Testing LCBs (Lithium Ceramic Batteries) || The Future of Battery Technology?

[@voltlog]

wow the safety aspect on that lcb battery is excellent, cutting a battery while it's running? you wouldn't dream doing this with another type of battery.

[@sfsaviation]

VoltLog imagine a lithium battery

[@snjert8406]

@@sfsaviation those are all lithium batteries. They are just different types, like lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

[@Kyle17206]

I think with more research to improve the technology that this will end up being the next generation of batteries. They are much safer than the batteries we have today. Especially with the rise of electric vehicles, I think this technology has great potential if it had some more research for improvement.

[@melgibson6331]

I would cut a salt water battery in half and drink any that spills 😋

[@3DRiley_]

@@Kyle17206 Someone correct me if I'm wrong but commercial electric road vehicles use othe types of rechargeable batteries because Li ones are a fire hazard and safety concern. Sure Li anything ones are used in forklifts etc but just imagine having one of these in your car, even a slight crash can cause a really bad and big metal fire Edit: I was a idiot of course road vehicles use Li batteries.

[@domino52o26]

This technology is several years old now but it never gets old seeing these types of cells getting cut while continuing to power Leds and not going thermonuclear.

[@swedneck]

Martin Bennett it still helps that they don't have fluids or semifluids that can explode everywhere.

[@Evildandalo]

This technology makes me fear for the bullet resistant lithium batteries in whatever terminators Elon Musk cooks up by 2050 lol

[@the44thcosmic_galaxy25]

How did I not know about this? 🤤

[@domino52o26]

@@the44thcosmic_galaxy25 Some people watch a lot, probably too many, documentaries, which was where i learned about it a couple years ago, and it was already a several year old doc.

[@melgibson6331]

Look up salt water batterys....you can drink the fluid out of it while its running a light.

[@nicolocatanese3477]

They removed my favorite feature of li po batteries the explosion

[@user-tm3fz7qx3s]

Have fun

[@paulziem7969]

bruuuuhhh, lol

[@mickwolf1077]

They go off hey? Sometimes take off 😂

[@MakuKRC]

Are you from samsung?

[@josephhacker6508]

It's a feature.

[@Skaytacium]

something : exists Scott : *_H I G H L I G H T_*

[@lukmly013]

At school: Highlight the important text 2 minutes later: Green paper

[@rafvanrompaey3791]

Its "leviosa" not "ceramic"

[@LumaControl]

leviosar

[@napalmjack]

Keramic

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

@@napalmjack as if any name could be more german than "reichert"...

[@forbiddenera]

Sir A Mic..sounds like a bad rapper

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

@@forbiddenera "Sir A Mic..sounds like a bad rapper" says "IdealSound & Performance" :P

[@Lagggerengineering]

6:15 Why did you not recharge it? See how much capacity remains, see if and how it was damaged and so on! Do not pass this opportunity on a new technology, it might prove very long lasting unlike the others!

[@adymode]

lion and lipo batteries are commonly shipped completely discharged and sometimes advised to be stored in that state to preserve lifetime. Ive seen some demos of shorting them flat (no protection) and recharged with no noticeable problem. edit - correction: some old manufacturers advice to store Li-ons nominally flat (0% SOC), not actually discharged. The following posts establish Ideal SOC for storage is about 40%. The general point Im supporting, including a link, is that very drained Li-on batteries may be completely recoverable, especially if not left for long in that state.

[@Lagggerengineering]

Yes, I know. We all know that happens, but I am asking about these new ceramic batteries. How do they hold up with that?

[@adymode]

More people think it is a big problem - thats why GreatScott disguarded them.

[@Lagggerengineering]

@@adymode I know. I work with batteries as a hobbyist. I still have some very old fully charged cells laying around, fully charged and they have little to degrading in capacity. The problem lies in recharging. When you recharge or discharge a battery is the time where it is under the most stress and thus slowly degrades. This might be completely mitigated when we use solid electrolyte batteries. But we won't know unless somebody tests it! We need to know if we are to power the mobile world with battery power. Phones, cars, heaters, you name it. All are very susceptible to combustion if under extreme stress. This could be solved by a solid electrolyte battery. When batteries like this were announced I was extremely sceptical. I didn't believe that to be possible. Frankly the electrolyte material is different than from what I have been told, but I digress. You can't even imagine my excitement for the new technology. Devices will finally be able to have safe batteries, I am not talking about just the Galaxy Note 7 fiasco, but many more devices that are supposed to last a long time and be reliable.

[@tehserenity]

wtf? li-ion normally stored with 60..70% charged.

[@dj_paultuk7052]

More smoke than a typical BigClive video. Excellent !.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

mwalsher IKR 🙃🙃🙁🙁👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Krisztian5HUN]

go watch some diodegonewild for even more salt!

[@rumahhafidzahbekasi1354]

3 smokiest electronic youtubers 1.diodegonewild 2.electroboom 3bigclive SPECIAL:greatscoot

[@lowercase_]

Did GreatScott mentioned that he didn't like BigClive's video format? I know this has nothing to do with the comment but since you mentioned clive here in scott's comment section.

[@rumahhafidzahbekasi1354]

@@lowercase_ yeah. I know but sometimes he create a lot of smoke almost in all battres that he made. And also i include him becouse it looks dramatic.

[@Afrotechmods]

New microphone? It sounds good

[@rumahhafidzahbekasi1354]

"New mocrophone?" No. This is patric

[@DMion_Coding]

I really love your channel! keep up with the good work!

[@broshdrew]

So when’s your next video

[@rumahhafidzahbekasi1354]

The first 3 peapole who reply to this comment 1.Me 2.Brandon bruke 3.DMion

[@uK8cvPAq]

Make new videos you lazy bum.

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

Very nice. Looks like a safe alternative to LiPo batteries. Let's hope they will become more powerful !

[@quarksamurai6101]

epSos.de i agree

[@johnolson2216]

Just make em fatter???

[@cantkeepitin]

LIPO is giving you much more current, so it is no direct replacement.

[@Antonis.Papageorgiou]

I think the fact that they are safe is that they lack the power capacity of the LiPo

[@nathanmead140]

But without getting dangerous

[@Ryukachoo]

Damn, I knew these things were safe, but even the gnarliest stuff doesn't even phase them

[@Alex-sc6yy]

It's not ceramic it's ceramic

[@gunnerkobra]

underrated post

[@SolarWebsite]

Are you sure?

[@Nicksperiments]

No it’s ceramic

[@Krisztian5HUN]

Its not Dick its Duck!!

[@eskisful]

No! This is Patrick!

[@deadbird99]

oooooh I now desperately want these ^^ One question though: once overcharged/overdischarged/short circuited/cut/punctured, do they charge again?

[@greatscottlab]

Well, when cut/punctured I would definitely not recharge them. WIth all the other scenarios, there is a chance that the battery could still work. But I would replace it (my opinion).

[@deadbird99]

Can you safely do the test? At least for science?

[@R3MIXMODZ]

Bro why does it say edited 3 days ago if this video just came out!?!?

[@jayzo]

R3MIX MODZ Patreon early access I presume.

[@zygfrydmierzwinski6041]

He's time traveller :D

[@Stijn081]

Really impressive. I hope they can raise the energy density on these, this would definitely make electric cars a whole lot safer. Another argument against the EV naysayers.

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

Thing about EV naysayers is that they argue that gasoline is safer... the same fluid that is volatile and can explode if your gas tank leaks after a crash. It also burns without external assistance like diesel would. A battery, on the other hand, can be designed to spit fire out in a controlled manner similar to hydrogen and natural gas. And once the energy is burned out (rather rapidly, I might add) it’s inert. Gas can pool around first (like underneath you) before catching on fire without warning.

[@hfarthingt]

Could we not use his same calculations as seen in the video and perform a scale multiplier? There would still be significant heat when punctured at the sizes you would need for EV capacitance requirements. We need more data here. Think thermal camera and mechanical trauma device that applies measurable force units.

[@Stijn081]

It'll certainly generate some heat, but it won't be the explosive inferno you get when you puncture a LiPo battery.

[@JesseKreis]

@@BrokenLifeCycle Couple things here. Gasoline is not an explosive. It only explodes when turned into a gas "vapor" (this can only happen with compression or by heating it in a small confined space). If your fuel tank leaks, the gas pours out and is completely free of any compression and will simply burn rapidly. In order for a fuel tank to explode it would need to be almost empty, heated for a long time, and then you'd need to somehow get a spark inside without releasing all the compression and gasoline vapor. You could do this by jamming a sharp file into the tank and the metal scraping would cause a spark, but let's be real, the chance of this happening in a crash is extremely low because there isn't any chance that the fuel can be heated enough to cause the gas to vaporize. Especially since the car is using fuel as it drives which doesn't allow compression in the first place. All you get with an ignited fuel tank leak is usually a small fireball and a rapidly burning car. (This is very serious if the fuel tank leak is large enough to cause a huge pool of gas before it ignites. So don't think I'm neglecting the actual dangers). Currently the batteries they use in EVs are actually explosive, in the way that compressed gas is explosive. You should learn something about gas powered cars before dissing them.

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

Gasoline is a volatile liquid that can soak onto something before catching fire like lamp fuel on a candle wick. And when I said gasoline exploding, I meant when there's a concentrated mix of fuel vapours (due to its volatility) in the air catching on fire (from say, a stray spark from a broken wire) while in a mostly enclosed space (for example, the trunk of a car or the passenger space). Technically, this is unlikely to be a stoichiometric mix, so it's arguably more a deflagration than an explosion (bad wording on my part) but the fact remains. It's a fireball that can happen without warning. Hydrogen and natural gas are also explosive in a sense. However, those can be addressed by relief valves venting and burning in a controlled manner in the event of an accident. Plus, the gasses rise up and diffuse quickly rather than pool in something and allow the vapours to concentrated in a sufficient amount to combust. Batteries exploding can be addressed similarly with controlled venting. With newer battery technologies (like the one in the video), we might not even see this problem. On the topic of me not knowing enough about ICE cars... I've seen enough F1 cars pre-methanol turning into flaming wrecks to be concerned about it in my vehicle. While the risk is much lower because my vehicle won't be going over a hundred MPH and has its fuel tank in a much safer location, the risk still remains niggling in the back of my mind. After all, I don't think my truck has an automatic shutoff to the fuel line running beneath my feet in the event of a crash.

[@nikurasu_tan]

Megumin is disappointed by the ceramic batteries. There ist no EXEPLOSION

[@SMGJohn]

LOL

[@joj.]

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well...

[@YTshashmeera]

Tell her to go watch electroboom Mehdi got some booms in his videos lol

[@scuidthesquid]

drinking game: take a shot everytime he says rather or crude

[@pauhull]

or capacituuur

[@TheHuntermj]

Why you wanna kill me?

[@scuidthesquid]

@@TheHuntermj xD

[@Blue-bf8lv]

*liver failure has joined the chat*

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

Rather Crude!

[@bruperina]

Your accent is getting better each video. Commend you for the effort and persistence.

[@raezad]

Ceramic

[@warpspeedscp]

raezad badduwees.

[@geoffgeoff143]

computer generated voice.

[@m00str]

@@mattikaki nope he is german

[@vincejv]

I like his native accent more tho.

[@filipeoliveira4767]

So they are very safe but they don't fix the current problem of energy density. I can sure imagine them being used on wearables in the future, but that's about it. When it comes to cars and bigger power applications I don't think these will be the way to go

[@greatscottlab]

But think about when there is a car crash. LCBs would be way safer to use.

[@Dinkleberg96]

But they will be a good choice for smartphones in future, due to the safety reasons

[@simplylinn]

Assuming they can be made about as cheap as conventional batteries and that their power output/density can be comparable to regular LiPo/LiIon batteries, they could very much make their way into electrical cars, as not catching fire and/or releasing dangerous fumes is a rather good property to have in the event of a car crash or similar. Of course, that would imply that no new battery technology comes along which outperforms both these new solid state Li batteries and conventional LiPo/LiIon batteries on performance and power density

[@filipeoliveira4767]

@@greatscottlab I agree with you on that. But cars won't sell with lower ranges. I hope these batteries evolve, that would be an amazing improvement to electric car safety. Small ranges and high charging times are two of the things that "stop" electric Cars. I really hope that in time these batteries get a better energy density, but it just isn't easy

[@filipeoliveira4767]

@@simplylinn well for that to happen LCBs have to reach the same energy density as the currently used batteries, in which case I would agree with you. Once again, I really hope it happens, I just don't think that it'll happen soon

[@matthewnoblejordan3555]

Excited about this ceramic battery technology. I use lipo packs in my model aircraft, cars and race drones. I'm sure if this technology is developed further we could have lighter safer battery packs for the hobby. I hope it becomes the replacement for Lipo, which are very picky as far as maintenance dangerous.

[@RizLazey]

2:43 wait what? Continuous discharge up to 650 Amps... You could weld with that lmao

[@sugarbooty]

Not for long...

[@TheGameIsFunny]

Yes for like 30 seconds

[@Steve-uu7yx]

Spot welding anyone?

[@angelorondini5835]

Yeah but only for short time like spot-welding

[@juanpedrolardet2088]

spot weldin still welding! hahaha

[@SustainableGal]

"K'eramic"

[@rovicgabor2485]

*is this what they're going to use in flexible phones*

[@rovicgabor2485]

*???????*

[@rovicgabor2485]

@@Basement-Science well,some companies like samsung has idea of flexible phones.

[@alex-w8p2e]

They would probably break easily if you bend them alot.

[@RenKnight347]

In drones....flexible attack drones!

[@rovicgabor2485]

@@RenKnight347 nah. Its still better in flexible cars if tesla makes it many people will buy it.

[@ecka333]

Nothing was mentioned about battery lifetime: how many times it can be recharged until capacity drops to the certain level? Maybe ceramic lithium battery has lifetime like normal lithium battery?

[@NiHaoMike64]

A good next project would be an Arduino-based device to cycle batteries while tracking capacity every time.

[@kirknay]

This was a basic safety test of the class of battery. Hard stats would probably come later using actual model numbers and corp. names.

[@chengpolun]

It can be cycled for 2000times at 2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge rate, capacity drop (recovery) can be over 80% of original.

[@xenonram]

@@chengpolun "2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge" What is that supposed to mean? Do you mean 2c charge/2C discharge? The 2 hrs statement means nothing. Charging a 100 mAh battery for 2 hrs (at what current?) is completely different than charging a 1500 mAh battery for 2 hrs (again, at what current?). You need something other than time to classify charge/discharge rate.

[@Wok_Agenda]

@@NiHaoMike64 Chinese r/c chargers do that

[@jerry1378]

@5:36 i always replicate your tests at work so no worries :)

[@greatscottlab]

Glad to hear that :-)

[@tanmay______]

I try them at school haha

[@JUANKERR2000]

Nice to hear the rarely encountered correct pronunciation of 'ceramic', thank you.

[@sudipmaity8390]

lcb are so thin wont it be possible to stack 10-20 of them together and get the result of lipo.

[@thegreatoutagesign9204]

That's exactly what the plcb is lol

[@williamnixon4056]

I think cost effectiveness is going to be the determining factor with these types of batteries.

[@neptunez3495]

you know the battery is thin if its literally thinner than the wire

[@trulyinfamous]

I hate being so young, but at the same time, all of this revolutionary technology is fuckin' awesome!

[@HatTrex]

This battery is almost a decade old.

[@MindBodySoulOk]

it's a watch battery

[@DylanDaPickle]

You’re never too young to learn

[@davidlink8454]

Truly Infamous hydrogen batteries hold a charge better and are the future. Ceramic just makes it lighter. In my opinion ceramic will be passed up by science

[@fmpApps]

I remember grads complaining that their degrees in tubes was thrown in the trash can by transistors. I felt like a real genius taking all the tubes out of the tv to the drugstore and testing each until I found the bad one. Now Apple wants to swap out my entire motherboard...

[@jand2315]

What about the number of charge cycles in comparison?

[@technocody9296]

That's going to take a while to get an answer lol

[@ksam2000]

It has been a year. Still no answer lol

[@jeremyanderson6395]

Seeing as the density is roughly the same, my only question is how much of a difference is the cost?

[@adamhale6672]

This is amazing. Thats around the energy density of NiCad batteries, which were the standard not too long ago! Before you know it we will be 3D printing batteries and circuits into our parts.

[@Jack_The_Biker]

Anyone else envious of his perfect handwriting

[@pieceofpotato7883]

they're here already?!!! THAT'S INSANNEEEEE

[@dylanrens2000]

I just saw a video of a channel called "Bright" and they use some of your footage from this video, are you aware of this? I'm saying this here becouse i saw a video of you about another company using your footage without even mentioning you and you weren't happy about that either. The footage is used in their latest video called "hierdoor is je telefoon straks pas na een week leeg" at 1:25. They never mention you in the video itself or in the video description. Maybe you have an agreement with them but if not then I hope this helped.

[@everythingpony]

Link?

[@dylanrens2000]

@@everythingpony kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXHYoSneNGJpLs

[@alext8406]

they have added a link to his channel in the description. Also when his video is showing, a link to it appears in the top right hand corner (if you press the i button).

[@MCsCreations]

That's actually really interesting!!!

[@18lucky17]

bobsagget823 unlike your shit channel

[@davidurdahl6656]

Saw these in their infancy last year. It's definitely a step in the right direction.

[@azazzelx]

Would be hoping for zee batteries to be effectual for commercial production as soon as viable.

[@thedronehorseman4713]

How many charge-discharge cycles can these LCB batteries take compared to Lithium Ions?

[@hercion]

Same question here. I hope that solid electrolyte batteries have way more cycles ?

[@thedronehorseman4713]

hercion I looked up the website, it’s 500 cycles before it drops to 90% capacity.

[@hercion]

@@thedronehorseman4713 that's rather good, isn't it?

[@thedronehorseman4713]

@@hercion If the price is good, I still don’t know the price. They didn’t reply my email.

[@PawanSingh-cq5jl]

⚠️don't try this at home⚠️ Kk I do it outside

[@luminumlx2604]

"Kk" é BR?

[@PawanSingh-cq5jl]

@@luminumlx2604 instant reply but I don't know what to say \:

[@luminumlx2604]

@@PawanSingh-cq5jl "instant reply" 9 hours later

[@JinxCade]

Wow That Word ( *penis* ) Is Sh*t.

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

@waffeltek Are you 9 years old?

[@dmkays]

Batteries are so precious to me that it was painful to watch you destroying them. However, I am impressed with the safety of these new batteries and can think of several applications where their safety would be a huge benefit.

[@harveyh8137]

What lol

[@mwbgaming28]

How much do they cost, how many cycles do you get out of them, and where do i get them from?

[@armor1z]

I saw a documentary from nova about all this new battery tech that's being developed and LCB were one of them. Thanks for the video and testing. I can't wait for this tech to get more advanced, although I don't expect that lithium will be used for too much longer before we discover something else that can surpass it.

[@deepakjoshi6242]

Awesome brother...😍 Keep showing us the new technology... Please...

[@Mr3344555]

@0:40 Ceramic is pronounced Suh-ra-mec. I don't want any bastard making fun of or bothering you for linguistic differences as you already speak 2 languages or even more. Keep up the great work and thank you for this informative video!!!

[@larrythes]

Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the plaster, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

[@haloshadowsnipe3014]

Nuh uh it's Kkkkuurrr ammmiiic

[@stephennganga7499]

oooh, i can see a whole bunch ov interesting tech coming along if this battery works out

[@maybe3392]

Any update on this 4 years later?

[@Malaphor]

I love your hand writing!

[@AtariKafa]

Impressive.....

[@y2jcjy2j7]

Ceramic => (Seramic) not (Keramic) Ahh.heulis heel, lol

[@burningbanana6213]

He's German. We say it like that

[@larrythes]

Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the plaster, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

[@movax20h]

@@burningbanana6213 Interesting. Indeed in german it is with K, and the Greek one is with k. Weird, because in many languages it is with C, not just English. Polish, Spanish, Italian, French, all start with C. I checked few other languages, and it is somehow half C, half K, without not that much patterns.

[@Bagusp97]

in Indonesia, we say "ceramic" with "keramik"

[@SMGJohn]

No, both are correct technically so either are fine, stop being so anal about it look it up in a dictionary.

[@backdoornutzer4461]

I wonder, can this new battery technology be recycled well too?

[@SilvaDreams]

It's over a decade old now, so not exactly new. As for being recycled.. Sort of? It's still lithium and a ceramic dust, the only problem is these batteries are rather weak compared to the common lithium batteries.

[@chaschuky999]

Incredible video these will certainly be extremely important in the future

[@cantkeepitin]

Great video, much better than dozens of other videos on this topic. The problem with new ceramic batteries it that if you improve them on current output, you would automatically also make the safety worse. Batteries have to fullfill quite many criteria, so there is no single best for all battery, even not in 100 years.

[@xannax2050]

The future of wearable technology is back, and now better than ever with these batteries

[@KnowledgePerformance7]

The C rating on that hobby battery of 130C is a lie. It's a problem with hobby packs. They all have overstated C ratings

[@coccoborg]

yup, that's basically short-circuit current

[@abyssunderground]

Usually they are surge ratings where you can do it for a few seconds only. The lower value if two are listed is typically the continuous current.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Might be. Mine say 100c with burst at 200c, which for my 1.5 Ah pack, that would be close (4x motors at 35 Amp each, depending on prop it can go way higher). So I'm only at its continuous rating when putting the power down, I don't know if it could power bigger motors without excessive Vdroop (its fine right now, lets those motors scream!). My favorite pack for micros is 70c rated (not sure if its burst or constant), and based on how many 12 amp ESCs I seem to blow up, I'm probably around that mark, so 4x12 Amp = 48 Amp, with a 0.55 Ah battery. My display is showing it only drops 2v on a punch out (from 12.6v fresh charge down to 10.8v at full throttle punch out till I run out of video reception drag racing or hit the 400ft legal altitude limit).

[@satibel]

typically, high C rated batteries are lower capacity for the price, and if you get a 1Ah at 100C, it has the same current as a 5Ah at 20C.

[@TehMagilla]

He calls a fast-charge C rating of 5 "a step in the right direction". None of my LiPos have a higher charge rating than that. In fact, my 60c batteries can only be charged at 2c. I'd say that 5c charge at this early stage of the technology is absolutely amazing.

[@Samuel-km5yf]

Great Scott - Overdischarge of Li-Ion is not dangerous at all. It’s recharging after overdischarge that is potentially dangerous.

[@newmonengineering]

Is that why there are videos of people catching on fire while trying to vape with a l-ion battery? Over discharge caused by custom coils and under rated batteries?

[@Samuel-km5yf]

@rogwabbit -- I don't know enough about e-cigarette battery explosions to comment specifically. However, in any application a Li-Ion battery can explode (the technical term is "vent with flame") if it is overcharged, punctured at a high state of charge, exposed to excessively high temperatures, manufactured improperly (poor production control) or have developed internal shorts (dendrites) due to overdischarge and then recharged. Note that recharging an overdischarged Li-Ion cell is not guaranteed to fail. Supposedly they can sometimes be brought back -- maybe with noticeable capacity degradation, maybe not. Personally, I don't ever try it because it's not worth the risk.

[@350606]

That's overcurrent right there, not overdischarge. If you get some cheapo batteries and ask them to give you 10A just like that... They won't like it, to say the least. EDIT: I'm referring to the vaping with custom stuff and the batteries exploding.

[@xenonram]

@@newmonengineering You're confused.

[@chasebh89]

Incredible, once they are able to make them store/release more power these will be a fantastic and incredibly useful invention

[@natsukazetojo]

This type of battery seems promising. I'd love to support the development and would love to get one. :)

[@bobderbraumeister6919]

The flcb could get integrated in the bracelets of the smart watches

[@randoschannel3801]

Battery life going down? Change the bracelet!!

[@josephwheeler1]

Maybe even integrated into the pcb itself.

[@petzi8695]

make a vacuum tube amplifier

[@sumitpandey1055]

Why you need that

[@matthewgarcia7376]

Why don't you? XD

[@infera1]

amazing sound

[@pawel4066]

Make a video about vacuum tubes.

[@petzi8695]

@@pawel4066 yes, like who want great scott to make a video about tubes

[@misteragb7558]

I assume this technology will be bought by a really big company like samsung soon.

[@lucasc5622]

It would be cool, but then we have to have bendy everything elses

[@celeb18]

They go in to graphane techlogogy. Samsung is not big in manufacture lithium batterys. LG Chem is biggest

[@chengpolun]

@@Basement-Science it is expensive so far but not extremely expensive.lol, in fact the cell is already in roll to roll production mode and will scale up soon, at the time cost will be acceptable in EV application.

[@xenonram]

@@celeb18 "Samsung is not big [in the] manufacturing of lithium batteries." Are you crazy?!? That's like saying, "Pepsi isn't big in the manufacturing of cola, Coke is the biggest." One has nothing to do with the other. Samsung is a HUGE lithium battery manufacturer, just as Pepsi is a HUGE cola manufacturer. (I'm basing that all on the assumption that you know what you're talking about, and LG is a bigger manufacturer... Which doesn't matter anyways.)

[@josephcobb6228]

wow. incredible batteries. can't wait see how these develope in the future

[@flatterpancake6016]

I could listen to ur voice for years

[@GANTZ100pts]

Shame we never actually see these batteries in production. Odds are they'll just sell the patent to an oil company.

[@joedirtpig814]

That low c rating makes them almost useless

[@DrScottson]

My new smart helmet has them so if we stack theres no chance of a battery explosion with our heads inside it

[@darvinde]

@@joedirtpig814 wait no there is so much use for a low C rating

[@joedirtpig814]

@@darvinde you're not wrong i could see them in cellphones in a few years considering how power efficient they're becoming, as of now they leave much to be desired.

[@darvinde]

@@joedirtpig814 Yes you are absolutly right. In the internet it says a smartphone needs 100-500mah, and as you said if you develop smartphones more energy efficient and if you develop the battery to drain more amps it would just be perfect with a safe battery, because no battery today in smartphones is safe. If any battery gets damaged, it catches fire. Some other cases would be: -Smartwatches -Some Microcontroller Projects for education, so it's save to work with a battery for beginner/schools even for intermediate people. -Wireless earbuds/headsets If you use battery's that you can bend, there are even more use cases.

[@luigi55125]

Those super flat batteries, but bigger, would be great for electric vehicles, as their batteries are very VERY heavy, and negatively affect their performance. Get those things to have more power, and last longer, and it's golden.

[@oblivion_2852]

Shape has no effect on how much it weighs. I'm pretty sure that Teslas use an array of the Lithium Ion (cylinder) cells. Even in the video scott showed that the downside of the safe batteries is they hold less charge for their volume and weight than Lithium Ion therefore making them heavier comparably.

[@cedricproper5256]

I like that Flexible Battery! Where can I buy one?

[@oniruddhoalam2039]

Prologium website.

[@patrickreinaldo1434]

this is not a hoax, this is not a scam, great scott is really great

[@rahimshah4699]

Hey man! Love your stuff and calculation. Thank you being here for help others. Your work is just excellent specially your calculations before work.

[@scienceteam9254]

wow. i thought this was gonna be thunderf00t fodder. this is amazing

[@silenthill4]

Thunderfoot is not fodder, pleb

[@Withnail1969]

you think this is a real battery? you don't know that for sure.

[@fullzys]

Are you still studying your masters? Btw keep up your awesome videos I haven't missed one since I started watching around 2.5 years ago

[@greatscottlab]

Thanks for watching. No, I am done with my Master.

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

You pronounced it wrong. It's SER-amic, not ker-amic.

[@mau3304]

PlatinumEagleStudio's in germany it‘s keramik that‘s why he pronounced it so

[@larrythes]

Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the clay, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

[@petrichors]

Thank you, Scott, for sharing, That's an impressive battery technology. It is the gate for the new flexible cellphones and other techs. It is also so thin and safe that it can be embedded in the fuselage of the next generation of cars, boats, and airplanes. Embedded batteries have so many advantages, it can save space and self-cooled since it is on the surface, so air is going to cool it down. so no need for liquid cooling like what for i.g. TESLA cars are doing now. Anyway. I'm so happy to see how the technology is improving so fast.

[@OffGridAussiePrepper]

Well done son..... keep up the good work. And i love the channel name...... i remember it coming from Back to the Future.

[@real4487]

3:16 R.I.P. FLCB

[@GilesBathgate]

I am sure +Great Scott pronounces things in a silly way for a joke.

[@greatscottlab]

Haha......good idea

[@GilesBathgate]

It could be your "Achilles" heel.

[@GilesBathgate]

+roidroid I wouldn't quit your day job to become a comedian.

[@Llyrana7]

German accent… 😂

[@userPrehistoricman]

Nah you're thinking of Cody's Lab and his bletch.

[@MandrakeFernflower]

Sehramik is how you pronounce ceramic. :-)

[@ledzeppeman]

@@I.____.....__...__ But... He's speaking English.

[@TanjoGalbi]

mwalsher You would be correct to say that if he was speaking in German, however he is speaking in English so it's a soft C sounding like S as in "sound". And before you complain that correcting him is rude: most people I have known on the internet who don't have English as their first language are very happy to be corrected so they learn how to pronounce English words correctly.

[@Vlek]

@@ledzeppeman accent

[@userPrehistoricman]

Bouncy, do you know what an accent is?

[@fhuber7507]

Early LiPos were 2C to 4C rated. This slowly increased as the products were developed Also early LiPos were heavier + bulkier for the same capacity (even with the far lower C ratings) I still have a useable (at 1 C) 3S LiPo rated (by label) 8C 1800 mah. It is double the weight and volume of a new Pack labeled 3S 2200 mah 30C which I bought recently. these new ceramic batteries are looking very promising.

[@joelstolarski2244]

That's a very nice review of new lithium battery. Fascinating.

[@madix124]

I can already hear everyone judging his pronunciation of 'ceramic'

[@thereynolds2725]

Noticing something is not the same as judging it.

[@larrythes]

Because there is to much ignorance!

[@onehourmusicbc]

Yay, my country invented another battery :D

[@dfpguitar]

pronunciation of the C in Achilles and ceramic is backwards. Ceramic is pronounced seramik. Achilles is pronounced akillees.

[@larrythes]

Totally wrong! It is pronounced keramik. As for Achilles it's not even the real name. It should be Αχιλλεύς which is pronounced Ahilléfs.

[@dfpguitar]

Well Im guessing you are Greek so you are probably right about the original pronunciation of Achillies, but in English it has becom Akilees. English is a strange language combining a foundation of German a heavy dressing of Latin, a sprinkle of French, and pinches of eastern spice from places like India. One example of the latter being the word Jungle, which most people in the Greater India area would pronounce more like Zongul. But Ceramic is very uniformly pronounced Seramik in every form of English, be it in England, USA or India. @@larrythes

[@larrythes]

@@dfpguitar I know, English language is a bit of a mess. And Greek language is difficult. I'll be sounding like Portokalos from "my big fat Greek wedding" but ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the clay and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

[@kutlu13]

@GreatScott! Hey, thanks for the video. Actually I contacted to company for samples but as I expected they only send them to other companies. Do you know a way to get them or they accept youtube channels as companies? I need to test FLCB reliability on my low power applications and thinking of buying more if possible in the future.

[@gideonkloosterman]

You could, for example, make a watch with that flexible stuff as watch strap. It has a way higher energy capacity than normal watch batteries and is also rechargable. Now I don't expect there to be a port but a small wireless(bendable) charging strip, an (also bendable) lcd screen and these batteries would be a great combo to make a light and flexible watch.

[@Napert]

Perfect batteries for the Note 7 xd

[@bionicblitz171]

"Keramic" that made me smile haha, can't blame him though English is overly complicated

[@NoorquackerInd]

"KERAMIC"

[@Krisztian5HUN]

Mortal CumBat!

[@0Raik]

First time I heard that pronunciation, is something like toh-mah-toh vs tomato?

[@_Piers_]

@@0Raik No, he's saying "Ceramic" the way they do in German "Keramik". He also said "Achilles" in a rather unusual way (to an English speaker), which I assume is the German pronunciation. I'm sure the only reason people mentioned it, is that his English is ridiculously good...

[@danskustomairbrushin]

Very interesting and informative. In fact probably the first I've seen in a really long time that I really found worth while and really informative and not like marketing wank. I never really comment on anything on KZbin but I just wanted to take a moment and tell you that your videos are awesome. Keep it up!

[@TheMcSebi]

Great video! I didn't yet knew these types of batteries existed. I'd also be interested in how warm they got especially in the over-discharge scenario. I usually do that using a cheap close range infrared thermometer.

[@piergiorgio919]

K E R A M I K

[@westelaudio943]

That's actually how it is pronounced and written in German, lol

[@richcampoverde]

Come back when you can speak german

[@tanmay8017]

ceramic❌ Keramic✔️

[@guestchannel3080]

All my life, I was taught to pronounce it as 'Seramik'... Now you're changing it to 'Keramik' ! Why do y'all make fun of my English Skills when you guys haven't actually decided anything yet...😐

[@voyager9957]

Ehh, I think he spells it "keramik", because he is german. In german you say "Keramik", just like you read it.

[@askhowiknow5527]

Guest Channel Whoever taught you “keramic” was wrong - if they were teaching you the English pronunciation

[@askhowiknow5527]

Holzi Whereas English has... no spelling rules at all, dammit

[@larrythes]

The word "ceramic" comes from the Greek word κεραμικός (keramikos), "of pottery" or "for pottery", from κέραμος (keramos), "potter's clay, tile, pottery".

[@morseman21]

Very interesting video, good way to showcase new battery tech!

[@flappy7373]

i always deeply *deeply* enjoy when engineering types purposefully mispronounce words just for the fun of it.. because engineering types are the types who give a lot of respect towards creating and following rules.. so the humor isn't lost on me ;D

[@nefariouspurplebadger]

Jeez. The vast majority of English speakers don’t speak any other language. But they get their knickers in a twist over the slightest of mispronunciations. And then pretend they are trying to do someone a favour, when really they are just being picky and condescending. Come back when your German is as good as his English, or sit down shut up and enjoy the video.

[@paulosullivan3472]

I speak several dozen languages and I can say I am always grateful for somebody to tell me when I am saying something incorrectly. You can't learn if nobody corrects you.

[@quarksamurai6101]

Nefarious Purple Badger triggered over . nothing

[@Wok_Agenda]

Germans do the same , I've worked for a big German components supplier and when they visited the branch of my country none of them speaked English and that is stupid , how do a company hire you as a manager / salesman of foreign branches when you only speak one language? That is cocky the audiot kind

[@sopothetocho]

People were just trying to help, you moron. Also dont get me started on germans, the most arrogant people on the planet.

[@Felisargyle]

Nefarious Purple Badger I think people are just trying to help I don’t think he will get offended.

[@paulybeatz3688]

*Do you have an Australian accent?*

[@dizzyfpv4903]

lol WTF?

[@H.EL-Othemany]

"keramic" lol

[@davidconeff]

Any word on cost per Wh or cell? I can't find any information on their website of a standard catalog to order samples from to get an idea of what the cost of storage is for these. Even if the volumetric density isn't great, the non-flammability is a big deal. I'd like to get a cell or two to play with!

[@kobusdowney5291]

Nice Vid! However next time keeps your tests the same for liion vs cerliion, such as, leave the nail in the ceramic cell and see what that does.

[@jordanwelty6582]

Taiwan is a country, That is all.

[@YTshashmeera]

Yes :)

[@motoprime2731]

ce·ram·ic \sə-ˈra-mik, especially Britishkə-\ 🙈🙈🙈

[@sturmim]

"The Battewy" ... "The Battewy" ... "Manifactuw" ... "Ovewchoch" ... "Wechoch" ... ... 😂😂😂

[@zeusm8498]

I cant wait for these to output higher c ratings and not have to worry about burning my house down thanks for sharing .

[@TheArachnid]

Is there anywhere where these are available commercially? I looked online and didn't see anything...