[TF2] b4nny POV: HL Grand Finals, KND vs Rewind

[@theonlybass8947]

I love that they're playing at literally the highest level of competitive highlander and their setup comms sound like 9 drunk undergrads playing minecraft over discord

[@finmin2k]

it's all has meaning, and understanding those meanings is part of playing comp. Making, understanding, and playing around callouts is a skill that you will need to be playing at this level.

[@kayasaur2036]

@@finmin2k shut up litel baby man

[@GrampsEXCMARK]

@cuntflap3009 2 l o l

[@flaK_LG420]

@@finmin2k no o1ne asked smart ass

[@leginamon3984]

@@flaK_LG420 Replying to a comment made 1 year ago... Nice

[@bottlegang3187]

Scout on defense: Flanking, taking out projectile classes, pick eliminations, etc Scout on offense: *iS sOmEoNe gOnNa pUsH tHe fReAkIn cArT?*

[@justanalias5642]

If the enemy team is good you would probably flank more as scout on offense

[@theonlybass8947]

hl engineer defense: our entire hold depends on this sentry not dying for the first 3 minutes of the game hl engineer offense: *team yelling at you for baiting cart to build a dispenser*

[@didsomeoneaskforanegg2168]

bottle gang

[@Reragi]

41:40 rest in peace spy, died due to the worst timing possible.

[@XShiftryX]

Lmao, that's some shit luck

[@facehurt7606]

rip

[@flashcaptcha1945]

Entire team: Making loud clear callouts that are really easy to understand and they communicate alot B4nny: ok

[@jackismname]

If everyone shouted like the sniper and demo, it would be incomprehensible

[@larncieldarknciel440]

What is funny to me is that the spy who is low scoring in Banny's team is main calling when he can barely manage his own gaming. A spy is supposed to sap teleports, touch the cart, back cap, and getting thise vital picks. He is doing nothing at all. Why is he main calling? A good example can be seen when Banny is trying to bunk to pritect his heavy from incoming fire. From the enemy heavy. The strategy should have been get the spy behind them and bunk banny as distraction, so the spy can backstab the soldier and the heavy. When the enemy enginner is flanking them Banny is going around destroying teleports and chasing the engineer. He gets picked by people teleporting in after he kills the eng. The spy should be there no the scout who is needed in the front lines. Why is the guy playing spy main calling. When he said I have to go with my dad, I would have said ..... Get the hell out of here!

[@shades4385]

@@larncieldarknciel440 yeah nobody really asked tho

[@larncieldarknciel440]

@@shades4385 then Why the Hell are you reading it?

[@oneshinyboi3083]

@@larncieldarknciel440 Spy is not as effective as you think against professionals lol. Spy is the main caller because he has the most information due to him constantly being invisible among the enemies. He knows everyone’s position, health and uber, so it makes sense he makes a lot of callouts.

[@Yobleck]

I love how chaotic this is and I especially love the lack of weapon bans. I didn't realize how stale 6's could be till I heard someone call 'pyro might have phlog'.

[@Ben.N]

@Metoděj Klos it's really good

[@cinquine1]

I mean the phlog isn't banned in 6s, it's just shite. What's the point of running a pyro without airblast?

[@antthegord9411]

@@cinquine1 theres no point to play pyro in 6s in general, and idk anyone who does. Meta is 2 scouts 2 sol 1demo and 1 med. 4 of the 9 classes split among 6 ppl. Lol

[@cinquine1]

@@antthegord9411 You offclass pyro a fair bit even at the highest levels (for example in product you do it all the time, and on most 5cp lasts when defending), and some people do run it full time with a lot of success (not really at the very highest levels because ver good players can work around him, but still). Airblast is amazingly good, and will win games all the time when used right. Pyro does suffer from a "whole is less than the sum of his parts" problem, which is why he isn't run more.

[@ongopom]

@@antthegord9411 they offclass pyro at last to deny the uber

[@grimreaper1542]

B4nny looks like he could not care less playing this format haha

[@alexyu1287]

Jayden Reid because he couldn't x)

[@rafaelcastillo670]

he gone on record saying he doesnt like it so its already surprising to see him playing it in the first place

[@closegripbenchpress489]

@@rafaelcastillo670 most 6s players dont like it but its extra experience againts classes you dont see everyady. but for some reason that experience stays in hl. (most 6s medics play hl too but drop like flies to snipers on 6s)

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

36:50 "Fuck this class"

[@closegripbenchpress489]

@Concepting really? didn't know that. well its not like i care about nursey anyways

[@tkirbs4711]

They must keep him at 500% volume in whatever team chat they have. How do they understand his muttered calls when they yellin so much that’s crazy

[@alphamoonman]

Using the Boston Basher to deny the Spy a chance to heal with the medpack is genius.

[@finmin2k]

TF2's diverse complexities

[@the_tube2]

Wait how?

[@JellyBlockLP]

@@the_tube2You can't pick up a health pack at full health so b4nny hurt himself with the Boston Basher and then picked it up.

[@the_tube2]

@@JellyBlockLP oh

[@ACE5EE]

*goes to another healthpack*

[@kingjensen8091]

58:27 Grant "the Savage" Vincent

[@aronsz]

what did they say? i can't make it out

[@facehurt7606]

@@aronsz he said "i cant talk anymore"

[@StunnerzYT]

2 hours of b4nny playing tf2? Yes please

[@thotheface]

theres literally atleast 5 hours of b4nny playing tf2 every day on twitch

[@spacewaffle92]

^^^

[@nunya334]

God in good at being an owl

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

Compared to b4nny in sixes or even pubs, you can see how painful it is for him to do this

[@N00bvlog]

Legit had to check what speed I'm watching the video on. B4nny's teammates are speaking at 2x.

[@Chargersfanish]

during final push: HEKSJEHSJFKSHFJAKSBD round ends: ok everyone relax

[@GrampsEXCMARK]

I would absolutely love if you uploaded more HL content. So good.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Same

[@GrampsEXCMARK]

@Daniel von Strangle The man plays HL, that's his choice, I'm saying when he plays HL, could you please upload it. Your statement makes zero sense.

[@guscox9651]

@@GrampsEXCMARK oof

[@jafet3229]

@@GrampsEXCMARK fuck hl it's so boring 6v6 looks more fun and it looks like he's actually having fun which is better content

[@legrandfromage9682]

gay chompee how is 6v6 less boring when it’s 90% stalemates and in HL something is always happening

[@MIM0727]

41:41 this is typical spy life lol

[@theBombbrigade]

Scout is so weak in HL. b4nny firing on all cylinders to get them frags

[@oyah999]

yeah scout gets drastically weaker compared to other classes, when the player sizes gets larger.

[@closegripbenchpress489]

which is fine since hes the best class in 6s aside from medic

[@warpatato]

He's playing scout as a literal scout

[@dpear3]

It depends on the map. On koth maps scout is still incredibly strong. Cp_steel is literally the worst map in the game for scout though.

[@CryonicCy]

@Daniel von Strangle yes but your risking your team to fight 9v8 for a backcap and if the enemy know your backcapping they won't fall for it twice

[@nownumber5923]

i just realised that i have no idea how frustrating a random crit can really be if you are this good

[@Pheminon1]

B4nny dies B4nny: "really?"

[@Yobleck]

1:08:37 B4nny released a dove when he died! 1:100 chance

[@MadMax0417]

It’s only happened to me onxe

[@kingjensen8091]

I honestly was happy to see a grand final go to 3 games. I hardly ever see that

[@heidiaguirre5672]

b4nny really does look uncomfortable in HL.

[@ciriakk.]

he is a scout in highlander. How would you not be uncomfortable? i mean, you get really weaker against 8 other classes

[@kingjensen8091]

Did you hear him say "fuck this class?" I did 😂

[@oyah999]

tbh everyone in highlander probably gets immense anixiety from playing that format

[@LukeBeadles]

@@kingjensen8091 37:00

[@Parpeing]

@@oyah999 it looks so cool though, I understand the appeal of 6s over hl, but its really nice to see all 9 classes interact with each other, even if its just spy taking out a tellie entrance lmao

[@Reragi]

That second steel match, jesus christ I could feel the tension all the way from here

[@simeonox]

Timestamp?

[@MANGO-dk9cz]

F for the spy who ran into the wrap assassin.

[@grimreaper1542]

Atleast by the last few rounds B4nny was actually enjoying himself and making plays

[@user-qh5mz6ik6u]

b4nny: 2 hour video with like 3 ads Everyone else: 10 minute 1 second videos to minimize video length/effort and maximize ad revenue

[@fnutek3720]

This comment is so backwards lol. Uploading a vod is less effort than 10 min and 1 sec video with slight edits...

[@Parpeing]

@@fnutek3720 Yeah i was so confused lol even if itd just splitting the video in parts, its still more effort than not doing anything to it

[@petrichor04_]

comms more cluttered than my hoarder grandma's house

[@LANNUNLESS]

dont call ur grandma a hoar

[@siemprefreshshsh]

say what u want but b4nny went godmode on the 2nd round of the last map. that's crazy bro didn't let them do anything.

[@snowy2619]

12:09 wtf was the sniper doing???

[@pancakelover5285]

No matter how many times I watch that I cannot begin to imagine what he was doing

[@finmin2k]

lol wtf

[@aimboat709]

Snowy looking up can makes it harder for the other sniper to hit you because your hands block your face.

[@leonardo9259]

His best

[@LukeBeadles]

58:00 was the closest game of Steel I've ever seen

[@Parpeing]

that was sick

[@sinyeon]

his scout makes me im watching a casual game. because when i play in highlander match as a scout i always only push my cart. but his scout is very aggressive than me. thanks for uploading another highlander video, b4nny!

[@hkhjg1734]

HL is so fun to watch

[@zachrobinson8357]

Now THIS is an esport. Constant action, intense combat, constant fallouts to the point where no one watching knows what tf is going on. it’s got it all! Besides, like, huge football stadium-sized tournaments.

[@fnutek3720]

In Esports you want people to know what is going on. Thats why there is usually commentators on bigger Esports like lol, cs, dota and such. Tf2 hl is probably one of the worst Esports to watch. sixes is more watchable but there is still a huge strategic understanding that falls flat in tf2 comp as a viewer.

[@chicken1117]

@@fnutek3720 tbh I prefer to watch highlander but I can see why 6s is a better gamemode

[@fnutek3720]

@@chicken1117 its more interesting from a new players perspective because it usually means your favourite class gets played

[@chicken1117]

@@fnutek3720 nah I just prefer the maps they play. Also you are sounding a bit elitist.

[@fnutek3720]

@@chicken1117 sixes and hl usually play same maps. Its just about whatever the different players preffer.

[@bloodtrocuter]

53:19 love the voice comms

[@joenuclear8533]

Thanks B4nny its been a minute since we've seen some HL on KZbin

[@therealwetwizard]

Man I love B4nny's POV ;)

[@El_Leviatan]

TF2 with communication it's so much more inmersive, no matter the outcome you always end up with a smile

[@Mattchu44]

Competitive TF2 would have had more viewers and drawn more people to it if Highlander was the default comp mode. It’s more exciting, it allows more people access to it, and it’s easier to follow.

[@gub4941]

Steel is such a cool map

[@larncieldarknciel440]

The enemy heavy has a sick aim. If you see him you are dead not even Banny's scout can fool his aim.

[@SciRuler]

Yeah but regardless his main weakness is being slow, in formats like that it’s fine, other classes will keep the pressure but if u don’t have a good team, or are on 5cp competitive, you’re gonna have a bad time.

[@BertTF2]

That jugquake at 8:00

[@fishbowl4798]

10:22 Cartcartcartcartcartcartcartcartcart

[@amp4105]

shaay doesnt take as many shots as he should, resorting to noscoping.

[@gleb1279]

41:40 :D

[@Humungus_Fungus]

Nursey is actually a really good medic. I would love to see her pov too.

[@cockatoo010]

twitch.tv/NurseyTF2

[@Pheminon1]

Ehhhhhh Nursey is alright, but shade is so much better I would say Nursey is like top 10-5 medics

[@Humungus_Fungus]

@@Pheminon1 Why always someone have to say Shade is better...Nursey is a really good medic. Or top 5 isnt good?

[@Pheminon1]

@@Humungus_Fungus Nursey milks too much and gets dropped unless being completely protected by the team. I recommend watching Froyotech vs. Froyo Black from last ESEA season. Nursey dropped like 7 times

[@Humungus_Fungus]

@@harrispetrushko3763 yes, but I remember she wanted to be refered to as a woman (but maybe that changed..)

[@amyziie]

cart pov POG

[@MrShannon1982]

Everytime you die, "Are you fucking kidding me dude" Hurrrrrrrrrr

[@snowy2619]

Wow didn’t know this all class thing was a thing! Pretty cool imo

[@buck8244]

As a filthy EU Prem HL player I can safely say these are the most aids cluttered comms i have ever heard jesus christ, i have literally no idea what is going on

[@poytf]

Worst than gaeta calls, can you believe it?

[@RAM1776]

Weird looking back on this knowing that River was cheating.

[@ELL546]

How did you know they were cheating?

[@RAM1776]

@@ELL546 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6rLiJ2Bqa50b6c

[@plbster]

True, like at 56:02

[@_-4232]

My fav comp video!

[@j4nnytor]

Maincalling spy is the new meta.

[@sleepingomen9425]

"Clearly" 4s is the most viable esport here like come on, 8 PEOPLE ONLY?

[@finmin2k]

6s is objectively better, and I say that as someone who owns a 4s team and plays 4s. I just suck ass at sixes

[@finmin2k]

@Dam Sen that comment was a joke, but I agree with its sentiment. 6s is a lot more team based, has a lot more coordination and skill required to succeed comparatively. 4s isn't bad, though. It promotes mixing the game up and going for weird plays. That being said, don't get the idea that 4s "have more tension and deaths matter more". 4s is fun, but suffers from these. For one, it doesn't have more tension. Not sure where you got that. You must've never seen a good 6s game. Second, there are not more "risks" in 4s, there's more stupid plays. People go for low percentage plays a lot in 6s, which are risks. People in 4s go for risks, but they also go for more stupid plays. That's not taking more risks, that's playing dumber. Plus, these two things are minor and even if they were true would mean nothing for your argument. 6s is objectively better. There are so many things that make 6s the perfect way to play competitive tf2, especially when compared to 4s. I've heard people argue for prolander, I've heard people argue for highlander. I've never heard someone dumb enough to unironically argue for 4s, except you.

[@finmin2k]

@Lewis CAVOLO I don't have the soul rn to argue but please call it Highlander

[@excme22]

4s is dead anyway

[@jeffreychen5130]

god fucking damn it, i thought the thumbnail was a pricture of ctf landfall, why is there a control point on what i thought was the brwon tree in the middle? no clue

[@Appstoneoffice]

9v9 mode should add to official

[@JohnSmith-wf1xq]

Really no

[@khinlop]

7:50 b33f

[@eyrenuest]

knd would have won the first map if their demo was performing better. There were many instances where he should be trapping the cart but he was either dead or doing other things somewhere.

[@outplayboy]

6:01 is there a respawn command?

[@TocoOW]

he uses loadout binds, you can go to options and bind a button to loadouts A - C, for example I have J on A and K on B loadout, if you press it while getting to spawn it basically instantly respawns you

[@KimFareseed]

Loudout switch buttons. You have the option to bind Loadout A to D in options. Hit the button while in spawn. You will respawn in your teams latest active spawn after the item server notice the loadout switch. If you have multiple spawn rooms, you will respawn in either one of them, for example defending team on Badwater and Frontier after 2 controll points are capped. Be aware with items that build up meters or head collecting, as their counters/meters will be reset on respawn. The meters won't reset if that exact item is on the loadout you are going to swap to, and you don't respawn, but just hit the resupply. HUD elements for some meters might not show up in some cases when you quick swap between loadouts that has where one has that meter but the other don't. If you use the loadout switch buttons while waiting to respawn as a different class, the loadout swap will happen to the class you died as and not the one that you will respawn as.

[@whydoiexist2180]

I loved the bonk play

[@ShadyProductionsMC]

Is just capping more points a win condition? Just capping faster could lead to weird situations where letting the enemy cap is optimal if they cap a few fast and then get held for a while. Like if they cap first in 26 seconds, why not just wait it out and try to hold one point for 26 seconds to win (26 seconds was the fastest point in this game).

[@brontesenth]

Because they have the win condition of either capping it in a faster time, or capping the next point in all the remaining map time. Since it's relatively easy to cap points in this game, that would be a death sentence. i.e. You cap A in 20 seconds and decide to not push anymore. When the other team plays on offense, they can win by capping A in less than 20, or capping B.

[@justarock3238]

2017 Nursey: Leaves Froyotech to prove that he can win without b4nny. 2019 Nursey: Literally joins every team b4nny is in now.

[@Shit2223]

2020 nursery: oof

[@sinappanis]

Is it just me or do Bowl and Demento sound exactly the same?

[@kingkrispy5289]

58:22 had me sweating like I just dead lifted 900 pounds to save my life 💀

[@thescaletblur07]

I bought a wrap assassin because of this video and now I use it all the time

[@cacekayse]

Your teammates drank too much coffee to speak that fast

[@BonceMonster]

What res does he play on looks clean af love stretched

[@reakq_q]

Kinda late but 1024x768

[@mamamiazakaria7481]

Holy fuck these comms, the why competitive would be more optimal if 6v6 was fixed.

[@WraithTDK]

I don't understand why the gear was level 2 at start instead of 3.

[@kjkh3104]

42:37 how is a ubercharge being "faked"?

[@aimboat709]

Kirusan *-* their medic used the I have undercharged voice line when he was at 80% charge.

[@VolansTF2]

Every single time he died "what the fuck was that"

[@lwsixo2726]

One thing i was wondering, ehy do comp players uses the scattergun at longer ranges when the pistol deals more dm at that range?

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

I enjoy comp in every shooter i play. I badly want to get involved in the comp scene for tf2 but the only comp players i've ever met came to a server i play on and picked me out of the bunch to harass. It got pretty bad and they are now banned but i gotta say it has me a little intimidated. I assume most comp players aren't actually shitty people? I mean yall seem cool. How does one get started in this scene? How do i meet people willing to play with a noob?

[@bekativus]

If youre in EU theres a fresh meat league for new players

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@@bekativus sadly I am not :(

[@bobfilm-c9r]

Idk how ur doing now but nc teams are pretty acceptable with bad players

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

@@bobfilm-c9r I never took the dive but I’m not against giving it a try still. What is “NC”?

[@bobfilm-c9r]

@@JustHereForTheDialogue newcomer

[@tappajaav]

3:22 look at the skipping, that sniper is playing with freaking high sens

[@finmin2k]

they all do

[@tappajaav]

Can't agree with that one

[@finmin2k]

@@tappajaav most high-level comp snipers use surprisingly high sense. Not all _that_ high though.

[@tappajaav]

That's all very subjective, coming from cs background anything that lets you do 360 once or more with mousepad swipe is high. What's _surprisingly high_ in this context?

[@finmin2k]

@@tappajaav most people have around a 6" 360, but I'd imagine theirs is much higher.

[@smallwaves]

41:40 lmao

[@Turvey-bo1qz]

Why does b4nny use the wrap Assassin?

[@samlivingood5137]

Melee is kinda useless, so bleed spam

[@closegripbenchpress489]

cheap damage, boston basher is pointless since you can use atomizer

[@KimFareseed]

@@closegripbenchpress489 I guess Basher to help build Uber dosn't happen in HL.

[@willowdrakon]

15:00

[@bateman9459]

Why is b4nny using the wrap assassin?

[@goz4659]

Also Boston basher isn't needed because there are more players to farm Uber off

[@henrybottomsworth]

@やよいっち whats your profile picture from

[@leferraille7207]

@やよいっち wouldn't the bleed make them get healed by the medic and get uber faster?

[@closegripbenchpress489]

@@leferraille7207 thats not relevant since you have a ton of people to heal that are always injured. especially heavy. in hl unless you're turtling really hard and no one is taking damage generally you build uber at the max rate

[@leferraille7207]

@@closegripbenchpress489 ah ok

[@kayasaur2036]

hold it spy dont touch that sentry

[@banderse77]

I like this better than the 6x6

[@hoodcate]

36

[@samael5552]

Carcin loves banny

[@Aruk02]

I don't know what would be harder, focusing on playing the game well, or trying to understand what his team is saying, it's SO MANY call outs being thrown everywhere, how do they coordinate at all? xD

[@Igelme]

it's easier than it sounds. when you play so much you don't really "think" about the calls, it's almost like muscle memory. imagine a league of leguends, dota or hots teamfight, if I stopped at any point and asked you the remaining cooldown (if any) on each player's ability, you would have no idea, but still you probably know who has ult up, who doesn't, who already wasted CC, etc. the same thing happens here, you know the general positions of the enemy team and you pick up important calls like "uber's up, spy behind us, scout flanking, soldier spam cart" and so on.

[@kyle-cs1dl]

@@Igelme compared to the games you mentioned, comms is still harder in tf2. In dota, you can see everything your teammates see, theres visual indicators for basically everything (hp, cooldowns etc.) Call outs only happen when someone wants to coordinate something and its usually just the captain. In tf2 theres a damn call out for everything you do.

[@fnutek3720]

@@kyle-cs1dl Same for csgo. but they boil down the comms in that game because sounds are more important

[@epitath762]

was he playing with xqc? banny was really ahead of his time

[@kayasaur2036]

imagine playing hl

[@guuswolletjes6867]

*Carried*

[@ascarydude]

Highlander comms are a mess

[@petrichor04_]

50:45

[@happyarnur]

more. pleass.

[@mikevismyelement]

Comms are a mess with this many people tbh

[@hojin9626]

What

[@YsatMKM]

Could someone tell me the HUD he's using in this video I've been searching for it but no success. Thanks!

[@anteD.]

Default lol

[@YsatMKM]

@@anteD. sheesh

[@leguminous7564]

YES, 15th! What an honor

[@grimreaper1542]

This should be good

[@alien2562]

how you play 9vs9 ?

[@martinivanov4658]

Highlander

[@jarnine9803]

Why is his frame rate so bad sometimes, is it just the playback that is laggy?

[@curtisehoffman]

I assume this is a Twitch vod, not a direct capture. I'd imagine that's the issue.

[@bunstie5208]

1:56:01

[@Spriggals]

Jungle jungle jungle jungle cart cart cart cart wait wait wait wait gogogogo live live live live left left left left

[@MrHolydoodle]

I wonder, why b4nny playing scout? I mean, in hl scout isn't that important... Or if he played on demo it would be to easy?

[@feedtheorist9944]

or maybe the team picked him up on scout? lmao

[@spark3236]

wait which team does b4nny play for

[@leaderboard354]

yes

[@Pheminon1]

KND

[@fnutek3720]

Froyotech?

[@jaanbrennan6748]

sbeve

[@Dr_Right2]

1:29:09 HAHAHAHA

[@attendez3867]

I think b4nny is still thinks he is playing 6s