Testing Out Bambu Labs' Latest AI Tools

Bambu Labs is routinely releasing new tools helping makers create new and fun designs. They've just released two new ones in beta, and so in this video, I take a look at them.
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[@K_M_M_G]

Great video and interesting tool. I'm not sure how I would put them into practice but is nice to see where things are headed

[@3DRevolution]

Just more tools to be aware of that are there if you ever need them

[@canadiansparky64]

Yes I used the ai scanner to try to recreate a part. It was a cover for a photo eye. The first attempt kept failing because I set it on a small table and couldn't record the bottom. Then I set it on a shot glass on a ladder and recorded the top middle and lower as instructed. It did its thing and asked if it looked right so I uploaded it and was able to set the scale but it included the shot glass attached to it and I couldn't figure out how to split and remove so I printed the whole thing but it had to add tree support because the part was wider than the shot glass. I was amazed by how accurate it turned out. The original only had one square corner and the rest were rounded, it had a window on the side to see the photo eye's leds. An opening on the front for the sensor, sloped from front to back , an opening in the center to house the sensor and blocks in opposite corners for the screws to mount the cover to the base and they were recessed down about 4 mm. Plus an opening the the back for the wire to go in. We'll, I printed it shot glass and all but it came out about 15mm too small overall, but picked up every detail, even where the screw holes were. If the size was right I could have cut off the shot glass and it would have been perfect. I will keep it as a souvenir and maybe try again but it took 3-1/2 hours, I need to figure out how to split the object. Only had the A1 mini for a week, it's my fist 3d print and I'm 60, so much fun!

[@3DRevolution]

Really glad you've been having some fun with it. In terms of the shotglass, if you just wanted to remove that for printing, once you've got it in Bambu Studio, you can just use the Cut tool (I explain how to use this in my Bambu Studio beginners guide and you can find it 12 mins 20 seconds in here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZTOZp2sZ5Kol9Esi=dpWjDDzts4sD9V9U&t=740).

[@canadiansparky64]

Thanks, I will check it out. I was sure it was possible but just couldn't find it on my own.

[@3DRevolution]

Glad I could help

[@canadiansparky64]

Yes, I figured out how to cut and delete. The AI imported with holes through out the base, I just added supports but I'm sure there is a better way. Is that where you would add a cube to merge and then cut a flat surface?

[@gunracksonline]

Are you limited to bambu bed size on the relief sculpture? Can you get it with out the stand? May make some good models to carve out with a cnc router into wood.

[@3DRevolution]

The maximum width you can set is 300mm, which is larger than the length of a Bambu Labs typical bed width, but will fit on there if rotated at an angle no problem. I really like the idea of using this for CNC, may have to give that a try. Obviously if you did want larger, once exported you can just enlarge it further, it just won't add further detail to it. If you are using it for that though, I'd suggest perhapse turning off the 'Sharpen' switch as I feel that's going to result in what will look like 3D pixelation with a CNC build, but I could be wrong there. Let me know if you have any luck playing with that!

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

Excellent info. Is it possible to wrap the image around a cylinder to create texture rollers?

[@3DRevolution]

It's not part of the MakerLab tool, but in theory you could import the file it exports and manipulate it manually into a cylinder.

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

@@3DRevolution - Thank you - Texture rollers are very big in the TTRPG community at the moment, and so if you could you a video on the topic, I am sure it would bring in lots of new subscribers. I would be happy to help spread the word.

[@3DRevolution]

@@christopherd.winnan8701 thanks very much, nice suggestion! I'll definitely keep that in mind, could be a fun video. Thanks again, and happy printing

[@canadianoperator]

Omg SPRITES! I remember as a kid I’d have a Duke Nukem 3D level design book inside another book while in class and learning about making levels using sprites for characters and various other things… sorry. Totally unrelated but my god did that bring back some memories :)

[@3DRevolution]

Hehe, making me think about tying sprites and 3D printing together. Will have a think about how to spur on the nostalgia haha.

[@darrenbeck7664]

Which tools do you recommend to give 2D objects depth? You mentioned this briefly in the video? Thanks!

[@3DRevolution]

There's a few around. They aren't technically designed to generate a 3D model, but through a bit of work it's technically possible. These are a couple of the free ones (premium ones have more functionality): Artificial Studio: www.artificialstudio.ai/tools/image-depth LeiaPix: convert.leiapix.com/image

[@JoshuaRilliet]

Well, for the moment, the second new feature presented isn't quite "perfected", but it's still interesting and gives an idea of what will be possible in the future.

[@3DRevolution]

Definitely intrigued to see where this space goes. There has also been hints in some changes they've made to MakerWorld.com recently that suggests they may be soon releasing a new tool that would offer 3D models made by generative AI.

[@craig4451]

nice video - you should mention filament used whenever you print and show a result (IMO).

[@3DRevolution]

Good point, that had been an intention. If you're interested, the relief sculpture was printed in Bambu Marble PLA red

[@timothyvo3749]

Most people don't care and if you do feel free to like and subscribe and leave a comment down below 😂

[@Scooterspade]

Ikea Lazy susan SNUDDA should do the trick here with rotation and then a small tripod for the camera to be fixated.. interesting to see where this goes and when it improves :) thanks for the video

[@timothyvo3749]

Needs to record from different heights also so fixated camera no good

[@3DRevolution]

I actually have a lazy susan I used in the video I refer to where I'm using the Xbox kinect. However, with gausian splat style rendering, it uses reference points in the background to understand how the camera has moved in relation to the object, and even in Bambu Lab's instructions on this system it says that one of the potential reasons for it not working well is due to lack of detail in the background, for this very reason. So with this style of scanning, the camera needs to move unfortunately rather than the object. For photogrammetry, or 3D scanning that uses LiDar or depth sensors however, a Lazy Susan style setup is perfect, providing you adjust the hight of the camera after each rotation.

[@chrishessey9733]

Put the camera on a tripod and spin the subject around. It would be a smooth video.

[@3DRevolution]

Do you mean you wanted a rotating product shot to showcase the relief sculpture print? I had actually planned to get some shots like that with my motorised slider, but I remembered a little late I'm afraid.

[@zdog90210]

It seems like bamboo lab is putting their money into interesting developments, I cannot wait until I can afford one for multicolor that's my next step!

[@3DRevolution]

Their main focus seems to be making 3D printing as easy and accessible as possible. For most of the time that 3D printing has been realistically possible for hobbyists and general consumers, it's still been largely reserved for people who want the printing itself to become a primary hobby and focus for them, making it less appealing for people who just want a tool to achieve the end goal. You don't need to be an engineer to use an HP inkjet 2D printer (though arguably my 2D printers behave worse than my 3D printers do), and that's their goal from what I can tell. Make it so everyone can have and use a 3D printer. The rate that they are putting out new features is cool to see though. Which printer are you eyeing up for your first multi-colour setup? The fact that their A1 Mini is compatible with the AMS Lite definitely makes that the cheapest reliable option to go for if you want multi-colour

[@zdog90210]

@@3DRevolution I started the ender 3 route a few years ago and now have that direct drive an anycubic vyper and voxelab Aquila S2 all running klipper so for me I like the aspect of upgrading and fixing and creating as my main hobby, I particularly like making RC cars boats and planes. For my friends who think it's cool and ask me for a custom part or something printed here or there a bambu lab printer would be my only advice for them to buy right now. I always compare bambu lab with the best parts of Apple and Linux you still have a good ecosystem of repository of files, a slicer that may be the best (orca slicer user) and printers that are priced and equipped for beginners (cough cough prusa), that an A1 with AMS lite is the way to go. For me and multicolor I have been thinking of two options either bambu lab and the A1 AMS lite or p1 with AMS or adding an ERCF V2 and accompanying stealth burner with mods for the ERCF to one of my printers. My only hesitation right now is the waste with the multi color systems but I print enough functional parts I can use for the waste colors purge for when ever I'm going to print multi color. And I would have to agree with you that even an Ender 3 today that you buy would be more reliable than a 2D printer that you buy from HP or Epson and that's crazy to think! 2kg of filament is the price of one ink cartridge!

[@anthonylong5870]

Multicolor is WAY over hyped. The truth about it is that it 1. Makes MASSIVE amounts of waste, not just some but MASSIVE amounts. A file that would take say 75g of 1 color fillament could and most likely would take 300-400g of filament. With 75% being waste. 2. The time it takes for even a small 2 or 3 inch object that would take maybe 2hrs. Will take 25hrs to print in multicolor. It really isnt a very efficient tool

[@3DRevolution]

@@anthonylong5870It's definitely not an efficient tool, but I don't think that meakes multi-colour printing over hyped. It's the method that caused it but it feels a necesary step to get the user base on-board with multi-material printing. Multi-extruder setups (like the Prusa XL) allow multi-material printing with almost the same amount of waste as a single colour print (minus the optional purge tower). However, that's also significantly more expensive. Releasing a system like this first makes sense as it will generate market intrest in multi-material printing whilst innovations take place to reduce the cost of multi-extruder setups.

[@anthonylong5870]

@@3DRevolution The Prusa XL is the right way to do it. The overhype i was reffering to was the Bambu AMS. They try to make it this "have fun make a color print" thing but because of the massive waste ans immense time it takes, its really not a feasable option. I mean a 3 color 1 inch pikachu can take almost a half roll of filament just for purge. Thats not sustainable usage. The AMS is actually best for just a refill unit so you dont have to worry about filament running out during a print.

[@BennyTygohome]

Very cool, although i may not use those till just yet. 😂

[@3DRevolution]

I'd say the relief sculpture tool is definitely usable now, but the AI scanner still has some way to go

[@BennyTygohome]

@@3DRevolution that's true, that was pretty slick

[@accumall3027]

Bambu lab is making interesting stuff

[@3DRevolution]

The whole industry is booming at the moment, excited to see what big moves companies make this year.

[@MrSneakyGunz]

I think this would be great for design in fusion or similar. Not straight to print.

[@3DRevolution]

Which feature are you referring to, the scanning?

[@MrSneakyGunz]

I was suggesting that the 3d scan would work well as a model to actually design around. For instance, one could scan something complex and use that model to add a new part or design a replacement part based on the scan(imported into Fusion). I think this would be a more useful application of these scans vs. straight to print.

[@3DRevolution]

@@MrSneakyGunz Hey sorry for the late reply. Absolutely, that is definitely one of the key applications for this sort of thing. Due to the way this scans, it whilst dimensions will be accurate relative to each other, the overall dimensions won't be accurate to begin with so you'd need to take a measurement of one specific part of your object in real life and scale the digital file so that measurement is the same, then it can be great for that sort of thing. I've got a fun mini-series looking at this sort of thing coming up in the next month or two.

[@anthonylong5870]

The relief one is pretty cool and i can see myself trying it, the AI scanner though is just junk i think....

[@3DRevolution]

Absolutely, but the concept the scanner is built on is a prooven tech. Their implementation of it needs to be improved though and even with better systems, they generally need post-processing so Bambu needs to realistically put together a system that can go from phone to printer with no middle man.

[@hollowayndtengineeringinc.5201]

Yup, I had similar disappointing results.

[@Keith-um1pj]

I would have to agree it's a bit gimmicky something to keep the beginners interest. Until improved upon I would have no interest in using this software. As fast as the industry keeps changing I don't think that it will be that long untill it's improved upon. Thank you for the very informative video.

[@3DRevolution]

Definitely keen to see how things develop. Thanks for watching and commenting, happy printing!

[@pHuzi0n]

Taking a 3D model and making it into the same 3D model coming out of a block (with some slight scaling of proportions) is hardly "AI". I hate when tech companies all jump on the latest buzzword to try to seem more advanced than they really are. The video thing might be getting sent through a neural network but the results are unusable (same as what I've seen from AI 3D model generation from text) so it's a waste of time currently.

[@3DRevolution]

True the Relief sculpture tool doesn't appear to be using AI, but the 3D scanning tool is almost certainly using something like gausian splat so as you say will be using a neural network. However, also as you say, the result's are far from end-user safe yet.

[@somdudewillson]

@@3DRevolution Gaussian splatting is not a neural network-based technique. It is a differentiable method of rendering that can be optimized with standard gradient descent methods.

[@3DRevolution]

@@somdudewillson Technically true, but many places do refer to Gausian Splatting as an AI technique, and it does use machine learning to train it. With that and as Bambu Labs call this tool 'AI Scanner' I'm presuming that's the connection to AI that they're using to justify the use of the term AI. Of course it could be another NeRF/GS type model that runs more firmly on AI tech but I've not seen any release of this from Bambu and it's unlikely they will divulge what they are using.

[@ThePhilbox]

Wouldn't it have made sense to use the same iron man mask as a test to compare the technology? Also, neither of those models is really suitable for even photogrammetry without very careful consideration, preparation and 1200 photos.....Good for you, you showed that with poor judgement you could make the technology fail, for whom is that helpful? With good judgment can you make it succeed? 🙄

[@3DRevolution]

I didn't use the IronMan helmet from the previous video because A it's not in the same condition it was after 6.5 years use so wouldn't have been a fare comparison anyway, and also features heavily reflective yet semi translucent parts (the eyes) so although it has fewer smaller parts, in that respect should be far more challenging for something running a system like Gausian Splat. I say in the video that the drone is not a suitable one but an intentionally challenging test. The horse in gas mask however features nothing that should be problematic for this. I have a lot of experience with things like photogrammetry, having done it for over a decade including for the likes of Disney. I also say I didn't shoot these in the best of conditions. However, my point is that Bambu Labs' whole sales point for their printers and service is, making 3D printing accessible to everyone and making it all as easy as possible. So with that, if they are releasing a system like this where they say "record a video of an object and we'll generate a 3D model", for their audience it should at least provide moderate results in less than ideal conditions. This was also just my initial test of these new tools and I will be spending more time on them. I am sorry if you weren't happy with my video though, hope you're having a good weekend.

[@MisterkeTube]

I'm always surprised how the English language butchers words taken from other languages. The "relief" of a sculpture has nothing to do with the feeling when you can finally let go of your pee. It was taken from French (which probably got it from Latin) and a decent pronunciation would have been "ruh-li-ef", but from what I could find back English indeed butchered it ... I hope I'll be able to let this go and get some relief ;-)

[@lucianaguerra8367]

Bambu lab printers break very easily and with this Chinese owned company, expect that worse customer service . They do not service their printers and expect you to do it . The one year warranty is a fluke …

[@3DRevolution]

This video isn't in any way about Bambu Lab printers. These two tools I'm talking about can be used with any printer you like. However, my experience and from most reports I see online, they do not break easily at all, and spare parts of every component are easily available to buy. I know it varies country to country too but in the UK at least, their customer service seems to be pretty good. I've got same day replies from them and it's not felt like I'm being fobbed off. Obviously not quite as good as the 24/7 live technical support you get with Prusa, but not terribly by any means.

[@madmanzila]

Useless shit. ❤

[@3DRevolution]

Please could you clarify whether you're referring to me or the AI scanner, trying to decide whether I should take offence or not. :)