Testing JOHN WICK’s Bulletproof Suit!

Can a real bulletproof suit straight out of the John Wick-iverse actually stop bullets before they get to your body? Kyle heads to where they trained Keanu Reeves himself to find out.
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[@kylehill]

*Thanks for watching!* Quick note for all the gun-thusiasts. I said "assault rifle" but what we actually fired is an ArmaLite. Also, being IIIA+ rated, there was no way my armor was going to stop a rifle round. My objective was to show the extremes (no armor vs ineffective armor) with the handgun testing in between to show the differences in energy adsorption etc. for this specific tactic.

[@IMunchOnCats]

Appreciate that you made this clarification.

[@1stCallipostle]

My boy being respectful and thorough on an oft mistreated subject

[@patrickm1533]

I really think the bigger question is could a human hold fabric that was catching a bullet.

[@nullnvoid1312]

@@patrickm1533 my first thought when i was watching. i'd bet anything faster/heavier than a .22WMR would rip the fabric out of the user's hand.

[@lasarith2]

I was hoping you we’re going to give us some number ~ the bullet kinetic energy joules , the skins resistance to pressure and how much more it would need to resist the bullet (~ 600 joules bullet ((skin can take (???) and needs to be (????) to stop any damage.

[@hacksmith]

That was awesome! We were originally planning on going down to Taran Tactical for our video but ran out of time. Maybe we should do a part 2!

[@MrAnonymousme10]

Ive seen the suit you guys made. Thats was awesome 👌

[@TREX_04]

YES YES YES LIKE THEIR COMMENT MAKE KYLE SEE THIS!

[@beigestallion2929]

I would love to see a colab between you guys ❤️ Love from France

[@Ghostmaxi1337]

I absolulty thought that you allready did, because of the close proximity of the videos :D

[@blackninja504]

Watching y'all video next. Just saw both in my suggestions lol

[@mugemobi]

Watching Kyle's beard talking at a firing range... Can't help but feel like I'm seeing MythBusters' walrus again. ❤

[@ajtheanomaly9764]

Just started rewatching some mythbusters episodes last night and you’re so right haha the spirit of mythbusters has passed on to a new generation

[@lrhill84]

We need a Kyle Hill and Simone Giertz team up for a Mythbuster style episode. He's got the science and she's got the mechanical engineering.

[@Spolt_main]

I've been rewatching mythbusters with my dad for the last couple of months, and it's been the most fun I've had in years. I bought the entire disk set off of eBay for like $80 and got it for his birthday. So many hours of fun.

[@desireefarris6480]

Well Kyle knows Adam Savage. They should have done a collab on this one.

[@mugemobi]

@@desireefarris6480 no, no, it was time for Kyle to fly solo.... . ... That's why his last name is Solo

[@bwjclego]

With Hacksmith just releasing a video about building a bulletproof John Wick suit (and testing it), and now this, I've learned more about John Wick suits in the last couple days then in the rest of my life.

[@Sabeteur83]

I agree there. So many John wick tests being done all because the next movie will be out soon but all this testing for hacksmith took them over a year to do since they were making an actual suit.

[@patrickcox8990]

Kinda just now realizing how much we need a Kyle Hill/Hacksmith crossover.

[@SarudeDanstorm]

@@patrickcox8990 I thought this video was about to be just that.

[@ostmen_draugr]

@@Sabeteur83 true but if that does take off, & they patent it they can make bank for politicians, foreign dignitaries, secret service agents, etc. Think of all the swanky suits they wear that would be far more useful than just a fashion statement pulling duty as a protectant as well.

[@colchronic]

Except that hacksmith doesn't have access to guns because Canada

[@giggityguy]

My assumption for why John held the suit out like that was to protect his unarmored face, not necessarily to minimize the impact to his body, though that probably would be a nice bonus. Also, pretty much anyone John engages while in the suit is using either a high caliber handgun or a sub-machine gun. The baddies in John Wick are hitmen, not soldiers, so not many of them carry armor piercing rifles unless they have a very specific reason.

[@thomasp506]

I think if the armour is soft and flexible, then having it away from your body could actually make it less effective unless you make sure it stays taut. If its just hanging and flapping loosely, it it's liable to be pushed aside by a bullet coming in at the right angle. Having it against your body would be more reliable, but as you said Wick was doing this to protect his head, not to make his armour more effective. If it's plate armour, then it doesn't really matter where you hold it since the plate itself is rigid.

[@high633]

​@@thomasp506 without testing it would be hard to say it would or wouldn't be pushed out the way. But my thought would be the bullet would have to come in near perpendicular to the soft armour to 'push it away'. But at that point your not talking about the bullet hitting the armour in the sense most would think. But more glancing off of it. Either way all it would take(in my opnion/thought) for the soft armour to stop the bullet. Is for it to physically catch/hold the bullet before the soft armour has the ability to be pushed out the way. Even if the bullet hasn't stopped moving in the horizontal axis as long as the soft armour has a grab on the bullet it shouldn't be able to flop the fabric out the way before it runs out of energy. Cause every bit of movement of that fabric is taking a considerable amount of energy from the bullet.

[@thomasp506]

@@high633 I dunno. Sounds to me that, as the bullet skims along the fabric, it gets redirected into your thigh or something. As the fabric starts to move, the bullet alters its course as well. It won't continue straight, but I don't think loose lightweight fabric would be able to stop the bullet completely. I think it would be pretty similar to getting hit by a ricochet.

[@high633]

@@thomasp506 as i said at a extreme angle id would probably glance off and hit you. But soft ballistic materiel does a pretty good job of grabbing onto projectiles. So i don't see it hitting it and deflecting the fabric and continuing on. Not only cause of the sheer energy loss having to move that mass of fabric. But also cause the fabric would hold onto the bullet. Now something like in john wick 2 where the bullet proof panel is more of like a rubber matt than a stack of fabric. Id be more inclined to believe your thought as that material doesn't grab the bullet like we are used to knowing/seeing it seemed to more cold stop it. So it just sat on the surface of the panel.

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

@@high633 It looked like, depending on how low (away from the axle of rotation) the bullet hits, it imparts a pretty big rotational force and you could get smacked in your ribs with the jacket-armor lower edge. I still think it will hurt less than a soft-armor worn on the body.

[@DTredecim]

I really appreciate Taesty acting like she doesn't understand how body armor works so you can explain it to us. EDIT: Corrected the spelling on her name.

[@RedHair651]

Yeah, I'd have too much ego for that

[@GearboxEnt]

*Taesty

[@AndrewDembouski]

Her pretending to be impressed by the armor when he cut it out, “wow 😐 so cool 🫤”

[@nobiazcustomsinc5030]

RIGHT get this woman a award lol

[@SebastianSipos]

@@AndrewDembouski :))

[@TheDrinkMoxie]

Kyle if you try this again please go Full Mythbusters and put some ballistic gel and organs behind the shielding to see what real world damage was negated or registered

[@alexgaudette988]

Demolition Ranch has a video like that. Much less sciency though

[@jooei2810]

Demolition Ranch does not need science!

[@daftnut022]

Also, if it would stay in your hand

[@bombomos]

Most definitely

[@9unslin9er]

You wouldn't be able to capture real world "damage" from ballistic gel that is covered with soft kevlar panels (or hard plates/polyethylene). There are no organs to rupture and no bones to break. It would be like punching a block of gel. It just wiggles around. If you want visual demonstration of body trauma, I recommend any of Paul Harrell's high tech meat target tests.

[@nisqhog2881]

So weird seeing this back to back with the Hacksmith's own take on the topic haha Can't complain, never enough John Wick haha

[@THEJPIndustry]

I mean hacksmiths got sponsored 100% so i am pretty sure kyle got sponsored too, so yeahtheyboth judt got sponsored to do tjat at the same time to increase the hype sround john wick chapter 4 I mean i dont mindwe got cooö videos from it

[@AlmostSickBoy]

I'm just generally upset by Teastys reaction to bulletholes. WOW! SO EXCITING! UNBELIEVABLE! Damn girl, you are dealing guns more than one day to be so excited by bloody bullet hole.

[@boyden1987]

Don't forget Garand Thumb for some more John Wick

[@supra1jzed]

@@AlmostSickBoy Most of us are the opposite. That shows some seriously chill vibes. It's for the video for the people who know nothing about the topic. The video, her, or those around her have absolutely nothing to gain by showing off their large amounts of knowledge.

[@Paul-pf1ng]

We need a science jesus, ak jesus, and streamer jesus crossover asap

[@barrybend7189]

Add Gun Jesus from forgotten weapons then it's a deal.

[@cracker98]

science is too woke for "Ak jesus"

[@aziouss2863]

@@cracker98 What? the dude a gun smith...You think science doesn't go into the act of making guns?

[@thatguy_5240]

​@@cracker98 wut lol. I think Kyle and Brandon have different views, but they're both smart enough to be able to put that aside and just have fun shooting guns. Brandon even made a video with a staunchly anti-gun youtuber, and they're the ones that fucked him over

[@jordanthecommander6977]

​@@cracker98 Just because someone is conservative doesn't mean they don't like science

[@pixelpancakes489]

Remember kids! Nothing is bulletproof if the bullet is fast enough!

[@foty8679]

Nothing is bulletproof, everything is bullet resistent up to X

[@HelpFromAbove1]

Additionally, with soft armor, you might not be penetrated, but that really doesn't matter when your sternum meets your spine.

[@cravinghibiscus7901]

sounds like you just need to lower that relative speed by running away from the bullet.

[@AyarARJ]

Sandbags laugh at fast bullets. Arrows laugh at overconfident sandbags. Slower bullets listen and learn.

[@kiwik2951]

Unless you can run at over 200 mph, it’s negligible

[@FNPetersen]

I'd like to see this "hanging cape" test done with the Hacksmith suit, with all the controls Hacksmith used for their weave testing.

[@DrewTrox]

One of my favorite parts in John Wick is when he takes his jacket and vest off and you hear the rain of spent bullets.

[@H1DDENASSASSIN]

I love how Tasty is pretending not to know more about all of this than Kyle😂

[@boxie13]

A remarkably good sport lol

[@kiwik2951]

Such a lady 😍

[@caleb8659]

The biggest advantage to holding it off, it's not pushing the armor against you imparting the energy into you through the armor, the flex of the clothing absorbs and disperses that impact, so you won't have bruised/cracked ribs.

[@ltpinecone]

It is wild how this video came out right after hacksmith made a john wick suit that is bullet resistant.

[@AristophMarloque]

I mean...they're dropping content about John Wick at the same time because John Wick 4 just released. Lots of creators would be doing John Wick related content right about now to capitalize on its hype and popularity. It's not that weird.

[@the_redpyro4906]

@@AristophMarloque Hacksmith actually had been working on their project for a roughly a year before they got to a point they could make a video out of. It's more of a coincidence that it lines up so well.

[@namenloss730]

The problem with the john wick scene is that his body armor is too flexible. It's like thick cloth. I believe the bullets would either be deflected or push aside the armor

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Really depends on how much it can catch the shot and why its flexible - if its one of those materials that reacts to high energy impacts by turning more solid as part of dealing with the impact or has very hard outer layers it may well get pushed aside or deflect the shot, though that isn't what the suit appears like. On the other hand if it is just flexible hard to penetrate fibres then the armour will ripple as its folds around the bullet, almost certainly catching the bullet in the process while turning the entire flexible armour sheet into its own personal drag source, all that air to displace. In which case it may well not push the armour aside much and certainly won't be deflecting the shot.

[@coachvice1657]

If the armor is soft it won't deflect anything. Soft armor is meant to absorb, plates deflect

[@MrBottlecapBill]

IT's television..........he'd be full of holes in seconds in reality. There is no flexible armour like that capable of stopping anything but the smallest lest powerful rounds and you're still going to feel every one of them. Even the stuff they used in this video is pretty stiff, you can't make a suit out of it.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

@@MrBottlecapBill Tell that to the Hacksmith team... Feel the shots certainly - the physics can't be denyied - the energy had to go somewhere. But able to stop the shot from common handgun and the lower end SMG/Rifle cartridges penetrating with form fitting and flexibility of the formal suit has been done well enough by the Hacksmith team to prove its plausible!

[@Hoshino_szr]

@@MrBottlecapBill I mean I'm sure the world's most powerful super secret criminal organization could afford to fund the creation of bulletproof suits for their assassins. Plus, another youtuber already made one

[@theobsessedgrimreaper7909]

Iirc Hacksmith Industries has made a real life John Wick suit

[@whyman8440]

Was just about to comment that. nice

[@ravenite-void]

Yea! Thought it would appear here

[@captiannemo]

@KyleHill should ask to see if he can borrow the suit to see if it can do the hold up the jacket trick

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

I remember a manufacturer of somewhat large laptop case that had level four armor plates sewn into it. It was able to stop even armor-piercing ammunition, but it weighed nearly 14 lb.

[@whitestarlinegoodnight]

Talk about a "firewall"

[@Voc_spooksauce]

Now tanks can finally look fancy

[@clarencetse]

The wearer will have to do some Rock Lee weight training lmao

[@ertai222]

Not very practical

[@eacalvert]

Love the end where Tastey says until next and does the fake gun and Kyle just sighs and hangs his head

[@GTAVictor9128]

She's sassy

[@adamfabing8250]

Taesty did a great job at pretending to be surprised.

[@alextran93]

Hey Kyle. Great video! I do have to correct you on your use of the term "high caliber". The term "Caliber" is used to refer to the diameter of the bullet. In this video, you had referred to the AR as a high caliber, compared to the handgun. The typical AR-15 fires a .223 caliber (5.56mm) projectile, and the AR-10 fires a .308 caliber (7.62mm) projectile. The handgun used in the video fires a 9mm projectile, which is equivalent to .380 caliber. So in regards to "caliber", the diameter of the bullet, the 9mm handgun is a higher caliber. Granted, the AR rifle does have a smaller caliber projectile, but it has a much higher velocity (over 3,200 fps for .223 and between 2,500-2,800 fps for .308) compared to the typical 9mm handgun (around 1,200 fps). Higher velocity projects do a much better job at armor penetration, which is one of the main selling points of the specialized round, 5.7mm, which is commonly used in the FN 5.7 handgun, as well as the FN P90, which has a velocity of 2,350 fps

[@valkarath]

The way I like to describe caliber to people is .50 BMG vs .50AE. Both are 50 caliber (.50 of an in inch) but you would never be able to shoot a BMG out of a AE

[@Doodlebob563]

When I heard it I immediately started scrolling to find this exact comment lol

[@Razor-gx2dq]

Just what I was looking for.

[@Angl0sax0nknight]

Don’t think the 5.7x28 is going that fast out of a pistol but definitely out of the p90. Length does matter with bullets.

[@valkarath]

@Angl0sax0nknight ammo companies love to just not show what the barrel length was when they tested the velocity, so wouldn't fault them for just googling it. Like my winchester varmint x advertises 3200 fps put of a 22 inch barrel but for ballistics card I have to use the 2659 fps that I chronod myself out of my 16 inch barrel. Lots of forums out there that talk about this issue

[@corvid-1950]

Obviously haven't watched the video yet, but might this have any relation to the recent Hacksmith video? A bit into it, probably more related to the new John Wick movie lol

[@F_the_G]

I think it's a coincidence of both KZbinrs using a popular topic. A video like this doesn't only take a few days prep

[@corvid-1950]

@@F_the_G Oh yeah I know, I was more wondering if it was going to be a collab Realized about halfway it definitely wasn't, hence the second sentence

[@rubenp8320]

one thing some forget is how much the damned thing weighs with a full combat load. I think all together it was around 25lbs for a small vest. that includes front back, side plates, the kevlar, and ammo. not including my medical stuff. I lost an inch in height and made me weigh 185ish in full combat kit and helmet. now running around with that and wearing it for a year is exhausting sometimes. Great video and keep up the good work my man! Edit: could be up to 35lbs+ as its been 12 years since i last deployed in full combat load. not including aidbag and extras. also for steel core 7.62 you needed a extra layer of steel. so add another 10llbs for combat plates.

[@Faedz]

This was something i thought about too but was surprised to find out about soft armor in this video. Thought it was exclusively ceramic and metal plates

[@lifefindsaway7875]

However much it weighs. Armor will have less impact on your mobility and will be easier to carry if it’s close to your center of gravity. (I.e. wear it) But if it’s up against your body, your body then has to deform to match the plate as it catches the bullet

[@Angl0sax0nknight]

Soft armor doesn’t weight that much. Steel plates and carrier could easily. The problem with a suit is where is the armor. Think John Wick they were representing the entire suit was bulletproof. That’s going to limit mobility soft armor has some girth..

[@rubenp8320]

@@Faedz never heard of it before and i thought it was so cool as well!

[@rubenp8320]

@@lifefindsaway7875 very true thank you. i always wore small cause size but damn did it feel fitted. only downside is dealing with the blunt force trauma underneath and the smaller protection area. cardiac temponade is when the pericardium(sack around the heart) is bruised and fills with fluid. its a pain n half to recognize after all the adrenaline. so him walking around for a bit after getting shot makes sense. but his bp would equalize and his heart will fail from the stress.

[@Fiery25123]

I'm happy we got to see Tasty again! She's so cool! And yeah, credit to Wick's smarts that he knew NOT to use that armor against high-velocity rounds.

[@kepofshangri-la8942]

Hey Kyle, fun fact: Body armour that uses a metal plate is becoming increasingly unpopular as a result of how the bullet splays out when impacting the plate. It's generally acknowledged nowadays that there is a chance that fragments of the bullet can spray into softer areas of the body, such as your legs, chin, or neck. The contemporary norm for hard body armor is ceramic given that it's brittleness can catch the bullet better.

[@Ephem13]

This idea is a bit misleading. Both steel and ceramic armor will cause spalling. You need a coating that can catch the bullet fragments. For reference, I don't know of any ceramic armors that are uncoated. Oddly, the plate is too prone to cracking under normal use without it. Some people still make uncoated steel armor because some plate carriers also work as a spalling catch. Some plate carriers are level IIIA without a plate.

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

Matt at DemoRanch tested a couple of armor plates in his last video and the results with some calibers were interesting. Stopped the bullet but spalling was rather troublesome.

[@Ephem13]

@Le Trepidant it can be very problematic.

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

@@Ephem13 Yeap, the test results reminded me of what happened to Scott from KB.

[@Ephem13]

@Le Trepidant I currently have level IV coated steel in a carrier that is also supposed to catch spalling. The top priority is never needing it, of course, but why throw the dice, right?

[@usonumabeach300]

Really cool seeing Clover Valley Thor in the same place a couple of my favorite guntubers have been. It's almost the crossover I never knew I wanted! I don't have the slightest clue what relevance could be shared, but to see Kyle working with James Reeves of TFBTV would be awesome. On a side note, just wanted to point out that the 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington cartridges used in a vast majority of AR platforms, while easily more powerful than almost any (but not all) handgun cartridges (roughly 3 times the energy of the 9mm in the video), it's not even close to what is classified as a full-powered rifle round. In fact it's classified as an intermediate cartridge, and is towards the lower end of said classification. A .308 Winchester/7.62x51mm NATO is almost 3 times as powerful as the 5.56, and it too is towards the lower end of full power cartridges. Defeating body armor is best accomplished with small diameter, high velocity. This is why you see 5.7 and 4.6mm cartridges being adopted by militaries and police swat teams. The flipside of the armor piercing coin is that they do comparatively little damage to soft tissue, such as unarmored targets or once through armor. And make no mistake, the trauma one can receive from even projectiles defeated by armor, especially soft armors, can still easily be lethal, and extremely often incapacitating. If someone wearing body armor, even hard, is shot with full power rifle cartridges or shotgun shells, it WILL hurt, and very likely knock said person down, which then makes them easy targets for shots to unarmored areas, or follow up shots that will quickly compromise and defeat the armor. P.S. I loved the almost "(because) Science!"

[@willfrankunsubscribed]

A test often done by guntubers and armor manufacturers is using a clay block as simulated tissue, to record the deformation of the blunt force the bullet imparts, even through the armor. I would love to have something like this in these tests - a control with the jacket and armor against the body, and against with the jacket and armor out away from the body.

[@captaindagonsworldoffunstuff]

So a stay puft suit made out of kevlar could be a very viable armor choice for low speed rounds

[@VoltisArt]

Internal padding below hardened armor is a well-tested idea. Gambeson goes back at least 1600 years.

[@captaindagonsworldoffunstuff]

@@VoltisArt Lets bring it back!

[@taronzgaming7739]

I mean... what you were testing is a shield. A shield for bullets admittedly, but using some form of bullet resistant material as a shield I'd have to assume would be better than just being shot, even with vest just because you've moved the impact away from your squishy bits.

[@JoshuaBenitezNewOrleans]

John Wick, Kyle Hill, ARIA, and science on a Saturday. Hell yeah

[@CameronBCasey]

I'm so proud of you Kyle. Usually when people leave company's due to poor treatment they fade away and don't create anymore. You're amazing and I love your content

[@jimi320]

Love the test. Not just his jacket but his vest as well, and pants were all tactical. Would a second layer next to the body help with the ar round?

[@khadenallast4495]

Two layers won't be enough to slow the round down significantly enough to catch it. That said, it will somewhat depend on the type of ammo used. A fragmenting 55gr round will be stopped by fewer layers than a 62gr with a steel penetrator - not that a mere two layers will be useful against either.

[@JWY1993]

Yes and no. You could theoretically stack enough layers, but the suit would be so bulky that it would defeat the purpose of being incognito. Generally, ceramic plates are used for stopping rifle fire. Rifle rounds are much stronger than pistol rounds. This is because rifle rounds are going supersonic, but pistol rounds are generally sub-sonic. F=M × (A^2). So, if you double the mass, you double the force. If you double the speed, you quadruple it.

[@arthurrosa9403]

@@khadenallast4495 It usually spin out after the first layer, so it would be significantly more effective in multiple layers. But even it it sstopped, the force would crush the body beneath it.

[@Rafael_Fuchs]

As Arthur mentioned, trying to stop a rifle bullet would be mostly pointless using soft armor. They have so much more energy. You'll be in for a bad time unless the force is spread out over a larger area.

[@rayvee2837]

He is soo fast, lets just say the film take place in a different world where these type of armors exist, maybe the government have it but they never reveal it, imagine if we had access to them, crime would be much more easier. The 90s LA bank robbers were wearing massive ass layers of armor making them slow, they absorbed a shit ton of bullets, literally a two men army

[@nathandanner4030]

It makes alot of sense hholding the fabric out would help. Another channel hehre on KZbin did some testing on using trees for cover and determined that standing between 1-2 feet away from the tree that you are using is better then leaning against the tree for all but the lagest calibers. Even a .50 cal was significantly effected by a moderately sized tree trunk (1-2 ft in dia).

[@VitaeLibra]

*Hacksmith Industries has entered the chat*

[@randizzle7659]

I started looking up on YT last night what happened to you because I dont get recommended videos from you anymore. So glad to see this

[@quincylewis8819]

So glad someone I trust is looking into this!! Also, your hair is glorious.

[@Aius-]

The soft padding looks like easily tearable foam padding, especially up close, I used to work with furniture wrapped in that stuff and wondered why the 9mm plate looked so meek.

[@117pospisil]

this needs to be collaboration with hacksmith

[@jstormy8168]

I like how you talked about the advantages that the tactic would have which is neat since people contort their bodies as well to hopefully not get hit.

[@Gyrfalcon312]

Whew! No spoilers for _John Wick 4_ beyond what I've seen in trailers, just some fun science behind one of the scenes. Thanks, dude!

[@CaedmonOS]

I think it's hilarious that you and the hacksmith both decided to make a video on John wick's suit at the same time

[@EliotHochberg]

Definitely seems like this tactic in some ways is actually better than wearing body armor on your body. This also gives new life to Batman‘s cape, which, if you think about it is the older version of the same tactic.

[@V3RTIGO222]

So honestly having standoff distance is great for armor, some aired vehicles and tanks use spaced armor to disperse the energy of projectiles between armored plates... The issue is having airgaps requires a lot of *space* (unsurprisingly) which results in a lot of bulk, and for personal armor that's a big problem. I honestly was thinking that hitting a loosely hanging armor plate might allow the bullet to roll around the edge by pushing the armor out of the way and still hit the person with very lethal energy. However, this would be a fantastic tactic against highly energetic rounds with lower penetration but lethal blackface deformation on soft armor (like shotgun slugs and magnum pistol rounds). This was honestly super cool to watch cause this is a very niche use of armor, and legit makes an armored cloak seem like a really cool idea.

[@michaelcookfilm]

Appreciated the John Wick style subtitles

[@gamebugfinder]

I thinking it might be useful on higher calibers as well potentially like a Whipple shield at least if the cape is capable of deforming or shattering the bullet in some way and then onto body armor

[@alexgaudette988]

Depends on the round. It'd probably work for most pistol calibers but once you shoot that soft armor with a rifle round it's going through

[@boeubanks7507]

The question I have is what rating body armor are you using? If you are using 3 or 3A rated, the AR round should go through.

[@smokeyninja9920]

It says on the panel they shot with the AR that it's 3A, and indeed at 10:09 you can see that the panel did not stop the rifle round

[@boeubanks7507]

@Smokeyninja So, that basically makes the second part of the test invalid. You aren't going to get usable results using derated armor for the application. The argument can be made that 4 or 4A armor is too heavy or bulky for what we see. However, we don't even get to that question because you didn't properly test the base parameter.

[@shadowldrago]

"Tasty Danger" is a badass name.

[@DanielRieger]

This episode got some Mythbusters vibe to it, awesome work

[@jamesroad316]

Thanks for giving wick's enemies' the weakness of his suit

[@Lucasfgrangeiro]

The principle for holding the vest outwards makes some sense, 9mm bullets are relativity low velocity, there for the area of effect is higher so the vest being free to swing will actually increase the distance of deceleration of the bullet, increasing the vests effectiveness. Sort of the same principle was used my samurais using the horo on horseback to protect themselves again arrows. Best regards from Brazil

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

Excellent and interesting video, Kyle. Nice to see Taesty back in the show. Cheers.

[@coreykimbler5188]

I don't watch as often as I used to but I still love your videos.

[@arthurcamargo8416]

Great video! Was wondering if we would ever see Taesty again! She, once again, displays the kind of expertise and accuracy required for the experiment!

[@Alasswolf]

Gotta watch the movies someday Hacksmith Ind too made a video about that, they made a vest if I'm not wrong

[@DavidGossettMusic]

Yup, and it worked surprisingly well.

[@Dynasty1k]

This was the collab we didnt know we needed!!!

[@ankokuraven]

awesome video kyle!

[@doaimanariroll5121]

Ancient Japanese soldiers used to have a silk cape that ballooned out like a parachutes when riding on horseback back, the silk combined with the cushioning effect was enough to deflect and entangle arrows.

[@SchwhatNow]

It was called a Horo and small correction but only high ranking Samurai were allowed to wear them since the Horo also had identifying marks to signal their ranking.

[@goldman77700]

@SchwhatNow The Horo sounds expensive/luxurious, so that sounds about right. Also, Revan for life.🫡

[@lucentwolf]

I thought it was a co-op video with Hacksmith with the suit they just made XD

[@brandonkuiper7754]

Love this one! And I gotta say Tasty seems like a dope human!

[@jonomate]

Awesome episode, and looked like a lot of fun.

[@dr.remerb8011]

There was one major oversight. Ankering the soft armor away from your body (depending on where you hit in relation to the anker) could actually end up redirecting the projectile and in john wicks scenario, cause the bullet to travel along the armor and hit in the lower torso/stomach area. This however can be delt with by increasing the overall weight of the target are with e.g. a tungsten lining along the back of the armor to a point where the gravitational force is equal or greater than the force that is transferred by the the bullet into the armor. It would also end up helping the rigidity of the armor decrease the amout of deformation seen on the soft armor. Bear in mind that with higher velocity rounds like 223. It would most likely increase the chance of penetration.

[@AlitaGunm99]

I would have thought to too, but notice the one 9mm shot right at the edge of the armor; it was completely stopped right where it hit, and didn't slide or deflect.

[@dr.remerb8011]

@@AlitaGunm99 that's because a huge chunk of energy was actually absorbed by the hard surface (steel-target) as the armor made contact with the stand. Soft body armor like Kevlar actually doesn't really "stop" bullets (in its track) as much as it hinders the projectile from cutting a surface. If you were to shoot a square of Kevlar a 9mm would throw it back quite the distance and you wouldn't see that much deformation of the slug. So if ther wastn a hard surface removing energy from the projectile more energy would need to be stopped by the armor and in that case slipping out the side would probably be the path of least resistance.

[@angrydragonslayer]

bought a really fancy suit when i was consulting extra snobby people (worked wonders btw) and was wondering why it was so heavy that i had a hard time moving before tailoring The entire suit was level 3 (armpits, front of elbows and back of knees were 3A when fully stretched to make it easier to move) with inserts to make the torso level 4 being available for ~$1200 iirc (which i did buy, thinking they were for keeping it straight in storage)

[@CanadianWolverine]

Garrison Bespoke client? Those go for well over $20 000 IIRC.

[@angrydragonslayer]

@@CanadianWolverine it was a french company without a social media presence who gave me a rebate because i'm a big boy (213 cm, 173 kg, 11% bfat, measured earlier today) and thus could actually wear the level 3 suit and walk around normally Anyway, it's not them but you're in the right ballpark on price, it's a while back but after rebate, i think i paid ~28k for the suit, ~3k for the tailoring and then the inserts. I can't say for sure but i think it and my manners were the determining factors in getting some contracts and besides, who'd wear out a kevlar suit? It still looks brand new today, 7 years later.

[@dansacco1964]

Reminds me of the old samurai silk cape stopping arrows while riding. Throwing a ball at a hanging sheet or towel really demonstrates how much energy it can dissipate.

[@comfortablegrey]

I love how they shot the suit, good science always has a control.

[@Miles614]

I question if the body armor was rated for rifle caliber rounds. It just went through to easily which makes me believe it is probably intended for handgun caliber rounds only. Still really cool!

[@IIKnucklesII]

Rated 3a which is only for handguns and not even all handgun rounds would be stopped. You would need a Lvl4 Ceramic plate to stop a 5.56x45/.223. "Level3+" armors aren't rated by the NIJ so it's not a reliable example.

[@Miles614]

@@IIKnucklesII I had my suspicions I appreciate your clarification!

[@memeier9894]

​@@IIKnucklesII lvl 3 will stop up to 308 AP... you don't need lvl 4 until your trying to stop 300 win mag.

[@IIKnucklesII]

@@memeier9894 KZbin won't let me reply with the links, but you can look up the NIJ Ratings yourself or I could message them to you. Lv3 will stop 308 Ball Ammo, but not 30cal AP. There are 4 videos I found within a minute or two of M193 punching through Lv3 armors, one of which was only using a 16in barrel, I can also message you those if you like.

[@memeier9894]

@@IIKnucklesII sorry 3 is 7.62 ball and 3+ is 308 AP, but lvl 4 isn't needed for 223/5.56 Lvl 3 is fine for 5.56, lvl 3+ is obviously better, and lvl 4 is even better than that, but each one progressively gets heavier than the last, and in my opinion lvl 4 just generally isn't needed.

[@Azrael713]

Kyle and Garand Thumb crossover would be great. So much science to be had with weird ballistic magic.

[@grapy83]

Now that's science! Thank you Kyle

[@Sock66]

I wonder how many outtakes are there of Kyle saying "Why? Because Science!" Thats gotta be a hard habit to break!!

[@chrisreilly1290]

I remember when halo 5 trailer came out, chief was wearing a cloak. Someone inferred that it may be a ballistic curtain which in some ways is better than about right against your body. The curtain has more deformation and area to transfer the kinetic energy of the bullet to potentially some cloth being pushed around. Kind of like a net you would hit a baseball into at a batting range.

[@aziouss2863]

What bout the force exerted on the arm?

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

My question as well.

[@baseballjustin5]

I loved watching Keanu's 3 gun training.

[@justinhemsath9207]

I've got the same Leatherman. I love it!

[@SeveredEternity]

It's werid seeing the science behind it, I'm used to people just shooting the armour and seeing what happens Edit: this video is pure gold 😂

[@Tarumarugan]

Let’s just all take a moment to appreciate the name “Taesty Danger” whether it’s her government name or stage persona is irrelevant in this case.

[@realdealoneill69420]

gotta admit kyle, that scrunchy looks good on you brada! thanks for this field test!

[@carlitofisher]

Cool. I saw batman before using his cape to stop bullets like that and always wondered whether this will work. ❤

[@aniyahfrazier2918]

(Minor Spoilers for John Wick 4) I just wanted to bring up that in the latest movie, the suits, when struck by bullets, often spark, implying that whatever material is used to stop the momentum is metallic in some way or form. I would also love to see a test like this using a suit from a company like Garrison, though those suits are incredibly expensive.

[@caitlynhorne1661]

I'd love to see what happens if Kyle were to pay a visit to Hacksmith Industries, or the Hacksmith crew to The Facility - their respective videos on the suit say everything about why.

[@yourzombiewife]

Lookin good in a plate carrier fella.

[@Sr.DudeGuy]

To those who care, hello and have a good day! 👋❤

[@Extremist-MAGA-gamer]

Love the gun stuff... protecting one's self is a very good thing

[@justsomeguy6336]

I feel bad for Tasty’s significant other. She’s a straight up assassin.

[@jasonflay8818]

'Science, it's always science' as you turn with your magnificent man mane flowing in the breeze *chefs kiss*.

[@tenzhitihsien888]

Taesty is a great guest. Hope you find reasons to invite her back. She comes across as polished, professional, and yet still very affable.

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

I do love how you're basically just going full Mythbusters now.

[@BDWANNEMACHER]

Great video, I stayed all the way to the end expecting a movie style after credit sequence lol

[@julian4868]

the chemistry between Kyle and Taesty is so good, it almost seems too natural 🤔 you guys are hilarious together!

[@jaylong4705]

Wait a minute ..I just watched a sweet video and I learned new things. You tricked me into learning!

[@behema9815]

Expected someone to do this soon, but not you or this quickly. Very impressive dude

[@vanconojl]

and the Hacksmith made a john wick suit vid too! what a day

[@symphony_baritone]

Just saw John Wick in IMAX. Thank you Kyle for the science.

[@DaveB432]

Kyle's hair/mane is glorious!

[@pontythython1901]

I love how wacky and goofy they both are. They really seem to work off of each other making each other more silly. Self perpetuating silliness. This is a good thing. High entertainment value. 👍

[@sparkle1596]

this video is amazing!!

[@Gamesaucer]

This reminds me of the curtains we use to catch missed arrows at my archery range, when practicing outside. I think if you were to pull a piece of fabric taut, an arrow from a typical recurve bow would damage it quite a bit, and a compound bow arrow would probably go straight through. But because it's hanging freely, it moves when the arrow strikes it, which allows more contact for longer, thus slowing the arrow down a lot more. It's not a normal curtain, but it's not using any particularly special materials. And yet I've never seen it sustain any significant damage from being struck by an arrow. In effect, this is just the principle at work that if you don't want to break, you sometimes have to bend. And I guess that has some effect even on bullets.

[@Amanda-C.]

Major Mythbusters vibes. That's a compliment.

[@CaioBoaMorte]

The deformation of the plate on the lower velocity round remind me of stopping power in the nuclear fisics, like you explain in the bugorski incident video. If the round pass too quickly(too much energetic), it doesn't deposits its energy(deform). Its a great pratical analogy.

[@WingManFang1]

Yo this was awesome 👏 I miss going to the range but this was crazy cool and I learned a thing or two.

[@bghiggy]

Should have used a UHMWPE plate under the vest to see what the combination of soft armor for slowing the round down and the hard plate to catch it

[@xKhfan213x]

As a great of an experiment as this is, I would be fascinated to learn what would happen to the hand holding the "cape." With such a great force, I could see it either just ripping the cape out of or just mutilation of the hand. As great as surviving might be, it would be fascinating to learn the damage your would possibly receive from such an impact

[@thegadjet8249]

Yes Thank you. This was what I wanted to watch from You. Thanks^^