Testo 760-2 vs Fluke 117 Multimeter - which is best?

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Kiss Analog

Kiss Analog

Күн бұрын

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@Jeepjones85
@Jeepjones85 3 жыл бұрын
Very awesome review I watched the whole thing in one setting lol I’m a fluke guy but I use Testo’s hvacr gauges I’m very impressed with this meter
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
LOL thank you!! I do like this testo!
@sukhoi3535
@sukhoi3535 5 ай бұрын
High voltage man 🌹​@@KissAnalog
@Arman-jn3dz
@Arman-jn3dz 3 жыл бұрын
It's like James Hetfield is comparing two meters, Awesome. Man you ROCK!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
LOL perfect!!
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza 3 жыл бұрын
I just said the same fucking thing ohh yeah... of Multimeter and Man Master of Electronics For whom the multimeter beeps LMFAO
@engineclinic
@engineclinic 3 жыл бұрын
This was hands down the best meter battery compartment review I have ever seen!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Mike;)
@friedmule5403
@friedmule5403 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and very interesting! I have to say that you have exceeded yourself, you have gotten much much better at keeping things fluent and connected. It all feels more casual and natural, like you are "just" talking to us, sitting at your bench. Also, your editing is gotten way more invisible than in the start! And lol your humor at 16:15 LOL $40 earthquake!! :-) The Only thing I found was at 29:25 where somebody forgot to edit. About the length, to me was the video not to long at all, you had new information all throughout the video and that do make your video feel like it's a perfect length:-)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fried Mule! I always look for your feedback - you have helped me more than I can say;) I might have been getting a little punchy editing this;) I took out an hour, so I'm surprised it didn't come out choppy. Thank you!!
@msclecarcrzy
@msclecarcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
I have the fluke 116 for hvac use and it has lasted me over 15yrs but I'm impressed by the testo. It pretty much beats the fluke on every test. Amazon has it on sale right now so I'm gonna pull the plug and get it! Thanks for the "extended" review
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the Testo is a great meter and does have a much better display. I really like the Testo meter:)
@robc8468
@robc8468 Жыл бұрын
You will probably never get 15 yeara of service out of a TESO.....
@DocFirewire
@DocFirewire 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a german designed Multimeter on a US-Channel! As a former HVAC-Guy I know Testo very well, as they are the Quasi-Standard for Emissions Testing Equipment in Germany, they expanded their Range of measuring equipment just a few years ago to other stuff like e.g. Multimeters. I personally like everything good, no matter where its from but I must say, the Testo 760 is a very unique Multimeter by any regards and I like it a lot! I own and work with Tektronix, Agilent, Sanwa, Fluke and others, so I know whats on the market. Great Video and Comparsion, keep up the good work!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do like my Testo a lot! Great meter - small size and nice large disiplay!
@vizkoze
@vizkoze 4 жыл бұрын
In that price range, you should give Brymen meters a spin. Their specifiactions are on par with fluke and are certified.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I agree! Not only are their specs as good - they offer more features for less money and have better displays - by far!
@xero299
@xero299 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Just bought the Testo 760-3. Thanks for putting up these videos. Much appreciated.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I tried to find the -3 version but had to settle for the -2. I am really enjoying this meter on the bench. Just a fun meter to use and great display!!
@xero299
@xero299 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really great and capable for its price. I didn’t get the temp probe adapter in the 760-3 package but that’s not a big deal. Couldn’t be happier with my purchase
@therealtech833
@therealtech833 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Testo - 0590 7602 along with several accessories, love the two different size alligator clips. Large alligator clip is wide enough to go onto a car battery lug or a main panel lug. Using the meter in the field daily is a joy, easy one handed operation, quick accurate results. The optional magnet hanger works very well also.
@WolfgangWittler1984
@WolfgangWittler1984 2 жыл бұрын
Roasted Fluke 😀. Thanks for this review. I like my old Fluke 175, but since two years i leave it in my workshop. For my service jobs i only use my Testo 770-3 clamp meter. That do the job pretty well, and i learned to love it. Please continue with such outstanding reviews like that.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wolfgang!! I do like the Testo;)
@NocturneVid66
@NocturneVid66 3 жыл бұрын
As always a well thought out video review. As a Fluke calibration tech, I must add my input if you don't mind. Our customers send in their Fluke meters on a yearly basis for routine calibration. If the meter hasn't been abused, it usually passes its calibration and goes right back to its owner. I wish we could say that about many of the other brands we calibrate. We also do calibrations on our Fluke meters used in-house. It is the norm that a 20 year old Fluke 189 (my favorite) will pass its calibration, it is also the norm that a 30 year old Fluke 77 or 87 will, or even a Fluke 2060 will also pass calibration. After calibrating many of them, it is my conclusion that many Am***** meters struggle to pass calibration when brand new, and as the norm fail their second calibration when they come back after a year. Part of the premium price you pay for a Fluke meter is the assurance it will meet its specs for years to come.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great feedback! You are a great person to ask these questions? I’m curious, have you experience with other premium brands that still cost much less, like FLIR, testo, Brymen/Greenlee, or Hioki, to name a few? Also, I’m curious as to how much drift a meter has away from its calibrated range that makes it fail calibration? So if it’s specs call for 0.5% and it is O.7% it fails calibration but anyone using it wouldn’t be able to tell? Finally, how do the lower end Flukes fair, like this 117 or the 18B+, as they are still premium priced but do not have near the features as their competitors? When I open a meter and don’t see the trimmed resistors on the ceramic type boards, it doesn’t surprise me that the meter could drift, but I still wouldn’t think it would be much. Your thoughts?
@NocturneVid66
@NocturneVid66 3 жыл бұрын
I really can't answer your first question well as I have had very limited experience working with other brands. Usually only the more established domestic brands are sent in for calibration. We don't do many calibrations of DMMs at our facility but I do see older units used in-house sent in for testing. We use a guard-banding technique in our measurements. The 0.5% spec you mentioned would be considered 100% out of tolerance. We grade any test reading 70% of that or more as marginal but still passing. Our ideal is all readings at 70% or less as fully in tolerance. Out of tolerance units are adjusted back into spec if possible. My favorite 189 meter can be adjusted back into tolerance using a software Cal/ Adjust program communicating through its IR port. This should only be done with a calibrator having specs an order of magnitude greater than the tested unit. Fluke is one of the 6 places in the world that has a world reference Volt. I've never seen the setup, but it is kept in a special temp controlled room and the calibrators which test the calibrators which test the calibrators I use are compared to it. I can't comment much on the newer meters, but the in-house ones I test have been keeping in spec for the few years I've been testing them. One correction I need to make, I typo'ed the name of the 8060 meter in my first reply. This meter, which is almost 40 years old, will read 4 digits below the decimal. I still get about a dozen units a year which come in, pass their cal, and go back out without any fuss. This reputation is why many folks are willing to pay more for Fluke gear.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation. I’ve always used Fluke without thought - until this channel, and then I realize many are like me - they just default to Fluke base on a reputation. But, once you look around, there are other brands that have worked hard in improving the functions and features, while I think Fluke rests on their loyal customers and reputation. Their metes are getting dated but the cost keeps going up. I swear the military industry keeps them making money so they don’t have to work harder…IMHO. Doing this channel, I realize that other meters are a better buy and offer better performance. And, the electronics today make it easier to make a multimeter, or an oscilloscope for that matter. Many Flukes cost more than an Oscilloscope today. So, I’m no longer a Fluke fan;)
@kiet489
@kiet489 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know why people gave you thumb down and stuff but you're awesome
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I think some people are just so loyal to Fluke;)
@IliyaOsnovikov
@IliyaOsnovikov 4 жыл бұрын
My 25-year-old Fluke 76 is as acurate today as it was brand new. It was never tested or calibrated in any lab. Lately I had compared it with one fairly fresh Fluke 85V and they exactly matched. But that 76 was still "made in the USA".
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! Yes I also have some Flukes from many years ago;) I also have some inexpensive Radioshack meters that also operate as they did back in the 80s;) Modern solid-state electronics should not drift that much, so we should have high expectations.
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of the Fluke 17B+ meters for $120 and its a solid fluke quality meter, feels looks and performs liike it should with the Fluke name. I have a lot of meters but wanted to have one Fluke for more serious work. Very pleased with it. mine also came with the stiff TL75 leads, I bought a set of the TL71 leads and they ARE silicone.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I've been tempted to buy that meter - thanks for the feedback! I was surprised at how stiff those leads are! I like this testo too. Thank you!
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Yes its pretty good and feels like quality in the hand, but id call it a general use more like electricians meter and if it matter theres no bar graph but no matter to me -- but im just a layman so thats only my sketchy opinion-lol. that Testo is pretty impressive, seems more sophisticated than the fluke, more useful in lower ranges too it appears, one of the first of what they call full auto meters ive seen that works really well.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
@@yambo59 I agree - it does seem to work well - and is fast at deciding which mode then which range. I like using it.
@jutukka
@jutukka 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this review is a HUGE one! I'll watch it ASAP, if I live long enough to have time to watch it from start to end.😁 I admire your passion and energy to over and over again make videos which really go very deep to the subject. 👍
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks so much!
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
In the end, doesnt really look like the Fluke measures up for what it costs, the Testo costs less and its notably more sophisticated with better range in some areas.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that! I agree. Not that I don't think they both could cost a bit less, but Fluke I think has raised the bar so high for what people are willing to pay (high pain threshold;), that the competition says - well, we can charge a lot - but not that much - that's crazy! ;)
@poppynokc1977
@poppynokc1977 8 күн бұрын
Best review I've seen, by a mile!!!!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 8 күн бұрын
Wow! Thanks! I appreciate you!
@fuloplehel
@fuloplehel 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review, exactly what I was looking for. Testo actually has a subsidiary in my country. But first I searched for a review on this meters, and I find your video. Actually this is the only meter in this testo 760 series with the temperature probe adapter included in the package. After watching this video, i ordered the testo 760-2, and next day it was delivered. And since then I ordered the testo 770-2 clamp meter, with a unique clamp mechanism, it is very easy to use. Both are great for maintenance work The clamp meter has a rotary switch, but due to the retracting mechanism, it is not very compact,.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! What country are you in? I really like my Testo;)
@fuloplehel
@fuloplehel 2 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog I am from Romania,, we have some action here, NATO military, Ucrainean refugees. But we have to do our work. And we need tools, Testo is making nice tools, but sone of them are expensive.,like thermal cameras. I recently bought on thermal camera from Bosch, the Testo ones are more expensive. Maybe when this war comes to an end, I will invest more in this tools.
@athenian10
@athenian10 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Kiss Analog! Some comments from the pro side of view, are for all multimeters that you are reviewing. Very correct that you distinguish electricians' use and electronics tech use. You/we in this field may need to separate the industrial electrician and commercial electrician use. Industrial electricians need the most safety on their meters (CAT IV or CATIII 1000V at least). Electronic technicians exist on the field as well as in the lab too. So the LowZ feature is a must for all those in the field no matter what they do. Low pass VAC is definitely important for the industrial environment. The mV DC good resolution is extremely useful for automation projects and also for the bench. Low ohms good resolution has also its importance either on the bench (if there is no bench multimeter) but in the field too sometimes. The leads are of bigger importance than some folks might think. The analog bar for electronic engineers/technicians is a strong reason not to buy a good, in all aspects, but not having an analog bar, multimeter. By the way I like the Testo meter as sometimes in the field I prefer to push a button than rotate. Keep up the good work.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great feedback!
@beotheguitarist
@beotheguitarist 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it About the non contact voltage on the fluke. The Hi means high sensitivity, and if you press the range button it goes to "Lo" setting for low sensitivity.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I did have this pointed out to me;) I hate to review an item without first checking to see how it works, but I missed this. The Hi setting I think is just unusable, but the Lo setting works as it should. I showed this in another video where I showed this meter again - comparing it to another Fluke ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp3RgGmLjbSYY6M
@beotheguitarist
@beotheguitarist 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Great. I just discovered your videos and I like the reviews. I'm subscribing!
@stryderx1
@stryderx1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the new episode. Keep up the good work.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I appreciate you!
@microknigh7
@microknigh7 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody can say we don't get our monies worth out of you Eddie ;-) Nice thorough review, thanks
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate you!
@The-H-inADHD
@The-H-inADHD 3 жыл бұрын
It was long but I enjoyed it. I have been wanting to get some real good info on comparison of Fluke with others. My first meter, which was just recently was a Fluke 116. Which mine is for HVAC but I wanted a good meter and couldn't find much on comparing it to others. Most meter videos are only on the cheaper meters. Thank you for the great video! Which I think my next meter will be a Testo now!
@therealtech833
@therealtech833 3 жыл бұрын
The Testo rocks...
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! I appreciate the feedback;)
@masquedebe713
@masquedebe713 3 жыл бұрын
Well I watched the entire two hour video and feel I have to comment to affirm my decision to watch the entire two hour video. First I wanna say that I did get a lot from watching it and you have definitely influenced my decision making process as I am getting ready to pull the trigger on one of these. I think I figured out why the Fluke was so sensitive. That high ohm setting puts the meter in P.K.E. Mode and since (obviously) you are possessed it goes off when you get close or touch it. It could be that it is affected by your magnetic personality. In any case I noticed the bong with the red wire spools and am very impressed that you calibrate your electronic bong with all those multi-meters. All kidding aside, thank you for a very comprehensive (and long) review. PS. I can’t remember when, if ever, I watched a movie length review on KZbin but the fact that I did speaks to how informative I found your review to be so again, thanks.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
LOL Thanks for watching it;) Let us know what you decide on an how you like it.
@OtoMatikWorkz
@OtoMatikWorkz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. For this informative video. I like your content. Sending a full support from phils manila.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Great to hear from our friends in Manila;)
@ndodd6280
@ndodd6280 4 жыл бұрын
Great review man, cheers! I was tempted by the Testo as I used to use some of their data loggers at work, ended up going for Beha-Amprobe AM-535 in the end. I like these smaller Flukes, I just don't think they do enough to justify the extra money over the competition. I could get a Brymen BM235 AND and Amprobe AM-555 for the price of the Fluke in the UK
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome feedback - thank you! I totally agree with you. I did a rant on this before this video - have you seen that? ;) I was always a Fluke guy, but now that my eyes have been opened I would rather have - say an amprobe and say and a clamp on for instance - for what I'd pay for in a Fluke. BTW, I really like my Amprobe (they are also owned by the same company that owns Fluke).
@aripudjowibowo8197
@aripudjowibowo8197 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! especially for range capacitance.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@electronone5219
@electronone5219 4 жыл бұрын
The. NCV I think is like a gimmick. The pen detector type is more reliable. What good does it do an electrician if you cannot isolate where the dangerous voltages is located. That Fluke might be defective. I say if you are a paranormal investigator--it might work as a ghost detector--lol. The Testo seems to be an interesting meter. I think you should gives us a follow up video. Thank You.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I think you are right. I should do a follow up. I need to show the LO sensitivity level in the FLUKE (didn't know it was there). The HI setting is useless or defective. But you are right - maybe I should review it for a paranormal investigation channel - I'b probably get a lot of hits;)
@11orchids
@11orchids 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Thank you..
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@fremountstsongsrich2453
@fremountstsongsrich2453 3 жыл бұрын
Your missing something about the Fluke has a Ac Dc dector you turn the fluke all the way to the left and you get near a live outlet it will sound .
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, but if you look at min 44 I start testing the non contact volt alert. Fluke has a low and high sensitivity; the low sensitivity works ok, but the high sensitivity is crazy useless - IMHO;)
@sunuk1915
@sunuk1915 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you dear for new episode 🤩💐
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your continued support!
@sunuk1915
@sunuk1915 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog you are always welcome dear
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 2 жыл бұрын
KNOWLEDGEABLE Kiss Anulog Thank you very helpful video 👍 👌 From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
@jsccr13
@jsccr13 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a testo manometer years ago and that thing still does what it’s supposed to. I’ve been looking to replace my multimeter and was curious to see if testo made them. And apparently they are pretty good according to you. Yea I’m getting one.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! I do like my Testo meter.
@remcovantriest4357
@remcovantriest4357 Жыл бұрын
Very nice detailed review. I appreciate your efforts a lot 🙏 keep it up👌🏻I got a 760-3 for fieldwork, the uA function is used a lot to measure flame rectification signals. (specially Testo couldn't deliver a meter without this range, as their origen is combustion measurement equipment) At home at my bench I got a Brymen 789. As for showing up with a customer onsite without a Fluke, couldn't care less. I mean if you know your stuff the answer is very short and simple 😂😂 don't follow the 🐑 and know your tools.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great feedback! I totally agree - it shows that you know your stuff and might provide a topic of discussion where the customer will end up impressed that you know more than 'the other guys';)
@robinnesting3811
@robinnesting3811 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked this! Looking at these meters in this kind of depth and really thinking about what the features do, and what they don't do, helped crystalize a thought that I've been having for a while. I think it's important to understand that different multimeters are meant for different tasks? A tack hammer and a sledge hammer are not interchangeable tools, and maybe we as a community should begin applying that kind of understanding to multimeters? The Fluke's NCV feature would be essentially useless in most laboratory settings, but might be ideal for finding power lines behind walls? If I am wiring an HVAC system, likely I won't need a meter that reads capacitance into the nano farad range, but if I'm designing implantable medical devices I likely don't need protection from gigavolt transients? I wonder if we could use some sort of category or type designators to apply broadly to meters to make it easier to compare between use cases more reasonably?
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin for the very insightful feedback. I think you are right in every comment. I think these two meters both kind of cross over to both worlds. Fluke has the low z and testo has the low pass filter, but neither has both. But then they have good electronic capability too;) Both great meters.
@BlendworthPH
@BlendworthPH 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant comparison.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@ZopcsakFeri
@ZopcsakFeri 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! It would have been great to switch the sensitivity of the Fluke 117 from Hi to Lo, then it might have been easier to tell what exactly it was picking up in the Non-Contact Voltage Alert. Love the functionality of that other brand today, but having a turn knob just drives me nuts! :D I'm amazed how they just ditched it...
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, I realized that there is two levels on this Fluke. I tested this in the next video that I used this meter on. The high sensitivity is just unusable. I really have gotten used to the testo and it ends up taking less time changing the meter as it will often find the right setting for me, and when it doesn't its just a push of a button vs cranking the knob around. I thought I wouldn't like it at first, but then I decided to pick up one of these to try it out.
@ZopcsakFeri
@ZopcsakFeri 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog I just realized it looks like az old Nokia 3510 cellphone! :D
@paulb4496
@paulb4496 2 жыл бұрын
As a Major Appliance Technician I had an Amprobe RS 3 and a UEI M75 then an M110. I still have 2 M110s.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul - great to hear!
@gteague
@gteague Жыл бұрын
i didn't get through all the comments as i'm coming very late to this, but at around1:20:xx where you think the 117 is acting squirrelly, i note that you are at the range borders at 600 and 6000 ohms and wasn't this the very behavior you described back in the first part of the video-that the fluke would blank the screen and display /OL/ when it passed a range parameter? /guy
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! I think the 117 is 16 year old design, so that might expain why it isn't up to the testo - or many other 6k count meters. It is also very expensive for a 6k count meter - especially when it comes with such terrible test leads - IMHO.
@chrismorgan200
@chrismorgan200 Жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie, thanks for the detailed comparison. The Testo appears to be a very nice bit of kit, but the one thing that concerns me is the fact that it relies on relays to carry out the mode switching, as opposed to the more common, manually-actuated dial switch. A dial switch might look a bit outdated, but it removes any failure modes associated with relay failure. There may even be safety implications here, e.g. if one of the mode switching relays fails without the user realising. The user might attempt to measure a mains AC voltage and not have the meter in the correct mode; I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this.
@aicisha
@aicisha 3 жыл бұрын
A good alternative to Fluke can be the Hioki: super fast autorange, autohold, probes with gold-plated tip, nice robust rotary switch... Worth checking!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The specs look great and the display looks good. I'll try to find one at a good price;)
@aicisha
@aicisha 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog can't wait to see it!
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie, you made a little mistake in the modelnr, it is the Testo 760-2 :-) I known the brand Testo for many years, and this a brand that is very known for his measuring tools in the HVAC branche, my central heating technician use a Testo meter to measure the air/fuel mixture on my oil fuel burner. I have also seen another tool of Testo in use, for detecting leaks in oil fuel tanks by the use of ultrasonic sound, and with results in minutes,even for a tank of more then 4000 litres, very impressive.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bjorn! I corrected that;) The testo meter looks to be a great product at a nice price. Thank you for that feedback!
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog , when i first Google that modelnr 740-2 , i didn't find anything, so i though it is maybe a prototype :-) But when i took a look at the Testo site, i saw the typo. The Testo is indeed a very nice DMM, here in Belgium available for 171,43€ I'm looking for a few weeks now, for a replacement for my Aneng AN8009, but can't decide. It must have True RMS and preferable LoZ.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I have been enjoying the testo for the short time that I've had it;)
@actionjackson9408
@actionjackson9408 3 жыл бұрын
I was curious if the 'Hold' button on the Testo works like the 'Hold' button on the Fluke 87 V, which is great, or the 'Hold' button on the Fluke 117 which is meh.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Great question Action Jackson! The 87 Hold is interesting because it updates with the voltage changing - which is great for some people and might not work for others. lt doesn't freeze a measurement in time that you might want - it will update as the voltage changes. This is interesting because the min/max button does a very similar thing but also stores the min value during the time of interest and the max as well as the average. The Testo Hold will hold/freeze the measurement that you have when you hit the button - which is probably what a lot of people want. Then Testo also has the min/max that will capture the max and min voltages as well as the average and will update as the voltage keeps chaning - ether higher or lower updating these 3 measurements.
@minilab9030
@minilab9030 2 жыл бұрын
Never without my Fluke 117. It cannot range milliamps or microamps....but has a high or low sensitivity voltage alert, and a low impedance (Low-Z...[Edit: built in 3k ohm resistor I think]) setting to exclude ghost voltages when testing cables etc. I confess to using it as a Voltage alert in circumstances for which it was not designed....probably giving rise to a false sense of security, but really like the heft of it....great design. Unlike US made Flukes, which come with a lifetime warranty, this US designed China assembled Fluke 117 only comes with a 3-year warranty...but great value and super useful handheld....you can change settings one handed, and it has useful safety features
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! I love my Fluke 189, but the 'lifetime warranty' is only as good as the time they decide to support it, so it is actually about 10 years for most meters I think. Today there are just so many better options IMHO;)
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
That fluke is in the high sensitivity setting, its is showing its in the high sensitivity setting, there should be a low sensitivity setting as well thats only sensitive close up.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I did read over the manual - but obviously not close enough. The high setting The low setting is Matt four flush mount receptacles and the high setting is for recessed power sockets. But it is obviously unusable when just holding it sets it off. It is a handheld instrument after all. I am sorry for not finding it in the manual before, thank you for pointing this out - much appreciated!
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Hey nothing to be sorry about, I should have realized youde find out eventually anyway
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you brought it up;)
@wcjames1189
@wcjames1189 Жыл бұрын
Turn the volt alert to LOW sensitivity. Its in the directions, and toggles using the push button on the front face
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I did finally figure that out. But the high sensitivity was just unusable. I returned that unit and the replacement is better. So there seems to be a quality control issue. IMHO
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
That odd sensitivy makes me wonder if the fluke lacks shielding against outside interference
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I need to do a follow up video, I found that this Fluke has two sensitivity levels. The low sensitivity level works much better. Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate you!
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yea ya must have found that before seeing my comment on it, seems like NCV functions in general should all have a sensitivity setting to increase usefulness.
@electronone5219
@electronone5219 4 жыл бұрын
That was my thought or it's just defective
@NocturneVid66
@NocturneVid66 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, that's a great bench setup. I get a case of gear envy when I watch your videos. I'm still building my projects on the dining room table.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks! That is awesome! At least you are building projects;)
@bazyluuu
@bazyluuu 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie, thank you for superb review! After watching I just bought Testo and I'm wanting for package😅 I already have Testo 750-3 voltage tester which impress me with build quality. I really like the layout of buttons instead of the old fashion wheel in 760-2. Another big "+" of Testo - you can find really good deal on the Amazon.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Let us know how you like it. I really like mine, and it has become one of my favorite meters. I wasn't sure if I'd like push button and auto selection over the dial, but I do;) It works great! One thing I've heard is that some think it is slow, and that's probably due to it deciding what it is reading and auto setting. But, in that case you just have to push the button to what you want which is still faster than rotating a knob that also usually takes two hands. Auto ranging dial meters can be slow too as they autorange. In that case put a dial meter in manual range and then you have speed, but I'll bet no one does this as a fraction of a second wait is no big deal;)
@bazyluuu
@bazyluuu 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Thank you! I'll do! Refering to speed I heard the same argument (about being slower) when people was upgrading from manual range and now all seems to use autorange 😅
@versace885
@versace885 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie, I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@fredflickinger643
@fredflickinger643 Жыл бұрын
I curious if the Testo's IP rating is based on having the blank plugs installed.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Great question. The 760-2 does not but maybe the 760-3 does with the higher IP rating. But I think that usually becomes a thing when the rating gets up to IP67.
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching the video off and on, this high area sensitivity does not seem normal especially for a high quality Fluke, again seems like its not shielded well enough against outside interference, or as you said theres just something off kilter in the meter.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I did find that there is a low sensitivity level, but the high sensitivity level is useless - almost - at least it verifies that I am alive;)
@AlienSD
@AlienSD 3 жыл бұрын
very good detailed review.. 👍🏻👌🏼fluke dmm's are very much costly.. its good that competition is going on.. thanks for this video.. u r good at it man.. 👍🏻
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton
@jesterraj
@jesterraj 3 жыл бұрын
Question? is the bar graph really useful on todays meters? Whats their purpose ? Maybe you can do a video on it...cheers!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great question - and great idea! Thanks Raj!!
@neail5466
@neail5466 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, thank you for the brand insight for Fluke I used to think them a gold standard, unfortunately........., I haven't heard of Testo thanks for the info I would like to test them in future. After this, I would like to see you comparing Sanwa vs rest. I personally find them lagging on the capacitance side, please let us know your thoughts, A detailed video will be great, if possible please include your thoughts of the bar graphs. +1
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind feedback! I agree, it is too bad that the bean counters can ruin a gold standard...but I suppose it happens too often:( But over the years some other great meters have popped up. I am very interested in the Sanwa meters, and I am now on the hunt for one. I think I may have something soon;)
@neail5466
@neail5466 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Thank you for responding, I respect japanese std. Those never let me down I hope you will find them on par too. And about Fluke I think it is the time to break out from the fantasy.😔
@avejst
@avejst 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.👍🙂
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
You bet! I appreciate you!
@MarcelHuguenin
@MarcelHuguenin 3 жыл бұрын
Fluke definitely doesn't like you anymore Eddie :-P I didn't notice the video was actually that long! I think it was a cool comparison review and I like the Testo a lot. It would cost me some €175,- but have to save a little bit before I can buy. I want it! (for comparison: the 117 would cost €303 with the same supplier, not far from double the price)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! And with the Fluke you have to immediately go out and buy test leads;) At the same price I'd still choose the Testo. I've enjoyed using it on the bench since this video. The Fluke is in the package.
@MarcelHuguenin
@MarcelHuguenin 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog As can often be with big brand names, paying for the name while other products can outperform them.
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
Good outlook. It's why I have a uni-t ut61e+. I used to have bad dmm fomo but I've let my dreams of owning a high count hioki or a brymen b786. Kinda hard to think about what could've been though Ed. Ehh Ed.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like your Uni-T?
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog it's good man. I paid too much for it but you can get the original for half the price and mod it with a better backlight. This one has slightly better input protection. With the probemasters it updates quick. I'll be happy with it for a while but I want one eventually with proper input protection like with bushman fuses and movs and such. When I started rebuilding my lab after the break in I was going to get a fluke 87 but I split the money up and bought other things, like a better awg and better pc. I still haven't gotten my guitars back. One I fully customized for a fortune. I'm so bitter about thr guitars that I can't bring myself to repair one of my old shred guitars to suit my current play style. I just got a new soldering station and hopefully a better oscilloscope or 3d printer that can print stronger plastics for my projects. I had a small print farm you could say but I'm down to one now just to sink money back into my workshop. They were the only things left unharmed. Even my ps5 was pulled to pieces but I took it to bits and replaced the hdmi port. They realized they ripped it out and just stamped on it. Insurance got out of paying on a loophole. I make decent money but unnecessary renovations Trump me getting new gear. I had a 4 monitor setup and they broke every one of them. Sorry for rambling, yeah I like the meter, it's quick and accurate. Sorry man, medication makes me Ramble brother hahaha
@wolfgangrichter6088
@wolfgangrichter6088 7 ай бұрын
The Fluke just wants to say Hi to you ! You have to answer "Hi, Flukie" then its satisfied. Yes it uses its beeper as a condenser microphone so it can understand you. Thats also why you should never talk disrespectful about your Fluke when its present.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 7 ай бұрын
LOL love it!
@oal2928
@oal2928 2 жыл бұрын
The reason professionals use fluke is not because it’s the best, it’s to convince the costumer you used a well known multimeter. It’s to avoid a headache.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! But if the customer is wise enough to recognize a particular brand, then it might be a great conversation piece to explain why you do not simply follow the pack (sheep;) and that you made a better decision when you made your multimeter purchase. This provides an opportunity to win your customer over understanding that they are working with a thinking person;)
@testboga5991
@testboga5991 Жыл бұрын
Virtually no customer has any idea which multimeter is good or bad.
@timothygrupp
@timothygrupp 4 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if IBEW Locals have tool lists for their members that mandate Fluke meters which would account for the "built-in" bias towards the brand. (Maybe some readers here are IBEW members and could enlighten us.)Testo is a clear winner in my mind and is less expensive as well. The safety feature of lead awareness is worth its weight in gold. Also the extreme sensitivity of the Fluke VoltAlert feature would not be useful in a room of circuit panels with hundreds/thousands of circuits terminating therein. (I do think you nailed the location of the antenna/sensor for the VoltAlert as that metal "shield" that is connected at a single point--as I have seen wonky results of EMI emissions testing using very much the same configuration.) A very good video comparison of the two--long but I don't see that you could make it much more concise with the complete treatment.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Great comments Tim! I was thinking that if people were aware that there was this favoritism, that I think comes from habit more than anything. I know the defense contractors that I have worked for have to give fair play, and if this was know then the purchasing agents might be forced to compete bids. But, then there is so much leasing instead of buying - so I wonder if that's another way it slips by the fair act policies? I know there is a certain company that does not want me opening peoples eyes...;)
@tommyh4049
@tommyh4049 4 жыл бұрын
I believe most large companies justify buying fluke for tax write off purposes as opposed to being better for the job. As long as a piece of equipmemt meets specs for the job being performed, the companies will pay top dollar for the product for passing of legal liability off to test equipment manufactuer. In my line of work I have company issued Fluke fiber optic visual fault locater. Yes it works as intended but a $10 ebay chinese fault locator is the bees knees when it comes to being able to see faults when the sun is hitting your fiber lines...bottom line is data sheet specs says the Fluke laser power level won't damage fiber plant facilities but is next to useless for anyone working outside vs chinese laser specs are said to damage the sensors but will make it look like xmas show if there is a fault.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommyh4049 Wow - that's great info! Is there a meter somewhere inbetween? I agree with you that companies just like to lease and write off. It is hard to justify that at a lower price point.
@markadams2765
@markadams2765 4 жыл бұрын
At 51:14 you didn't set the fluke 117 to mV DC classic mistake and is why you were having different readings on the meters. Your bench equipment must be radiating a fair amount mains , because my fluke 117 does not sound off like yours. To change from HI to LO sensitivity you press the range button. You loose your IP rating when you break IP seals and you shouldn't be using meters in wet environments. The only issue with fluke 117 also 179 is the crap leads. The Tetso I don't like it's push button style the poor use of LCD screen space , use of relays. I believe they have made an over complicated meter. (how many milliamps do the relays draw?)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark for your feedback! But the Fluke is set at mVDC, it actually has the manual setting for that. The testo automatically selects that. I'm sorry, I missed the LO setting in the manual. I thought that Hi meant high voltage as in other meters and Lo was for low voltage detection. I tried it in LO sensitivity and it works as it should, but the HI still is useless. I have a number of meters and they don't go off like that on my bench. The HI setting is just way to sensitive in my meter. The IP ratings are important - and Fluke does use them in their top of the shelf meters. For anyone working outside - there will be times when you get wet - and it is imperative that moisture does not get inside the meter - or no CAT rating will help you. So, that's why Fluke offers it in their high-end meters and just about everyone else offers a better IP rating than FLUKE in their electrician meters. I've been on a Navy ship where mist is all around and everything is getting a bit wet. You can't tell the Navy commander that you are using an overpriced FLUKE without sufficient IP rating, so you better have a meter that does have a good IP rating.
@markadams2765
@markadams2765 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Look on your video at 51mins 14 seconds the fluke117 display is showing AC mV
@deterdamel7380
@deterdamel7380 3 жыл бұрын
The unpopulated device on the top of the PCB could be reserved for a bluetooth module. Fluke marketing may sell this as 'magic knowledge transmission'. Great video.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think you are right - probably an option for the -3 version.
@Paulrogbucksbeach
@Paulrogbucksbeach 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I have a couple of questions if you have the time. Why don't high end clamp meters have hrc fuses (including the flukes)? Also how account is the power factor and Watts function in the Testo 770-3 clamp meter ? Thanks Paul
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question;) Clamp meters do not need the fuses because the current does not go thru the meter. The current measurements are done is a much safer way, and that it’s thru the magnetic coup;ing thru the clamps:)
@Paulrogbucksbeach
@Paulrogbucksbeach 3 жыл бұрын
Accurate *
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
The dang strap should be included on the Fluke, they act like its some kind of boutique product and charge you $40 for a friggen strap-??!! Its also really unforgiveable that a Fluke at this price doesnt include the TL71 silicone leads, Ive got a couple $35 - $40 Chinese meters that actually came with silicone leads. Id rather not have it come with batteries that have been laying around for who knows how long or what quality they are. Really like that battery box on the Testo, totally protects the meters PCB from leakage damage, why arent the flukes like this-??
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all these great points - and questions! I couldn’t agree more!
@essambadreddin1799
@essambadreddin1799 3 жыл бұрын
A great review, I like your style too; natural, relaxed, enjoyable presentation :) Regarding Testo, I had the 760-3 and returned it because it doesn’t read zero current when not attached (for such a low impedance measurement ?!). Could you find-out if this is a “feature or a bug”? When I asked Testo Germany, they told me that it’s not normal and I should return the unit I bought, but when I hear you and read the reviews on Amazon , it seems to be quite an often behavior!!!! Also, I found the Meter slow in finding the measurement type in the Auto mode; sometimes it confuses capacitance with resistance too! Of course you can manually select the type; then it’s fast enough. Although the display is nice, the area is kind of “wasted” by dividing it in sectors with relatively small digits; the main sector with the measurement could have been made bigger! Any afterthoughts? Thanks
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Essam! It is slower when it has to detect what needs to be measured. When there are two possible parameters it might select the wrong one;) Ok, so is the question that if in current mode but no current flowing that the reading is not stable? I’ll have to check that.
@essambadreddin1799
@essambadreddin1799 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog yes, exactly! When nothing is connected or the leads are short circuited, in the current measurement mode, the reading is NOT ZERO, shows unstable/changing digits! Thanks
@ronaldd4012
@ronaldd4012 Жыл бұрын
The Fluke 117 has a high and low range for non contact volt
@yambo59
@yambo59 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like possibly that unused IC pad in the Testo was meant for a bluetooth chip, they put em in everything now including meters-lol
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - that sounds like a great possibility. I've noticed that many - even very low cost meters are doing this. I see some good practical applications. Fluke will charge an extra $80 for that feature, and increment the meter by one number;)
@EDDGC
@EDDGC Жыл бұрын
Hey I really liked your great presentation for these products, very well done, taking notice of any important or minor aspect of each product, very patient and thoroughly... I just bought a 760 Testo unit. Spent weeks looking for an awesome multimeter, to be honest I wanted to something strange not very common I was thinking about Gossen Metrawatt but I couldn't afford the model I really liked, but I think now Testo is by far a better deal for the money and in comparison and Made in Germany as far as I know. Anyway thank you very much for your time and your great video, very nice exposition of these two very good products.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your feedback! The Testo is a fantastic meter - and is priced reasonably. I want a Gossen for my channel but they are so proud of their meter - I just can't afford it. And I thought Fluke was overpriced... ha ha
@EDDGC
@EDDGC Жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Yes indeed Gossen Metrawatt are spectacular products but the German ones are on the expensive side but I think they are quite interesting and superb products and would like to get one someday, but being honest Testo model is just what I needed in all regards I am quite sure about that, and with a more friendly pricing, also, as for Gossen Metrawatt, only their higher end models are made in Germany. You have a great Channel thank you very much.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I feel the same - someday it would be great to have a real Gossen meter. Probably won't happen as I've found some really great meters for so much less.
@TheRadiogeek
@TheRadiogeek 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was quite the comparison! Question, why does the temp probe adaptor need a battery? I have meters that have inputs for thermocouples and don’t need extra batteries. Nice work on the video. Thanks. 👍👏🏻
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you! That is an amazingly great question;) It is funny, cause that thought crossed my mind but then I pushed it off as I tried to get this video together;) My guess is that since it is an automatic sensing meter (with manual over ride). So, the meter might need to have a voltage reading - but then it has the special manual temp setting. It probably has something to do with the way the meter works in this auto setting.
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Fluke 115 at my workplace, and one thing that annoys me a lot is that the display becomes really pale and almost unreadable when viewed from above (with the meter on its stand, looking down at it). In 2021 there are much, much better LCD displays that are visible from ANY angle, even on very cheap Chinese devices with an LCD display. I would have expected better from a $200+ (CAD) Fluke DMM.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! I agree - Fluke really needs to improve the displays in a big way!
@zumzethuhurez5331
@zumzethuhurez5331 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Liked that you used the UTG962 in your tests, got one myself after your review of it. Also impressed with the Testo, great price/performance ratio.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad it helped. I'm happy with the UTG962 so far;)
@oldricky
@oldricky Жыл бұрын
good review
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hbo7799
@hbo7799 2 жыл бұрын
which multimeter can measure duty cycle in pwm generator?
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to test, but I think many will. Have you tried yet?
@joey24698
@joey24698 Жыл бұрын
Watching your review & tear down I thought the Testo looked like a meter I wanted to add to my collection, didn't have anything like it. I originally looked at the AstroAI MUS10KRD but passed on it, looked too much like a toy to me. I was impressed with the looks, function and especially the tear down you did on the Testo. I normally get the model in the series that offers the most features, but comparing the Testo 760-2 & 760-3 the looks & feature set was the same, the only differences I found looking at the spec's on Testo's site was 760-2 Frequency: 0.001 Hz to 30 MHz, Capacitance: 0.001 nF to 30000 μF, Voltage: 0.1 mV to 600 V and the 760-3 Frequency: 0.001 Hz to 60 MHz, Capacitance: 0.001 nF to 60000 μF, Voltage: 0.1 mV to1000 V. Couldn't find the 760-3 on amazon, the supply houses online do have the 760-3 but want $100 more than amazon wants for the 760-2 . So in the end I didn't think the difference in those 3 specs was worth an extra $100. How do you feel about that, do you think those 3 specs are worth the extra $100? Thanks for you review & input.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey! That's funny - we operate very much the same;) I too wanted the 760-3, but ended up with the 760-2 because it was in stock and the price difference made sense to buy it;) It is on sale now at only $186 amzn.to/3CNEoAj BTW, it is much more meter than the others that you were looking at;)
@joey24698
@joey24698 Жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Upon checkout amazon applied a discount to the purchase, don't know why, but it brought the price down to $163.10 :)
@joey24698
@joey24698 Жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog what I find funny is the 760-2 specs beats my Fluke 87V Max :) (minus the 1000 volts)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Yes the 85V Max is still just an 87V (20 plus year old meter) with better ingress protection (so plastic upgrade;)
@joey24698
@joey24698 Жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog funny thing is a 3rd party Seller popped up on amazon that sells the 760-3 for only $45 more than I paid for the 760-2, so yep the 760-2 went back and the 760-3 is in my hands now instead :) I got lucky I was still in my return window, that usually doesn't happen.
@davereed6612
@davereed6612 2 жыл бұрын
Question for you. Do you know off hand why testos sites comparison between the 1,2 and 3 models says under “voltage range upto 1000” it had red slashed on 1 and 2 but a green check on the 3. But it says model 2 and 3 say cat III and cat IV 100 and 600 I’m a bit puzzelled by their chart.
@Handlebar-MustDash
@Handlebar-MustDash 11 ай бұрын
The Fluke 117 is not a robust meter from my experience. The top of the case is far too thin, likely to accomodate the Volt Alert functionality which is an unnecessary gimmick on a high quality meter, I already have Fluke Volt Alert sticks. Mine dropped from a worktop indoors no more than 3 feet, landed on its head and took a hairline crack to the front casing across the top in line with the Volt Alert light despite it having the yellow rubber bumper in place. This meter is designed for professional tradesmen, electricians in particular but fitted in an amateur standard case. Fluke are disinterested in their design flaw and offered no help or warranty support. My older Fluke multimeters are fine - 106, 17B+, 113, 23iii, 25, 83iii, 87v, I have more than a few Fluke meters to compare the 117 against. Functionality of the 117 is good, what a pity that the internals are not adequately protected with a good thick and robust plastic casing or a thicker rubber holster with better bump protection such as the 83iii yellow rubber holster with the internal ribbing for impact absorbtion, a design going back over 2 decades or more. I have gone back to using my old faithfull Agilent U1232A for field work, this has survived a few tumbles from greater heights with no ill effects. Fluke have had several safety recalls of test instruments in these last 5 years or so, 2x pole testers faulty en masse, socket testers with design faults, etc. Fluke are taking the same route as Boeing, both Seattle based corporations, trading build quality for greater profits. Sad times when such huge and trusted names are lowering their standards to the detriment of once loyal customers. Many meters now made in China but for 'Built in America' prices. Not tried the Testo meters yet, they seemed a bit gimmicky but also expensive for the feature set when I 1st saw the meters for sale, never enjoyed push button meters using relays preferring the traditional range selector dials. Too easy to find yourself in the wrong settings with no dial selector to refer to and you end up listening for the relay clicks to confirm selections or squinting at the screen for the very small ac/dc etc lcd indicators. Also the digits appear slightly small for my relatively old eyes even though it has a really large screen. It is a very nice meter though with very different styling, build quality appears to be good, nice backlight, good PCB layout, nice blast protection with greased 'o' ring, really good rubber button design, superior case design compared to the 117, not seeing a thin film resistor for accuracy which the Fluke has. Also would prefer larger HRC fuses. Missing the Non Contact/Volt Alert feature is not a problem for me, the pen type are better for testing for a live voltage and reach into awkward places such as DB's. Really enjoyed your examination of both meters with detailed teardowns, great and thorough presentation and I really value your opinion on all of the tech you feature. I may try this Testo now as you can never have enough meters. I currently have around 40 or so decent quality multimeters, mostly Fluke, a few Extech meters which are not so good, 3 Agilents which are very good, 4 or 5 Uni-T's which are just fine for low energy circuits, an Amazon Commercial 90DM890 50,000 counts OLED which I recently bought, rechargeable battery and am still evaluating but seems fairly good so far and really rugged, a bargain for £70, an Amazon Commercial 90DM600 costing around £20. The Amazon meters I own are very robust for the price, possibly made by CEM or Extech, don't know if you have tried any of them yet but internals look pretty good too for the low cost, plenty of input protection MOV'S and ceramic fuses, decent accuracy, robust heavy duty casings, very well built in all black case and rubber overmoulding.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! The Amazon Commercial multimeters were made by CEM but offered extra features, and were amazing deals. But the only ones still available are stock that hasn't been sold. I can't find them here in the US anymore. I think since Fluke has been bought by a big corporation that they just are not the same company that John Fluke built, but that's my opinion. There are so many other meters now that are more recent designs and offer more functionality in safe robust packages. Here's one that I just reviewed that fits that description: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6fchJmjjJihkNU
@Daveyk021
@Daveyk021 4 жыл бұрын
I would like you to review the 121GW meter. Autorange on it is like comparing a 1MHz Z80 to a 4GHz Quad core I7.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that suggestion;) I have actually thought about it before. I wanted to support my fellow KZbin creator:) I heard that they were working out some bugs, so I was waiting for that and to see if I could find a good price. They are expensive. BTW, this testo being an automatic meter and auto ranging - I was very impressed how fast it was;)
@fremountstsongsrich2453
@fremountstsongsrich2453 3 жыл бұрын
Do a campersion vid on the INGCO DM7504 to the Fluke 87 I think you will be blown away at the cost and just how good the Ingco is. for only 34.00
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I agree - I think that's what is found in other brands as the 118 multimeter. Check out this vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXakloFrqaeIjdk
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
I just decided you need to make a video about me vs fluke and which is built better with better input protection and accuracy. I'm pulling a patreon perk here Eduardo.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
LOL that would be a great episode!
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised with those relays in the Testo that after 2 hours, you didn't hold a magnetic strap to them to see if their states change. You never show if it has circuitry to detect the relays state. You never show what the impact is on the readings if the relays are in the wrong state. Are they latching? Do they have shielding? If you drop it, do they change? If I were an electrician, I would want something that is pretty much bullet proof. Is this meter? Relays are fine in many applications but do I want them in a handheld meter? After looking at the Gossen Ultra with it's latching relays, I think I have my answer. I wish you would have ran some simple experiments to show me otherwise.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you Joe;) What do you think of the other testing? I want to improve on how I compare meters. I actually have held a very strong magnet to the testo and moved it around and did not hear or see any relay action as you did on the more expensive Gossen. One thing though - how realistic is it that a strong magnetic field would be that close to the meter? Also, if someone drops a meter while connected to high voltage - holly crap! I think the relays might be the least of their concern. The probes popping loose and causing and arc flash that is actually the highest cause of accidents is the most to be concerned with. What testing would you like to see? And, what distance would a magnet and how strong would it need to be for you to feel it was a good test?
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog I think you will find many companies offer these magnetic hangers to go with their products, just like the one I demonstrated causing the problem with the Gossen. Can one of these hangers produce a field strong enough to change the state of the relays? Does the meter have a way to determine the relay's state? Does having the relay in the wrong state cause the meter to display wrong results? I would have no way of knowing what the specific circumstances are when a given meter is dropped. Rather, I just want to know if a drop can cause the relays to change states. You could use the 1 meter onto the 2" thick hardwood on concrete. Pick worst case side based on how the relays are oriented or just try all 6 sides. Maybe start by determining if the meter has the circuitry to detect the state of the relay. If they do and can correct for it there may be no problem. The Gossen had nothing like that. I'm also not sure as the relays age, would they become more sensitive to drops and magnetic fields. Maybe start with the relay manufacture. Look forward to your detailed investigation. Seems like there is a lot you could do with this meter.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Great point Joe! I could use the magnet holder from the Fluke review, maybe two stuck together. I do have a really strong small stack of magnets for tool holders which I tried but didn't see anything. I'm going to look at your video again. As far as the drop test, I looked at both the Fluke and the testo and didn't see a drop test in the spec. I was a bit surprised as they both had IP ratings (which not all flukes do). And then again, unlike you and your willingness to damage meters for the review - I hate to damage my new testo for the review;) I'll check again and maybe test testo's customer service and ask if it is drop tested. Thanks for your help and suggestions. BTW, have you every tested a testo? I can see the benefit and risk in a relay. The auto feature does seem to work fast - considering...
@joesmith-je3tq
@joesmith-je3tq 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog After seeing so much hype with so little data about various brands, I wanted to see for myself how they stack up. There's a big difference from someone saying something is robust and showing it. It certainly requires an attitude that you are there to determine how well the meters perform, not collect meters. While the low end meters I've looked at do fail and a high percentage were beyond repair, the higher class meters have proven to be far more robust and serviceable. I had seen where Testo had sent EEVBLOG a box of them to look at. He opened one up and I noticed the relays. I was hoping to see him do a follow up where he actually did something with it. I couldn't see buying one after having such poor results with the Gossen Ultra. Depending on what you find, maybe I'll have a look at one and see if we can weld those relay contacts. Hard to believe they have enough spacing internally and if you ever design anything with HV relays, you know what a pain they can be.
@jhojhoahsis7841
@jhojhoahsis7841 3 жыл бұрын
very nice review sir,i hope ican buy fluke117 or testo 76-2..and i hope someday i can have that..thanks
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you get it too;)
@randyab9go188
@randyab9go188 4 жыл бұрын
Try Amprobe. Owned by Fluke and good quality for much less. Used to be Meterman and Beckman before that.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great advice;) check this video out kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4nTgHqjid-kqtU
@joseabrahaoabrahao7937
@joseabrahaoabrahao7937 4 жыл бұрын
I like all this equipment.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Emilio! Glad to hear from you!
@arevut
@arevut 3 жыл бұрын
Is it reasonable to choose this Testo 760-2 to detect if the quarz resonator is dead or alive on the mother board?
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it should be able to read frequencies up to 30 MHz. Let us know how it works out:)
@zoom_h2625
@zoom_h2625 4 жыл бұрын
Popcorn Time again. Thanks! 😍 Time thief ( 4 cutting)😪 Is Benning available in US?
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of popcorn;) I had to go on a search. I do think I have heard of Benning, but I never see them. I did find the on ebay, but they cost more here in the states and with the shipping - wow! They look like awesome meters - but the older used ones are the only ones on ebay that are priced closer to what I can afford;)
@zoom_h2625
@zoom_h2625 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog if I will get a benning mm 7-1 I will send it to U. Could take some time... The MM 7-1 is in Germany available for 176 Euro... ok 215$...
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Wow - that would be too generous;) Thanks!
@francomarianardini681
@francomarianardini681 3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate your feedback!!
@francomarianardini681
@francomarianardini681 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog you are welcome. did you also compare Testo vs Brymen? I have a Fluke 117 and a Brymen 869s. just curious to see the other comparison. thanks
@juancarlossandoval5628
@juancarlossandoval5628 3 жыл бұрын
Hi,, new subscriner here, love the video,, please take a look at TES 2900, it has comparable features to the fluke 87v and more
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan! Great to have you here;) Wow, I never knew about TES. I'll see if I can get one and thanks for the tip!
@luisdponizio8680
@luisdponizio8680 2 ай бұрын
El Testo 760 3 es una gran maquina. Lastima Fluke se quedo en el tiempo. Bien por Testo. Saludos desde Argentina.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Ай бұрын
I agree! Thank you! Great to hear from friends in Argentina;)
@g0fvt
@g0fvt 2 жыл бұрын
I have a number of Flukes but also some cheaper multimeters, I have owned multimeters since childhood. I guess "living with" a meter for a while you learn what you like and what you don't. Some of the facilities like backlights, time out, touch hold, low frequency measurement, capacitance range, diode test, continuity beeper are good for me). TBH transistor test, temperature measurement and NCV are not on my wish list. If a facility will not work well for me I would rather they did not fit it. (I do know that temperature measurement will be accurate but I prefer to use laser pointed thing it is usually more convenient). In field use most of these multimeters spend a significant time falling out of racks or tipping off the bales a magnetic attachment might be useful. Of course each of these meters could easily carry spare fuses internally but that will not happen either....
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! There are so many good meters out there that may not be the cheap meter, but they still cost half of what a fluke does!
@g0fvt
@g0fvt 2 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog, there is a lot of inertia with purchasing of test equipment, the strange thing is that most people will cite accuracy as a major factor. Apart from weird and whacky waveforms I have never really found an inaccurate one. Fluke are definitely a premium priced product, I can live with that but it does upset me to unbox a brand new meter and immediately find it has nasty test leads. Interesting content, keep up the good work.
@decibellone696
@decibellone696 2 жыл бұрын
20 to 30 dollar diffrence in the meters. I got a 117 for free and its fine for my low voltage electrical work.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Great deal Decibell one, otherwise you overpaid;) Thanks for the reply!!
@mrpetit2
@mrpetit2 4 жыл бұрын
The fluke is showing it's age and that goes for a lot of their models. I think the 11x series came to market in 2007 (my 115 at least) and back then it stood out. But 13 years later all the competition has caught up (and surpassed). For fluke to stay ahead of the competition they either need to launch new models more often or lower prices significantly as the model gets older. I don't know if I like meters with push selectors. I certainly dont like automatic measure function because it doesn't always work. I also don't like the temperature adapter and the fact that it doesn't show on the meter how to get into temperature mode. Also not having rubber protection all around is a risc maybe. .....man this video was long....
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Great Feedback! Thank you! I agree with you on all accounts;) I held off buying this because of the push selectors, but I was intrigued because it is from a great company that I haven't every had any of their equipment, so I had to give it a try;) I really like it in this meter. It works fast in selecting which measurement and selects range fast too! Also agree on the rubber protection. I think it would have been better to have rubber on the corners;) Maybe they expect you to handle it safer, but accidents happen. It does feel solid and depending on how it fell it would probably be just fine. Funny thing, one of Flukes most durable meters that is made for explosive atmosphere does not have any rubber protection - but the case is super strong. I think a rubber boot would be a nice accessory option for them to sell - if they were that type of company;)
@akcoord9615
@akcoord9615 4 жыл бұрын
could you plz test a large capacitor like 26000 on testo with (auto) mode on i really want to buy one with auto but for large capacitors
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Great question - thanks for asking! Auto mode works great up to 600 uF then you have to switch to manual mode and that works great too;) I'm really enjoying using my testo. Let us know if you get one and what you think. Please use this link - it doesn't cost any more;) amzn.to/3p4nhAZ
@skyemac8
@skyemac8 3 жыл бұрын
The 117 is an electrician’s meter not a bench meter.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's right, and I do call it that at 3:33;) The testo has better specs and functions for an electricians meter, as well as a better IP rating, so it is meant to be out in the weather (in case you get caught in the rain). Also, the testo comes with silicone leads which the 117 comes with super stiff leads. So, IMHO, the testo is a better and lower cost option than the 117 for the electrician. The testo also makes for a great bench top meter. I did another video comparing 2 Flukes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp3RgGmLjbSYY6M
@mlw19mlw91
@mlw19mlw91 3 жыл бұрын
Does the testo start off in AC mode or DC mode? I want one that starts in DC mode!
@seangannon193
@seangannon193 2 жыл бұрын
Testo by far the better meter but i think the cat 4 tip shroud should be coloured red and black not both black
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Sean! I agree - the Testo is a far better choice. The CAT 4 tip shrouds on the 117 flip off way too easy and the leads are terrible IMHO.
@dfigueroa903
@dfigueroa903 4 жыл бұрын
You know the fluke 117 has a hi and low NCV setting right.... look on top of the range selection...
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking! :-) No, this is my first fluke with an NCV. Other meters that I have that show a low and high it means lower and higher voltage. I tried the low setting, and it does work as expected. The high setting is just unusable.
@dfigueroa903
@dfigueroa903 4 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog to me.... in opinion, I use the high to let me know “ if” there is any voltage around the area you are checking .... the low for a closer indication of voltage present... I have many meters .... fluke , fieldpiece, amprobe, Flir , testo and Bremen multimeters .... It is your preference on witch each one that you’re going to use.... since I work on residential electrical/ HVAC/ furnace and appliance repair.. I have to be ready.. myself , I like the fieldpiece sc440 ..... I can use it in all weather conditions and no problem ( knock on wood)... Your videos are very informative ( specs) gives the new tech a idea on which meter to choose for the job....... Great work.....
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's great feedback to hear from someone who actually works in the field and has access to different brands! Much appreciated!
@Tools_and_Guitars
@Tools_and_Guitars Жыл бұрын
I like many Fluke meters, but I have to agree... those TL75 leads are an abomination. Silicone, or bust. 👍
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Yes for sure! This testo is a very nice meter with a great display and easy buttons that get you to what you want quickly;)
@MrJohnd1221
@MrJohnd1221 3 жыл бұрын
Can you spend more time on voltage, resistance and current, and less time on diodes and capacitance. those measurements are almost redundant as an electrician (not into electronics)
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking John! What kind of voltage measurements would you like to see?
@MrJohnd1221
@MrJohnd1221 3 жыл бұрын
@@KissAnalog Maybe do some tests on a VSD output. Test low Z voltage. Focusing on speed and usability of higher voltage test ranges, and resistance measurements. I've got a basic clamp meter and the voltage bounces from 415v to 50v while testing a VSD Love your videos BTW
@вечная_мерзлота
@вечная_мерзлота 4 жыл бұрын
in Russia we are taught to put 2 wires to our tongue and tell how much voltage and hertz the output is. beat that Testo.
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
LOL Good one!!
@timothygrupp
@timothygrupp 4 жыл бұрын
My father learned from his father (an electrician around the turn of the last century) to test a live circuit by wetting two fingers and placing them across the neutral and the line...same hand of course with the other hand firmly in his pocket.
@вечная_мерзлота
@вечная_мерзлота 4 жыл бұрын
@@timothygrupp that method is for high voltage. for low 3-12v tongue is the good tool. 😄
@keenowl1410
@keenowl1410 Жыл бұрын
It's kinda hard for me to believe this guy, in my opinion, because I feel he is very anti fluke. I looked at some of his preferred options and they all had crap ratings and reviews. So...
@KissAnalog
@KissAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! I am against paying more or even double for something of less quality. I used to be a Fluke fan, but now I see that there is so much out there that is better IMHO at a lower cost. What you might see on other channels is someone reviewing a Fluke that was given to them - I have purchased all my Flukes. I think I show enough in the videos which are in depth and fairly long - just so the viewer can see for himself. Turn off the sound and watch - and see what you think. There are lots of Fluke fans out there - it is a brand that people side with without consideration and/or thought IMHO. So, tell me one fact that I missed or said that was not true?
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