Testing Mould King Electronics (first impressions)

[@BrickTrains]

The push out transition to the editing screen looked really great. It is a shame that LEGO has not continued with the PF stuff. 3rd part is really the only option now.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

It was something I had seen in other videos and always wanted to do 😁. I'm just kicking myself for selling any PF motors that I did back in the day, why would I ever need more than 6 M size motors? 😭

[@brickengineering4980]

Mould king and buwizz are the best choices now🧐

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Nearly the only choices. I have some cheapo m motors I got on eBay for about 4$ each. They will be in the comparison to other motors

[@JK00821]

I bought mould king servos six months ago and after some weeks of use they stopped working (I used buwizz 2.0 as power source). They were not proportional and they glitched a lot.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Third party electronics can definitely be hit or miss. Were you using the 12v mode on the BuWizz? It may have overvolted them. As for glitching I think even official Lego servos can glitch if the internal sensor has problems. I've had some other 3rd party servos that had a bit of "chatter"

[@jubes1300]

If you connect the proper working servo you have to the mould king Powered Module, does it output proportional control positions?

[@SocalSamStokes]

No

[@adametannecle2722]

If you connect an original servo, in parallel with a normal non proportional servo, you get proportional control on the original servo

[@davearthur514]

Is Lego PF interchangeable with Mould King PF

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

For the most part yes

[@davearthur514]

@@BatteryPoweredBricks thanks, that's a great help, do you know if you can get a single battery power supply to give static models working headlights ?

[@babyTOY-YODA777]

Does the power pack work with lego brand power functions motors and such? And also does the remote work with lego brand IR receiver? Thanks!

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

KZbin glitched when I tried to respond. I don't see why they wouldn't work, they do supply constant power on the right pins since they have servo motors. I wanted to test it but haven't had a chance

[@Hinvest4FR]

Thank you for the review. I have a question: I have the Lego Audi e tron but that drives very slow. With which parts of Mould king would I need to replace the Lego motor so the e tron will drive faster ?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I'm not familiar with the set. Pretty much all of my attention has been on trains the past year or so. There are plenty of folks out there that would know better than me

[@Rderbbux]

I have lego 8436 truck. I want to make it rc. I want proportional drive and steering. What can we get what do you recomend?.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

It's hard to say really. The official Lego servos are crazy expensive nowadays and the controller shown in the video is one of the few option that doesn't use a phone in the middle. Anything with Bluetooth in the mix will add a bit of lag.

[@Rderbbux]

@BatteryPoweredBricks I've bought the combo you have in the video. Looks like I'll have proportional drove and non propersional steering for now.

[@godwinyan5448]

I’m a bit late, but if you want high quality motors, I think you should try Buwizz, and yeah I know you probably know about buwizz, but, just a thought.

[@Morlihead]

can you give me please a link for the mouldking motors

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

They are fairly easy to find on Amazon or AliExpress. They have dozens of options so there isn't a single link I could post

[@sfrerku]

There are 3 versions of the servo motor, the last one is supposed to work proportionally without issues with this controller and battery, do you know where to get it?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I haven't heard anything but I wouldn't be the first to hear something like that either. Idk if Mould King sponsors channels but if they do I imagine they would be the first to hear of new products.

[@NilsvN_]

Would be cool to see the comparison between this and lego's L motor. If it has a higher max rpm I wonder if it has lower torque

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I have a video soon comparing Lego, Mould King and generic eBay M size motors. Hoping to do some L motor comparisons, debating on different testing methodologies

[@NilsvN_]

​@@BatteryPoweredBricks Nice! Here's some random test ideas: - Insert axle into motor, attach string to it and compare how much weight it can lift up in what amount of time - Maybe a sound test at different speeds? As a train guy I'd want the motors to be as noisy as the lego ones at the worst And just wondering, do these "knockoff" motors all function properly when using a Lego IR receiver? Personally I'd be interested in a PFx Brick test (it has way more speed steps and higher PWM) but not sure if you have one of those

[@williamdemler24]

Do Lego servo PF motors work with proportional steering? Where can I get that Traxxas R/C style controller that uses the USB connection and a cell phone? That is very cool.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

The official Lego servos are proportional but I haven't tested it with the Mould King controller. I have a dedicated tutorial to using the pistol grip RC controller with the Powered Up system. The only downside is there is a good amount of lag 😒

[@Invenisso]

They work: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWjYlXh6i7Cjr5osi=NADxCyKfKjT9kwAj&t=356

[@tomatomaxxx]

I bought a brand new Mould King Powered Module 6.0 and the range of the radio controller is really poor: less than 1 meter. Even less with bluetooth connection. In an MK video they claimed a range of 50 meters or more. What's the range in your experience?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I haven't really done a lot of testing with wireless range, just to the end of the driveway. You say it is brand new, have you charged it yet? Fresh batteries in the controller? Besides that I guess you could reach out to MK, I've never had any response from them so at this point I'm sticking to companies that stand by their product

[@tomatomaxxx]

Both the controller and the power box have rechargeable batteries and both were charged. In one week of usage, in different places, the wireless range never went beyond 1 meter

[@nicksbestvideos8256]

I remember reading that it was not proportional but i think it was an review

[@Nguyenchiquyet]

Hello, Where can I buy a receiver that can connect to the Brickcontroler2 app like the video? Thank you verry much❤

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I have a couple other videos that focus more on the BrickController2 app. The Powered Up hubs from Lego, Buwizz 2 and 3 (If I remember correctly) and the S-Brick and S-Brick+ are compatible. It's been a very long time since I've used it so I may have more recommendations / advice in those older videos

[@GusVegaFantasma]

That transmitter looks sick, which model is?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

It's the Flysky G7P. I have a video about using it with the BrickController2 app

[@ggkkfrukb1070]

How much did all of that cost?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Rough guess (they were purchased at different times) maybe $80 total. MUCH cheaper than Lego (just an official Lego PF servo would be more than that) but again without it being proportional it's not as useful

[@glowytheglowbug]

maybe try testing all the tiny switches and for me I did have problems with some offbrand motors not coupling with MK hubs properly but after a bit if wiggling they work also I'm still not sure if you can control the MK hub from a device other than their remote controls since it says it has Bluetooth but it also says it has radio control (whats the current on a MK hub at max?)

[@NoSosa]

Is it normal that it is blinking red while charging?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I haven't used them in a long time, honestly can't remember 😬

[@magnusE7]

Please do video of the battery.

[@glowytheglowbug]

personally im swithcing to PU since im doing things more on robotics so yeah proportional control and all that fun stuff

[@williamdemler24]

So, has anyone found a proportional control PF servo that actually works with the Mould King PF R/C kit? Mould King came out with a 6 channel as featured in this video. Right now, Mould King is selling a 4 channel version proportional control. I tested the Mould King servo with that and the 6 channel and got the same result. A full 90 degrees in either direction.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I still haven't found one but I haven't really been looking either. I think some of the folks in my discord would find out about them before I would but would probably share it there

[@williamdemler24]

I've watched some videos about Lego leaks for 2024. One video mentioned that there is going to be a Porsche 911 car with a USB charging port battery, and it's going to be the fastest car Lego has come out with so far.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I haven't looked into it too much, from what I've heard the Lego RC community isn't too impressed with the design specs of the new RC hub. It basically looks like a modern version of the old RC hubs Lego used to have and won't be very customizable

[@aronslegogbcs1057]

mould king do have a proportional servo but they had to recall it due to issues with the hub

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Yeah I just found a video talking about it today. Maybe one day a company will make one 🙏

[@kennethcartman9744]

@@BatteryPoweredBricks Its a shame because a standard hobby servo fits so well. Lego really need to up there game when it comes to the electronics and motors.

[@glowytheglowbug]

my two mouldking 6.0 hubs hae never broken through my abuse but the controller tiny switches have gotten wobbly a toothpick or a file wiggling around will allow you to switch it around but yeah its something to take note of

[@sfrerku]

There are 3 versions of the servo motor, the last one is supposed to work proportionally without issues, do you know where to get it?

[@glowytheglowbug]

@@sfrerku Yeah, I half expected it even if the listing did say it was proportional. Apparently they did have a version that was but it was damaging batteries. I didn't find that video until after filming this i reccomend buying a real one or just normal no proportional ones, or go my route and make your own :)

[@STA-3]

I got my servo delivered. I tried powering it but it didn't work. The fking wire is broken before i even got to use it >:(

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Where did you order it from? Amazon is pretty good about returns, not sure about other places. I've emailed Mould King customer support and never got a response so I would probably skip that method 🙄. As for motors / servos I haven't had a single problem with them so far

[@STA-3]

@@BatteryPoweredBricks My father bought one from Amazon.

[@GearsAndBricks]

Ah darn. Was hoping that the 😢 emoji was, ya know, false advertisement. 😂 Hahaha. Okay, seriously, though, this is good to know. 👍

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

The search for a proportional servo continues!

[@llaszlo]

The mold king used to have a stepless servo motor. It didn't just know the few positions like LEGO, it was truly stepless. However, the problem was that the batteries were ruined by it. The description where you ordered is wrong. The MK battery can handle the LEGO servo motor.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Yeah I eventually found some info on them, mostly in non-english videos. I left a review on Amazon and mentioned the listing is incorrect but it hasn't been changed. Hopefully buyers thinking it will be proportional will read the reviews first

[@mooncake5874]

Mould King has many versions of motors, and I believe the best quality ones were those produced by Gobricks in the past. Both the casing and the connectors had excellent quality. Nowadays, they are rarely found in sets, and only a few XL motors are still from Gobricks. The connectors on the new factory-produced motors are of poor quality.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

That's a real issue with these companies, you can order the same thing multiple times and get something different each time 😕

[@glowytheglowbug]

btw any offbrand servo is almost 100% no proportional control

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Yeah, I half expected it even if the listing did say it was proportional. Apparently they did have a version that was but it was damaging batteries. I didn't find that video until after filming this

[@PugTheIrishLug]

pairing a buwizz motor with a mk 6.0 hub in an actual creation starts an electical fire.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I've never tried it but I am always skeptical of Chinese companies and the quality of their products

[@ashkumar8797]

Thanks

[@kkampf1213]

The Lego m motor runs at 200 rpms according to Philo.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I just looked, I'm seeing 405 RPM at 9v no load. I know the XL motors were closer to 200 RPM. I'll be doing a lot of testing with actual real world devices such as GBC modules to see how they compare with an actual load on them. Should be interesting 😀

[@McCatty_TECH]

Looking forward to these tests!

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Me too 😀. still brainstorming some different tests I could do 🤔

[@reesemolloy6109]

The fast furious Lego l motor is ok but has zero torque

[@ZaineChalice]

I had that motor too from Mould King. It run very well with a lot of torque. It can power a Lego Lamborghini Aventador very fast that the car break into pieces every time it hits a chair. But then after a month of using it the torque went from high to low. Now it cannot move my Lamborghini.

[@Blaze_1961]

I wont buy Legos until their prices are competitive Mould King and Nifeliz.

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

I don't expect them to ever be. One of the ways Mould King saves money is for lack of a better word, stealing designs for parts as well as MOCs from Lego fans. The pieces are made much cheaper as well. I also can't imagine their workers are payed very well. Still Lego could do a lot of things to lower prices for consumers but I highly doubt they would. Profit does seem to be the highest priority these days

[@Mardigrasman23]

Dum dum dum. This is like a crime caper.

[@davidmeale9572]

Do you know what you are doing?

[@BatteryPoweredBricks]

Not always? 🤷‍♂️