Testing EVERY KATANA for your satisfaction (Elden Ring)

[@asterodon]

Meteoric Ore Blade supremacy🗿

[@kole3292]

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[@siruseless6650]

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[@squiggles9612]

Ichimonji double my beloved

[@spookytown7963]

Yessir 🗿

[@josecampos19]

i do support this but I prefer dragon scale blade

[@BlaZay]

The fact that the Serpentbone Blade doesn't have a changeable AoW or comes naturally with Poison Moth Flight is one of the greatest injustices in this game. We were on the verge of greatness... We were this close...

[@kleut69]

Or if Hand of Malenia had rot build up instead of bleed for some reason, her boss fight had none

[@BlaZay]

@@kleut69 To be fair, she doesn't rot you with her katana either. The only instance where she does is phase 2 Waterfowl (but in no world do you get rotted by it AND survive the attack itself), the rest is either the Aeonia or the rot blasts at the end of her combos. Even her grab doesn't rot, despite the similarities with the Cleanrot Knights' (and their rapier doesn't get rot either). Definitely would've been cool if it did tho.

[@arashiX7]

Dragon scale and serpentbone blade both were done dirty by fromsoftware :(

[@ryang3225]

They fucked up a ton of weaponry ash of wars if we’re being serious. There’s so many examples where they missed the mark. Every weapon that takes somber smithing stones should have a unique ash of war. No reason for weapons like the dragon greatclaw to be stuck with an ash of war like endure. Truly don’t understand what they were thinking when it comes to the armaments sometimes.

[@arashiX7]

@@ryang3225 completely agree with everything you said, they truly dropped the ball there.

[@violentvocals5189]

1. 0:25 - Uchigatana 2. 2:05 - Nagakiba 3. 3:56 - Serpentbone Blade 4. 5:47 - Dragonscale Blade 5. 8:01 - Hand of Malenia 6. 10:15 - Meteoric Ore Blade 7. 11:47 - Moonveil 8. 13:55 - Rivers of Blood 9. 14:27 - Wakizashi Special

[@athos401]

I used Nagakiba for like 60% of my first playthrough and it's just amazing. Basically a huge katana but with extra thrusts. Perfection

[@marimason2939]

Get two

[@jacobroberts450]

Same! I just added the keen affinity for better dex scaling and am still using unsheathe lol

[@randymarshislorde]

My first char (I avoided all content about Elden ring until I got it for myself so I didn't have any spoilers, so my first char was played blind) he is still below lvl 100 but has almost 410 hours on him AND YET I still havent found the Nagekiba. I want one SOOO bad to go with this theme I came up with for my char, plus it reminds me of Sephiroth.

[@waker_link]

​@@randymarshislorde I mean, it's a quest reward/npc drop, so it makes sense how one couldn't find it for so long, since anything npc-related is always a confusing hassle in souls games (I'm just gonna say that Yura has it)

[@VSN-wb2ly]

too long for my fashion style but i agree it's op and a better uchigatana version

[@m.s6832]

I wish the dragonscale blade was a lot cooler for what it was since its literally is a sharpened gravel stone

[@MegaXron211]

I forget how, but it was a bit different in the network test.

[@TubularBellsRequiem6531]

​@@MegaXron211 I believe it had flat frost buildup in the network test, can't believe they got rid of it

[@MegaXron211]

@@TubularBellsRequiem6531 It probably because it was really strong in the test, my disappoint upon finding it in the game game was high

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@m.s6832]

@@xler3441 Hush your face preacher. I'm an atheist

[@TFGRhinehart]

Imagine reinstalling the game after about a month and finding monk in duels. Good games, dood!

[@wendigotoes]

Seeing you wear the white mask felt like a betrayal

[@stanley1527]

Hopefully you had some fun😊

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@smoothieevaporator]

@@xler3441🙃🙃🙃

[@wendigotoes]

It’s not easy being the best katana in the game, but Dragonscale Blade bares the burden like a true champion.

[@ajja2387]

Rivers of Blood*

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

@@ajja2387 GUGS*

[@ryang3225]

I’m saying

[@ajja2387]

@@oneofthekindscarf8612 bro we're talking about katanas lmaoo

[@krishivshukla5557]

​@@ajja2387technically, Guts sword is about as light as a katana for his strength and body, with the way he swings it and how fast he swings it

[@UhhhNobi]

As much as the moon veil is hated for being OP, it’s so satisfying landing the AOW and posture breaking with it

[@dusttodust915]

yea, but trying to use it like a regular blade sucks though the hitboxes for katanas are shit in invasions.

[@VSN-wb2ly]

it's alright now

[@rossi6823]

why do you have to use something thats not fun and enjoyable? @@dusttodust915

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@DaedaeChavez]

​@@dusttodust915It's a katana not a colossal sword

[@raccoon_gooch]

I remember when the game first dropped and the Moonveil was the undeniable number-one weapon and then they nerfed it SO hard. The pipeline from Moonveil to rivers of blood is so real tho.

[@ayvahnladdie]

Moonveil when it launched did like 1800 a hit, now it does way less. I think people just still hate the weapon for everything it did. If only Dragonscale blade was that good.

[@Snoodle829]

Idk man, it's still annoying as fuck, any weapon that encourages you to do nothing but spam the AOW is trash.

[@ssjkaryuusennin]

@@Snoodle829 Nah Moonveil is great. It's not as overpowered but tbh I'm just talking about boss fights since I don't play pvp

[@akame360nosmoke6]

Sword of light and flame😢

[@SpaceElvisInc]

@@ssjkaryuusennin didn't seem that much op in the vid vs the other katanas honestly

[@thetalonking7233]

The Meteoric Ore's heavy attack is 1:1 the Ichimonji from Sekiro, I'm so damn glad it made it in the game. That Gravitas into Ichimoji was absolutely disgusting and I love it.

[@noii1524]

Ichimonji is not from sekiro tho, that's an irl thing

[@noii1524]

@@magnolia549 so knowing a thing or two about Japan makes you a weeb nowadays, huh?

[@christianarizmendi8745]

​@@noii1524always has, what are you ln about?

[@ssjkaryuusennin]

@@noii1524 The Niten Ichi ryu he used in the video also is from real life but nobody asked

[@QPoily]

@@noii1524 OK but the context here is that the attack was in Sekiro, a FromSoft game, and that the very same attack is also in Elden Ring, another FromSoft game. If they had said "The Meteoric Ore's heavy attack is 1:1 the Ichimonji from Japan (...)" it wouldn't have made any sense since they're talking about having played Sekiro and happy that ER has adopted the exact move from Sekiro. Most people also wouldn't know why they felt the need to specify it's from Japan or anything since it has no relevancy to the video.

[@misterspoo7068]

ice lightning slash doesnt seem to have hyper armor on it so the best way i can think to use it is make some space then use it and either A. they run into the one of the hits on it in the hopes of getting a cheeky hit in while your in the animation or B. they respect the weird timing on it and you get the buff for free and continue your katana game plan

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@Jan-ie6lc]

The shorter poison time on the Serpentbone blade is actually really useful since you can proc it more often, meaning that your kindred of rots exultation can benefit you more

[@maskedmisfit364]

I just started Elden Ring and I am using the Reduvia with the Uchigatana and I love it so far! Your video is spot on, cannot wait to try all the katanas!

[@altaafsheik5725]

My uchigatana is ridiculously overpowered right now I'm almost done maxing it

[@billsToonley]

@@altaafsheik5725 uchigatana was my baby

[@borjacondebecerra9553]

I use Uchigatana as my main weapon. I have Nagakiba as my left hand weapon, but I took some time finding It, so my Uchigatana is better atm. I also have Moon Veil already, but I am missing Int to use it, and need to upgrade It a lot for It to be at the level of either my Uchi or my Naga xD

[@sutarn_gamer4159]

meteoric ore blade has the ichimoji as the heavy, finally the perfect katana

[@scottwilly86]

i miss the black blade katana overhead slash from ds3

[@asterodon]

Space katana supremacy🗿

[@sutarn_gamer4159]

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[@Arani.]

I need the mortal blade

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@thecommentguy9380]

Waterfowl dance is strong... until you find an opponent who experienced the true waterfowl dance enough to just shit on the dollar store version

[@nebei3740]

Its a get off my ass aow without hyperarmor there 3 switchable aows that do the same but better stormcaller the scream double stomp and the gravity triple wave all of these have 1 shot potential and are borderline broken with massive amounts of hyperarmor

[@belliebun4529]

I kinda miss when the Uchigatana was able to parry with the L1 version of unsheathe.

[@AntediluvianGirl]

Yeah, I really wish ER Unsheathe would've had three button inputs, L2 + R1 for the forward slash, L2 + R2 for the downward arc slash and L2 + L1 for the parry

[@bynosaurus4024]

@@TubularBellsRequiem6531could you not just use your index and middle finger to hit it?

[@xler3441]

Jesus loves you so much and He is waiting for you with open arms, please accept Him in your heart and life while He is near

[@rugermalone2187]

@@xler3441stfu jesus isnt even real 😂

[@CloudLicht]

​@@xler3441 Are you insane?

[@OliverDudley-xy5vm]

I hope the dlc gives us some better flails

[@Gyno-Mackima]

We’re in desperate need

[@ryang3225]

And whips.

[@apexfenix9623]

The chain and sickle

[@dreamingdragon6913]

I kinda want a Faith version of Moonveil. One that shoots gold beams instead of blue.

[@argonianguy6226]

​@@dreamingdragon6913preferably with strength scaling instead of Dex. Since we don't have many strength katanas, especially fth ones

[@MadnessToTheMeaning]

In my first playthrough I enjoyed the Nagakiba and Uchigatana so much. I dual wielded it for most my playthrough. It did share the same issue with the Wakizashi "technically" as the Uchi is shorter than Nagakiba. But when I finally beat Malenia and got her sword, I dual wielded it with my Unsheathe AOW Nagakiba and BOY was it a strong. Dual wielding 2 longboy Katanas was such a treat.

[@findot777]

I wish the wakizashi had a unique dual wield move set with katanas

[@chandler1473]

I just wish it had the dagger move set. Waki parry, L1 waki slice, uchi reposte. Too much to ask?

[@likehowdudehelp]

@@chandler1473 well i mean at that point just use a different dagger

[@chandler1473]

@@likehowdudehelp aesthetics bro. I wanna style on my victims.

[@seyanhimiko8228]

Me to

[@thatsjustlife3831]

What if it had the ds3 jump attack of the black hand weapon

[@nevskvaelor1864]

Just a reminder, moonviel got nerfed a long time ago. It used to be more terrifying lol

[@everythingpony]

Just a reminder it got buffed a long time ago

[@EchoObserver9]

Moonveil is my guilty pleasure in this game. It is just cool man. One of the best and most fun Int weapons.

[@asterodon]

MOB is underrated and is a badass str/int weapon, I definitely prefer it over Moonveil but I can understand the appeal, especially for a Vergil cosplay

[@DiademAce]

@@asterodonwhen I saw the light beams all I thought was the Yamato😂

[@Suc-Chii]

Yeah for real, while rocking an Blue Silver mail, that shit looks dope

[@Snoodle829]

Just only use it in PvE and we chillin

[@Suc-Chii]

@@Snoodle829 i think moonveil is nerfed now

[@angrysunshinebandit5114]

With the serpent bone blade, if you pair it with another weapon, cant remember the name, you can give the deadly poison the same duration as normal poison, using this paired with a rot buildup weapon as your secondary pair and you can just melt everything with status ticks

[@R9V3N]

Love how most of the player base of this game was pissy about the Moonveil when it was just a regular weapon easy to dodge and counter

[@Soluscide]

It was annoying because people would just spam tf out of the AOW.

[@yeetlord9000]

Rivers of blood is so op he purposely didn't use the ash of war

[@GhostProdigy]

Serpent Bone Katana is incredibly good on a dedicated build 👌🏽

[@El_Diego86]

Wam!!

[@GhostProdigy]

@@El_Diego86 bam thank yoy mam!

[@lharsay]

GGs for the success! This might be one of the most watched ER PvP videos in 2023, it reminds me of Prod's old DS3 content.

[@Nelekroce]

Reinhart getting hit with waterfowl be like "DAMN IT I THOUGHT I WAS DONE DEALING WITH THIS BS!!"

[@michaelbowman6684]

Uchigatana will always be my favorite, most consistent and versatile Katana in every Souls game. It has some very stiff competition in Elden Ring, but I still prefer it for it's low requirements on an Arcane build with Bloody Slash. Starting as a Bandit and eventually getting the Uchi (in some tomb in Limgrave, the name eludes me) is very satisfying.

[@kacperkozak907]

I can't wait for whip and bow video. My favourite weapon types. BTW grate video. ^^

[@karolgentili997]

That's historically correct dual wielding.

[@sixstringsam5885]

personally i like them all. rivers of blood was my favorite but moon veil is just a beautiful looking weapon with a satisfying aow. but nothing beats the original and the power stance makes this so much better

[@syn010110]

despite being a "dagger" the wakizashi should really be counted in with this weapon class because it only powerstances with main-hand katana (even though it has a dagger moveset and motion values--except when powerstanced, where it gains a hidden bonus to mostly match the standard uchi in damage). not sure why fromsoft labeled it a dagger.

[@ルリ-ruri]

Probably because wakizashi irl treated like a dagger. Power stance with katana is reference to musashi

[@lammyjammy]

I would be okay with moonveil if it weren't for 1 simple thing- it's a bleed weapon. It deals 50 bleed buildup per hit, while also having Transient Moonlight which makes it capable of dealing tons of raw damage. Compare that to the Serpentbone Blade or the Dragonscale Blade, which do not have the bleed effect. Why does the Moonviel get such preferential treatment? It also shares the slightly higher 50 bleed per hit that it shares with the Meteoric Ore Blade, compared to the 45 bleed per hit that the regular katanas (Naga and Uchi) get. Moonveil would be bad enough if it just had the raw damage output and that's it. Maybe the bleed effect barely matters because most targets will die from the damage before the bleed will matter, but you know, they might as well remove the bleed effect just to bring it more in line with the other special Katanas. Meteoric Ore Blade deserves to have Bleed because it is not as powerful. And I think you could argue that the Serpentbone Blade or the Dragonscale Blade could have bleed without being OP (but I also think that they probably don't need it).

[@fynnhelliwell435]

Wakizashi parry can be pretty tough

[@goh-ki]

Waterfowl dance is very situational. For example, it could be used as a counter to perfectly spaced swing.

[@Brown95P]

Honestly, it's an absolute crime that neither the Serpentbone nor the Meteoric Ore can be infusable with more interesting skills, especially when both weapons' R2s are essentially Sekiro's Ashina Cross and Ichimonji respectively. Like they'd still be hard-pressed to beat Nagakiba anyway cuz "haha sephiroth shaft", but man l'd so kill to have the Meteoric Ore's R2 with Unsheathe.

[@Automaton_Sleeper_Agent]

My favorite katana is the serpent bone blade, I just wish it's ash of war was poison moth flight and it did 80 poison or just scales with arcane

[@joe_mp7424]

mine too, i would be perfect if it had a unique poision ash of war or you could at least change it

[@Automaton_Sleeper_Agent]

@joe_mp7424 they should've either copied rivers, made it rivers of poison or used poison mothflight, and please buff poison mothflight lol

[@bennypatrick6535]

Mine is Rivers of Blood. You could make a Jetstream Sam build with that weapon!

[@durpanda123]

I love how literally any of the Katanas could be 'the best hands down' depending on who you ask. I've seen people class Rivers of Blood, Moonveil, Meteoric Ore Blade and the Nagakiba all as the best Katana, hell I'm sure a lot of people might think one of the other ones is tbe best.

[@monkwashere]

After this last update katanas have gotten way deadlier too lmao

[@qualiswilliams7403]

I think serpent is the best I feel it's animations are a lil smoother the other katanas seem kind of clunky 🤷🏽‍♂️ it's probably my imagination but eh

[@garrick3727]

My favorite katana is Dragonscale Blade. I just like the frost lightning. However, I use the Nagakiba more because I like the thrust attack, and the reach of course.

[@Samm-ii8sy]

Wakizashi is actually a tanto which is in fact a samurai’s dagger so technically it is not a katana it is truly a dagger

[@Zeus-gf3vh]

Moonveil is honestly very easy to dodge. Bloodloss Nagakiba with double slash is like ROB without the downsides. Roll catch with more poise damage, afinity buildup and the range is insane.

[@loothhussainfazeel855]

They should've kept the unsheathe parry, it felt so nice to use

[@Artrysa]

0:26 Mmmhm, damn right. Can't go wrong with the Uchi.

[@Zerruno]

You beat those players without even using the Corpse Piler

[@sk3w_]

The amount of weapons there are in this game is what make it so good

[@Halfhaphazard]

“Babe wake up, a new monk video has dropped”

[@jxff2000]

“the hand of malenia…” the entire elden ring community: *vietnam flashbacks*

[@apokist]

RoB is still pretty broken with the right build - rotten winged sword insignia, shard of alexander, Lord of blood's exultation and white mask

[@TheLastDragonborn1245]

Too bad that Malenia’s weapon doesn’t give you HER Waterfowl Dance.

[@miguelromero1163]

Free aiming waterfowl is so fun, so Hand of Malenia is my favourite one

[@eligryba1041]

fantastic videos man, subscribed, love the elden ring content! I do have one suggestion though! you should invest in a better microphone, would be well worth it! :) Great video!

[@drustx7614]

I honestly understand why Moonveil spam would suck in PvP but as a solely PvE player, i loved using Moonveil in my first playthrough of Elden Ring

[@thegoat3153]

same.

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

I usually go DEX Faith on my first playthrough of a new souls game but I decided to switch it up and go wild with an unknown stat like arcane. I am probably one of the first users of ROB and I apologize for my transgressions.

[@FantasticTaze-yt]

At this point, get nagakiba, use double slash, enchant with blood flame blade. Unnerfed RoB.

[@stevencook9884]

You can make some really cool builds with the dragon scale katana it's my favorite purely just for how badass it looks.

[@ayvahnladdie]

Dragonscale blade needs some love.

[@Silly_Illidan]

That rhinehard guy got obliterated anime style

[@alpine_chr]

I have a question: at 16:14, you have wakizashi with Parry in the left hand, Rivers with Corpse plier in the right hand. Why is the ash when dual wielding Parry, and not Corpse piler? I thought the right hand weapon dictates the Ash when dual wielding?

[@ZeroHero3d]

While you were studying the Golden Order, I was studying the Moonveil. While you were out there getting Maidens and becoming Elden Lord, I was practicing the Nagakiba. *invades behind you* "Nothing personel, Tarnished"

[@juliankoch4787]

My favorite katana is the hand of Malenia. But the fight for this weapon is really hart.

[@ghostofalgeria]

Fun fact the heavy attack of the meteoric katana is an attack called ishimonji from sekiro shadows die twice

[@khirasier]

honestly moonveil and rivers of blood arent even that OP, there are many builds you can do that are way way stronger, dual occult scavengers for example, you just need to connect 1 attack and you will instantly bleed for so much damage you will 1 shot people, wing of astel aswell, also nutty as hell, i think people just think they are op cause they are kinda just plug and play you dont have to think about how to synergise the build, also alot of people complain cause katanas are good at roll catching but honestly whips are way better at it but people just dont use them. probably cause they are still in the mind set of old souls games where they were trash but they are actually quite good in ER another note in the very first patch of the game rivers of blood scaling didnt actually work

[@drunkfarmer5106]

More of a straight sword guy. Longswords are GOATed.

[@damianoq2637]

bro definetly deserves my sub and a like

[@ravenrxh5865]

its gotta be dual bloody uchi's for me it adds build bleed up so fast with power stance its pretty strong against some bosses

[@mhmpotatoes5373]

meteoric ore blade just feels, so crispy

[@ragiponsoy2289]

That wakizashi combo is really dangerous. Bcoz parry is insane with that dagger

[@stanley1527]

Uchigatana Best starting weapon plus you can get two if you start with Samurai

[@stanley1527]

Also fun fact double slash is basically corpse piler without the bloody swings

[@stanley1527]

Double fun fact Waterfowl can be parried

[@GokuBeatingKids]

I have a whip build named “get back to work”

[@grantsworldofwhatever7555]

They should make a katana where when you do the sheath move, when you sheath and slash it sends a wave of magma

[@thehomiejw6714]

I really can't believe people are still crying about rob and moonveil, those weapons are nothing but noob stompers. dual spears or dual bleed curved swords are so much more heinus imo

[@oysterlad]

Serpentbone not being infusible or buffable is a crime.

[@themain3524]

16:18 - 16:31 Is really an insane sequence.

[@karlreynolds814]

Whenever I’m in Modern warfare search and destroy and I use a melee people will kindly ask me to not use it, however if I have a katana it’s always “STOOOOP YOUR NOT A F*CKEN SAMURAI, PLAY THE GAME RIGHT” even when I’m on the top of the leaderboard

[@Diogenes68]

Fun fact: The Meteoric Ore Blade heavy is the Ichimonji slash from Sekiro.

[@Yes_Indeed-w7t]

I completely forgot that the washing pole was called the nagakiba in Elden ring so for a minute I was really confused that I missed a Katana after grabbing all the weapons.

[@Glostahdude]

Thanks for this fellow Sunbro!

[@RaximusPrime19]

I've gotta say, The Dragonscale katana and Rivers of Blood are my favorite

[@RemiPrince-fb1em]

Elden Ring follows Remi

[@monkyk1ng]

i did not realize the meteoric blade heavy attacks were just skills ripped straight out of sekiro. gonna have to use it in my main hand for a build now 😮‍💨

[@haggus71]

The meteoric blade is heavy, and will break poise like a greatsword.

[@arcanemagpie6833]

Meteoric Ore Blade is my favorite soley because it's great for farming Four-toed fowl foot

[@cosmalade]

16:20 nobody expects the Placidusax's Ruin in PvP

[@slayer92666]

Something very strange to me into this game is the big delay time hit response on sound and blood effects.

[@jesse6484]

All katana's can hit like trucks it's just that moon veil decided to upgrade it's engine before starting a race with the others

[@EmpressSectonia]

I used the Serpent bone blade on the left hand, and the Keen Nagakeba on the right with Bloodflame for Poison and Bleed. These combos are sick.

[@DogeHound88]

Musk n Zhuck should play PvP match here 🤣

[@w.jordan1736]

I really have never lost to a rivers of blood user

[@ssj11000manny]

Moonveil carried my playthrough as an int build its just so cracked lol

[@Asfragged]

2:45 See, this is how I can tell youre new to souls games, no one has ever called the Washing Pole (aka the nagakiba) honest.

[@MilkyaNdPuddlez]

Used Uchigatana with flaming strike and the Dragonscale blade for a while. The ice/lightning with fire was a good combo for a bit but once I specced heavily into arcane for dual reduvia's I haven't gone back lol

[@BIGAMBERFAN]

feels bad that they gutted rivers of blood, it was such a cool weapon and it really wasn't as overpowered as the scrub complainers said it was, but now it's just borderline unusable

[@JF-vz1ju]

I wish Rivers was like the Chikage of this game, doing damage to the user with every attack and AoW use. I just think those kinds of weapons are cool, but maybe it would have also stopped some of the bitching that let to the nerf.

[@marker7753]

I gotta go with Nagakiba because as a strength enjoyer I prefer quality scaling rather than keen, and I also wield it in honor of my favorite NPC Yura.

[@alexbrooks2306]

Rob is the only kitanna I was barely skilled enough to get

[@Arri9707]

There's a nice broken wall you can climb up on so if you have a nice ranged attack you can kill okina without getting any damage cuz he won't be able to reach you

[@V-a-s-h]

If only the rest of the weapons would have been as cool as katanas

[@loothhussainfazeel855]

I wish gravitas could be used defensively and offensively. Light attack after the ground thrust would pull and heavy would push

[@emperorpalpatine2957]

Whips are hated? Hm, never heard of that if anything whips are busted. Urumi and the Giant Remembrance one are incredible.

[@GebrilVoid]

NAGAKIBA just take a place in my heart

[@JustNexy_]

hand of malenia is slept on i dual wield them and its crazy

[@blackdragonstory1122]

Atm I am using spectral lance pike and sacred uchigatana. Tried using daggers which is kinda fun with reduvia. Basically most weapons that have a throwing projectile of some sort that can apply an effect are great imho. Might even boost up ijis needle that has frost projectiles. The only thing that sucks is that I havent found a fire weapon cuz I feel like fire would be quite strong against some of the enemies. Lightning sounds cool but in practice it isnt that cool. Kinda surprised none of the swords have some sort of shield formed as they attack,maybe a water sword could have a bubble around you while you attack or something. Also wanna say katanas are cool and moonveil although hated and op has also prob the coolest move with that unsheath stance and its kinda amazing you can use it without fp too. It does less damage but at least you did something vs your char just looking at the wepon like what's wrong buddy.