(TF2 15.ai) The BLU team debate about Radical Politics

[@harbingerdown9877]

Heads up for anyone reading the comments, once again the 3rd and final part of the TF2 politics debate was deleted off of youtube when the uploader deleted their channel :( It is still on bitchute though for anyone searching.

[@oyubaatcantina]

Remake in the future, preferably soon

[@harbingerdown9877]

@@oyubaatcantina ma boy, you made me happy

[@vexshinji8369]

Oh 🥺

[@loneliberation3483]

Got a link? I can't find it. Bloody woke YT.

[@sambridgers9543]

​@@oyubaatcantinaRemake?

[@quotastrider801]

"Alright bitch, you've just officially joined our political debate, name your ideology right now!" This needs to be a copypasta

[@vicenzogames5535]

Alright bitch, you've just officially joined our political debate, name your ideology right now!

[@grunt9494]

Alright bitch, you've just officially joined our political debate, name your ideology right now!

[@theant2266]

I Want to use this at some bcs its so G o o d

[@oyubaatcantina]

@@grunt9494 Alright bitch, you've just officially joined our political debate, name your ideology right now!

[@RainworldFan228]

Alright bitch, you've just officially joined our political debate, name your ideology right now!

[@sannicfann3338]

this actually makes political debates entertaining and they don't interrupt each other every 5 seconds the mercs should host cable news

[@manintheline5331]

All while being absolute extremists

[@mockery_man]

Man if only more extremists can be like that lmfao

[@howardvonstauffer]

It would probably be so fucked they couldn't even walk correctly.

[@Ttegegg]

@@mockery_man there called that for a reason. Though I wonder what a religious version would be like. Considering is like a identity to people and there’s lots of them

[@orrorsaness5942]

@@manintheline5331 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/op2ZoGaohsmij8k

[@thicboibigsmoke7220]

I feel like Saxton hale will be like “what the fuck is a political ideology? Is that a new species I can punch?”

[@LightSoul-8]

Saxton Hale beats the living shit out of the mercs because "I'M GONNA KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO YOU BOYS, SAXTON HALE STYLE!" (Soldier cheers him on while being beaten up)

[@donquavioussquintillioncor2261]

I think saxton would heavily agree with blu soldier on this one

[@rejvaik00]

I get the feeling that Saxton hail and blue soldier in this video would be the best of friends 😂

[@user-uo8ny1kj4c]

@kc korea lurk moar, newbie.

[@thebat9301]

what about the announcer and miss pauling?

[@PatSmashYT]

Demo: Is islamic Also Demo: Chugs down an entire brewery everyday

[@jackakakreanxx5587]

Christians: exist Also Christians: eat pork, swear, have women do things, work on Sunday’s and get tattoos all of which the Bible forbids

[@javelin1423]

absolutely haram, lmao

[@magazinestew5197]

Lol this reminds me of m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2TZn5quhriJps0

[@landlockedcroat1554]

he's bosnian

[@patrik9328]

TF2 lore doesn't apply in this clusterfuck

[@LanderKoenig]

I love the little detail of Medic and Engineer teaming up, their beliefs and working together makes me think of how the mechanis and imperium of man work together. Definitely some good stuff

[@sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046]

I actually took iinspiration from it to create a steampunk book in which the central powers created super soldiers with a steampunk astheatic that were able to destroy the Entente (kinda like Iron Harvest but more steampunk)

[@DinoJake]

The sad thing is, this is actually more civil than most political debates in real life.

[@b3nl555]

How so

[@jasonparker3925]

@@b3nl555 I guess here everyone takes their time and no one interrupts, give the audience time to form their own opinions while observing both perspectives. It also helps that unlike modern debates it’s not hero vs villain, but ideology vs ideology

[@RhineStone46]

And those people aren’t usually extremist either. Just a bunch of retards 😂

[@JoseMat2953]

Truuuuue

[@grimgrahamch.4157]

@@b3nl555 I mean they actually take time to listen to each other and even agree with one another on specific points. That's how a political discussion should be.

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

I do love how you manage to make the BLU Team's personalities completely different from the REDs in the last vid. Also Pyro with the uniform caught me off guard. Very intimidating.

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

O.o

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

Tbh Pyro is just being some SS general or something

[@alface935]

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 Very Cool Uniform Sad That It Was Used By Monsters

[@DogeickBateman]

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 FURTHER Pyro is literally a Burgundian System follower.

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@DogeickBateman that's also SS buddy, remember Burgundian is the only SS can get that, and since Pyro is an SS so he being Burgundian System.

[@thomasfoster4370]

the team colour is so ironic in both these skits: blus are a stereotypical twitter thread reds are an average day in r/politics

[@thomasfoster4370]

@kc korea from that I can gather that there are three different kinds of r/politics mod: the extremists the moderate mediators and the popcorn people

[@Long_Live_Metal]

I don't get it because I only use Reddit. Explain please.

[@thomasfoster4370]

@@Long_Live_Metal i would, but i'd like to keep your faith in humanity intact.

[@Long_Live_Metal]

@@thomasfoster4370 Toxicity on both sides, I take it.

[@Scaramouche122]

/pol/

[@timmyjimmy7413]

18:38 "Okay, give me one reason why I should give a shit about the government." He just asserted Dominance right there.

[@kellypegg6425]

It’s funny how spy praise Napoleon for being French, but he was born and raised in Corsica.

[@elbucho8867]

In his youth he was also a Corsican nationalist

[@patrik9328]

Corsica was part of France and its still is...

[@kellypegg6425]

@@patrik9328 yes I’m well aware of that. In fact, Corsica was bought by the French right before napoleon was born. At that time and still somewhat today, Corsica was a lot more culturally Italian. That’s why napoleon speak French in a Italian accent.

[@patrik9328]

​@@kellypegg6425he was bullied in school because of his accident

[@RandomGuy-xr6ll]

This discussion is making me lose brain-cells, JUST LIKE REAL POLITICS GREAT JOB MAN

[@rejvaik00]

I agree, you gotta be extremely careful with having this topic in conversation

[@griffinhunter3206]

@@rejvaik00 EXTREME? sounds like something an EXTREMEIST would say

[@shapshapshapshap2829]

@@griffinhunter3206 3 out of the seven words you said started with an S, you god damn socialist

[@singulargeneral2003]

@@griffinhunter3206 GRIFFIN HUNTER? GRIFFINS AREN'T REAL, SHEEP! BAAAAH! YOU GO BAAAAH! /s

[@You-ye4xb]

Oh god

[@yazidefirenze]

"Also your economy is hardly worth a f-cking Robux, Heavy." - Scout

[@seashellguy9416]

oh boy time to buy an gun from russia using robux and then kill them

[@ChaosAbandon]

Oof

[@nikfighter262]

The same can be applied to mine and I am no russian.

[@seashellguy9416]

@Bl3zijacken10 bruh roblox's currency is robux and it really is better than the russian ruble,not an reference but an roast'n'toast fact

[@donquavioussquintillioncor2261]

Brazilian real is more worth than ruble, im moving to Russia lads!

[@ajstephens1807]

Scout: paleoconservative Sniper: syndicalist Spy: caste system Demo: black supremesist Heavy: communist Engine: robo religion Solder: darwinist Pyro: nazism Medic: monarchist

[@darkdragon5520]

Heavy is more of a tankie than just a communist.

[@totaltakeovergames7275]

Pyro is Burgsys, but since it’s a reference a lot of people wouldn’t get you could just call it Nazism Squared

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@totaltakeovergames7275 more like Esoteric Naz**m

[@totaltakeovergames7275]

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 I mean, I’d argue BurgSys is a step above esoteric nazism but yeah that works too

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@totaltakeovergames7275 More worse again Imperial Cult on HRE that made traumatized when your state went become Radio Silence

[@Mahdi12]

Rip Uncle Ted.

[@oyubaatcantina]

F in the chat for our anarchist primate.

[@Guythethird1]

F

[@BlackManLover]

F

[@patrik9328]

Who?

[@ryanhernandez8324]

​​@@patrik9328that guy that almost got sexual reassignment surgery one time

[@Synthiewavu]

Let’s be real. 99% of all political debates and arguments aren’t like this, they mostly just interrupt and insult each other. Ngl all classes have good points on when they contradict themselves. Whoever wrote this did a great job it’s entertaining and understandable. Also soldier being an anarchist sent me LOL

[@Lazare7782]

A proper use for LOL, first time I have seen that

[@isg4]

​​@@Lazare7782 tbh, LOL is being used either to show you're not taking something seriously or to pretend you find something funny even tho you didn't even exhale from your nose It's never used properly in a sentence

[@patrik9328]

Soldier is not anarchist. He just wants to live in a peace in a forest and he hates goverment. Thats pretty normal

[@alfonzogutierrez2546]

​@@patrik9328 Well, yes, but the "just" part minimizes the fact that his ideology includes eating corpses and living like an animal.

[@patrik9328]

@@alfonzogutierrez2546 he's an cannibal?

[@lyozepudge3335]

The fact that I watched the whole thing when I fucking despise politics goes to show how brilliant your work is.

[@FredbrStudios]

same

[@emtee7138]

Same, and I rewatch this all the time

[@purpleflaminggoatsnakes9864]

Same!

[@johnoconnell5004]

Same.

[@GaryCandyPrince]

same, and agreed

[@handletemplate]

as a wise man once said, "I change my ideology based on who I am trolling"

[@MostlyJustWhipGaming]

Did I see somebody use **BASED**

[@Vandarte_translator]

@@MostlyJustWhipGaming A red spy is in the based

[@naenae2350]

Based

[@bush2239]

I'm having a hard time remembering who said that. DJ Peach Cobbler? That Joker guy on Omegle? I forgot.

[@itzbeendakavgaming5632]

Same, but replace ideology with sexual orientation

[@LTSneed]

The moment Pyro appeared I instantly knew what his ideology was going to be

[@pocarski]

"you can't describe someone's political ideology with a low pitched hum" BurgSys:

[@bradyblue5269]

Spy: what else can get worse than this Pyro: hmmm hm hmmm hmm hmmmm

[@DogeickBateman]

UNS FUHRT DER FLORIAN GEYER AN-

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

As soon as i heard the music I knew what we were in for.

[@thebowler5506]

The Gamer Ideology

[@twistedaddiction]

I swear to god Ive heard a conversation exactly like this by my actual family members. Thanks for putting this chaos into animation

[@jblazerndrowzy]

I’m shocked that you even know what politics are, Caboose.

[@ConfusedLemons]

I relate to this. Watching political arguments are absolutely batshit. It gets scary in person, but in animation you can pause and laugh safely.

[@gokuuzumaki70]

That's concerning considering 4 out of 9 of them were race supremacists.

[@seenworlds3973]

at 24:36 you can see the red sniper spying on the blu team with his binoculars

[@jacklayne8137]

He recording them for sure.

[@jimbocraggins]

hes gonna put them on his cringe comp so the red team has something to watch during movie night

[@bankruptedwizard1413]

I love how the Blu team is either the complete opposite or the extreme of their Red counterparts with their ideologies.

[@Hyde-dg7ef]

How would blu spy get along with red spy? Blu spy advocates a caste system but Red spy is a corporatist who mainly likes business. I dont rly see how these two can clash or go hand to hand except maybe they could get along with the slavery part

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

Most of too dangerous is Pyro because since he become Burgundian System while Red is Anarcho Radical both can burn everything.

[@accent1666]

@@Hyde-dg7ef Re spy is a corporate kleptocrat

[@Hyde-dg7ef]

@@accent1666 fixed. But yeah, how would red and blue spy get along? To me their ideologies are too different for comparison

[@accent1666]

@@Hyde-dg7ef indeed they are, we intentionally did this to make it almost impossible to compromise or reconcile and let alone that they are very ignorant the only way they could get along is IF they accept their differences and stop trying to force each other to change their minds

[@MickyVideo]

Analysis of every class in this video because I wanted to refine my writing: *Scout* may have the head in the right place sometimes, but his provocative attitude, stubbornness, and unwillingness to listen or care about other people's facts, opinions and struggles different than his own land him right as the typical, American right-winger stereotype. _(e.g. Soldier's ideology and lifestyle would never impact Scout. Yet, Scout constantly goes out of his way to remind Soldier he's a social outcast, almost slurring at him, even if the conversation doesn't really benefit from it)_ *Sniper* may be the most rational of the group. He brings up great points and seems to look at the whole picture, often unbiased, using other people's ideologies as actual arguments only when it matters. Despite this, he's unable to see the weakness of the syndicalism he's devoted to. _(Frankly, I'm not politically inclined enough to explain his belief properly, but it may have something to do with it being overshadowed by communism under most aspects)_ *Spy* kept bottled in his French supremacy. He's very knowledgeable of France's history and culture, constantly bringing up times where the country was successful, which is fairly commendable. However, as a result, he desires the entirety of Earth to be French, yet fails to notice the flaws in the French government and that stripping every other country of their original nationality is not something to be agreed on. *Demoman* is a black supremacist. Not often seen, yet ridiculed on all sides, racists or not, because he himself is clearly one-sided. In fact, and unfortunately, his extremist, outright racist attitude undermines the very real issue of discrimination that every african-american has to face, with perfectly valid examples even brought up by him. *Soldier* is an anarchist. He fails to see the value of any government, even if it benefits him, and would rather live in the wilderness, much like humanity has done in the past, and he himself has gotten accustomed to. Despite this being a neutral stance _(indifferent within limits of everyone's opinions, nationality, religion...)_ , to everyone else he's an outlier. Compared to a civilization, his means to gather nutrients are immensely cruel, and his willingness to eat raw "spoils" put to question his morality _(Fun fact: your brain is hardwired to not eat human flesh. Doing so knowingly WILL cause immense trauma)_ . *Heavy* is a very pure communist, indeed. He wishes people to share and stay strong, together, yet his means to achieve this view of the perfect world are highly immoral and possibly brutal. He also makes compelling arguments, namely pointing out the capitalism corruption is the main reason for its failure, yet fails to realise that a few countries today may still only be "communist" by name, as well. *Engineer* 's stance isn't much political at all. He really does believe that machines can greatly benefit humanity as a whole, and that petty arguments are the past. He doesn't want anyone to be hurt anymore, and everyone should be free and equal to him. However, his almost cultish obsession and utter dismissal of incidents caused by technology "put a wrench" on his ideology and should make one question the true morality of the actions he reveres for the "benefit" of humanity. *Pyro* is a nazi under a veil. He suffers from the highest superiority complex of the group, believing the descriptor doesn't even apply to him anymore. As part of the Burgundian System, he is far better, and so would be his citizens, completely stripped of individuality to be just like him. *Medic* is an avid supporter of the German empire, as it once was. Despite his morals being in the right place, his devoted knowledge to the Kaiser blinds him from the fact that empires have never historically succeeded for long, for quite a multitude of reasons. He fails to understand why common folk committed atrocities against the German royalty as they did. There really is no saving grace for most of them.

[@sambridgers9543]

I don't think that fighting for the restoration of the Kaiser makes Medic a Nazi.

[@MickyVideo]

@@sambridgers9543 Good point. Very good point. Edited.

[@sambridgers9543]

@@MickyVideo Good analysis.

[@calsalitra4689]

I would argue against Soldier's methods being particularly cruel. His methods only seem cruel because he himself is putting in the work to kill resisting prey. I might live in a civilization and I may not kill my meat myself, but every bit of meat on store shelves came from an animal that was still killed. "Humanely" or not, it still died. Soldier's ideal world is, in a way, less cruel than that of civilization, since where Soldier's kills are more brutal, before it died it was allowed to roam it's natural habitat as freely as it wished, while civilization's livestock are more often than not caged and abused, never seeing the light of day or even the brush of wind.

[@oyubaatcantina]

It's analysis like this that makes me love reading comments.

[@SwoleSorcerer]

Internet political slapfights are the best argument for state mandated gfs

[@accent1666]

Hey the fallout legend is here! Good to see that you enjoyed this video You're also a very creative 15.ai content creator just like Cantina

[@oyubaatcantina]

@ToTheMax It's because of you that I'm into Fallout now. Lol.

[@brunaotube]

becaause of you im playing fallout

[@sambridgers9543]

I could certainly use one.

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

Oh no, another political ideology…

[@ahumanoidtroodon1074]

Everyone else: some actual ideology that you can actually sort of see how it makes a bit of sense Engineer: *Since the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me*

[@KincaidCalder-vn6bo]

Idk, French Supremacy is an… interesting take

[@patrik9328]

@@KincaidCalder-vn6bo its cringe

[@emilturangi7145]

Engi: -"Are you seriously want to go back to monkey?!" Soldier: -"Yes!"

[@smproductions7141]

This is honestly a work of art. Nine borderline extremists picking at each others arguments and ideologies while being too stubborn to acknowledge the flaws in their own.

[@saucevc8353]

Sniper is the only borderline extremist. Everyone else is a very literal actual extremist.

[@bionic-tale4313]

@@saucevc8353 Yeah, Sniper seems to be the only sane one in this group.

[@joshnoritake3167]

BORDERLINE?

[@Ttegegg]

@@joshnoritake3167 weird how heavy is a communist. You know gulag and counter revolutionary family

[@lennyface5314]

@@Ttegegg well, that was the RED heavy, I guess. BLU heavy is full comrade. good profile pic btw

[@skyreelz]

I like how it seems most of them just recently adopted there political ideologies.

[@chairio6212]

They’re all fifteen and discovered ideology

[@creepersammyb2926]

oh yeah they definitely just adopted them that day

[@schnek8927]

They’re no different from you, and most people here, in that sense.

[@pikachuandsonic]

You should make part 3! I would love to see both RED and BLU teams argue!

[@virtualtools_3021]

and then part 4 where the argument from part 3 was so damn loud it got the attention of the entire continent they live on

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

Or feature new teams like GRN or YLW discuss their ideologues.

[@RedBadGaming]

@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 nah I think virtualtools is better I like to see red and blue argue with each other more then other teams

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

@@RedBadGaming fair enough. I do wanna see BLU engie piss off RED engie

[@stardragon5849]

@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 No wait! RED Engineer (Confederate) and BLU Demoman (Black Nationalist) fighting against each other. Or better yet, RED Soldier vs BLU Heavy in Patriotic Ubercharged fight.

[@theailingsword4674]

The real wonder is how one man, the creator of this video, can have so many in-depth opinions on so many different political standpoints.

[@oyubaatcantina]

It is this video's 1 year Birthday! (two days earlier, had I been paying attention)

[@Erik_Ochoa013]

🎂

[@blackisbackblack9105]

I watched that yesterday on its 1 year birthday

[@Pickiest]

This was better than the red team video imo

[@rightpowered]

Why is there no mention about USA keeping USSR alive instead of not doing it during all times of low food supplies in that fascist state?

[@elythas128]

So many offshoots of this are being made, but honestly? Only good one here. This is less politically biased and offensive than a parody of this about crappy youtubers.

[@wojtaczognia3250]

I wonder what would happen if both teams argued about politics

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

More chaotic awful events will be happening too soon

[@DeuxExNoir]

TF2

[@Dryfloorsign]

@@DeuxExNoir true.

[@TimothyMark7]

your average 2fort match

[@nonameuntilifindanewone.6053]

Oh boy,I wonder how long would that discussion last...

[@liveira5400]

Its funny how after spy said "what could be worse than this?" after one second saying in my mind "an nazi" just to see pyro using that unirform with the silence

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

Oh, dude, he's very further from Naz*, he is Waffen SS extreme with his idea Burgundian System. You won't know what's that but that thing is going too further for his race and anybody.

[@theholypeanut8193]

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 Burgundian System is like nazism cracked to 2 billion.

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@theholypeanut8193 Nah is literally Ultra Naz*sm with Spartanist or Rome characteristic.

[@nu9054]

this is so well thought out, i can really tell you put a lot of time and effort into this. this is honestly dope as fuck and hilarious. from an old friend, nice job 👍

[@oyubaatcantina]

Glad you liked it man, speak to you soon

[@Cruzgarcia607]

@@oyubaatcantina can you make a part 3 were the red and blu team argue about politics

[@dj-knight7739]

@@Cruzgarcia607 now that is something i can't wait to see in the future.

[@starbuckoof5219]

@@Cruzgarcia607 yeah make it better can’t wait see red soldier and blu heavy fight

[@daimonbro5015]

@@Cruzgarcia607 oh god pls let it happen that would amazing

[@tobiasboston7795]

Sniper:Syndicalism isn't communism! Heavy:Syndicalism isn't communism! Sniper:How tf is it not? Lmao

[@Auditormadness9]

Apparently not just the voices were AI generated, but the disagreements as well lol

[@sealbeegle9785]

​@@Auditormadness9No, just an oversight in the script.

[@Auditormadness9]

@@sealbeegle9785 wooosh

[@thelemonwiththumbs4560]

I like to think that you just hid in a bush and recorded a nearby political conversation and then made thier voices sound like the TF2 cast.

[@jimbocraggins]

incorrect. this is obviously staged because the mercs aren't interrupting each other every 3 seconds

[@demoscottgaminglounge6315]

The argument between scout and sniper is the exact reasons why I’ll never talk politics cause I’ll loose my shit

[@patrik9328]

RED vs BLU team political debate would be hilarious and chaotic asf

[@Kali_Krause]

Ultimate Soviet Rage Heavy vs Ultimate American Rage Solider 🤣👍🏻

[@patrik9328]

@@Kali_Krause and Ultimate German rage vs Ultimate Texan Fury!

[@talbertobarbossa75]

Red engie and blu pyro make a based god team

[@patrik9328]

@@talbertobarbossa75 Confederate Racist and Cringy Nazi?

[@cool-guye]

@@talbertobarbossa75 are you fucking kidding me

[@BlasterB05]

Now I want to know what the Administrators, Miss Paulings, Gray Mann’s, and Saxton Hales radical ideologies are.

[@whiteeye3453]

Saxon same as blue soldier with difference that saxon don't kill animals with nukes but his fist

[@megalodongaming7635]

Miss Pauling is a feminist sjw

[@kama2719]

Marasmus is muslim

[@daimarstein]

Saxton Hale would probably be the turbo gigachad to end all discussions with "don't care, I just wanna grill"

[@Ttegegg]

@@daimarstein I mean his desk is just a giant grill

[@goldbane]

“i hate nazis, they’re inferior to french people everywhere” made me laugh so hard i thought i was going to blink out of existence

[@--__--__--__O__--__--__--]

27:14 "My disappointment is emmesurable and my day is ruined." Nice reference man!

[@terrellturner247]

This is just keeps getting better and better. First, the Red Soldier's Ultimate Rage now Blu Heavy's Ultimate Soviet Rage because Blu Scout remind him that he wear Blu Uniforms and then Blu Medic came in to scream "Shut the F Up" just like Red Spy from the other video. This video is almost similar to the video to the red team argue about politics. But both the Ultimate American Rage and Ultimate Soviet Rage is funny.

[@farenhaid13421]

I think that WAS the point right? make it so in a way the blue team also has the same issues, although I do believe the blue ones here are more fucked up considering you have racists, nazis, actual comunists, and an angie that clearly has been playing too much of WH40K adeptus mecanicus!

[@abulletant1147]

The diffrence for the ending is that they argue until they teamkill

[@manperson5315]

This is just keeps getting better and better. First, the Red Soldier's Ultimate Rage now Blu Heavy's Ultimate Soviet Rage because Blu Scout remind him that he wear Blu Uniforms and then Blu Medic came in to scream "Shut the F Up" just like Red Spy from the other video. This video is almost similar to the video to the red team argue about politics. But both the Ultimate American Rage and Ultimate Soviet Rage is funny.

[@en5420]

This is just keeps getting better and better. First, the Red Soldier's Ultimate Rage now Blu Heavy's Ultimate Soviet Rage because Blu Scout remind him that he wear Blu Uniforms and then Blu Medic came in to scream "Shut the F Up" just like Red Spy from the other video. This video is almost similar to the video to the red team argue about politics. But both the Ultimate American Rage and Ultimate Soviet Rage is funny.

[@PlahaKumar]

OMG imagine both the red Soldier and Blu Heavy screaming at each other.

[@WhaleAndWasped]

You know, this makes me wonder: Were people always this political and I’m just noticing as an adult? Or did something happen for people to get so divided all of a sudden? If it’s the second question, then I wish I could find the pinpoint to the current issue

[@oyubaatcantina]

I believe ever since the internet kicked off around the early 2000s, we sort of degraded and degraded as time went by. Which is why some people act like the classes portrayed in the video

[@DudeWithPineapple]

Somthing somthing secluded into echo chambers, somthing somting leaking only convenient half-truths, something something Colonel JD AI Codec Conversation.

[@USDebtCrisis]

It was the iPhone that gave everyone access to the internet and social media that oversocialized people. The internet made everyone stupid.

[@-t-boxmasterofthewardrobeo4397]

People were always political, in the beginning they just learned to keep at a minimum or keep their political ideas to themselves. So now I think around 2016 people wouldn't shut up about politics to the point it has or kinda has infected every entertainment avenue

[@pocarski]

The state of the entire modern world can be traced back to Tumblr banning porn. Tumblr is a place appealing to artists, many of whom are pretty strongly left-wing because of how modern education is structured. Tumblr became an echo chamber that attracted more and more radical leftists, until eventually becoming the hellscape we remember it for. After they decided to ban porn, a lot of artists couldn't post their shit anymore and left, dragging their entire following with them. This caused an exodus of extremely politicized millenials to flood more mainstream sites like Twitter and Reddit. Because of how belligerent they were everywhere they went, communities sprung up making fun of them, which in turn became echo chambers themselves, this time collecting radical right-wingers. This all came to a head in 2016, when the controversial figure of Donald Trump combined with Russian troll farms finally struck at the cracks in the system, creating a massive rift in the Internet landscape and beginning the culture wars. Ever since then, every single Internet user is required to pick a side, or be alienated by everyone. As the early users grow older and mature enough to leave the petty infighting behind, the younger generations, that they themselves brought up in their image, take their place. Meanwhile the single digit number of people owning the entire Internet are happy to keep them angry, because if we're too busy screaming at each other, we will be blind to the real problems. TL;DR Tumblr is the cause of all of today's problems, and I failed to create a copypasta

[@mikehawk4204]

I love how when you agree with one thing they say The next line they speak just throws everything through the window.

[@holstonmatt]

the only one i really agree with is sniper altho i am more of a anarcho communist then a syndicalist

[@erei5659]

@@holstonmatt i also agreed with the sniper though only like 70%.

[@ulqinaku8471]

@@holstonmatt commie 🤮🤢

[@holstonmatt]

@@ulqinaku8471 at least i not a anarcho capitalist that want companys to take over peoples lives like a state

[@ulqinaku8471]

@@holstonmatt yeah but commie kill everyone who disagree with them

[@AlbinoAxolotl1993]

15:21 Love that Heavy's saying of "Ideals" has that infliction to it.

[@sgtpixel]

25:03 Pyro mains when you tell them that M1 plus the *W* key does in fact, not take skill:

[@DogeickBateman]

You madlad you've done it, a sequel to Average Discord Political Chant. Edit: Burgsys Pyro was darkly hilarious.

[@heartpaid6767]

This should be a fkin series Basically all of the characters here are halfway right, but after they go crazy wrong By the way, massive respect for mentioning Armenians and Azeris brother

[@Quibblet]

A more uncivilized version of Meet The Press

[@MasterIsabelle]

I’d try to continue the series if I knew anything about politics, the tf2 politic argument series is the only time I didn’t avoid politics and I have no idea what is going on but I love it

[@rejvaik00]

@@MasterIsabelle I'm with you a lot of these different ideologies I have literally never heard of prior to this video so I'm at a loss of what to discuss and what to not I know some of the things but a lot of what the characters are talking about are over generalizations so it's hard to get a good understanding

[@Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper]

11:28 heavy is actually canonically anti communist, he rebelled against the Soviet Rule and his entire family got sent to the Gulag and they escaped and the rest of his family is in hiding

[@gabrielc7861]

That's red heavy, not blue heavy

[@oyubaatcantina]

And the lore doesn't apply here.

[@Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper]

@@oyubaatcantina I know, it's just a fun fact

[@Ttegegg]

@@Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper pretty sure heavy was a child or something?

[@naenae2350]

its the red heavy

[@sluggknight7130]

I like how when they kill each other the subtitles say " agressive negotiations"

[@taboerius]

I love how Pyro's personality is based very well on TNO Burgundy. Neither of them are the centre of international discourse, as Pyro doesn't speak much in the video, and Burgundy is isolated from the rest of the world. One thing that caught my attention is Pyro (probably) being a tzarist sympathiser (28:44) which is also a TNO reference. (Burgundy supports the monarchist warlord state of Vyatka in their goal to reunify Russia, although for a different reason). 25:00 is a more obvious reference to TNO, and his line at 24:16 perfectly describes Ordensstaat Burgund's role as an ominous observer of the world stage.

[@bluelightstudios6191]

In the end, the only fools are those who fail to acknowledge that we should all care about each other... You can blame and point fingers all you want, but you have the power to do incredible things just by deciding to be on the side of common good, because good has no politics, good has love and life. I'm not a hippy for saying this, I'm literally a person who wants there to be good in this world and for us to have a great time in this one life with each other before we pass on and leave our world for the next generations to share.

[@learningagain4094]

Yeah but every side believes they're good 😂

[@bluelightstudios6191]

@@learningagain4094 the problem isn't that they all think *Their* the good ones, the problem is that they think everyone else are the bad guys... which causes distrust then tensions then aggression then war and then finally death.

[@ironnoah9461]

@@bluelightstudios6191 Not to mention how they think they got a one size fits all solution

[@dalfokane]

Pyro is objectively bad though

[@patrik9328]

Well said

[@lifevest1]

I wanna get Ben Shapiro, Laura Ingraham, Bill Maher, Don Lemon, just a whole cluster F of politically divided talking heads in a room and watch them react to this video.

[@RhineStone46]

Add the BLM and Antifa Leaders and it’s perfect

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

Dude, take a range of political figures, normal and extreme, lock them in a room, and watch what happens and see how they interact. Might be fun to watch.

[@thomasfoster4370]

@@MikeHunt-zy3cn fun or depressing, 50/50 split

[@ML_Tachanka]

Maybe also Hakim, Yugopnik or Second Thought I’d like to see real communists argue about politics instead of Heavy’s cringey arguments.

[@scader_shot]

⁠@@MikeHunt-zy3cnthat would just be apes screaming at each other

[@coletrain41]

Finally, someone with the right opinion. Reject the weakness of flesh and embrace the Omnissiah. PRAISE THE MACHINE SPIRIT AND THE TOASTER!

[@phobia_master-lord_of_early]

PRAISE THE OMNISAIAH FOR ALL HIS MECHANICAL GLORY MAY HIS KNOWLEDGE BE BESTOWED UPOON AL OF US

[@jxe.7553]

Praise the Omnissiah

[@vroomkaboom108]

PRAISE THE AIR FRYER

[@coletrain41]

@@vroomkaboom108 yes we - wait.... You dare invoke the name of that accursed contraption!? The deep fryer is clearly the superior machine! It achieves flavour and quality, your petty pussy machine can only dream of producing!

[@CrabulousYT]

2:45 I know exactly where you got that line from, if you got it where I think you did I respect you instantly

[@CrabulousYT]

"aint i right" you did, absolute gigachad.

[@BaronB.BlazikenBaronOfBarons]

I love the idea that the BLU team had been working together for possible years, and it was only NOW that they found out about the radical ideas they believed in. Especially Engineer.

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

The sequel we didn't ask for but definitely needed.

[@luisrobles2103]

I never knew I needed a sequel to something already good until now. Here's to part 3, keep up with the good work.

[@asmagamer728]

Robots now discuss politics

[@manintheline5331]

There never is a part 3... Oh wait theres Alyx so yeah we should have it

[@starfruitified3456]

Something about your videos feel like the dialogue flows smoothly; like the mercs are actually talking, unlike most other videos where the generated speech sound like it was being read from a script. Nice work!

[@remuslebeau6570]

The moral of the story is, everyone should just meet halfway instead of attacking others because of their differences, by putting together what works and throwing out what doesn't.

[@MrSnort]

Red team is tame compared to these mofos. Lol, that shows how chaotic politics are. And people say videogames make people violent...

[@myleswelnetz6700]

They’re not wrong.

[@patrik9328]

RED team is just as bad as BLU Isnt that obvious?

[@myleswelnetz6700]

They have similar ideologies to the RED Team, but the mercenary classes that each ideology is associated with have been shuffled.

[@MrSnort]

​@@patrik9328 I meant in terms of the discussion. BLU broke out in a full-on firefight, while RED just had Pyro burn everyone. But yeah they're all dumb.

[@TTancevat]

The green team civilly converses about reasonable political beliefs

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

The yellow team agrees with each other, AGGRESSIVELY!

[@jmurray1110]

Green team needs both a Green Party advocate and a corporatist cryptominer

[@ZephyrStellar]

Purple team in the background all follow the same political idealogy: toaster oven

[@Reyes-dt6nq]

We need videos where the GRN and YLW teams argue about politics.

[@Safetyswitch]

meanwhile the mercenary: "what the fuck is politics?"

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

23:52 When Burgundy lullaby started playing and Pyro turned out to be a Nazi that's when I lost it.

[@durema9720]

I was like... "Oh shit he is gonna nuke us"

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

@@durema9720 Pyro got that *STRENG GEHEIM!*

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

*F O R T H E P U R I T Y A R Y A N R A C E* - Hans Pyro Probably -

[@pyoxydoge2566]

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[@AManWithNoName]

@@3.2187_Kilometres He's got that *TURKISH STATE OF GOD AND ABRAHAM* goin on him

[@oyubaatcantina]

*ULTIMATE SOVIET RAGE*

[@re4796]

Glory to azerbaijan 💪💪

[@oyubaatcantina]

@@re4796 lol, welcome President Aliyev to my channel, thanks for watching

[@ironnoah9461]

I love how Soldier's stance is literally "Go back I want to be MONKE!"

[@myleswelnetz6700]

And, “I am Painis Cupcake. I will eat you.”

[@patrik9328]

He wants to live in a forest and he hates taxes and goverment. Pretty normal human

[@sarsath7481]

15:15 Thanks for bringing the Artsakh conflict up.

[@nicoderek7806]

Why literally nobody cares about that conflict

[@Gigabyte019]

They went to war again :( sad day for Armenians

[@Zoram200]

​@@nicoderek7806 Because they aren't white

[@s1-luka149]

​@@nicoderek7806because many countries prefer the Azeri oil than the Armenian Freedom

[@gimzod76]

​ They bribe the BBC and EU to keep quite that's why

[@hectorplay8199]

If both teams started an argument, the Pyros could probably team up

[@1L0V3GUNSNGMOD]

hehe this is gonna be chaotic lol.

[@starbuckoof5219]

@@1L0V3GUNSNGMOD yeah

[@EvilSantaTheTrue]

Ye

[@Sleepy_Cabbage]

"So long as there's two people left on the planet. Someone is gonna want someone dead"

[@taureon_]

one pyro is an anarchist and the other one is a totalitarianist i think they would burn each other

[@sannicfann3338]

What the Nazi's heard during the Battle of Berlin: 26:27

[@vovcik0606]

I love this already and the premiere hasn't even started yet

[@Tf2enjoyer-ip9xl]

The Thanksgiving dinner when somebody brings up politics:

[@Bros191]

Big respect to you for actually pointing out about the innocent Armenians being murdered by barbaric Azeris.

[@pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195]

Red Pyro: I'm an Anarchist! I believe the people must govern themselves! Blu Pyro: I believe we must weed out the weak for the strong to thrive

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

I think Blue Pyro is very dangerous sir because he literally when I see the phrase or he said. . . He definitely Burgundian System.

[@theneweralastwarofeldea]

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 Himmler go based

[@DogeickBateman]

Oh boy Have you even seen it?

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

@@DogeickBateman on his Clothes and also personal I can see he is the ultra naz*sm or I called that "Esoteric Naz*sm".

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Who’s worse?

[@swordguy60]

I know it’s the most predictable joke but you could’ve had pyro say “You’re no match for my flammenwerfer.” Enjoyable video regardless I like how utterly over the top they all were.

[@redjavelin4536]

This is truly entertaining. You are the only person that can make me sit down and watch 32 minutes of TF2 characters having a discord about politics. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@breadedbread9284]

As a pyro main I love how the pyro is the only actually manually animated one on the team. Well, aside from Heavy doing that taunt, but I mean like animated for this video.

[@jacksonduong997]

25:53 [ULTIMATE SOVIET RAGE] clip

[@bitnn4703]

Everyone else excluding soldier: Virgins arguing other politics Soldier: Chad hunter killing animals and not giving a damn about the government

[@andrewmercerandrew3716]

And eating humans

[@thomasfoster4370]

must be hunting-buddies with someone

[@anomaly22]

I can't believe i Just Saw a political debate with facts and no ones interrupting each other and as progress you don't even know who is right anymore, this is trully a incredible debate man

[@alexandergodfreykleinhans8059]

Holy shit! Engineer is becoming a Skitaari!🤣 Also, agressive negotiations at the end? Anakin would be so proud.

[@animemilkmann5041]

Praise the omnissiah!

[@DJl3iohazord]

Praise the omnissiah

[@en5420]

Praise the omnissiah !

[@gasmaskman1354]

Praise the omnissiah

[@Popo-tf2hj]

Praise the omnissiah

[@hit1754]

24:41 "Oh my God! The Pyro is a Nazi!" Heavy immediately knew what was going on😂 25:13

[@hunterkinsella5303]

Everyone gets hate, but everyone gets a say. Why can't we have coding irl that forces us to speak one at a time lmao

[@weeeeeed420]

24:29 if you look closely you can see the red sniper outside the window

[@vwin9112]

Imagine this blu team and the red team meeting for a "final" battle...pretty sure now there's only the Gray Mann robots soon.

[@SuperChavon]

i gotta say, sniper was perhaps the calmest one with the opinions i most agreed with

[@eemstar5364]

mfw lib

[@punishedwhispers1218]

Scout and Sniper came out on top as the most reasonable, with Heavy being a runner up

[@chocolatesquirrel2002]

Lib and gay

[@settingsun5582]

@@eemstar5364 mfw con

[@Quibblet]

@@punishedwhispers1218 I actually liked how Sniper was portrayed in this 😊

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Heavy: (walks in the room, screaming at the top of his lungs). Also Heavy: “Why are you comrades screaming?!”

[@assaltshaker6746]

"Now Heavy deserves explication":

[@andresbravo2003]

26:49 Medic really screamed at the mercs that caused my ears hurt.

[@SwaggyG_2102]

If there were to be an official TF2 show, I'm sure there would be filler episodes like these where you would have the mercs argue with each other.

[@elitely6748]

I really love this series, the amount of time and effort put into this really shows and shines like a pearl or diamond. Best wishes to ya man!

[@ZeroScotland]

10:39 thanks for deleting my ears *(i was litteraly wearing headphones on 100% volume cuz it was low then the audio fixed right at that timestamp)*

[@polskabalaclava]

When I heard the Burgundian Lullaby in the part where Pyro appears I was like: “Yup, Pyro is a Gamer”

[@Nurikanski]

Yeah , there was a tno music

[@polskabalaclava]

@@Nurikanski I know

[@Nurikanski]

@@polskabalaclava ok , bro,i just wanted to say that ( yeah sorry for bad english , if it's bad)

[@polskabalaclava]

@@Nurikanski it’s ok your English is good

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Pyro Gaming!

[@charliehass8285]

I looked at this and thought “what the hell?” But I’m glad I watched this. This was really well done. Serious, yet comedic. Simply made, yet really engaging. Good job! I’d love to see the sequel

[@feeble_goblin3764]

Choosing country music in the beginning is quite based indeed Also you did a great job of the counter opinions they all make points

[@samsarex4318]

Its funny how fictional characters can make an actual argument better than real politics

[@patricio5910]

The Red team watching this and eating popcorn

[@LineX240]

26:49 The medic after people spam E

[@Epsillyon]

I love how spy, the one you would expect to be the most logical and politically sound out of all of them, is by far the most unbased anyone could ever be

[@siliswest498]

When sniper’s the most reasonable one on the team, you know shits fucked

[@basedmongoloid2278]

You're pretty off on the paleoconservative position for foreign policy. They'd be more likely to agree with Sniper on those positions than not to agree. It would be a more moderate conservative position though.

[@SupremeMetalOverlord]

Pyro: Ever heard of ... The Burgundy System Me: *INTENSIVE TNO HOI4 PTSD FLASHBACKS* "NO... NO NOT THE CHILDREN BEING EUTHANIZED AND VERIFYING MY CLOCK! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

*T H E R E I S N O H O P E U N D E R T H E B L A C K S U N* - Aryan citizen from Burgundy -

[@PitunghereTNOschizo100]

Pol Pot: "I'm gonna made Burgundy like hippies, and low based".

[@Mark-fc7tu]

10:00 There are times where someone like the blue Scout might have a point: people complain about too much intervention and too little intervention alike, and they can't make up their minds about how to fix it.

[@nemtudom5074]

This is unironically hilarious! They may all be ideologically challenged, but man they know how to toss shade at each other LOL