for the information and for the flying lessons. GOD Bless.

[@peteconlogue6890]

You've gotta be from Maine with that "Moxie" hat on. My favorite drink !!!!

[@callawayken650]

Nice outfit with the drone to add to the view. Glad to see the results of the accurate loading series. I plan to load up some .243 and do a similar test.

[@edwray0able]

Great loading and shooting!

[@helicopter1ify]

Thank you very much for all your hard work and bringing to us these videos. Your one of the very few You tubers i trust with reloading info ! God bless !

[@willkells]

I'm just back from the range testing some of my first hand loads (I have only been reloading about 2 months). I found one that works realy well today in my m38 6.5x55. Thanks so much for your videos, I feel that the clear explanations of things coming from your obvious wealth of experience has put me on the fast track to making accurate hand loads with out too much trial and error. Thank you from New Zealand 🇳🇿

[@70bluesville]

A hovering drone camera, you are my hero for the next week my friend! God Bless

[@Gearsofchocolate]

I have been following your channel for almost 7 years now and I enjoy every video you upload. Such a great KZbinr and one of my favorites to watch. Thank you for all the knowledge you’ve passed on and I’m always looking forward to the next episode. God bless!

[@chrismills4213]

Great loads and great shooting. God bless.👍

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks for sharing and I had a great time ,see you on the next one ,GODBLESS you.

[@markstrain9429]

I've watched many of your videos. I can only thank you for sharing your vast knowledge . As an older person, who is a beginner, this experience is so valuable when I transitioned to becoming a farmer and protecting my livestock from feral pests. I read your About section and hope your viewers truly appreciate you giving us the opportunity to share this wisdom. Thank You.

[@darrellmayo9066]

I enjoy this video, thanks so much. That's some beautiful country there. I have learned a lot watching your videos

[@shadythereok]

WoW, is an understatement

[@michaeljames2814]

Thanks for taking us along Mr Gunblue! I have a pre-64 270 that i have only used 4831 in cuz it shoots it so well but imr 4350 is my favorite powder for 243 and 7mm-08 so now im curious. Guess i have a reason to make up some new loads tomorrow during the rain! Thanks for all you do...god bless

[@NElj-yq9qi]

Great shooting Sir! I agree with you that any one of those loads would be great for hunting!

[@Simon-talks]

Yeah! Great shooting with that beauty!

[@franciskowalsky7574]

Learned a lot. Really enjoyed your video

[@garlandthomson7501]

Love your channel. Thanks

[@curtmcelvain1749]

Great video! Thanks for taking the time to video, edit and post. Its a lot of work.

[@rwhit79L]

Great tutorial! Thank you!

[@lens7859]

I have found and love my shooting glasses with built in readers. The readers are on the bottom like bifocals. Great for picking up sights or other close work.

[@johnkale6302]

Your videos are awesome!

[@Tim-the-pilot]

I remember as a young boy growing my father would take me and my brother to the shooting range and teach us how to shoot and experiment with different loads. I am retired now(airline pilot) and taking my grandkids to the range..your video brings back fond memories.. ps love the drone..

[@darrellh1840]

Great ending to an excellent series! Thanks GunBlue490! Patiently waiting for the next series…

[@GunBlue490]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@anthonysutherland9487]

Would love to see 30-30 lever at the range with cast 110 grain or something similar. Really enjoy your work. Thank you.

[@shanecoite3292]

Drone footage is awesome outstanding shooting. Keep up the good work. I also enjoyed your cooking videos reminded me of home. Thanks and God Bless.

[@bobkat1663]

Great Show.

[@joefrommontana252]

I’ve been searching all over for your discussion of adjusting seating depth for barrel harmonics. I’ve seen a few videos where you talk on overall length measurements, but nothing on making seating depth adjustments to shrink group size. If you already have made a video on it, if you could point me to the title of the video, I’d be greatly appreciative. Thanks for all your great videos. I’m a new subscriber, and have been binging all of them!

[@StephenFirment]

Great information as usual. Was running low on primers and used magnum in the .270. Turned out to be a great find

[@markmcenturff8417]

Great shooting video. Thanks

[@clivedwyer2155]

Thank you this is a very helpful video

[@shane7969]

very cool video!

[@Buckeyesully]

Awesome drone footage!

[@bobbyscott8024]

I had a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in 280 caliber when they first came out. I reloaded 55 grains of IMR 4350 powder, Rem. large rifle primers and 120 gr. Nosler PSPBT bullets. I got 1/2'' groups with this load but only after the action was glassed and the barrel was free floated! Those rifles had thin barrels! This was a great WT Deer load however! Great video!

[@Odysseuss.]

I wasn't expecting that level of recoil!! Surprised GB ain't got a chamber blow through mirage dissipator widgit lined up! Joking aside, it's great to see how a senior [I am one] gets to grips with drone technology and links it into his video presentation. Hat doffed to you sir!

[@jeffshay3415]

Great video. I have owned 4 270s, still have 3 of them. (My son-in-law has the other, ) I switched to IMR 4350 quietly about 2 decades ago as using anything but 4831 is considered blasphemy in my circle and I never looked back. All have performed superbly. When II can't decide which one to take to the woods, I find myself reaching for my 30.06. Keep up the good work and God Bless!

[@anonymousf8406]

Would love to hear you do a video on Remington pump rifles from model 14, 141, 760, 7600, ect. I know it is a favorite of the Benoits, the famous deer tracking outfit up in the northeast big woods.

[@tonybarnes5309]

Thanks, Mr. Gun Blue, I have been waiting for this video in this Series. Correct me if I am wrong. # 3 charge weight looks like a flat spot that last shot was heat wave distortion. And the last charge weight looks really promising. I also am waiting for the weather to break to run the magnetospeed test. 2 days ago, we had snow here

[@baitammo4652]

Great video, as they all are! Your older model 70 feather weight 22-250 video keeps haunting my mind! Ha ha! I have to save up for one. God bless!

[@7come11two]

Out here in Southern Oklahoma, the cold is not usually a problem. What shuts us down is the heat. In the summertime, I'm soaked with sweat and off the range by 9:00 A.M. You'll cook out there in mid-day. I began reloading when I was 17 years old. The first CCI primers I bought cost $8.90 a thousand. I wasn't ordering them then, but there was no has mat charge.

[@charlesmullins3238]

Love those Jim zubiana glasses…I finally broke over and jumped in the 6.5 craze with the prc…pushin 140 bergers and tipped gamekings 3070fps from 24” carbon Springfield waypoint…put 1 on a jug at 200yrds and wow what a hammer..bout to start work on my old 700 7mm and bring it upto snuff….always good to see you enjoying a beautiful day at the range…mines in my front yard..lol. 100,200, and 520yrd targets…thanks brother…matt

[@2pugman]

At 81, I can't / won't shoot any round over 40 grains. Just got my replacement Pacemaker three days ago, so I'm down for at least two weeks. Love your drone ! Great video.

[@Simon-talks]

Prayers for a speedy recovery

[@paulsimmons5726]

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, God Bless!

[@paulscountry456]

270 is ferocious, long high bc bullets and maximum pressure means good things for long range hunting.

[@MarkHansen1990]

Welcome to summer😊 nice change.

[@kmackiss]

Thank for all your video's , but most of all , you show the proper way to carry a 1911 .

[@johnmcveigh6133]

Excellent video & shooting! Video on 1-shot case prep/reloading?

[@davidhenzler4817]

Enjoyed your presentation. Bought a SAKO Finnbear 270 on a whim, and was pleased with my first load. 140g Spire Point Hornady over 53g of 4831 surplus powder. The same load used in .280 and 30-06 with 160g and 155g respectively. I got a cold barrel shot and 4 more went into one hole an inch away. Good results. I'm using Winchester Stainless primers bought back in the mid 70's. I later was the lucky winner of a NRA Rifle of the Year, a 270 Weatherby with a Leupold Scope... a huge value... and a beautiful custom looking stock. Haven't fired it, may not.

[@jojomojo9439]

Can you do a timney trigger replacement video for a remington 700? Thank you for all your efforts..this is a wealth of knowledge!

[@carterthiessen2664]

Very interesting, I switched to from cci 200s to cci 250s (non magnum to magnum) primers in my 270 load. The accuracy didn't change much but my standard deviation became much tighter. I'm currently using 145gr hornadly ELDX bullets and RL19 powder. From a 24 inch barreled remington 700 im getting right around 3000 fps which is pretty potent for a bullet of that weight in 270. After that success I switched all my 30-06 loads over to magnum primers as well and also saw the standard deviations drop. I'll be using cci 250s in my 30-06 sized cases from now on

[@EthanMcKee.]

I hope everything is going well Mr.Gunblue. I'd say you are probably catching up on garden work and stuff like that. God bless

[@writerharrison]

Thanks for the video Blue! I find that IMR4350 with 52.5 gr. reg primers on a 130 grain interlock or 51.5 grain with magnum 250 primers hit 1/2 moa for my sako M995..nice model 70...great hunting rig!

[@MrRufusjax]

I think you found some good loads GunBlue490. Also, nice to meet your brother. I have two brothers and I don't know what I would do without them.

[@ledsled01]

I wish there were more like buttons on this one. I thoroughly enjoyed this, Thank You

[@powercourageandwisdom]

Thank you very much for the video. You're a wealth of wisdom and knowledge. ** Can you let us know what drone you use? I'm sorry but my wife wanted me to ask.

[@Oldhogleg]

4350 has been one of my favorite powders for decades. Never had much luck with 4831

[@russellapplegate5661]

4350 too fast for 270 IMHO. 4831, RL22 burn rate is perfect.

[@Oldhogleg]

@@russellapplegate5661 I forgot to mention, I use moly coated bullets, so the faster burn rate isn't a problem for me. That and my SAUER 202 hammered forged barrel is silky smooth, just like it's action.

[@GunBlue490]

@@Oldhogleg Cold hammer forged barrels such as your Sauer and any of the modern Winchester and Brownings made by FN have super smooth bores that stay extremely clean and are very, very accurate. They are known for accomplishing better smoothness than most expensive, custom hand lapped target barrels. That smoothness also reduces bullet resistance, and thus, pressure for equivalent loads used in cut barrels. I've observed, with each of my three Model 70s that they are "slow" barrels. That is, that lessened resistance gives me slower velocities than my previous rifles of the same caliber. By the same token, they often will provide the same velocities with higher than standard charges at safe pressures, which of course must be approached with due care, as with any loads. This .270, with the same loads used with the same jug of powder as three previous family Sako rifles of the same barrel lengths, runs significantly slower, but with very mild, pressure indications. I have discovered standard velocity charges for my other two Model 70s, and will be doing more testing with this rifle to determine where and if standard velocities are safely achieved. On the basis of the other two, I fully suspect it will do the same. This is only my own personal observation with a small group of individual rifles, and I cannot make any scientific conclusions or statements regarding the veracity of my non laboratory observations. Always proceed with caution.

[@cbsbass4142]

@@russellapplegate5661 To me it depends on Barrel length...that is, to get the most out of a slow powder, especially with a heavier bullet, I would love a 270 in a rifle like that sporter, but not in a featherweight with only a 22 inch barrel.

[@garyh1449]

I love IMR 4350 in the 30-06. I use RL-22 in the 6.5x55 Swede. They work well for me. Nice shooting, by the way.

[@petehendry4756]

Nice shooting sir .

[@lohikarhu734]

that little tripod back there looks just like my Leitz Ball Head tripod base...

[@russellzimmerman6342]

Love your videos

[@scottwilson1258]

55 it IS ! Good Stuff. The Best Info you could find H4831 and H4350 are kind of a Staple for Me. Thank You I also understand different conditions and Rifles but I have always seemed to have good luck with these Powders Too! I probably picked that up from You Sir come to think about it!

[@garyhopkinssr8561]

Thanks for taking the time to teach us guy I appreciate it. Is 204 ruger good for ground squirrels to 150 to 200 yards.

[@t44e6]

Love the old Pontiac!

[@SavageMcBeastdog]

Great video. It would be really interesting to see a comparison between your best load there with turned and unturned necks. I wonder what the variation would be. I love my Model 70.

[@bobjamieson7906]

See my reply above, explaining "neck turning" as done for custom built Benchrest rifles. I just don't see how it could do much in a standard chamber. I can see where it could even cause loaded cartridges with inadquite neck tension to hold the bullet. Good choise buying that Model 70. Its one of the best! Forget the "neck turning" but DO go to "neck resizing" ONLY, which keeps all reloaded ammo fitting the large part of the chamber. Of course, you have to keep that brass seperated for only that one rifle.

[@jacksonwholeexperience409]

Thanks for all you do and glad you survived the winter and still kickin'! What type of chronograph do you use? I'm thinking about getting one but can't decide between the Caldwell and ProChrono DLX. Bluetooth is a must these days it seems. God Bless! -Scott

[@HypocriticYT]

I find it can depend on the target design and color whether you get a tighter grouping

[@dawwlo]

Hi Wayne, love your videos👌As a hunting tool in 7mm-08 would you recommend featherweight or standard (super grade) m70? Besides the obvious fit n' finish on higher end models, is there any real advantage in medium calibers?

[@disturbedmaynard3873]

Nice showing of the accurate loads. 2 weeks ago, we had over 2 feet of snow in our area. Last week we had low 80's, and it all melted, and Sunday, we got another 7 inches of wet sticky white junk. And today, that is almost gone. Weather is a funny thing

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Got into the 270win at the start of the big "C" event. Then 270win ammo and components were cheap and plentiful. Anyway mine is a lefty Ruger Hawkeye and one is made up on a Remington 700. Going out after Bear as it's open but there's still plenty of snow out there even in the yard.

[@russwoods7899]

That's a really nice rifle you have. I have to get my old Remington 700 chambered in .257 Roberts out and do some shooting. The shells are insane expensive here in Canada and you have to order them in from Cabelas. Not carried on the shelves. May have to get into reloading if I plan on doing some shooting with it.

[@gusloader123]

Yep. Reloading your own ammo is a great idea.

[@thebethlehem2852]

Please make a video on .223/220 swift/22 hornet/204 comparison.. Thankyou GunBlue for your infinite wealth of knowledge

[@singleshot2218]

Turned out very nice! I like your hat! Moxie is one of my favorites! Take care and stay safe! God bless!✝️🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Sparky-ee2fr]

Great video, Can you tell us what model and power your Leupold is on that rifle?

[@paulsimmons5726]

I hope any new shooters were paying attention to the way Mr GunBlue was pressing his trigger. So slowly, as to remove himself from causing any unwanted movement in the rifle. Yes Sir, this was a master class for trigger finger discipline! And it’s the little things, like perfect trigger work, that make the final gains in accuracy… Wow, great video, thanks for posting!

[@jerryw6699]

you press buttons, you pull triggers.

[@dalegerbec7301]

Great video, we’ve all been waiting to see the final results. What make and model drone are you using?

[@GunBlue490]

It's a DJI Mavic Air II.

[@lockednloaded7830]

I laughed when I saw you switching glasses to read. I have to do the same thing. I have a pair of safety glasses with bifocals but I am forever for getting them forgetting them

[@davewinter2688]

GB, Another fine video. In one of your previous videos shooting the Winchester Model 70 in 270 Winchester, I thought the rifle you were shooting was one of the push feed versions. Am I wrong or is the one in this video a new or different rifle? I started hand loading for my Ruger 77R 270 Winchester in the early 1970's. I settled on 56 grains of H4831 behind a Hornady 150 grain spritzer which was the middle range load out of my old Speer #9 manual. It was supposed to be 2768 fps out of a 22" barrel. The top load listed was 58 grains for 2857 fps. I've never had access to a chronograph so I have no idea what kind of velocities I was getting but that load always produced groups under one inch at 100 yards off sand bags on the front of my jeep. I'd sight in about 3 inches high at 100 yards which gives a maximum effective point blank range of something over 300 yards if I remember correctly. The 150 grain loads don't shoot quite as flat as the 130's but they kill deer grave yard dead at anywhere from 50 to 300 yards with virtually no meat damage on shoulder shots. No loss at all on forward heart/lung shots. In 45 years or so of using this load I only had one that took more than one shot when I didn't get a good steady hold for the first shot. I'm not able to hunt much anymore because of some age and health problems, but I keep hoping things will get better with new knees and some work on my back. With that in mind I recently bought both IMR4350 and H4350 which I have never used before along with a new pound of H4831. I've read that the current lot of H4831 is a little faster than the older stuff I had on hand which was still packaged in a cardboard container with metal top and bottom. The new is all plastic bottles. I guess I'll need to start over to develop a safe and accurate maximum load. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊

[@jimpalmer4916]

My old mooser is a 98 conversion in 270 with a 24 in # 2 contour barrel. This old gun don't like nothing but 150 grain Remington roundness. I've tried everything in the book and simply gave up on this old warhorse. This old gun still shoots a 2 inch group at 100 yards. I just like it's looks, and it's proudly displayed on our living rooms niche that I thoroughly enjoy simply staring at, much to my wife's chagrin. Semper Fi.

[@wilmamcdermott3065]

I have that very same rifle new 4 years ago deadly accurat i run 4350 imr .

[@ShrewdBone]

You help a lot sir. This video has not much to do with what I shoot (I don't reload or have any bolt actions), but I thought when listening about the mirage effect: "Hey, having that tall front sight post in my AR-15 probably helps to negate some of thay mirage effect". Also, did you hear that Finland and Sweden ordered hundreds of thousands of AR-rifles from Sako? Bet those things are some quality battle rifles.

[@GunBlue490]

You are correct. The standard front post of an AR rifle, in combination with other design features of the handguard and flash suppressor, does provide worthwhile ventilation and dispersion that is so necessary for combat rifle accuracy.

[@cbsbass4142]

IMR 4350 Works really well in my .25-06. That .270 is really nice. I sure wish they still made the Sporter.

[@LL-fi4rr]

GunBlue490 would you be willing to do a video on 22LR barrel contour for accuracy? I see some people say you need a heavy barrel for added stiffness, others say it doesn't really matter for 22LR.

[@lohikarhu734]

"Poked a squirrel in the eye"... Hmmm 130 gr .270 @ about 2900 fps... the squirrel would just about *evaporate* ! But, great shot!

[@ranchodeluxe1]

Now you are talking a South Dakotan's rifle. My gun, my caliber. Love my pre 64, but I just can't bring myself to put a scope on it. That Leupold 2.5by8 is right on the money out here, though.

[@tommcqueen3145]

First time I've seen someone on a KZbin video measure there shots correctly 🙂