Testing the bus AC electrical system. It's not safe.

[@marinablueGS]

Man, I can hardly believe the extreme butchery going on in that conversion shop. They should be sued out of business. That California couple is extremely fortunate you are fixing all those mistakes. Appreciate the learning opportunities on your channel.

[@allthethingswedo]

Thanks, Barry! My goal isn't just to show work done...whether mine or others...it's to help folks learn a few things. Of course, it's a fine line between that and boring people! I appreciate the support and feedback.

[@wandererradio9751]

We do feel fortunate. This is all happening as it's meant to and I'm glad these bizarre events brought us to Ross.

[@markiefufu]

@@allthethingswedo I might speak for a lot of us or maybe not, but you get no where close to boring. You are actually teaching us in a way that's very understandable.

[@allthethingswedo]

@@markiefufu Why thank you...I shared this with my wife (who might disagree with you!...haha!). But seriously, this is very nice feedback.

[@djpWilson]

I've watched several of these about this bus and it's breathtaking. KZbin amusingly offered me one of the videos from this builder. Not surprisingly, they have their comments turned off...

[@xavierapples1405]

When you do your resistance check, I would make sure that ALL of your devices or equipment is disconnected, otherwise you may be reading the resistance through said device and that’s why you’re getting continuity through your meter at the panel.

[@allthethingswedo]

Absolutely. I think I mentioned that I'd disconnected everything...but if I missed that, it was by mistake. Anything connected will cause a false reading and/or could be damaged.

[@markiefufu]

I've done all of my electrical except my inverter, batteries, and charge controllers. Running off shore power at the moment. I'm picking up information and tips from watching your videos. Glad to say that I'm confident in the work I've done so far. Once finished and on the road, I just might search you out to give my bus a once over. Never hurts to have an expert take a look.

[@cfmechanic]

I have done car electronics for years recently I helped wire up 3 phase power for a friend with a machine shop in for mohave. I am learning alot from your videos

[@rnreajr9184]

We had one of those (called a "Hi-Pot" tester, which I assumed was for high potential). We used it to test potted coils to make sure there were no defects in them. I didn't know that there was a hand-held tester. Now I need one!

[@doninetexas]

If you measure from a hot lead to ground (like you are doing) it can read almost a short if connected to a light bulb (as example) in the bus and the light switch was in the "on" position. But you are 100% right -- AC and DC wiring needs to be checked stem to stern. Thanks for keeping us and the owners posted on progress.

[@badgerpa9]

You should never have voltage or a direct connection from ground to "hot" positive, the ground wire is a safety ground, the neutral and positive carry the voltage. I am not trying to nitpick I think you just meant neutral but others may be confused reading this. The difference in AC and DC voltage confuses many, just when they think they understand it and then it changes.

[@chrisskelhorn5727]

Not only are the people that did the electrical work stupid, but they're dangerous! I think I feel litigation coming on! 😲 Good catch though Ross! I'm kind of looking forward to the remedies for this disaster! 😲 Thank you for sharing! 🙂

[@highway75]

Nothing beats Klein electrical tools thanks for the explanation.

[@paulshannon4576]

Question? Shouldn’t it be White, Black and Green? The Red wire would be for a second circuit?

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

That bus conversion company needs to close their doors before they hurt someone!!!! Thanks!

[@richardkaz2336]

When you do an insulation test (megga test) you need to make sure all appliances or devices (fridge, cook top, water heater, A/C unit etc) are disconnected or unplugged from the circuits being tested. Other wise you will get a false short circuit reading , plus if you happen to test at 1kV or 5kV you may damage any electronics in thoses appliances. In the instance of a MEN system, earth and neutral will be bonded somewhere and give a short cct result. The main requirement is that there is an open cct between active and neutral and that the earth conductor has an impeadance that is

[@allthethingswedo]

Absolutely. I did briefly mention that I checked to make sure nothing was connected...because you only want to check the insulation integrity. But I didn't go into depth on that, so thanks for expanding on it. In this case, there should not have been any pathway or bonding between the neutral or ground. That shouldn't happen in this panel or the branch circuits.

[@benjurqunov]

Neutral and ground are not bonded at a pedestal unless the pedestal is also the point of main service.

[@bruceyoung1343]

Did some HS Dropout do the conversion?

[@simplicity6564]

Scary! Cool meter!

[@raisagorbachov]

LOL. This is why I kept my 120v installation dead simple. The grounds all go to the bus body and from the bus body to the earthline on my shorepower inlet. Further I have a main breaker that will cut off both live and neutral in the event of a leak to earth. All the 12v wiring passes in conduit underneath the bus with only short lengths inside, leading straight up to lights/USB sockets/12v sockets.

[@chrisvig123]

Looks like the entire electrical on the conversion needs to be redone 😯

[@Mr75661]

Thanks for helping these people it's so sad how criminals lie and do shady work!! Even worse they're a company from the great state of Texas!!

[@donalddodson7365]

Very helpful for trouble shooting. Scary that someone apparently had a converter install this shorted AC system! Smells to me like a fire, or electrocution risk.

[@allthethingswedo]

Thank you, sir. I like knowing that these are helpful to others.

[@joewebb4836]

Open all the neutrals....looking for ground faults to chassis....they may have a ground tied together at the load. Good luck!

[@sandertu8366]

And we figured out why the solar is not connected to anything usable, because the previous guy could not figure out how to avoid the breaker tripping.

[@ronaldsexton7106]

How is this shop still in business I would be going after them legally

[@OttoTheWeim]

Hopefully you are documenting this and recording everything as the couple has a responsibility to others to sue them and have the legally liable for this.

[@vaughnfluff3344]

We, along with other Lone Star Skoolie victims, have been doing a lot to stop LSS from victimizing anyone else. We personally have filed complaints with the BBB and the Texas Attorney General. We have a number of other things in the works as well. The videos Rolling Living is sharing are an important part of our bringing awareness, so thank you for watching and following along.

[@OttoTheWeim]

@@vaughnfluff3344 while I do not have a dog in the race, I am however a human and get angry seeing others taken advantage of to such a criminal and negligent degree. Some people may sell their home to embark on a life long dream travel in an RV. Many may not have the added financial freedom to just absorb being scammed like this so you taking actions gives me joy to know that they will be held accountable.

[@badgerpa9]

I am going to bet you will find at least one screw bored into the AC electrical somewhere. The resistance is from the wires making contact via the screw. Just a guess from a few years experience following behind hack jobs on old homes.

[@williamdobson755]

The grd is not connected to the panel..very bad

[@bus_bigbuford4989]

This is terrifying!

[@nicolassales8679]

Here in the UK we generally use RCBOs which are a combined leakage and over current device on every circuit. They are set at 30 milliamps so wouldn't even turn on with that crap wiring!

[@badgerpa9]

North America has breakers that are now required in homes that sense leaks or shorts along with overload. The breakers in this panel are the $2 dollar special that should only be replacements for same in an old box.

[@mrsmith1339]

What due diligence did this wonderful couple do? I would think that they would ask to speak with satisfied cutomers before spending $14,000 on this hot mess. You could sue. Will you collect? Is there anything to collect? The remedies for this disaster is to rip it all out.

[@JoshuaMompher]

Correct me if im wrong but if you meg’d out those wires connected to devices, you are always going to get false readings and potentially damage whatever it’s connected to. I’ve seen thousands of circuits done and it’s always with both ends disconnected. It’s not fun watching motors and drives get blown up by guys trying to meg them connected. Just something to think about.

[@allthethingswedo]

No, you're correct. I thought I mentioned that I'd checked to make sure nothing was connected...if not, I certainly mean to. Nothing was plugged into any receptacle and the AC was not connected. So they should have all megged out okay...but only one or two did. I'm sure they nicked/cut the insulation every time they cut the MC conduit. Butchers!

[@JoshuaMompher]

@@allthethingswedo cool. If you did mention, I apologize. Maybe it was all the cringing I was doing over the build quality that made me miss it! 🤣 Seeing work like this causes me anxiety!

[@allthethingswedo]

@@JoshuaMompher No apology needed! It's a good reminder. That work, and seeing the cut insulation, gave me anxiety too. :-)

[@RedHeart1]

Does the couple that owns the bus have their own YT channel?

[@vaughnfluff3344]

We don’t yet. But we are putting one together that will incorporate our story and redo of our bus and the stories of other LSS victims as well. We’ll keep everyone posted!

[@RedHeart1]

@@vaughnfluff3344 ok cool, I’ll keep an eye out for it. Maybe post here if you start one to let us know the name, and I’ll definitely subscribe.

[@vaughnfluff3344]

@@RedHeart1 great idea! Will do!

[@edwatts9890]

.001MOhm = 1kOhm, but in this case, I believe that this is the lowest reading possible and that the low voltage indicates a "dead" short.

[@allthethingswedo]

Thanks! Decimals...especially live in a video...aren't my strong suit, obviously!

[@edwatts9890]

@@allthethingswedo: ;-)

[@jameswoods7276]

Wow. Just wow. I'm no electrician, just a bit handy. And even I know that job was a complete hack job. Gonna have to basically tear that bus down to the skeleton and start over again.

[@joewebb4836]

With the shore power open, there should be no connection from ground to neutral.

[@TheBigChill1]

As a EU citizen and also as a technician I can't understand why in the US they still use metal conduits and cabinets on electrical installations...Here for more than 40 years that metal is out of any electric installation. Only PVC or other plastic materials are allowed and according to the EU electrical code.

[@badgerpa9]

The metal box is grounded to the ground lead for safety, the BX or armored cable used is required in some places as protection from rodents and other things. The distribution box installed in this is not really an ideal box to use, it is more for industry to use for a distribution panel by equipment or like a hot tub. They should really have a box that has an easy to understand main breaker that stands out from the other breakers so it is safer and simple. In some cities the local code requires all power runs in some type of metal conduit, at least a few years ago they still did.

[@TheBigChill1]

@@badgerpa9 Yup...We used to have that same system...until 40 years ago... Now every electrical equipment box is non metallic for obvious reasons... Anyway...It's a known thing the Electric norms and systems in the US a very outdated...No wonder the massive blackouts and malfunctions on their network.

[@TheBigChill1]

The other thing is how norms can change form county or state to another... Here in all EU countries the norms are the same...what make working much less complicated for any EU citizen in any country, and of course avoid loads of errors and mistakes...

[@TheBigChill1]

@@badgerpa9 But referring to that "installation" on the bus I can only think that was made by complete amateurs... I just regret the owner have even paid for such a crap job in everything.... Personally I haven't seen one thing that was well made or installed...everything is dodgy...!

[@badgerpa9]

@@TheBigChill1 The electric is not the same in all EU countries. Germany is different from most places, I cannot think of all of them but there are differences. In the USA often different local codes vary by local needs, a water line in Florida could be safe a foot under ground but in the MIdwest like Wisconsin it needs to be 5-6 feet (2 meters) underground for frost protection. Some places have a lot of rats like Chicago and New York so having wiring in conduit keeps it safer than romex. I agree with you the bus is a mess and any time code is consistent is great but sometimes it needs to be different for the location.

[@Omegaman1969]

It's weird you guys over the pond use Black for live :-) we used to use it for neutral and red for live.....that made more sense being red is dead.

[@tigerspook1]

It seems everything in that bus is an accident waiting to happen, surely the company who created this diabolical dangerous mess, should be held accountable for putting those two lovely people in such danger,...?????

[@howietorock]

O. L MEANS OPEN LOOP AND 0.0001 IS A DEAD SHORT SO HIGH RESISTANCE

[@barrow_me]

These videos are like watching a slow-moving train wreck. I keep trying to look away, but I can't! Furthermore, I have to assume that the conversion company is just a scam outfit. Everything about this build is so bad, I can't believe it's just plain ignorance. 🤬

[@garymunson2493]

This is so painful to watch. There is just SO MUCH wrong with that build that just stripping it all out and starting over would be so much more productive. There is a fair amount of quality product there that could be reused if it was just redone correctly. Sadly, with the lack of appliable code to the build, what could you really hope to accomplish by suing the obviously inept conversion company? As the bus does not permanently attach to the grid, the National Electrical Code simply becomes a "guideline", rather than a requirement. Hate to see how these poor people were scammed.

[@Justthe2ofUs843]

Don't understand why you would not mention the name of the company. It would only prevent someone else from falling pray to this people and perhaps save someone a hardship.

[@vaughnfluff3344]

My husband, Oz, and I are the owners of this bus. We’ve actually been pretty open about who the builders are, Lone Star Skoolie in San Antonio. We just felt that it was better coming from us. And yes, it is our hope that by getting their name out there and allowing the community to see what they have done to our bus will prevent others from falling victim as we have.

[@barrow_me]

@@vaughnfluff3344 Y'all are saints. I am so sorry that this happened to you and hope that you're made whole at some point in the not-too-distant future. Stay strong; stay positive!

[@vaughnfluff3344]

@@barrow_me thank you so much ❤️ If anyone is a saint it is Ross. We just want to make sure no one else is victimized as we have been. We have been overwhelmed and humbled by the outpouring of support we have received from the community. We know our bus is in good hands now, we still have our dream, it will just take a little longer ❤️

[@dwjr5129]

Jeez…

[@andrewdole3922]

A regular multimeter will work for this test

[@allthethingswedo]

A multimeter can do a lot, but it cannot test insulation like a megger can. The megger sends high voltage through the wires and has enabled me to find insulation failures in buses and renewable energy installations that I was not able to find with a multimeter.

[@johannesdesloper8434]

oh man 3rd vid I saw what a mess that company makes.. shamefull.

[@johannesdesloper8434]

yeah these guys shouldn't be allowed to install electric stuff anymore.. they are gonnah kill people.

[@briandavis9975]

That's scary I'm sure whoever built the system had to feel a static charge every time they plugged or turned on a switch not everyone should do wiring sad day for the owner they got lucky having you look it over. This don't build this bus this way just keeps getting better and better just kidding it's disgusting that someone called it craftsmanship at all.

[@allthethingswedo]

I think I know, now, why the inverter wasn't connected to the panel... no power, no shocks!

[@Oregontrailblazin]

@@allthethingswedo does it even work? Inverter ? lol

[@allthethingswedo]

@@Oregontrailblazin Good question! The display comes on...but I haven't checked it. It might be a first!

[@briandavis9975]

Exactly why it's not hooked up it's got back feed issues I'm assuming the whole thing is a shame

[@Oregontrailblazin]

@@allthethingswedo first it needs striped and done right !

[@Oregontrailblazin]

Butchered!! Were they on Meth ? Unbelievable ..