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[@christopherjilek5467]

I liked that the Spartan seems a bit more compact than the shocker. I also like how you installed it and was ready to go immediately. The down side to the Shocker to me was how you had to keep adjusting and fine tuning it through the air bag. But, they both look like quality products. Looking forward to the side by side comparison Sam!

[@m1ll3r86]

I have only pulled a gooseneck a couple times. But last summer I traded in my 30ft bumper pull travel trailer for a 35ft 5th wheel. Instead of going with a traditional 5th wheel hitch I went with an Andersen for the lightweight and having a ball instead of a king pin. Since then I upgraded to the Gen Y 5th to gooseneck for 2 reasons. 1 no extra hitch in the bed of my truck and 2nd the torsion flex for the ride quality. I have only pulled it twice with it. But the ride is so much better. Also it feels way stronger than a 5th wheel pin box. Was definitely very heavy and not any easy install. But I used my truck and the jacks to get in positioned where I needed it.

[@ChrisCookTech]

Offtheranch theme song! Woot’

[@dafatrooster8104]

I run these on my 5th wheel and gooseneck, changed out the king pin on the 5th wheel for the gooseneck version, love not having the 5th wheel hitch in the bed. both trailers pull and ride great. Great product.

[@TooTallharley]

You now have to say everytime you get in the rig "THIS IS SPARTA" lol and good job Boone finding the stick that sam threw badly lol

[@tymaster22]

Gen-y has been and always will be my go to for anything hitch related 💪🏻💪🏻

[@blessedexpress4476]

Would u take it over the shocker?

[@newlifeforoldshtuff7810]

Nice setup seems like you are enjoying the ride of the Gen-Y hitch. Great information as always keep up the good work and stay safe out there.

[@gungadinn]

Sam, check out the hitches from Airsafe. The hitch uses two airbags, one forward of the post and one mounted aft of the post. You don't get the rocking motion in pulling or braking like the Shocker Hitch. 75% of the custom horse hauler rigs use Airsafe.

[@peep39]

I use a tongue weight scale for my bumper pull and I wouldn't even get on the road without using it. Gives you "weigh" more confidence when you know you're in the tongue weight sweet spot

[@Augiebracerofam]

Boone found the stick in a pile of sticks. Natural forestry puppy. Great content.

[@connellyslandmanagement725]

Keep in mind we like to hear the exhaust too! I really like jake/engine breaks

[@XSteele]

The Dew, "modern day spinach". Brilliant !!!

[@cumminschevy5275]

"I love it when a plan comes together"

[@connordoll9455]

Hey good on ya for buying both this and the shocker and giving them a review for us.

[@clifftonlindsey382]

More work is less effort

[@flydriveride]

Interesting how much bounce the hitch takes out of the load as you're running through gears on a bolt action. Looks like an air-ride trailer and truck combined with the hitch coupler would be pretty smooth.

[@jmobs7524]

I’ve got the bumper pull version of the GEN Y hitch’s. Thing is awesome!

[@sprucegoose1016]

I've heard very good things bout gen y my self. Didnt know bout the tougne weight indicator 😎👍

[@TheTsunamijuan]

I recently bought a lift table to make my life easier with heavy shit like that. I had found a good one off craiglist after looking for a few years. Otherwise I use the cherry picker engine lift for stuff. Lift table was definitely worth it though.

[@chandlermilstead7548]

I seen a video on this hitch and I thought. Vbelt and son needs to try this

[@freddieeaglin8394]

I was hauling freight out of my F350 for a couple of months before I bought my 40 ft trailer and put airbags on the truck suspension. 3 weeks into using it I had to stop because it bothered my back too much. I have been wondering if a hitch like this might stop my back from hurting and let me stay in the hotshot buisness.

[@theoiv]

Hey Sam, this was very informative and helpful, thanks again. I was on the fence with the Shocker but it looks like the gen-Y will be my next big purchase.

[@darrenursin82]

If you are not carrying the weight its rated for i dont recommend i purchased it i do hotshot and on light loads its useless

[@jshoop30]

@@darrenursin82 which do you recommend? Shocker or Gen Y?

[@billytobener438]

When you called the bartle skeet a bartle skeet, I instantly subbed for a fellow cleetus fan!

[@VBELTandSON]

Haha thank you! Glad to have ya brother!

[@mckrackin5324]

Same. lol

[@Big_Papi_78]

V-BELT and SON - you have me tuned in to this comparison. I have a Shocker Hitch myself but have been interested in seeing how the Gen Y compares. Great content by the way!

[@gregoryunderwood4121]

🏆👍 The Gen Y "Bump Eater"! Great review!

[@hotshotfx3502]

Solid piece !! Intresting to see how it holds up over time..

[@thomasdesmond2248]

Being a master machinist I like the design of the Spartan better. It looks like it is a lot more stable. While still absorbing the shock load. Having 4 connectors it didn't have all the loose play in the hitch. That was a concern I had with the other one for longevity use. God bless

[@VBELTandSON]

Well said I can agree with that. I got some other ideas the shocker may work great for

[@robertmatthews2776]

Love this,GOD BLESS

[@paulrollinsjr.1845]

Thank you brother gotta come visit in your slow time

[@neilwines6879]

Which is best the shocker or spartan? Worth the money? I’m new to gooseneck trailers, I’ve always pulled tag a long. Little bit of a learning curve. Nice videos

[@AW-mz1zm]

Just got mine in but the holes don’t quite line up, I got the pin inside but it’s offset quite badly.

[@rockingkvideos3160]

I search KZbin, for entertainment but most often in search of information on something I’m researching. A review may be fact filled but horrible in delivery, shaky camera, wind noise, poor editing all lead to a loss in the intent to share good / valuable information. Sam, you deliver great content, quality video and the Boonster, what more could someone wish for in a KZbin channel. Thanks for sharing and keep up the variety 👍👍👍🇺🇸

[@VBELTandSON]

Thank you Ken! Always appreciate your comments brother!

[@johnmattu7262]

IDK, to me it looked like it was doing exactly what you were talking about as you was going down the road, and we were watching the hitch expecting to see it working the mechanical linkage, when in fact it was just slopping around from the cantilever effect on the ball. I didn't see the linkage arms moving up and down any at all. I do sopose the tongue weight is very critical for proper function, looks like you were on the lite side. I like your vids, keep up the great work! P.S. I have the same machine and mulch head!

[@rogerh1370]

Great video sam , if you have time can you do some run time with the 3500 single wheel with both hitches . Would like some feedback with little more trailer weight . Thanks bud great job again

[@truckingwithcliff]

Can you use these hitches instead of buying or retrofitting a trailer to an airbag setup

[@bradhamilton3098]

So which u like best gen y or the shocker??

[@screamingeagle9553]

Did Sam ever do the review of both? I’m setting up my hotshot rig now and would like to hear the review on both.

[@workplaytv]

I wait that trailer! Think I need that hitch for my setup!

[@VBELTandSON]

Dang trailer gonna cost more than a truck here soon haha It is a nice hitch tho!

[@workplaytv]

V-BELT and SON lol yeah man sure is

[@workplaytv]

V-BELT and SON lol yeah man sure is

[@elksconstruction9036]

Witch one you like more the gen Y or the shocker one with the airbag. But also I don’t see u use it on your trailers in your vids whys that

[@johnnyperry7606]

Hey ride suspension with a pressure gauge gives you a close reading on weight

[@leerodriguez7842]

Out of both the shocker and gyn-y-hitch, which one would you recommend for a hot-shot driver?

[@ilove_sports]

Great question!

[@1slow5point0]

I think I’m liking this one a little better than the Shocker and I really liked the Shocker.

[@LoneWolf-cf5tp]

Great review, can’t wait to see the comparison video. 👍🏻.

[@VBELTandSON]

Thank ya brother!

[@LoneWolf-cf5tp]

Your welcome bro

[@bradbelich9822]

Where is your comparison video? Not sure if you made one yet and I can’t find it. My trailer bucks so bad. Just not sure which one to buy? Thanks, brother.

[@Fire-se9sg]

Can never go wrong with a Gen-Y

[@brianherron5400]

Gen Y hitch looks like it will do better than Shocker hitch, good move 👊👍

[@darrenursin82]

whats better the shocker or the gen hitch

[@greendodge98]

How does it compare to the air bag hitch

[@burkelatimer1845]

Hey man, are you still Using this or the shocker hitch?

[@andybaker5787]

Keep up the good work sam

[@wc7516]

I'm thinking the Shocker is what I will be going with because it is adjustable to different weights where the Gen Y is only good for a set weight of trailer.

[@jeffleblanc8850]

That’s a awesome trailer

[@aaronlbuchanan9861]

Hey Sam, thanks for the video. looking forward to the comparison video. Could you explain the " not for hire " signs you put on your trailers.

[@OMACMedicFiveZero]

Shows they arent commercial. Not for hire usually means the gear is privately owned and not being used for business.

[@stevenandrews6627]

👍👍👍 Great post. I noticed something. You've a FAE forestry head on your Takeu-CTL but are wearing a Denis Cimaf hoody. Have you ever used a Cimaf cutter head? I use them exclusively now. Their after-sale service is incredible. And that's an awesome little pooch!

[@VBELTandSON]

I own one Cimaf and it’s for the 080 excavator. I don’t think I’ll buy another one. Own 5 fae heads love them!

[@shaneslater896]

It looks great.

[@joshuatefft934]

Is it better than the shocker

[@XSteele]

Good looking road dog you got there

[@Jreddygo]

Thanks for sharing this great video sir. I want to ask you what trailer is this in particular? Does it have a specific model or name? I know Diamond c makes a lot of them but I’m really interested in your set up for hot shot. Thank you...👍😎

[@renohuskerdu4592]

I'm getting ready to order a FMAX212 hydraulic dovetail and Diamond C only has the Shocker available. Which would you buy for a 25,900lb trailer?

[@VBELTandSON]

Gen y

[@bradj4742]

TP has been sitting in that truck so long trying to make those miles he would need to phone a friend to lift that hitch

[@roycegaida5300]

Nice review! Looking forward to seeing head to head comparison video with Shocker. How long should battery charge last when using hydraulic dove? Battery when dead after one month of use on my Diamond C. Think I got a bad battery.

[@David-fk6yg]

Do you have either of the extra chargeing methods on your trailer? (Plug OR solar type of trickle charger) If you are relying on the truck to charge while using the trailer, the trailer battery will be used up very quickly. UNLESS your driving for long periods between load/unload intervals. All in all, get a good trickle charger that will cut itself off & back on to keep a batt. charge & ready to work when you need it. I've got them on every price of equipment that we don't use every day. Hope this helps, any other questions shout back & I'll try to help.

[@twsinc7662]

So which product is the best?

[@randyvest9224]

Hey Sam, I’m seriously looking at this hitch for my trailer, I have a fmax216 hoping you could give me some information on this hitch, I’ve got a few questions. I enjoy your content and watch all the time! Your the reason I went with a diamond c cause of your informational video, couldn’t find anything to compare to them. Stay safe brother.

[@XSteele]

Have you ever pulled an air ride trailer ? Worth the $$$ Take care of your back man, once your back goes bad it can ruin your life

[@tiptoplandsolutions1421]

hey,i should of reviewed my Gen-y..will i tried..lol great review popeye sam. Now you can haul like a real super trucker ...

[@LoneWolf-cf5tp]

TipTop LandSolutions Super Trucker. Lol

[@kraigchinn747]

We have a seed tender and it doesn’t put enough weight on the truck so it bucks something terrible. What’s your thoughts on the one to get?

[@VBELTandSON]

it will help for sure. I don't like a poor riding trailer

[@BattleBornCowboy]

Enjoyed the video sipping coffee from my V-Belt & Son travel mug. Go buy one! I use this daily and love it. :)

[@Tyler_Robertson]

I vote Gen Y!

[@jpeveto81]

Would it be possible to rotate the hitch 180 deg? It looks like there is enough room between the truck and trailer, it would also shorten you overall length vs. even the standard hitch.

[@Tui1Hit]

You should not do that. It will apply a negative moment (engineering term for mass - distance unit) on the coupler which will resist against its designed spring effect for a cushion-like ride. If you look at the coupler where is set up normally, the weight of the trailer will want to push down on the coupler. If you are to reverse it as you suggested, now the weight of the trailer (lateral weight while being pulled) wants to pull up on the coupler shockers instead of pushing down. Even though the shocks still flex to provide spring effect, it won't be as much as flex on the coupler because it is acting against the tongue weight of the trailer. One way to say it; more flex vs less shock flex if you're to flip it over.

[@geraldkoth654]

Next thing you know we will see you hook up a big rubber band attachment aka tractor tire. LOL

[@rodneyhowell2703]

That gen-y-hitch can sure save those kidneys sam .

[@hcourtney10]

Curious if this helps when empty? I pull 25,000 or so one way, so half the time the trailer is empty (and beats me up). How does it ride when there's no weight on the trailer?

[@VBELTandSON]

Yes it would help

[@sodon10]

I'm wondering if you had gone with the 5.5k hitch instead of the 7k, maybe you would see more movement, maybe a little more cushion?

[@sodon10]

Also, did you end up keeping it?

[@VBELTandSON]

this is the lightest machine I haul. more movement for sure when I haul the bigger machines. and its still on the trailer

[@rider6.0]

Nice!

[@gagt5spd]

Came here from a tow piglet video, this was in the related column on his vid.

[@BattleBornCowboy]

I think that's how I found Sam's channel as well lol! :D

[@colinblankenship2401]

nice set up

[@lablancjc]

Good info i bought the 25k spartan!

[@Jreddygo]

How much was it? $

[@n0nc0mpliant]

I like how much less that deflects than the shocker.

[@charlieodom9107]

The movement in the shocker takes a LOT of getting used to, especially when braking and backing. Standard trans vehicles also are more jerky with it than the GenY

[@johnweatherford5760]

Fine trailer! Is the hitch predrilled if you wanted to spin it 180?

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah

[@thomashannahjr1983]

On the cool Sam iBeen told you about gen-y hitch a few mouths ago when you were asking abt hitch's #V-BeltandSon

[@AntisocialLaneeBug]

this or the shocker hitch?

[@mikef1586]

Hey, how do you like the paint finish on that trailer? Do you know if they bead blast the metal before primer and paint? I called a Diamond C trailer dealer a few days ago and asked him what he thought of the paint on their trailers. The first words out of his mouth was "I wish it was better". Did you ever have experience with Midsota trailers?

[@VBELTandSON]

He said diamond c needs better paint?!? What?? I think the paint in the diamond is pretty damn good so far. Very thick and handles binders smacking it hasn’t chipped at all yet. My buddy has same trailer but a year old and his paint is dirty but hasn’t flaked off at all.

[@mikef1586]

@@VBELTandSON that's what the salesman told me. I need to call right to the factory to see what their paint process is. I'm up here in the salt belt and I'm tired of crappy finishes like on our last PJ trailer. Paint came off in sheets and it might have seen salt 5 times in the 5 years that we had it. I've heard good things about Midsota's paint. The metal is blasted then they use an epoxy primer and paint. I definitely like some of the features of the Diamond C though.

[@connellyslandmanagement725]

Time will give us more on the hitch

[@diamond_industries]

Thumbs up for boone

[@rickyblankenship6015]

Try it on the Texas pride and see how it does.

[@shyecjj]

I never seen it flex. Probably go with the shocker, its adjustable.

[@VBELTandSON]

Always adjusting the shocker never settled just right. Gen y was actually nice to run. Simple

[@tonyturner779]

have you done a video on just driving around and shifting with the 5500? Do you ever float the gears? I dont but hear all the time that I should to save my clutch but the clutch is cheaper to replace than an entire g56.

[@robwalters9695]

He did a video regarding floating with his nv5600 but not the g56 I dont think. Any Synchro trans should be shifted with the clutch as much as possible to save the synchros, floating can be done but puts added stress on the synchros

[@tonyturner779]

@@robwalters9695 thanks, I've read that a dozen times as well and keep hearing conflicting stories on do's and dont's.

[@robwalters9695]

@@tonyturner779 when I had a South Bend SDD3250 in my old 03 with the NV4500 i would float quite a bit and fluid changes showed the results... brass in the fluid. Nv4500s use brass synchos where as a 5600 uses carbon fiber, not sure on the g56. I did it with that due to it being extremely difficult to shift due to the clutch, but that's another story. Lol long story short but I'll never run a SB again

[@tonyturner779]

@@robwalters9695 I just installed a Southbend in my g56 and they are brass synchro as well. I don't float them and shifting is just fine. Only complaint is going to reverse from a dead stop.

[@robwalters9695]

@@tonyturner779 yea my nv4500 was ok once I actually got it in gear. Neutral to any gear direct was impossible, had to go back and forth between 3rd and 4th to get it to slide into a gear then it would be fine. May have just been my trans was finicky I'm not sure but Valair is all I'll run from now on, dual disk organic

[@Eagle1A]

Very nice

[@robwalters9695]

Like that setup way better than the airbag one, just less to mess with... less variables it seems for you to worry about.

[@jimfetzer996]

I would like to see how it works on a empty trailer mine rides ok full beats you up when empty

[@charlieodom9107]

You would need to get one sized for the empty tongue weight. This one has a minimum tongue weight of 5500, so it will be stiff.

[@mckrackin5324]

Bartle Skeet. Yee Yee.

[@motocolo125]

I wish i had heavy loads to pull with my dmax!

[@OpTikyt]

Demolition ranch?

[@6bt_str864]

Y'all don't have no train tracks in dat dare area ? ? (Even a train to nowhere?)

[@josh33025]

If you don't want an air bag to adjust all the time this is the hitch for you.

[@drive_2_fast90]

I'm curious to know what it takes to break it

[@VBELTandSON]

The hulk..

[@terrancemcclendon1143]

What size spartan was that 5.5 tw or 3.5 tw

[@VBELTandSON]

7k tongue. 30k total

[@williamdegnan4718]

13:30 14:40 Ever have deja Vu? 🤣

[@mustangman4291980]

🤣

[@5150cash]

I was thinking the same. Thank God it wasn't just me

[@dakotamckinney8753]

John Schneider done the same thing today on "Top 5 mistakes when building the General Lee" here on KZbin

[@williamdegnan4718]

I'm surprised that it doesn't happen more often.

[@paulrollinsjr.1845]

It's the second time it happened 😂

[@connellyslandmanagement725]

“Makes life comfier” well we’re know for a fact it’s not gonna get easier

[@bent.cyclist]

Did anybody see any compression of the hitch components during the ride? I didn't. In case I was misunderstanding how the absorption worked, I went to the manufacturer's site and watched a demo video where the components clearly showed compression and the side plates becoming more level. I wonder whether Sam is feeling ride improvement because he wants to see improvement. Maybe more tongue weight to get the hitch off its stops?

[@VBELTandSON]

cyclist I talked about that in the video. Definitely could use more tongue weight to make it squat the hitch but placement of the machine is at the point to allow me to keep weight on the tail for chaining to the tail. Little movement for sure with this machine and placement but definitely was noticeable in the drivers seat. If it sucked believe me I’d tell you lol this is real world not a stage for the company that makes the stuff

[@pitts3219]

Let me wake up this morning and see what I can spend money on today? .....every video!

[@VBELTandSON]

Spend money? What’s that?