The Hardest Boss Ever Made - Elden Ring

#eldenring #fromsoftware #malenia
Difficulty is in the eyes of the beholder. For one, something is impossible, for another, it’s everyday business. For Elden Ring players, it’s a necessity, but for one boss it may have gone too far, welcome to a deep dive on Elden Rings Hardest Boss Ever Made, Malenia
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Intro: 00:00
Difficulty in FromsoftWare Games: 00:39
Malenia's Story: 02:44
Malenia's fight begins: 07:10
Malenia Goddess of Rot: 12:13
The Bugs Nerfs and Buffs: 17:53
Outro: 20:53
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Malenia, Blade of Miquella - Elden Ring
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[@Vukf1]

Fighting this boss i learned 2 things. Her name is Malenia. She is the blade of Miquella.

[@justafrogwithahat355]

3 things actually She also has never known defeat

[@nationdemon]

well we defeated her in the end, so, she now knows defeat.

[@RicknWRX]

That is all I have heard yet. Still haven't beat her! Doing playthrough 2 now and determined to be victorious

[@nationdemon]

@@RicknWRX you're going to succeed. Dont give up. And if you feel annoyed, there are several "tricks" to cheese her a little. Usually including slow stepping back and keep her on a distant as well as using ranged attacks or AOEs. You may figure it out on your own.

[@RicknWRX]

@@nationdemon that is a good idea! Thanks! Last playthrough was all strength. I could have respecced but decided to just start game over. I was running collosal swords. Though they make regular enemies easy, bosses that don't break poise I just hated how slow they were. I would hit attack and get pummeled while I wait for it to land. And because I was souls newb I had sold so many of the other weapons in the game not knowing they were good. Oops. This time I know better and sell nothing! Since that I have played all 3 dark souls through and am back to elden with that experience and knowledge.

[@jameswilliams3416]

Hearing Malenia’s “wait” for the first time was crazy

[@EvanExplains]

Best worst feeling ever

[@Holynoelle]

Props to anyone that didn't get spoiled about anything of the game, because Jesus Christ playing this at launch was a disaster, I already knew malenia would be 2 phases because I simply couldn't open anything (KZbin, etc) without getting spoiled in the ass. This game's launch was just chaos

[@MWanni7]

"The scarlet bloom flowers once more..."

[@XeroFailGames]

That wait was the equivalent of rocky saying I ain't hear no bell

[@Ale-dd3ek]

You Will witness true horror

[@tilenkobe]

I was struggling for 2-3 hours not realizing she has a second phase and first time seeing that transition cutscene really was a true horror.

[@noahfinni3296]

The first time I fought her I used the noble’s estoc as a joke. Third try I fought for 10 straight minutes to get her health down, went of cool the death cutscene, only to have my heart sink when a second health bar showed up, before immediately dying to scarlet aoenia

[@thepublicpotato3887]

funfact that was never even her final form we fortunatly killed her before she could reach it

[@Mitchpog]

bro for me I thought the second phase would show up when u got the first phase to half health. When i fully killed her in the first phase I thought the game glitched and I didn't get the second phase.

[@longlivechina7538]

Lmao

[@kurusuakira6891]

Guys lets face it: The hardest boss From Software ever made was gravity and the camera.

[@pocketmonsterhuntr]

Undefeated to this day

[@labidcremation]

The camera boss sure fucks me up multiple times

[@Beanibirb]

I will never understand why the camera is so shit in every FromSoft game

[@smelltheglove2038]

Stairs without railings. And enemies on those stairs. And a guy at the top with a Gatling gun. But yeah, gravity is a nightmare. That said, NG+ is like playing on easy mode. Also, I have never played online, and never used a summon.

[@michelebucci3629]

And elevators

[@Calembunial]

There's a theory that the reason why Malenia doesn't aggressively engage with you during her first phase, is not out of respect - it's because she's blind. She literally can't see, that is why she mostly relies on your movements to know when to attack. Thought it was pretty cool, though I like the "respect" theory also.

[@EvanExplains]

That is such a cool theory

[@Batman8356]

Damn imagine fighting her WITH eyes?!?!

[@rollzmoist5061]

@@Batman8356 i wonder if we'll meet a young Melania in her prime in the DLC... im not sure if that'll make me happy or make me throw myself off the erd tree... either way its an experience i guess XD

[@RysenKai]

More than likely that is the implied case. FromSoftware have always given us bosses outside of their prime. Artorias, Radahn, and of course Malenia. To make us think just how powerful they once were, and to be glad we didn't have to face them then. Also lmao Malenia canonically trashing Godrick and leaving him be because he seemed too pathetic to kill.

[@theyo9619]

@@rollzmoist5061 either way the goddess of rot would be stronger so it wouldn’t be any cooler

[@arcticbanana66]

"I am Malenia, blade of Miquella, and I have never known defeat." "I am the Tarnished of no reknown, and defeat is all I have ever known." This fight really is a case of "irresistable force versus immovable object".

[@LeHarmacist]

more like "I thrive in defeat" or "Defeat cannot stop me" and it's unstoppable force not irresistible, I mean Malenia is irresistible indeed but you used the wrong adjective for the quote. ☝🤓

[@MahouShoujoNobue]

@@LeHarmacist Both words are acceptable. Its official name is "Irresistible Force Paradox", and the words "irresistible" and "unstoppable" are used interchangeably in its description, though "unstoppable" is slightly more common in the US. (It's also known as the "Spear and Shield Paradox" after the 3rd-century Chinese parable of a merchant selling "a spear that can pierce any shield" and "a shield that can't be pierced by any spear" but couldn't answer when someone asked what would happen if he struck the shield with the spear, and the "Fox and Hound Paradox" after the Ancient Greek story of the Teumessian fox that could never be caught and the hound Lealaps who never fails to catch what it hunts (and rather than try to solve the paradox, Zeus just turned them both into constellations).)

[@LeHarmacist]

@@MahouShoujoNobue aight 👍

[@zeehero7280]

@@LeHarmacist I have always known defeat. that is why I will win. eventually.

[@youthfulspirit_]

@@zeehero7280 LOL... yes you will! I just finished my 6th play through because I kept trying different builds, and I've defeated her on other runs but ONLY with summons and some level of luck. In my last run, I FINALLY decided to REALLY learn her move set and managed to beat her solo (no gimmicks or summons). #keephopealive #nevergiveup 😂😂😂

[@chrissennfelder7249]

God, her art design is so amazing. I still can't get over it.

[@t2nexx561]

Her design and lore is peak

[@anduinwrynn1516]

To be fair it’s not

[@therealeyezic]

@@anduinwrynn1516to be fair? Fair to what? This area and Melenia are perfect

[@victorprati7908]

"To be fair" lol I mean you disagree aight but "to be fair" to what? @@anduinwrynn1516 😅

[@nikolaosboukouvalas449]

​@@therealeyezicI don't know... She seems like a generic Valkyrie to me and the flowery arena has been done three times already.

[@Shurmash]

Her voice actress was wonderful and haunting. "Oh dearest Michella, I've finally met..... my match." Goosebumps every time.

[@kill3rbyysight]

can't agree more

[@darkknight57691]

Everyone seems to forget this fact. There’s no dlc for ER yet. And From Software’s DLCs always have the hardest enemies. Manus and Artorius. Burnt Ivory King and Fume Knight. Sister Frieda and Gael. I can only imagine what monstrosities await us in the Elden Ring DLC.

[@artyomn5768]

Thats why i wait😈

[@NaK-R]

Godwyn, every attack with dearthblig 💀

[@sunpraiser3188]

Don't forget that the top 3 hardest bosses in bloodborne are from the dlc Laurence Ludwig And orphan

[@darkknight57691]

@@sunpraiser3188 exactly! And what did they add in the Sekiro “dlc”…. Inner Isshin and Inner Father

[@Bull625]

soldier of God, Rick

[@solidusraiden2502]

I read that malenia's eyes are gone because of rot. So, the reason why if you stand still she doesnt just aggressivly run at you is because she doesnt quite know where you are. look at the floor and notice its full of water, she attacks aggressivly when you move because she can hear where you are

[@T-revor_shorts]

Underrated comment

[@cenationofjnu]

That is a awesome theory.

[@partofthetribe3277]

Neat

[@cheetaro8657]

Does that mean the movement mute talisman would work?

[@MrJomalley123]

Its funny because her father Radagon has no eyes as well

[@blueodin0946]

Elden Ring: *has a boss that heals* Everyone: “We were not ready”

[@atif45602]

Literally the hunter from Bloodborne:

[@TheGamingStorage69420]

@@atif45602 there's no numbing mist this time xD

[@jacksonr260]

The guy screaming, "Chat, what is the solution? Tell me. How. HOW. HOWWWWWW!!!" may be the best part of this video. 🤣

[@tinyninja7716]

Ikr. Perfectly encapsulates the Melenia experience.

[@stephengrigg5988]

Like a gun was to his head

[@ReversedCentaur]

Bloodhound step lmao

[@Ronc137]

The fact that her introduction puts her so close to you, and she closes the gap with the first move you're not prepared for (if it's your first time facing her) is just a sample of the pain you endure. I will always put respect on the name after beating Milenia, Blade of Miquella

[@aytekineric8306]

So much respect you misspelled Malenoa, Blade of Miguel

[@DanielBrazRPM]

I think its Malonina

[@aytekineric8306]

@@DanielBrazRPM no man its melanin, edge of michelangelo how could u get it wrong

[@Ronc137]

@@aytekineric8306 Apparently my phone's autocorrect doesn't share the same respect 🤪

[@enman009]

Malona, Age of Miguelangelo.

[@calumspaughton5215]

Making her heal after every successful attack was really the icing on the cake, from soft we’re definitely kicking there feet and giggling making this boss

[@ivan_d_feets4495]

@@lrsb1678 yup. How I think of my boss fights anyways is I can do alright solo but as time goes on there’s a higher chance of me making a mistake. And her heal just rlly drags on the fight to unwinnable lengths for me but I finally got her lmao

[@andreasbeshkin8852]

Funniest part is the hardest from bosses are almost always in the dlc so malenia will probably not be the hardest boss when the dlc comes out, but it makes you wonder what kind of outlandish mechanics the dlc bosses will have

[@ivan_d_feets4495]

@@andreasbeshkin8852 oh god if that’s true I’m looking forward to dlc

[@jjnix95]

@@ivan_d_feets4495 Maybe Miquella will conjure a perfect Melania (not blind and all limbs in tact).

[@ivan_d_feets4495]

@@jjnix95 ….well that would be a nightmare….lmao…tho interesting to fight 😂

[@JasonMC-wc1jr]

I think people are mistaking something. From all we've seen, Malenia has bloomed in total only twice. Once against Radahn and the second one after we defeat her. The bloom outside her boss room is clearly from one of Milicents sisters as you find the clothes they wear when you interact with it ( plus we know this can happen cuz milicent can bloom after she dies). So that would infact mean that we haven't yet seen the actual godess of rot. Also, we know that she's supposed to lose her mind when she blooms for the third time, but she is clearly still very "sane" still having her consciousness and most importantly, her personality. I believe if this is true, then when we actually fight the true godess, it might be something more akin to the elden beast, or at the very least, Melania will lose all her sense of self to the rot

[@BigCocoEnergy]

Malenia’s Most Broken Ability is the ability to walk away from staggers. She’s the only enemy/boss in all of Elden Ring that can literally interrupt a stagger. Idk what Fromsoft was thinking with that one lmao

[@catholonelbridget1072]

She's just...better lmao

[@FrenziedmerchantisaHomo]

Your just not that good at the game if you think that is broken like git gud casual

[@SMEbeats]

average souls gamer comment@@FrenziedmerchantisaHomo

[@heatyeet6538]

​@@FrenziedmerchantisaHomomost likeable elden ring fan

[@ad-jb5yd]

@@FrenziedmerchantisaHomobraindead

[@adamw4712]

I think we all collectively said "we'll see about that" when malenia said " i never known defeat"

[@davissmith1073]

Absolutely… I said “Until Me…” then immediately got humbled 😂😂

[@ZhongliArchonofSwag]

“And I have known defeat 1000 fold, yet never have I remained fallen.”

[@memoryofsalem4474]

And then got curve stumped

[@Fission889]

​@@davissmith1073 I said the same thing. "...until NOW!" I won't share what happened afterwards

[@rotsen3123]

then malenia blitz in front of you without having time to react. next thing you know is your first defeat by her.

[@NeedsContent]

Elden Ring players: "Malenia is the hardest boss ever." Elden Ring DLC: "And I took that personally."

[@akaroth7542]

I hope so.

[@MrTigracho]

Usually the dlc puts bosses harder than the ones from the main game...so imagine a boss even harder than Malenia.

[@quack-tastictictac1630]

Miquella in the DLC probably: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@josephnissenson3252]

​@@quack-tastictictac1630 godwyn bout to ruin our weeks

[@nick_Kom]

@@MrTigracho i haven't played in over a year but that would absolutely make me install it again

[@kian5339]

The bloom outside the boss room is one of Millicent’s sisters, that’s why there’s a travelers set by it. Just like how there’s a bloom where Millicent dies if you kill her

[@victorprati7908]

That set could belong to anybody. Even Melina wears it.

[@thosebloodybadgers8499]

@@victorprati7908 A Scarlet Aeonia in the Haligtree of Miquella, brother to Malenia, with a questline in the game that implies Milicent was given the needle by Gowry in order to properly bloom into a goddess, due to Malenia not wishing to succumb to the influence of the Goddess of Rot while her brother tries healing them both, as opposed to rotting beforehand, hence her fight with her sisters? Could be anyone indeed...

[@victorprati7908]

Gowry wants Millicent to bloom into a VALKIRYE that will SERVE the Goddess of Rot and not becoming the Goddess herself. "When Malenia ascends to godhood, Millicent too shall be reborn. As a scarlet valkyrie." @@thosebloodybadgers8499

[@jimmymeridian5174]

16:30 That guy's face is pretty damn relatable. Doesn't even feel like victory, just feels like it's over finally.

[@zodiac3409]

@13:42 homeboy just instantly recognizing how fucked the situation is and laughing through the pain gotta be the realest shit i seen

[@rob6912]

Big Lac Lacari always delivers

[@dr.disappointment8400]

And then just a minute later just screaming at the chat to tell him how to win

[@jamesmoore4856]

@@dr.disappointment8400and when he beat it he looked dead asf he wasn’t smiling that’s for sure lol

[@PhantomBones101]

Having played most of the Soulsborne titles I've learned three things: humanoid enemies are significantly harder to kill, the only unpredictable enemies are other players, and if a boss slow walks towards you in any phase they mean business.

[@ravipathak4614]

Humanoid enemies are harder to kill Laughs in Laurence The first Vicar, Ludwig and General Radhan

[@lonelypancake5979]

@@ravipathak4614 I beat starscourge on my second try. I could hardly believe it and I needed a glass of wine afterwards to calm down

[@ravipathak4614]

@@lonelypancake5979 I still remembers my entire body was uncontrollably shaking when I finally beat Ludwig. Unfortunately my strict "No Alcohol" rule meant I had to resort to tea to calm myself

[@Zapdos97]

@@ravipathak4614 That was me with Orphan, still the hardest boss I've ever fought, phase 2 specifically.

[@ironclad4451]

@@ravipathak4614 ludwig was so friggin rough for me >_>

[@rickyt.9482]

Mimic tear +10 was my lord and savior during this fight.

[@mikenolan2194]

And ROB and uchi was the filthest cheese strat i have ever done in a souls game. I take great pride in it mainly because i realized how op it was before videos started going up about it.

[@KS-bo5bg]

Malenia's difficulty is because of her utter devotion to Miquella, and her sheer desperation. She has nothing to gain from defeat, and everything to lose. She's waiting for Miquellas return, and with that return she believes she'll be cured of the scarlet rot. Who knows, if Miquella had returned maybe she even would have regrown her lost limbs, and recovered her sight. Tragically we know that Moghs interference have left Miquella in a withered comatose state, and will not return. There's a lot of bosses that make you regret having to kill them, but none of them have made me feel so awful as Malenia. Rest in Power Malenia, you and your twin were too pure for The Lands Between.

[@30000beesinatrenchcoat]

Y'know I feel like it's kinda her fault for not stopping a minute to just talk to you. Although, I do understand her not wanting to take any chances.

[@JohnDoe-od6xk]

13:35 I don't think you guys realized how much pain this dude was in. He was tried so.hard get through phase 1 got so happy...then the CS happened he thought he finally it. That my friends is the laugh of helpless anguish and broken resolve. 😅

[@blackline6619]

You mean 13:37?

[@JohnDoe-od6xk]

@blackline6619 yes thanks didn't realize put 4 instead of 3

[@alexterieur8813]

His reactions were so funny

[@No0bZai96]

Doubted his existence for a moment definitely

[@victorprati7908]

nah that's overreacting twitch cringe

[@bumblegoot1139]

Can’t wait for Godwyn’s insane deathblight attacks, The Gloam-Eyed Queen spewing a shit ton of black flame everywhere, and Miquella being the most insanely tight and harrowing boss battle in video game history.

[@redemption1216]

@@lrsb1678 DLC bosses are always better than base game bosses. So far the best Boss fight I had is Gael and Friede.

[@redemption1216]

@@lrsb1678 better visuals, better lore. I mean malenia is kind of stale for me. Better attack patterns and not the spammy ones. 🤣

[@initialj9915]

But gloam eyed is Melina, wouldn’t make sense unless in other dlc based on the frenzied flame ending

[@AskwhoQ]

Would be the coolest shit ever if Godwyn summoned death blight spikes on you like how fortissax summons it’s lightning

[@BigBroKuma]

​@@lrsb1678 Yes the answer is yes

[@josephnissenson3252]

Malenia was the only soulsbourne boss that I gave up and summoned for. It always bother me so I went to ng+ and finally solo'd her after fourteen combined hours of trying. Most satisfying feeling I ever felt playing a video game

[@FGame2star]

nah I summoned she's made to be ridiculous so I got my Mimic and went to work on her

[@josephnissenson3252]

@@FGame2star summoning just never felt satisfying for me personally. I always just feel like i cheesed them by splitting the agro

[@FGame2star]

man I was looking at her sword swing even with no contact she re-gained meter, and when she hit me and my mimic I think she gained health even faster.@@josephnissenson3252

[@chinavirus841]

@@josephnissenson3252cringe

[@t2nexx561]

After attempt like 70+ I gave way to summoning as well and beat her on my first try never felt more defeated and unsatisfied definitely plan on giving her a second go with no summoning

[@liteflunky]

I had absolutely no problem with any of the bosses until I met Malenia. She humbled me real quick by one shotting me my first attempt. It took me around 4 hours to beat her and I also looked up a guide on her moveset. I yelled so loud when I did finally beat her

[@D4Bean]

Finally defeating Malenia was the most satisfaction I've had in a minute

[@cjh8069]

She beat me to a bloody pulp too. i didn’t want to continue the story tell I beat her on first play through. I say it was 50 % luck and 50 practicing dieing haha..50+ times and researching what works with my build which luckily I had the katana to lvl 22 with repeating thrust

[@jebes909090]

it took me so long that when i beat her i felt nothing

[@cjh8069]

I feel yah I respected to a mage and found two legendary sorcery spells to try on her. Azure comet one of them..laser beam

[@fanghur]

Honestly, I felt almost no satisfaction when I finally managed to beat her. Simply because I knew full well that it was mostly just sheer luck that my attack landed before hers did.

[@ambidex5383]

​@@jebes909090 that definitely happens after a point, there's nothing left.

[@SachinRajput]

Malenia was the most emotional boss fight I ever had in any game. The rot, Miquella, her waiting for him, her sorrow, all of it was so evident, and I felt so bad the closer she was getting to death. The underlying emotion of all FromSoft games is sorrow and grief. And Malenia was at the epitome of it. Say whatever, but to me, she is one of the best boss fights.

[@Vandalgia]

Completely agree, and she was extremely fun to fight against too. I enjoyed every single minute I struggled against her. She's extremely difficult, but she's a fair boss IMO.

[@pirategamenger4724]

I completed all the form soft games I loved them all but I only understand sekiro story properly why dark souls bloodbrone and elden ring story so hard to understand they could easily add dialogues.why don't they tell the story simple way pls tell I love the difficult I love the bosses of all fromsoft game but man why not telling the story like sekiro.

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

@@pirategamenger4724 VaatiVidya said no. /s

[@flamingmanure]

shhhh so many souls veterans fume when you insinuate ER bosses are better than some older classic boss fights they loved, the nostalgia drunk usually operate that way.

[@jacquescousteau3194]

Dude... Artorias and Sif exist...

[@exeledusprince9165]

the problem with Malenia, and a ton of Elden Ring bosses for that matter, is that they never let you have "your turn". In every other soulslike game From Software designed, the bosses were designed around turns. Not literally, but more in the sense of combat flow. The enemy would attack, it was your job to react and mitigate damage as much as possible, and then it would be your turn, while the boss was done after their turn, to decide: heal, damage, buff. Problem is, in Elden Ring, more often than not with these bosses, your turn never happens. They are constantly attacking, their combo strings never end, theres never a break for you to do anything. You HAVE to take the risk of being damage if you want to get anywhere in these boss fights. It makes Elden Ring exhausting to play, and In my opinion, some of the worst bosses in From Software's repertoire. Shields are pointless against the majority of bosses in Elden Ring, they will snash through your stamina and leave you vulnerable after 2 hits, usually 1. Malenia will heal when hitting a shield, which is honestly just unacceptable.

[@codylakin288]

Elden Ring was my first Souls game ever, and I was NOT prepared but oh, man, did I fall in love. I take my time with games, I love to just enjoy them, so this was perfect for me. I also became acquainted with levels of frustration I’ve probably not ever felt in a video game before, starting with Astel, then just escalating from there. Usually, two hours is long for me to play a game uninterrupted. I’ll put a couple hours in, then a couple more later in the day. With Malenia, I believe it took me four and a half hours nonstop. That bliss I felt after victory is a high I don’t really expect a game to ever live up to again.

[@donnamarie33]

when she said “you will witness true horror” during the phase transition i knew i was in for some shit

[@kasairan8492]

For real i was like the guy ay 13:40 laughing in pure shock like oh yeah yep this is horror indeed

[@fahad101summan]

And true horror I witnessed

[@krejzitime]

she is so difficult but also so respectfull she calls you true lord and that she met her match when she is considered strongest of them all

[@KwassaKwassa_]

Radahn

[@krejzitime]

@@KwassaKwassa_ radahn is considered strongest of all demigods but he lost to malenia so who is better there🤷‍♂️

[@KwassaKwassa_]

@@krejzitime he didnt lose

[@krejzitime]

@@KwassaKwassa_ i mean it was stalement but to be real she did fucked him up

[@KwassaKwassa_]

@@krejzitime that's true, kinda cheap that she used scarlet rot to defeat him, but so did I so I guess it's fair

[@shinyheracross4091]

something I’ve always enjoyed about souls games. the bosses are decaying , falling apart, have lost their mind, etc. and yet, they are still powerful, still require such determination to fell.

[@omaravalos1234]

I love how for Malenias fight i knew the 2nd phase was coming but i was in denial saying “please tell me there isnt a 2nd phase” during the cut scene

[@13lackNexus]

If Malenia is this hard imagine how hard the dlc bosses are going to be. Calling it right now with Miquella/St trina being a bosses that will sleep you thenn grab you witha oneshot attack. Better stock up on sleep boluses.

[@EvanExplains]

The blind swordsman needs to be dlc

[@macnamaryb7773]

I was thinking that, if Miquella was a boss, he would use Bewitching Branches against Spirit Ashes, entirely cutting off that approach because it would only serve to make the fight harder.

[@NaK-R]

@@EvanExplains an he better be a boss. Not some NPC figh

[@LeggoMyGekko]

@@macnamaryb7773that would be an amazing mechanic, specifically targeting what many consider the games “easy mode” system. Imagine the horror of summoning a mimic tear just to realize you’re now fighting the boos AND an exact copy of yourself at once 😭

[@abhitejvelore]

@@NaK-R I'd be ok with him being a Marika like character. It's not like he's a renown fighter. And as Malenia so enthusiastically repeats it, she's the blade.

[@yannickpfeiffer]

It was very funny to recognize that Malenia would be just chillin for hours if you did so too and you both look at each other like "you go first"

[@TheGamingStorage69420]

it was like a high school fight you: you're not going to attack? your enemy: make me

[@hedoxanimations9393]

It hurt even more when I found out that she is canonically blind. Yes, she literally handed our asses to us with her eyes closed

[@t2nexx561]

Not just that but to take away an arm and a leg just for her to be fair

[@asche_bm]

My favourite boss out of every game. Although I must admit, Rykard is a very close second. But Malenia's character is also so terribly sad when you look at her lore and the loss of her brother she obviously loves more than anything. I am not even sure, if she is aware that he isn't even in that room with her anymore. The way she sits looks like she points her still intact hand/arm towards that hole in the Haligtree where Miquella's egg would be if Mohg wouldn't have taken it. And the things she says could also just mean, she sits there and waits for his return which is literally just getting out of that egg. "Waiting for his return". That does not sound like she knows he was kidnapped, because if she knew she would not just sit and wait there? And how is a kidnapped person supposed to "return" when no one takes that person back. If she knew, I would guess she would say something more like "he was taken away and I am still in search for him". She also can't see after all and she was comatose since she fought Radahn...who could have told her, that her brother is gone. Long story short: It sounds more like she is awaiting Miquella to get out of that egg to me. If that is accurate - which I do believe - it would even be more tragic, as they are more divided than she even knows. She almost desperately emphasizes that she is the Blade Of Miquella. That is what counts for her. Not being an Empyrean of such power. But being her brother's guard. Fully aware and prepared to step back for him when the time would have come to be the successor of Queen Marika. And just staying his guard. And all the people going "Radahn blablabla". No. Malenia fought him blind and already amputated. Not necessarily blinded by rot, but blinded by her helmet (as her swordmaster probably taught her this way of fighting as he himself was blind). Every fight she took was without eyesight and wearing prosthetics and it came down to those two in the Shattering Wars. And it is not like she could not beat him. He could not beat her. Blind and wearing prosthetics and still she was that fast. Too fast for him to hit properly. Although he had the advantage of strength, size, magic, an intact body, eyesight and even a horse (although that might be a bit exaggerated looking at how and why he rode it)...he could not beat her. He could not even keep her at distance. While she knew she needs one single hit. As we know, she would land that devastating blow after all. A stalemate for Radahn at that time must have been like a loss looking at his pride as a warrior. All while literally watching her even sacrificing herself to stop him. I think she did fight for Miquella in that war, not for herself. Her choice or thought was that if Radahn can't beat her, Miquella can win the whole war in the end. Again, her brother mattered most. We the players can only beat both of them because the rot has weakened them terribly over time. It is the curse an Empyrean bears after all and even Malenia says, that we will now witness "true horror" when her Goddess phase starts. I do not really think that is a threat in a classic way, more like an "And now you will suffer and feel, what I suffered and felt my whole life". So yes. This whole character of Malenia is not just a hard boss fight. It is part of such a great yet sad story and has such a great depth in it that only grows on second sight.

[@zaimhassan6490]

You're right. Malenia has no idea Miquella is gone, and you're also right about the part where she's waiting for him. While Malenia is cursed by the scarlet rot, Miquella is cursed with etern youth. It's implied the reason Miquella is in the cocoon is so he can find the cure for his as well as his sisters curse, which is then messed by up by Mohg.

[@jaymatt6443]

Cap, Wdym malenia was to fast in the trailer radahn sliced her prosthetic arm off. Second off if she only needed one hit why did she decide “Hmm… I think I should put my self in a coma!” Like dude she needed to release her suicidal rot just to make it a tie. Radahn didn’t even loose he was just driven mad

[@randomguy7174]

Quick tip for anyone struggling with Malenia: 1) Control the fight. Don't let her corner you; the arena looks much bigger than how it actually feels. 2) For the first two lunges of her Waterfowl Dance, dodge backwards or to the side, the side dodge takes more precision but leaves you at full hp, the back dodge has you take a few hundred points of damage (from the first one, the second won't even hit you) but is easier to execute, even panic rolling works. For the third, unlock your camera from her and as soon as she "jumps" toward you, dodge *FORWARD*, as she's programmed to get behind you. 3) Her rapid slices (the "ding" sound move) can be easily dodged by rolling into the first three slices (preferably forward-right), and back-right from the final slice. 4) For her Scarlet Aeonia, back away as soon as you see her wind up (the Phase 2 beginning is obvious, the others begin with her flying into the air, glowing with an orange hue and flower petals) and when you see her beginning to plunge downwards, immediately roll. Then, sprint, roll or bloodhound step further away to avoid the bloom. 5) Don't get greedy. While it may be tempting to do a full use of some weapon skill or two charged heavy attacks, you're likely animation-locking yourself into getting combo-d. Chip down her health between her moves rather than trying to stunlock her and melt her HP bar in one go, as that'll prove to be quite ineffective. 7) For more or less the rest of her phase 1 attacks, rolling backwards as soon as she lunges towards you seems to do the trick and give you enough time to react and dodge again. If there's anything I missed, feel free to let me know or ask me about it in the replies!!! Hope I helped, even if only slightly

[@abhitejvelore]

I fought Malenia is a completely different approach. It's build specific, but it was a faith arcane build. Most of Malenia attacks are dodge able with ease. Whenever her katana clanks with her armour, shes going to gap close. The attack is devastating, but it's easily dodge able and once doged she can be punished. My weapon of choice was rivers of blood, but anything else with bleed works. Waterfowl is the big deal, so once we passed the first bleed Proc, the idea was to maintain distance. Bait her move and the deliver a blow and make a gap. The moment she winds up waterfowl - start Borealis mist, this frostbites her and throws her out of waterfowl. Now repeat. Second phase is easier. Scarlet Aeonia - DONOT RUN AWAY. Run directly towards her, she will lunge in your direction and miss you. This is the time for Agheels flame, unload everything onto her. You can remove more than 40% of her HP. After that, find an opening for Borealis mist and keep up the pressure. Because she removed her armour she has very little poise. So you can pressure her much harder. If you don't have access to the dragon incantations, just use the freezing pots. As soon as she is up in the air, chuck a freezing pot to bring her down, works on waterfowl, works on he clone attack. It's that simple.

[@Ghorda9]

you don't need to dodge or lock off for the third flurry, just walk towards her and than back away after she lands, that's it if you don't back away too soon you should avoid it completely. You can also dodge first flurry at point blank by just spamming light roll four times away from her.

[@tkong6465]

The biggest thing people Forgot to do was learn her movset once you beat her once you understand her forever and can’t beat her easy every time It’s all about reading her

[@lesterparker1594]

I didn’t have trouble with her. Learned how to dodge waterfowl. Took maybe 10 tries. Spammed weapon art on fallingstar beast jaw. Easy win

[@tarasouthwell6132]

Rolling light attacks (with light equipment load) are almost always safe after her more standard melee attacks. Her poise isn't terribly high either, so buffing with the poise damage physick and hitting her with something that does a lot of quick hits can get you some criticals or some breathing room to heal.

[@tricksterx98]

9:16 is probably the best fight on Malenia that I've ever witnessed

[@brocksmith1256]

Rocking the +4 flasks

[@5stargrim]

I could be wrong, but looking at that build, I very strongly feel that was a rl1 run 😂

[@5stargrim]

Maybe not though, it is toast. Maybe he just decided hp was overrated 😂

[@susieangelandoy7094]

@@5stargrim It's like a beginner-level player walking thru the first boss room he found not knowing it was an endgame boss by luck 🤣🤣

[@yourveryownlocalmoron6874]

@@5stargrim He had some spells you'd need to have super high int for. He was playing a glass cannon mage

[@chrono_s9699]

I love Malenia's fight. She's the hardest Fromsoftwere boss ever and overcoming her makes it all the more satisfying. Not to mention she's an endgame optional superboss and so obviously she's was going to be brutally challenging.

[@beefyronin]

Isshin the Sword Saint

[@Fusible_1]

@@beefyronin I love Isshin he is my favorite boss but i don't get why people struggle with him. He's pretty easy even on a first playthrough imo.

[@dhaumya23gango75]

@@Fusible_1 Isshin the sword saint the final boss of sekiro consistently tops hardest bosses in video games list, check it out.

[@dylandooley8494]

@@Fusible_1it can go different ways but for me I spent no summons 30 on Malenia 40 on maliketh 25 on kos 25 on owl 20 on gael and every other boss around 20 and under but isshin took me 200 literally by far the hardest for me not being remotely close

[@Zach2795]

God I love this boss so much, and so proud to have beat her solo after god knows how many tries and cant wait for another boss like her to become a thing in dlc or next games

[@villelepoaho4105]

Killing this boss without spirit summons is truly something else. And if you do it without bleed & frost, you're a true giga chad.

[@Familia_nepal_nepal_do_mal12]

I did it RL1 with commander`s spear. But jesus christ it took me like 400 tries. It took more time to beat her than to reach her at RL1

[@leonake4194]

I did used the mimic as a shield to waterfoul, but outside of that there was nothing overpowered other than myself and my damage points almost 100% invested in strength and dexterity in equal parts, just with some healt trown in, not even stamina (i literally ran out of stamina following her when she ran away every time she took much damage). This was my first souls ever and i didnt even knew what rivers of blood was, the katana i got from malenia was my first too. I dont ever parry, i dont use shields nor block. I only attack. Took me 10 hours to do it fighting non stop but i still had funn, top 5 bosses in ER. The elden beast instead was pure shitt to me. Fucker forced me to invest my first ever points into stamina just so i could chase him. I did not change my way to play, only attacking, but it took me 3 days. I literally woke up, fought the boss and went too sleep till the third day i finnaly won

[@issi529]

Her first phase is pretty easy to beat without summons.

[@seastilton7912]

I did it hitless with only parries (using convergence mod)

[@supremacy-dt7ud]

Fighting her solo without bleed or spirit summons was how I first beat her. She’s one of the only, if not the only boss I’ve ever taken hundreds of tries to beat in a From Soft game. Laurence, Midir and Ishiin weren’t nearly this hard and Ludwig, Orphan, Friede and Gael came pretty close.

[@davidedmondson8839]

I think one thing that I really liked on my first play through is that Radahn and Malenia felt like they were about the same difficulty for the time that you actually reach them

[@treygarcia3642]

True. It’s really easy to accidentally over level past Caelid, but if you wander over there and fight him immediately after rennala, he feels like a force of nature

[@redblade37]

I disagree, radahan now is a joke. Pre nerf radahan was a monster

[@yournotgully]

just climb the side and spam poison arrows. so much for a demigod.

[@tincano-beans2114]

Radahn literally gives you a squad lmao. He was rough pre nerf and baby mode after.

[@NeezDuts96]

​@@redblade37they fixed it already, no? The nerf was accidental

[@Numberidge]

Nah, what pisses me off is when you die to a boss, and they just keep spamming their OP attacks as fast as they can on your lifeless body

[@rikudo282]

15:45 bro is genuinely tweaking 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shagarumedic]

Malenia’s design is also perfect. The prosthetics, her cape which brandishes the cleanrot knight insignia, her iconic helmet, her fire red hair that seemingly flows like water, it all comes together to craft an iconic design. And the symbolism of her lore is fascinating too. Several war monuments describe Malenia with wings of unparalleled strength or undefeated wings, which become literal wings in our fight. And when she dies her wings fade away, we’re the first ones to clip wings of unparalleled strength. And her hair too. Not only does the scarlet aeonia vastly resemble her hair, her hair is also the last thing to not be corrupted by the rot when we find her. And in phase 2 not even that is safe, her hair is twisted and combined with butterflies into these horrific wings, losing the last thing to the rot. A corruption of the symbol of radagon’s lineage of warriors, faded away

[@shagarumedic]

@@lrsb1678 her wings are most likely (before ascension obviously) symbolic for her sheer will and bravery.

[@iwuanadie1058]

no

[@YelFlux]

Her helmet is valkyrie

[@YelFlux]

Yeah but hair don't get rot I think I mean we never saw anyone with rotted hair

[@YelFlux]

Not even melicit when she die her hair seem to stay the same

[@lifeofasalesman01]

The funny thing is that I have a theory; her weapon that you get from Enia actually has bleed buildup. But she doesn’t afflict bleed in your fight with her. Her first iteration may have had bleed damage, but they decided it was too much and cut it. She was almost much harder if im right

[@blizzardgaming7070]

Yeah I always thought that was stupid, if anything it should have had rot.

[@user-ns4zm8qe9p]

Bro imagine you get rot infected then lost half your health to a bleed proc 😢

[@rodneydsouza2454]

@@blizzardgaming7070 not really untill radahn fight she was always fighting against the scarlet rot. She only unleased it because she had to win either for her honor/ or more likely because of Miquellas need for another eclipse that radahn was preventing. Her inflicting rot in her first phase wouldnt have made sense atleast according to the lore.

[@blizzardgaming7070]

@@rodneydsouza2454 I didn't mean her fight should have rot, I'm saying the weapon you get should have rot.

[@user-jr3zr2mp9c]

Because all katanas by default have bleed

[@fcodxdart1083]

Watching Dan fight this boss was one of the most insane moments on twitch for 30 days lol. It's not going 3000!

[@houcinehamdiken2460]

for me this is the best fight i have ever played in the entire souls series learning how to dodge the waterfowl dance without seeing any guide is so satisfying malenia is the only boss that made me under pressure especially the 2nd phase other bosses like nah i will just learn the mouvements and then beat them but malenia no when u read her lore and when u fight her u know thats the best combat for sure and when i finally beat her it was so amazing and wonderful at least whe she said your strength extroardinary she was talking to me not to the mimic XD

[@WheeInDisBeech]

I’ve actually heard that the bloom outside of her boss fight is not her bloom. It’s one of Millicents sisters blooms, which is why it has her outfit inside of it. Her third and final bloom is after you kill her and come back to the arena, and there’s speculation she’s inside of it ready to bloom at any point into the ultimate goddess of rot.

[@TheDefiledShell]

That’s what I thought. DLC maybe…?

[@defconone7622]

Definitely the most rage-psychosis inducing boss of all time imo. Great fight, super satisfying defeat, but took many hours of my life in trade. 10/10

[@jimtsap04]

That title firmly belongs to the bed of chaos, for all the wrong reasons

[@SleepyZayuh]

definitely not, try a megaman or ikaruga game.

[@MrJambiwana]

you need to play Sekiro

[@petterdanielsen2263]

Hardest boss of all time?? Not even close. But that's my opinion playing games for over 40 years. Hard, yes...but when hardness mainly depends on builds and other factors where every fight is individual, the "hardest boss ever" is not even a valid argument. If all players had the same opportunity according to gear an build it could be discussed, but it's not.

[@victorprati7908]

In all fairness what's the hardest boss you ever faced in your 40 years gaming career? @@petterdanielsen2263

[@Xenos369]

One aspect about Malenia I dont see many others talk about is how dynamic her fight is. IMO its why she is so difficult, she can change/cancel combos on the fly. Stunlock her, she can deflect. She can dodge and follow up with attacks depending on distance and angle. Add this to the fact that she can occasionally tank through a poise break and it makes possibly the most dynamic boss FromSoft has made. Waterfowl is the nice cherry on top

[@Lucifer_Nihilum]

Personally, I don't think she needs any Nerfs. Arguably I think she might deserve an indirect buff by expanding her moveset to be harder to read. What I definitely think NEEDS a buff, is her remembrance loot and especially her Great Rune. Her Great Rune gives you the Rally Mechanic, which is just Not good in Elden Ring. You deserve Full Fucking LIFESTEAL. And good Lifesteal too. Her Loot should be at least among the Best in the Game! And her Sword is, though I think it deserves to be better. But her Great Rune is considered to be the worst in the game. Melania's Great Rune deserves to be Actually Good on certain builds. My suggestion: On hit heal 25 health plus 5% of your damage on hit. The Hand of Melania should have a slightly better Waterfowl Dance, but be more demanding in stats for scaling and be less damaging over all. Also a bit faster in its moveset. And Scarlet Aeonia should be much more damaging or easier to land in PvP. Maybe a Variable charge time and larger AoE?

[@janugur2241]

After all the difficulty, controversy and rage Malenia induced, she is one of the few bosses in the game that can get poise-broken so easily and i think that that's her biggest weakness as you can stun-lock her for 2-3 hits at a time if you're careful.

[@skyisoceanblue]

P

[@Avyrr]

Works wonders up until NG+4 and onwards, that’s when her Poise becomes almost unbreakable or rather it happens very rarely. And that’s also when she’s an entirely different story. Beating her on NG+7 with my Level 150 character was one of the hardest things I‘ve ever experienced apart from Ninja Gaiden Black on Master Ninja…

[@KyloB]

​@@Avyrr On NG9 at the moment and can still bully her with colossal weapons, especially things like stamp:upward cut, giant hunt, etc. Just repeatedly toss her in the air like a ragdoll and follow it with a charged r2, still breaks her poise fairly consistently

[@World_of_KGZ]

I beat her on second try because of this Oh and also weak to bleed She is a cake Pretty overhyped

[@Kamishi845]

@@World_of_KGZ You run a bleed build which cheeses almost every boss in the game except Radagon and Elden Beast, and those two aren't even comparable to Malenia in difficulty. So your opinion isn't that valid if I'm honest.

[@itszaque5031]

Ngl both her and the entire Haligtree area feel like they could have been DLC. Everything from the puzzle to access the area to the difficulty to the completely unique feel of the area. It’s a special experience for sure, and even though I have put in more attempts on Malenia than I have on any other boss I have yet to beat her without either summoning or using bleed.

[@cornpop838]

Halig tree was very lazily done in terms of level design. Looks amazing don’t get me wrong but putting like 6 revenents in a row in a straight line or the erd tree avatars that just spam ranged was not fun or rewarding.

[@treygarcia3642]

Probably was supposed to be DLC that they populated with known enemies. Good compromise, whatever they were supposed to put in there is probably added to Shadow of the Erdtree.

[@itszaque5031]

@@cornpop838 I definitely disagree, the tree section takes pretty good strategy to clear optimally, there are branching paths to cross the rest of the area, and the enemies are varied and challenging. The level feels similar to the ringed city in both difficulty and level design. Difficulty is a fair critique, but the ringed city also has a very high difficulty if you decide to fight every enemy.

[@allainangcao28]

Her Waterfowl's Dance is perhaps one of the most beautiful and, at the same time, the most horrifying move in all of FromSoft.

[@ecchiboi2874]

Love the comments with all people who have to mention they did it first try. Very valuable info on the matter for sure!

[@amlugonnen5106]

Honestly, Malenia is one of my favourite boss fights. On my first playthrough, I struggled a lot. Like, a lot a lot. However, I never felt like I was losing fun. I kept trying and eventually I won and when I did, my screams of joy made my discord friends go deaf. It may be because Elden Ring is my first time properly playing a FromSoft game, so I didn't have anyone to compare her to, but the fight just felt and still feels really fun, waterfowl and all.

[@Phill_DxP]

Exactly this. She's the only boss in the entire game that forces the players to actually think about their builds and strategies. (You can add Rykard if you're not planning to beat him with Serpent Hunter) She's also the only boss that killing her, at least for me personally, is way less satisfying than keeping her around and dancing with her.

[@0x6e95]

I still personally think she's way too overtuned. As if FromSoft tried too hard to make a difficult boss. I hope their DLC bosses are not this ridiculous and I say this as someone who's played most of their previous games. DS3 had much better bosses imo.

[@PipeRiosL]

@@0x6e95 I actually hope they make a better version, as they always do. I used a build that was pretty much a cheese (without knowing) and killed her easily... I was cosplaying Crucible Knights with Selurias Woe. Mimic tear and at 4 try I did it For me the hardest was mohg though, and I enjoyed that fight a lot

[@Guilez18]

the only time i felt like i was losing fun in elden ring wasnt coming from fighting bosses, it was from fighting the god damn gravity in every end game area , that was such a shitty experience.

[@A2Z2]

I feel the same even though I played every souls game, Malenia is my favorite boss

[@wildbard4112]

The thing about her story is that she may not even be dead. From her Scarlet Aronia spell description it refers to her as if she's still alive.

[@aceundead4750]

It also says she's only bloomed twice, and since we get the Incant after beating her a lot of people (including myself) think the bloom outside her arena isnt hers.

[@MotardDeFatima]

​@@aceundead4750yes, and it says that as she blooms the third time, she will become a godess, and you fight the godess of rot on her second phase, so it was in fact her third bloom, the incantation probably was supposed for us to get before her fight, maybe from the sisters of rot since they were supposed to use the scarlet aeonia too, so not only Malenia is dead, as we did fight her last form after the third bloom

[@aceundead4750]

@@MotardDeFatima but then why would she turn into the Aeonia flower after being defeated, whereas everyone else fades away, even Marika (who is a god) if none of the mending runes are used fades into dust after Radagon and the Elden Beast are defeated. It also wouldnt make sense for us to get the incant from the sisters unless they somehow had a great rune we were supposed to collect, or it wasnt meant to be a reward for Malenia's remembrance which both seem unlikely.

[@MotardDeFatima]

@@aceundead4750 first off, malenia is the goddess of rot, Marika is the literal elden ring, and we can see Marika is a statue, it's not even her real being, and what happens to statues? They turn into dust, which is what happens. We see Malenia in flesh, not her statue locking her soul, so it wouldn't make sense to turn into dust, but fade away, which is what happens to every boss, to her too, the bloom is in her arena to show her third bloom. Second, the sisters of rot are descendants of malenia, therefore they are able to use the power of scarlet aeonia, since we see that one bloom that is outside of malenia's room is not from Malenia herself. So it can only mean that, like Malenia, the sisters of rot can use the aeonia and bloom, and is what happens, without her great rune. Plus it would connect everything since we would get it before Malenia's bossfight, giving a foreshadowing that she will become a true goddess as we make her bloom the third time. Everything makes sense, there's no holes in it.

[@henazz2561]

@@MotardDeFatimaI have a doubt. If the bloom outside her room is not hers, when did she bloom for the second time?

[@TwoFoxGibbon]

Black Knife Tiche. Spam Dark Rancor. (i think it's dark rancor.) but anyway, it staggers her with every hit of the spell, so she never has a chance to really attack. Easy cheese. And no, I'm not sorry for cheesing her.

[@user-op2bh7rc9z]

Playing a Fromsoft game upon release is truly a treasure trove of experiences. I remember the first couple of days everyone posting and complaining about Radahn and as time passed and people discovered more areas this boogeyman of a boss became legend.

[@moonrabbit2334]

The second phase is so "hard" I had to consult additional lore material after that

[@EvanExplains]

I had to consult a therapist bro 😂

[@tylerrobbins8311]

Is it? I didn't reallybeven fight at, I simplybstun locked her using my mimic and a zeiwhander. You can bounce her and it keeps her stun locked if you time it right.

[@moonrabbit2334]

@@tylerrobbins8311 "lore"

[@cutcutado]

The fight was hard and so was i

[@datzfatz2368]

@@moonrabbit2334 same bruv. There is some good supplementary Lore Material for this game out here^^

[@callofbooty7717]

13:55 Judging by his reaction to 2nd phase and by how little crimson tears he had left, we all know he was fighting for his life in the first phase 😂

[@finlayclarke4790]

Why did I get satisfaction from the guy at 9:15 being so smug and instantly getting humbled

[@earlfaraon7821]

I chuckled too hard when it happened

[@senpafl4405]

So, I said on your Radahn video that I was surprised why he was the controversial when she was basically a Sekiro boss in a Souls game. Okay, here is my little conspiracy theory. Some of you may have heard about Tomoe in Sekiro, kind of a legend in the game's lore, swordmaster and the lady who trained Genichiro and bodyguard of the previous divine heir Takeru. Her fighting style was described by many as a dance. Now, how come we never had the opportunity in Sekiro to duel her? I think at one point in Sekiro's development a boss fight against her was planned but scrapped and the movements that were already finished were later implemented in Malenias moveset. I mean her special attack is basically Floating Passage, the way she attacks leaves so few openings but would be counterable with Sekiro's system, everything would add up. Tl;dr: Malenia's moveset is probably based on a scrapped Sekiro Tomoe battle.

[@ArleniaSery]

she has hella openings

[@atlas1215]

I've thought about the same thing lmao. Tomoe would've made an epic boss in Sekiro.

[@kwamemwangs2173]

Malenia has openings they just take some time to get used to

[@waderich9904]

I agree

[@swagwolfgang]

I blame elden ring for sekiro not getting a dlc and i honestly will never forgive that

[@ultimatehope549]

Took me 6 days of several hours of attempts each day before I finally took her down. Probably gave me the biggest rush of euphoria I’ve ever felt from a game

[@amazingdany]

No ash to help you?

[@ultimatehope549]

@@amazingdany I thought about it, but after day 2 I was already in too deep to puss out. Only used ashes for gank fights on my first playthrough, I’m crazy enough to fight Malenia solo but I’d have to be borderline insane to take on Crucible or Godskin Duo solo. The former actually became my most hated boss after I spent like 2 hours dying over and over solo before returning with an ash later

[@504Trey]

Wow people really had this much of a hard time beating her?? 🤔 I slayed her azz the first time I battled her... I was actually disappointed in how easy it was..

[@ultimatehope549]

@@504Trey I have a friend who beat her in 2 hours and that really humbled me 😅

[@deusex9731]

@@ultimatehope549 yeah i did the same. I knew how she would be and decided i want to get it done without a summon just for the sake of it. Didnt use a summon, didnt use bloodhound step but caved at bleed buildup and freezepots. But i also didnt look up guides which might have helped a lot but my ego just said nah you can do it

[@des_mondo5589]

Utchi/Rivers of Blood + Mimic Tear. She’s tough if you wanna solo her but there are ways to make her a complete joke. Plus she can be parried which helps

[@5thsin438]

She hasn't bloomed 3 times yet. The one u see outside her arena was one of Millicent's sisters. Just like Millicent, if u kill her, that one bloomed after death The time she blooms in her fight, is the 2nd. So there's a big probability she'll return in the DLC

[@JimmysOrigami]

I think it’s strongly implied that the bloom right before malenias boss room isn’t from malenia and is from one of the off shoots like Millicent cuz there’s travelers garbs next to it and it’s also way smaller than malenias bloom, I think that we experienced a second bloom and that she was only partial goddess in her second phase, and a third bloom may come later of malenia isn’t really dead but in a coma again

[@treygarcia3642]

I feel that a third bloom would make an excellent callback if they continue the franchise (how are we going to forget Malenia) but not be as effective if we saw it in DLC for this game. Same for the frenzy flame god coming into power and the gloam-eyed queen. It will be interesting to see what becomes of this storied world once all the demigods have died and you impose a temporary new world order. The outer forces have to gain some strength to upset the balance and set up whatever is next.

[@ArchHippy]

I was going to point that out. Also her remembrance, which is only available after the fight, says that she only bloomed twice. They do actually take things like this into account when they write the lore. For example, the fell omen is referred to in past tense in item lore available post-Morgott.

[@phiphi2209]

Everyone’s very first fight against her will always result in a death in about 5 seconds since after the intro cutscene the game wants to put you just a few inches away from her resulting in….instant death

[@Tilmann5138]

My first fight with her ended with her being dead 🤷‍♂️

[@SolaireofAstoraFH]

@@Tilmann5138no it didnt

[@Tilmann5138]

@@SolaireofAstoraFH yes, it did. Because unlike most people I didn't neglect my defensive stats. Oh no, Waterfowl dance is so unfair, because it kills you from full health. Well.... Just have high defensive stats, heal back up and continue smashing her head. I didn't even have to learn her moves. Most disappointing fight in my entire gaming experience.

[@amirferdhany3177]

@@Tilmann5138 while I disagree on it being disappointing, yeah. Most people neglect vigor and other forms of protection, thinking they can out-damage the boss. This gives them less breathing room compared to someone who can tank it.

[@excalibro8365]

@@Tilmann5138 Cool story bro

[@Joker-sy4xr]

Honestly most people who say there’s no way to avoid waterfowl dance up close are usually the people who panic roll the first couple of times and then raging, refusing to learn and just doing the same things over and over again while complaining it is unfair. There are so many ways to avoid waterfowl dance it’s just harder than other bosses’ strongest attacks in the past. That doesn’t make it unfair.

[@LyricSnowe]

“Challenge is a right of passage” Amen to that.

[@smileyakhila]

Dancer from DS3 has a first phase where she doesn’t aggressively hunt you as well. It’s low key one of the best ever fights in the series, arguably the best. Incredibly unpredictable and beautiful fighting style, 2 iconic attacks in the grab and the sword dance, perfectly balanced in a way that a a lvl 15 player can learn to beat it but is the hardest boss for challenge runners over even midir because her style makes her always a possibility to hit you, no bloated hp bar, no endboss try hard shit, great theme music, great lore with pontiff. Has everything.

[@SamsarasArt]

Dancer is really fun to fight.

[@alexandrarussom33]

Dancer is my favorite Soulsborne boss!!

[@Squirrel-Muncher]

I remember during summer vacation in high school I spent a solid week straight doing nothing but fighting the dancer to the point that to this day I still remember some of her attack patterns and when to roll to dodge them, never had such a rewarding yet agonizing experience

[@30000beesinatrenchcoat]

That description sound almost identical to Malenia

[@BrokeBoiGas]

Malenia may be the hardest boss, but she's my favorite boss to fight. Any new character or NG+ I do, I'll always go to the Haligtree to fight her. And every time I beat her, I bow and do it again in my next playthrough. Love this boss.

[@Al-ji4gd]

She's mid.

[@ElExiawolf]

I think the thing that does Malenia hard is the fact that she heals on hit So you gotta do it perfect otherwise she will heal while you will rot Ng+ Malenia is so cool to fight tho, my favorite fight in the game along with Maliketh

[@xtwinezx6552]

Great video. I'll never forget beating her. My wife ran into the room and hugged me when she heard me let out a war cry as soon as i won. Lol love the abyss watchers theme in the background btw. 2nd best OST for me. After the Godskin Apostles

[@electric_whelk1653]

I genuinely keep forgetting she has lifesteal. She has a homing AOE 1hKO. Lifesteal would make every other boss in the game double in difficulty but in my experience was basically item description text next to the Waterfowl Dance.

[@EvanExplains]

Very happy with how this turned out! Let me know what I can do to improve the storytelling

[@TGTigerEvelynn]

I do want to correct you on something. I think it's a misunderstanding that Melania woke up because of us. Her Rune clearly states that she bloomed twice. We know of the one in Caelid, the other one is what we assume to be her teacher who challenged her at the haligtree. This isn't confirmed though but it is most likely that many challengers came to the haligtree but either died on the way or succumbed by the rot. P.S. it does seem you touch on it. So I might be wrong. Maybe the first blooming is from before her engagement with Radahn. That is unlikely though due to how the story portrays it.

[@ericchura7051]

Is that you giving a ps5 away

[@TGTigerEvelynn]

@@ericchura7051 no that's not him. It's a scam bot.

[@mr.wasgehtsiedasan8594]

1:56 what's that cut tho? Otherwise great video😄

[@iFarmHard]

What is the song playing in the outro?

[@SoulbreakerNB]

Her strength is justified. If you read the lore surrounding her and her master/ brother, she got that good because of the circumstances and choices she made throughout her life. I have mad respect for her and beating her in a fight was amazing.

[@dinorex3464]

Yeah, people shitting on her for nuking Caelid really didn't get her story. It wasn't a selfish act, it was the ultimate sacrifice to ensure her brother's plan could work (even though it didn't anyway because fuck Mohg).

[@bovineintervention276]

No her strength isn't justified because of choices... she was born from two gods and taught by the best swordsman ever

[@richterkonig7826]

@@dinorex3464 Only selfish people would say it wasn't selfish.

[@Sora-vw1bf]

@@richterkonig7826 How selfish of Radahn in halting nature (The Stars) which stopped the fates of two of his siblings. Then said siblings tried to stop him from doing so in order to move forward. How hypocrite.

[@richterkonig7826]

@@Sora-vw1bf Nah, not in the same stratosphere of Malenia's selfishness, of nuking the whole of Caelid and making the present and future's inhabitants suffer all because she lost her fight against Radahn. And lol she fainted and had to be carried back home by the cleanrot knight Finlay afterwards.

[@baljeetrai9977]

When she said “Oh miquella my brother, I’ve finally met my match” I screamed so loud at the screen

[@KS-bo5bg]

I honestly didn't have too hard of a time against her, but that's solely because I was over level 300 by the time I finally found Elfheim. I didn't want to fight her, because I loved her the moment she showed up in reveal trailers. I would wind up having to go to Elfheim though, out of sheer necessity because I didn't want to get the frenzied flame ending once I realized that Shabriri was playing us for a fool. Also, Millicent's quest line, which I am not afraid to admit made me weep like an abandoned child. Just one room away from meeting her ancestor, and getting all the answers to the questions that burn in the hearts of all orphans, only for us to realize the Rot is coming back to overtake her due to Gowrys betrayal and that she is going to die without any answers, or closure....that was too much for me to bare. I haven't to been back to Elden Ring since honestly, and I don't know if the DLC will even draw me in right away like everyone else. Milicent, deserved better, and I'm not saying it's bad that she is tragic, don't misunderstand me... just that for me it hit close to home..."No Malenia, lord or not, I couldn't make a difference where it mattered to me the most. I didn't want things to turn out this way, so all that strength counts for nothing to me, and I'd throw it aside if it brought you, your brother and Milicent back to life so you could be reunited. Even with myself at lvl 300 she took me an entire night and morning to finally beat...but honestly, I don't get the appeal of beating her the way everyone else does and I'm frankly saddened that you can't just align with her to get gear like hers instead.

[@Local_commentor]

Malenia ROTUSSY GOT ME PLAYING WITH 1 HAND now that is TRUE DIFFICULTY

[@bandi642]

touch some grass

[@Amfortas]

​@@bandi642 no u

[@roostershield2474]

The battle with her is just so cool. Because she has scarlet rot, she constantly drains your life with each attack to prolong her life. The millions of people and players she has slain to live seconds longer. that is... really something.

[@AI.Overlord.X]

I didn't have much of an issue with her. I did however struggle for days on the fire giant. Watching so many people beating him with ease on KZbin drove me insane.

[@coffeepoweredart9937]

great video! I was gonna say something about Orphan of Kos being quite similar, with like the franticness of the second phase and forcing you to fight on its terms but i forgot that waterfowl dance existed... also very snazzy editing!

[@EvanExplains]

awesome man and thank you! Orphan definitely made you play in its territory

[@julesbellet1449]

Orphan is harder tho

[@coffeepoweredart9937]

@@julesbellet1449 I think orphan is miles better, and in my experience harder i agree, but i still can't dodge waterfowl dance for the life of me

[@julesbellet1449]

@@coffeepoweredart9937 i can't dodge it either but I still managed to beat her twice

[@coffeepoweredart9937]

@@julesbellet1449 oh i've beaten her several times i didn't mean to say it killed me every time it's just annoying

[@aceundead4750]

The Scarlet Aeonia incant states that Malenia has only bloomed twice, so that bloom outside her room may not actually be hers, since we dont get the spell until after beating her.

[@asif5431]

This is not a fair fight at all. But fanatics will still say "oh it's a very fair fight, you're just bad and salty". Like how the hell there are 7-8 slash animation in waterfowl dance move when it swings the blade thrice? Plus that heal on every hit. Even when you block it's attack, it STILL heals. Like how the hell, make it make sense. Also whenever you stagger when it's hp is very low in phase 1 and you crit hit it to zero, it doesn't move to phase 2.

[@popupssuck00]

I should point out that the scarlet bloom just outside Malenia's arena wasn't necessarily her own. It definitely could have been Malenia's but the fact that you loot the Traveler's Set right beside it suggests that it could've been Millicent or one of her sisters.

[@Vladek16]

13:49 that madness laugh is amazing, the man lost it xD

[@angelnavarro9573]

The cuts out of nowhere are so funny. This was a great vid

[@Kayri_wz]

the biond swordsmas was teached how to fight by the blue dancer witch was tied w water so thats why her ash of war is called the waterfoul dance

[@Kira_Official_]

Even if I don't always enjoy fighting Malenia, even if I don't fight her in every playthrough, Malenia is one of the greatest bosses to have been created. Everything from characters talking about her, what she did, who she fought, but mostly how the community handled her. In people's videos playing the game, there were whispers of her name. Dubbing her the hardest boss in the game. Doubt would set in for those players, until the met her. She was so difficult for players that through her, players created the legend of Let Me Solo Her. A tarnished that would come the aid of other fellow tarnished against her. Malenia created something truly magical within the community, and it was amazing being apart of it first hand. Truly an unremarkable experience.

[@thePontiffsSnickerdoodles]

That Aeonia bloom outside of Malenia's arena is not the second bloom. She blooms a second time during her fight, as stated in the Scarlet Aeonia incantation: "Each time the scarlet flower blooms, Malenia's rot advances. It has bloomed twice already. With the third bloom, she will become a true goddess." Our fight with her and her second phase is not her as a real goddess of rot.

[@seankelly3849]

And yes, she was blind, using the water to ascertain your presence, and the sound of your movements to strike you. Her visor completely covers her eyes. But yes I do agree there is a level of respect she shows to you for being brave enough to get to her and foolish enough to challenge her.

[@RandomNorwegianGuy.]

Even without her healing mechanics, which forces you to be perfect in dodging. I think Melania is still objectivly the most difficult boss in the souls series

[@robertodelgado6387]

I sincerly can't understand how people say this is the hardest boss in from soft's roster. Both Ishinn the sword saint and even more Inner Ishinn are way harder than malenia. She literaly has one annoying attack, waterflow dance, the only requires you 3 well timed rolls. Yes, she is chalenging, especialy if you go with a less powerfull build, but she isn't the hardest boss, that title still belongs to Ishinn.

[@ViciousLamp]

Melania is actually given special treatment by the game engine to avoid stance breaks and staggers. She is the only boss that from software has ever released that allows her to cancel out of her stagger animation without having to complete it. Her stance break mechanic is also treated differently like the other bosses in the game she doesn't stange break while in hyper armor but unlike the other bosses her stance break health begins to reign instantly instead of the 6 second delay timer that other bosses have. This plus her long chains allows her to effectively choose to be stance broken or not which can steal free repost that you should have earned normally.

[@tanatonaut870]

All this + the highest imput lag of all FS soulsborne games and imput reading, which is also unprecedented. Paralyzing a character's mobility and letting them fight a boss from SEKIRO. Big lol

[@Shiirya]

@@tanatonaut870 oh wait oh wait is that true ? was that calculated by people, is it official that elden ring has more imput lag ? because i swear i often get kick in the nuts by stupid timing while i fucking swear i pressed my button on time ! For the imput reading yeah, the game is well known for that and clearly abuse of it to a point that it make some moment uninteractive because you are simply afraid of pressing buttons and the enemy will just abuse it to do the perfect counter..., still you can get around but sometime its anoying sure

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Exactly what i have been saying. Shes a stupid and unfair boss. She doesn't belong in this game. The only way to beat her is to play a RNG waiting game (where u can still die if she just decides to not want to be staggered anymore and u make a small mistake) or you just stagger lock her infinitely with double hammers or swords. Shes the "hardest" but not because shes actually hard to beat but because she just has BS abilities. Its kinda like, if a boss had the ability to just have a 40% chance to randomly one shot you for no apparent reasons. But if she doesn't get that 40%, shes really easy. Easier then radagon in my opinion, maybe even more then black blade (If black blade had a full health bar he would def be harder) The true "hardest" boss of souls games is midir, Thats the best designed boss they have ever made. In terms of how hard he is while also being a very fair fight. Same with slave knight gael. You could argue sekiro bosses are harder but its a completely different style of play. I don't really count sekiro as a souls game.

[@Patrick-hl4fo]

Nah. I used a +25 brick hammer with lions claw and stun locked her. One of the easiest bosses in the game. Took under 2 minutes to kill her on my second try (her second phase landing one shotted me lol)

[@bryantlee6416]

Genuinely, as a music player, Souls games become a lot easier once you think of it in terms of rhythm. Malenia took me 2 days but I love it as a learning process. Favorite series in gaming

[@bryantlee6416]

Btw (not to brag) but I beat her in my first play through with a Colossal Sword and on NG +2 with two Colossal Swords. No mimic tears or summons.

[@lickmynuts82]

Bro really said 🤓

[@meneerlagerwaard2047]

Man I've been saying that you could probably set a metronome to 99% of all FromSoft bosses and you'd get a pretty steady count. Sekiro especially!

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Shes not hard, Shes just a BS boss. Shes just glitchy and stupid, Her waterfoul slash or whatever its called can activate instantly if you stagger her leaving you no chance to dodge making the boss fight a snooze fest waiting game or you just go double hammer and infinite stun lock her just to spite her shitty boss design. Midir, is the true hardest boss of souls games, along with sekiro bosses. Really the only good bosses in elden ring were black blade and radagon

[@TheoCynical]

It’s like the secret boss of Drakengard, Ive heard