[TF2] Every Class's BEST MvM Upgrade

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[@WeezyTF2]

Get a browser that’s literally better at everything: operagx.gg/WeezyTF2 Very curious to see what the consensus on these picks are, if you have any disagreements, drop em below.

[@ConsumePaydayContent]

1:34 Deltarune best mod

[@dragonlord4898]

Promotion Skip Button: 2:30

[@TheTundraTerror]

@@dragonlord4898 >not using sponsorblock

[@mil260zs]

i wont change from brave, but that tf2 theme surprised me ngl, kinda amazing if you ask me

[@mendyshelios0451]

GX is so useless, its just a marketing for stupid geymers. Just use regular Opera.

[@EmiZero167]

Cant wait for the "Every Class worst Upgrades" and the "Every Class Upgrades I Was Wrong about"

[@WeezyTF2]

You know the meta

[@shadowtd9982]

The mini sentry upgrade:

[@kouta1311]

Gotta respect the hustle

[@WhiskeyWater]

Don’t forget him revisiting it again, “Every Class Upgrade I Was Wrong about Revisited”

[@ralphthejedimaster]

@@shadowtd9982 honestly disposable sentry would be solid if it was just 200 credits instead of 500, it's not worthless it's just way too overpriced when engi has so many other better options for cheaper

[@madezio2]

I'm going to guess your choices before seeing the video: Scout: Movement speed Soldier: Rocket specialist lv1 Pyro: Gas explode Demoman: Reload/firing speed on stickybombs Heavy: Minigun firing speed Engineer: Dispenser range Medic: Shield Sniper: Explosive headshot Spy: Getting kicked before upgrading

[@mattsib01]

pretty accurate, all things considered.

[@coconutmug]

Real

[@newponysnewhome]

the average mvm player is doomed

[@walukirby]

For a serious guess for spy before watching: the armor breaking one

[@coconutmug]

@@walukirby Agreed 100%

[@cocksneedfartin]

I wish we could see the MVM player count before and after Weezy uploads because I can’t be the only one who gets the itch to play it again after every video

[@Nick_santana1]

I didn't like playing mvm until I started to watch weezy's videos and understood the meta

[@neonchaos7116]

Spy also has the crit on kill upgrade for melee, it's just that nobody uses or needs it when playing spy unless they're trying to gunspy with occasional stabs.

[@Loner098]

And mainly when they use it to "shred" tanks.

[@Quickstein]

Even so, Demoknight undoubtedly gets more mileage out of Crits on Kill, since Spy already has access to an instakill attack on small bots, which is how he'd be activating it most often. It also doesn't benefit him against giants, which is where Spy shines most.

[@inkyjonin5341]

​@@QuicksteinI can see it being useful for when you stab a bot, but are focused by the other bots too far away to stab, and need to make a getaway so you backpedal taking some potshots with your l'etranger

[@sqwimpy-4]

​@@inkyjonin5341Why the hell are you using the l'etranger in mvm??

[@inkyjonin5341]

@@sqwimpy-4 dead ringer charge in like 2 shots

[@zerbit6969]

It's easy to know what are the worst upgrades, but the best upgrades are kinda tricky

[@TheThiccestChungus]

Except for sniper

[@C0DY420]

Heavy is easy, knockback rage

[@manchungus3486]

@@C0DY420 Wow, how dumb do you have to be to think knockback rage is better than shotgun firing speed.

[@ThePowerofCutleries]

That's a nice non-statement you just made there.

[@VeryPeeved]

best upgrades in MVM have always seemed like a strange case for me

[@arkyfalke5923]

2:30 Scout (Movement Speed / Damage & Clip Size for an aggressive playstyle / resistances for safety) 4:14 Soldier (Reload Speed) 5:45 Pyro (Damage / Explode on Ignite / Health on Kill) 7:16 Sticky Demo (Reload Speed) - 7:39 Demoknight (Crits on kill) - Scottish Resistance Demo (Crit Canteen / Damage) 9:56 Heavy (Firing Speed / Resistances / Health on Kill) 11:23 Engineer (Dispenser Range) 13:00 Medic (Projectile Shield / Canteen Specialist) 14:31 Sniper (Explosive Headshot) 15:37 Spy (Armor Penetration) Let me know if I missed anything!

[@HeisenbergFam]

The best MvM upgrade is the teamwork that makes the dream work

[@tvojamamasine]

precisely the opposite of what walt does in the latter part of breaking bad

[@DannyCheezits]

are you an AI

[@bigpvzfan42069]

heisenburger

[@maxim7amd576]

​@@DannyCheezitshe is

[@GamingTopTen]

I gotta say that I am surprised that you did not mention overheal upgrades on Medic. The fact it increases the total overheal for both the start of the game and throughout incidental healing in the mission, makes overheal last longer, AND increases how long you get the increased uber build rate on injured targets makes it my top pick for the best upgrade regardless of whether your team is cannon fodder or professional.

[@Nyxael5845]

Quick Fix + Max Healing Mastery = Damage Sponge

[@ceu160193]

Surprised that they also didn't mention sapper upgrades/Heavy's shoot down projectiles/Heavy's piercing upgrades. Heavy naturally can't hurt multiple targets at the same time, and projectiles tend to hurt a lot even with stacked up resistance, so firing rate + shooting down projectiles = enemy Spamdiers aren't as big of an issue, as usual, and piercing upgrade allows to hurt up to 3 robots with each bullet - quite useful for mowing down a horde. When combined with rage, Heavy becomes more effective at stalling horde too, as each bullet affects up to 3 enemies. Sapper literally stops bomb carrier in it's tracks AND allows to facestab group of robots.

[@nnirr1]

I actually always prefer the specialist for these reasons. By healing my teammates faster I recharge the shield faster which gives me more shield time

[@thevillainsvidya4993]

@@ceu160193 sapper is almost never worth using on spy because it makes giants turn towards the spy. It's also just not very helpful because you have to walk into a group of robots to use it, and any unsapped robots will shoot you while you're trying to stab stunned bots. Other classes are much more reliable for crowd control. Sapper is just kind of nice to have, like sandvich on heavy. You wouldn't play heavy because he has a sandvich though, it's a very inefficient way to heal teammates. You're sort of right about projectile destruction though. It used to be the meta upgrade and that only changed with medic's shield. Depending on the wave it can be critical to have if you don't have a medic.

[@matthiasbarish1296]

As a fresh install, this is incredibly helpful, weezy blesses us again

[@sirpotato8733]

He did not tell the full truth the credit card is mvm best all class upgrade since you can't play without money or tickrts

[@matthiasbarish1296]

@@sirpotato8733 boot camp lmao

[@sirpotato8733]

@@matthiasbarish1296 damn I can't really play bootcamo ntgl the dopamine of getting intens even if they are trash it's the only thing that makes mvm worth it for me

[@matthiasbarish1296]

@@sirpotato8733 I just like blowing the robots up and messing around with loadouts n stuff

[@VsAngeel]

Uninstall right now

[@linksbro1]

I think resistances for Scout are more important than you give credit for, because of one of Scout's most powerful assets; taking agro and making giants aim in the opposite direction of your team, and that often leads to multiple giants focus firing on you, and you won't survive without resistances. This also allows your team to not need to spec into resistances as much, even on late waves.

[@Underworlder5]

agreed. even if you have pro level dodging skills, MVM throws so much at you that there is no way to avoid all of it. money overheal is not enough to survive, especially in waves that mainly consist of giants. i prefer to max crit res and then carefully balance out resistances, movement speed and DPS. good dodging allows you to skip out on some resistances in the early game, but you still need to build at least a little for all the damage coming your way

[@tommykibbleton]

one interesting thing about dispenser range that i realised recently is that on missions where medic is a common pick, it can inadvertently make it slower for him to build ubercharge. the medi-gun has a mechanic where your ubercharge is cut in half if your patient is already being healed by another source, which includes other medics, dispensers and the payload cart. while this is a slight annoyance, it probably isn't as big a deal as it sounds as there's many great ways to build uber quickly, even outside of just healing (ubersaw sentry busters, escape plan soldier, zatoichi demo, etc.), and you can always heal people who are outside of the dispenser's range whenever you have the chance. just something interesting that i noticed recently that might be interesting to know when it comes to playing medic in mvm.

[@Ruckels_A_Game_Enjoyer]

Hello I'm existing

[@IdiotDemoKnight]

🔥🔥🔥

[@Jack_bonfire]

Not for long

[@leebard9335]

Do you still exist?

[@ps2man38]

For scout: specifically the “secret” soda popper firing speed.

Why is it in quotation marks? Is it frequently forgotten?

[@aigis0423]

@Its because The Soda Popper isn’t supposed to have a firing speed upgrade, but there’s a bug that can let you invest into it.

[@amalive3199]

"no other class is blessed with crit on kills" *me crying as spy*

[@fractalisomega9517]

I’d definitely have to put Mad Milk Syringes as a close 3rd on the Medic, the self heal and team heal capabilities are wonderful, especially when your shield is down and you need a way to keep your team alive A quick spritz from your gun into a giant or group can often save you at low HP and relieve pressure on your Scout who may be getting money atm

[@The24thWight]

This is amazing. You really do help my confidence in the boot camp missions a lot. Maybe one day I'll get around to playing a real tour!

[@Brown95P]

The best way to start doing Mann Up is with a bunch of friends, and it's not even remotely close. Once you got two or three tours in your belt from that experience and learned what to do and what not to do in the process (trial & error will make sure you do), you won't feel the peer pressure as much in randoms and the gameplan becomes like second nature to you.

[@M_cosmo_M]

Weezy blesses us with his MVM knowledge once again

[@oneinthechamber7616]

WEEZY UPLOAD ON MVM LETS GOOOOO, you’ve helped me so much, i just started playing mvm with your tips and i’m alr doing better than i thought i’d ever do

[@ShadowMar_CZ]

Spy is very underrated in MvM in my experience is Spy one of the best and important choises for MvM. Only weak is dealing with tank (waves where are more than 2 tanks are problem) For big chance to win you need in team always Engineer, Medic and Spy with right uprgrades

[@pokefire953]

Imagine if spy had explosive backstabs

[@Brown95P]

Give that to his Sapper, make it replace its radius upgrades and boom: two birds with one stone.

[@pokefire953]

@@Brown95P just give spy anything please

[@SyRose901]

​@@pokefire953Eh, when Spy is one of the best in some hard waves, I don't mind Armor Penetration being his only hope.

[@michaeljonathan9715]

​@@SyRose901Yeah but you need 100000 hours playing as spy, 100000 words of planning, non-troll teammate / newly played teammate / not toxic teammate that mic-spam and if not vote kick you or afk and then chat "Not playing 'till get loot", 0 pyro bot (and other debuffing bots such as sydney sleeper sniper, madmilk scout, etc.) screwing your disguise and invisibility with afterburn, and TF2's janky 0,015 second tickrate which is known to broke heavy's 2nd firing speed upgrade and engineer's 2nd firing speed upgrade without wrangler and 3rd firing speed upgrade and other class are MUCH easier compared to spy (Just shoot the bots/tank in specific range/angle, don't shoot pyro-bot that airblast with projectiles, and generally heal & revive teammate with just see if there is threatening robot nearby, if not then a click of a button then boom, 1/4 of your job as medic is done.)

[@Brown95P]

@@michaeljonathan9715 Bruh, Spy is not that hard in mvm; he just doesn't bring much to the table outside of reliable anti-giants & some anti-medicbots on the side. Stop using the kunai like a filthy casual for once and you'll find you get screwed over by things much less often.

[@Spiffyo]

In all honesty I actually thought heal mastery would be the best for medic, just the thought of quickly getting everyone healthy seemed like the best choice.

[@balancemaster55]

I mean you don’t need heals if scout uses milk properly.

[@ceu160193]

@@balancemaster55 You need overheals, so that crit rocket doesn't end someone instantly. With Quick-fix it also makes Medic himself more resilient.

It also speeds up reviving teammates.

[@clowny943]

2 thing 1. Spy has the sapper which is useful for slowing scout bots or giants in general which can be useful on the last wave and it cna be used against uber meds 2. Spy also has crits on kill its useful for if you cant reach the back of a bot.

[@theherolost0237]

I love the use of all the MMX music in your videos.

[@willrussell4327]

One of the positives for dispenser range is also that it doesnt have to take splash damage, so it also does all those benefits for longer

[@icetide9411]

Today I learned the reason scouts are always already overhealed when I try to heal them is because they gain health from money. The more you know

[@sirpotato8733]

Wait what

[@absoluteaquarian]

@@sirpotato8733when scout picks up cash (even the red cash from sniper kills which were already added to the credit total) it will give scout health or overheal if he’s at max health

[@sirpotato8733]

@@absoluteaquarian can you explain me what red cash is sometimes I see that but it does not add cash when I pick it up

[@absoluteaquarian]

@@sirpotato8733 whenever a Sniper gets a kill, the cash from the robot is automatically added to the credit total (since it would be a pain for the other classes to grab it from far away) A cash pile is still dropped for visual effects, but since its amount has already been collected, picking up the cash pile doesn’t add any more

[@sirpotato8733]

@@absoluteaquarian oh thx

[@princesscadance197]

I’m somewhat new to MVM. I think I have 10 tours completed in Mann Up. So not a complete newbie, but also not a high tour with tours numbering in the triple or quadruple digits. I play mostly Scout, Medic, or Engineer, and when I play Engineer, Dispenser Range is my immediate ‘max first’ upgrade. Because even without this video or any guide, I don’t want teammates too close to my dispenser, which may just end up having the dispenser eat some splash damage meant for the teammate, the dispenser might go down, so that puts more strain on our Medic, they have no ammo restoration, and things go downhill.

[@cowmanceo]

Thanks dude for your tips! I got a australium knife on tour 3!

[@MerkONeil]

Guessing Upgrades beforehand and seeing how many I get right Scout - Jump Height or Speed ✅ Soldier - Reload Speed or Rocket Specialist ✅ Pyro - Gas Passer Ignition (or just Damage if we want to void it). ➖ Demoman - Damage or Reload ✅ Heavy - Firing Speed✅ Engineer - Dispenser Range✅ Medic - Shield ➖ Sniper - Explosive Headshot ✅ Spy - Armor Penetration✅ Edit: ~8/9, not too bad lol

[@DatDavdus]

7:43 Gotta correct you on that, Spy's knifes also have the crits on kill upgrade. I can see a world where this increases his group damage potential, but it isn't great for him I gotta admit. He does have it tho!

[@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877]

if giant backstab damage was actually increased by crits on kill by 3x then it would have the potential, but sadly (or fortunately for a balance perspective) no

[@dorianc.4372]

I play engie a lot and I think that in later waves switching to stock wrench and upgrading it's firing speed is really good as it doesn't have repair reduction, and it's firing speed combied with repairs can outcome even the jag

[@CodyBones004]

Going from the "worst upgrades" video to this is night and day in video quality. You really improved in the span of like a year and a half!!

[@wolfcl0ck]

Funny you mention scottish resistance crit canteens, it brings up a memory of something that happened once. I once pointed out to a high tour on Two Cities that stickytrapping the door on big rock while nobody else can do anything takes the same amount of effort and skill as gas passing the door and he got so mad he tried to vote me off.

[@ARandomNope]

you forget that spy ALSO has the crits on kill upgrade on his knife, but that's the key thing, they are on his KNIFE, unless you've just killed a giant and there are still small robots left around you, that +4 seconds of crits aren't gonna be used.

[@kubaGR8]

KGB heavy? Not an upgrade tho

[@otakusatanist]

Doesn't matter that it's on knife, if you start dpsing with your revolver as a spy you're playing him wrong

[@moonmelons]

Honestly the only thing crits on kill gives spy is something the diamondback gives even better without upgrades, as the only time you really care about gun on spy is when there's a tank and nothing else for spy to be doing.

[@Echok2ller]

That actually helped me know what upgrades to get

[@cheesywaterbottle]

I’ve litteraly been waiting for this video to release since I started watching you and I’m so happy that it’s finally here

[@patrickgardner2204]

I feel that for medic, overheal expert deserves some consideration. Giving your teammates a personal damage buffer to absorb unseen crits or incoming headshots mean alot, especially when you are in the low tours, where stupid deaths are more common.

[@vain7680]

Listen, the first time I played scout in MvM, I loved it. Using the sandman with the marked feature and then maxing out the rest of the stats made it incredible. My assist count was almost equal to the total amount of damage delt between everyone.

[@lu7ky]

did not know the bit about the damage vs shield, thanks

[@crimsoniscrimson]

Weapon Upgrades in MvM has always seemed like a strange case to me

[@The_Mentlegen_]

I would LOVE for you to make a Wave 666/Caliginous Caper video! I mostly play boot camp, and it's my most played mission. I find it easier, despite its difficulty, than the rest of MVM, due to it's MASSIVE starting credit amount.

[@Brown95P]

Armor Penetration is definitely the most valuable as Spy, but the Sapper Radius upgrade has real merit in effectively killing groups of Uber Medicbots, especially when your Demo used his trap to kill a previous group and is still setting back up -- of course, this point is effectively moot with a Sniper, but so is a lot of stuff in the face of Explosive Headshot. Also, Medic's best upgrade is definitely Canteen Specialist. Why? Uber Canteens; on top of letting you get free Ubersaw hits, they also effectively let your team's top aggro eat up all of the spam like Projectile Shield while still being affordable enough to buy throughout a mission without breaking the bank -- Projectile Shield definitely comes close second as a great emergency option though. Incidentally, what are the Nade Launchers' most valuable upgrade to you, especially as Demo can't waste his Crit Canteens willy-nilly? l'm guessing Reload Speed like with Soldier and Sticky Demo, but l don't remember the Nades' upgrade lineup so there might be something more important in there.

[@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877]

one tick on the sapper radius upgrade does wonders, after that... ehhh

[@Brown95P]

@@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877 l don't know the exact specifics for every tick, so l might be wrong on this, but l do remember needing at least two ticks to make it work on most clumps.

[@C0DY420]

I think uber canteens are the best for demoknight because of crits on kill effectively removes the need for crit canteens, or at least drastically reduce the need for them

[@greengreninja5725]

Great song choices! Forgot how hard Asteroid Coaster goes.

[@rileypeters5055]

I always love seeing your uploads, thanks for the lesson!

[@officialvalentino]

this man is the MvM KING!!! keep up the great content!

[@skyeshoe.223]

If you're looking for more MVM video ideas, you could try the modded 10 or 20 player MVM servers

[@KozelPraiseGOELRO]

12:21 That words made me remember good old times. R. I. P. Fridge

[@Doctor_Calico]

Hey, Weezy, I have been making videos on being a high (ish) tour Spy, and I say that I believe there are other really good Spy strong points: 1. Drawing aggro - Literally every robot in the game is out for your blood as Spy. You can use this to bait out robots with either very annoying, very slow, or very slow-firing attacks, such as the Blast Soldiers, the giant crit soldiers with rockets that move slower than snails, or the giant Black Box soldiers, respectively. 2. Dropping aggro - Dead Ringer can almost immediately drop robot aggro, though there is indeed some jank. Useful as a getaway. 3. Offtank Support Spy - Building the Spy as if he's the Scout actually turns him into an all-rounder. While you are missing out on Giant damage, sure, you can supplement practically everyone on the team as a support instead of pure damage - upgrade sapper power, resistances, and mobility, at max 2 health-on-kill with the knife, go hog wild. You'll be a menace to robot society. You can also collect money in relative safety while disguised, the rust buckets won't bat an eye until you're in contact with them for a few seconds. 4. Large Robot Effectiveness: All of the "large" robots (not Giants) can still be instantly killed by your knife. Fists of steel Heavies, the Giant crit Huntsmen snipers on Empire Escalation wave 2, the Samurai Knights, all of which are really annoying, can be immediately dealt with with a single backstab from any knife with no upgrades. They are also stunned by the Sapper instead of Slowed, so they're even more vulnerable to the Spy than they look.

[@chaotick100]

very useful stuff! you mentioned fire rate being bugged though, is there a list of bugged upgrades and what that means for picking them?

[@alexm9603]

When he says the second tick of heavy firing speed is broken, does he mean only the second tick? Or the second tick onward?

[@alertlucasalexander9994]

I dunno, hope someone answers this

[@agentblackbird9435]

Songs that I can recognize (since nothing is in the description) • Mob Smash - Smash Ultimate • Asteroid Coast Act 1 - Sonic Colors • Magma Dragoon - Mega Man X4 • Blue Spheres - Sonic Mania • Not sure what song this is but I know it’s from a Gen 5 Pokémon game • Storm Owl - Mega Man X4

[@MadMax-ii8gq]

These videos gonna make me get back into MVM.

[@SertFilzon]

I was expecting that you'd cover a simple upgrade guide on what to generally prioritise first, like what you did with the sniper. One point into Explosive Headshot, then prioritising Reload Speed. I can see that people will now rather prioritise the best upgrades that you mentioned to the max before focussing on other upgrades. When I was a new MvM player years ago I wondered what upgrades to generally prioritise first and what loadouts would be good, when new friends play MvM I also try to give them advice on what upgrades generally are good and which weapons are good or important for the class they're playing. So I would love to see a video where you go over some general upgrades people should rather invest in. It would be great to have a picture visually indicating prio 1/2/3 upgrades. With Engi as an example Prio 1 should be Dispenser Range, Prio 2 would be one point into sentry firing speed, building health and upgrade canteens etc. Would also be great to give two builds for classes like Scout or Medic, one that prioritises offensiveness for more advanced players to specc into Damage and Crits, the other prioritises defensive builds that are more suited for newer players like going for more milk and resistance upgrades and focusing on healing mastery and overheal expert over getting more Ubers out. Also PLEASE make a video on how to build a good team in MvM, I'm still meeting people that bully people out of the room because they're playing a class that isn't "meta". Just explaining the general roles that are often necessary to bring along, like Engineer to provide his mates with a dispenser, someone who can deal with Uber medics like a gas passer Pyro, an explosive headshot Sniper or a stickybomb Demoman. I still see people telling others they have to play a specific class while not knowing exactly why.

[@gold_awesome]

A little surprised at the mad milk slow upgrade not getting a mention, even though I do agree with movement speed being better overall. Though the possible additional upgrade of forcing mini crits against bots doused in milk is fun to think about, even if it’s just reinforcing the position of Scout’s best secondary.

[@dudewithnolifepoop]

that would make the fan o war almost useless

[@Gardivanyth]

The Mad Milk slowing effect notably doesn't stack with the movement speed penalty given to most giants. It effectively means only small robots (which get slowed down when picking up the bomb) and Super Scouts are slowed down. Don't get me wrong, it's a very useful ability, especially in waves with Super Scout bumrushes. But I feel like the fact that it doesn't affect the actually dangerous giants as well takes it out of the running.

[@SenyiKimmo]

@@Gardivanyth tbf giant scouts are incredibly dangerous if you don't treat them with enough respect.

[@susnus]

Video idea, beating a hard mvm map with an all off meta/subclass team

[@dispentryporter8621]

I mean, that's not very interesting as lots of off-meta choices like Spy and Damage Scout excel at harder missions much more than the standard team composition.

[@NanaKyoto]

TECNHICALLY Soldier can get the crits on kill upgrade, but that requires some backdoor shenanigans like with the increased firing speed on Soda Popper. While I hate advertising my own content in comments in other user's videos, I made a video showcasing this little trick...let's just keep this our little secret, yes?

[@kierannath4682]

Loved the Mario analogy for smash

[@purplehaze2358]

Engineer probably has the single most broken set of MVM upgrades out of any class.

[@ricksmith1975]

11:56 my normal-difficulty upgrade combo for engi is two-way, upgrade canteen, one dispenser range tick on wave 1 for 400$ missions

[@claytopolis]

That part about spy made me think of how to make spy a more viable class for mvm. Obvious upgrade ideas include a scout style money magnet, but i was also thinking something like sappers marking enemies for death or exploding on kill. Maybe give some upgrades to the invisibility watches too like better resistance while cloaked or increased capacity/recharge time.

[@Gardivanyth]

I thought it might be fun to have the Sapper have more utility-focused upgrades, like gaining a money vacuum effect like Scout's when held. The Sapper definitely has potential to improve Spy's utility, rather than it just being a super-powerful Mad Milk on a long cooldown.

[@claytopolis]

@@Gardivanyth maybe it could also have a jamming aura around the spy that prevents non giants from targeting him. gives him a bit more survivability

[@dispentryporter8621]

As someone who has played a frankly unhealthy amount of Spy in MvM, he's perfectly viable as is. I honestly think wave composition is the best way to "buff" Spy, as he excels in custom missions that employ more aggresive Giant spam than Valve missions do, the kind where several Giants spawn rapidly from multiple different spawns where a Demo could not possibly keep up no matter how good they are. Most Valve missions just don't play to Spy's strengths but plenth of community missions do.

[@StilvurBee]

i think the only change spy needs is disguise and cloak oriented upgrades: like damage resist while disguised, faster disguising, less to no movement speed penalty while disguised (which could just be a QOL change instead of an upgrade), cloak recharge speed or cloak on kill, and faster cloaking and decloaking

[@dispentryporter8621]

@@StilvurBee If you just disguise as Scout every time you won't get movement speed penalities ever. Robots don't care.

[@adriankorozan8334]

thamks to you i started playing mvm and love it

[@ChesterManfred]

7:07 The Devil waiting for me to sign the gas passer contract for my soul:

[@beanz6970]

12:24 I'm gonna use that phrase everytime my teammates are hugging the dispenser

[@ricksmith1975]

15:56 Spy has more than one use: He can help tape enemy engi bot buildings, and steal stray Uber medics and make them pop Uber on him instead of a real bot

[@YukiTehSuccubus]

I usually play Engie for MvM, so I was able to guess what his best upgrade was. My main reason is because it helps the dispenser stay alive longer due to not being hit by splash damage or stray bullets due to the team standing basically directly on top of it.

[@kira5043]

honestly, with how much extra damage the mercs can do on their own i think medic's shield is better the canteen sharing. yes there are also resistence upgrade but the shield gives so much leeway for the team to push forward or pull back in a time of need, with the shield you can cover the whole team and (as long as they stay behind it) gives the ability to deal out loads of damage without fear of really anything, it also allows medic to rush forward to revive a team mate that over extended without putting much risk on the medic himself

[@Creepyquiller]

Y'know, it always delights me whenever you upload! Hope you have a good day, mate.

[@Puki5567]

Thats a nice question to have answered honestly.

[@darloufledestrucucteur346]

Man i would like a vid about underrated/underused loadouts and weapons, i think it would be great to try and shake up the meta a little and make the game more varied and fun.

[@myorangesarenice1122]

The mob smash music is actually perfect for MvM (FORWARD AERIAL)

[@edgyiel5535]

14:00- I didn't knew about that before, does the target also needs to take damage in order to the shield projectile charge faster ? Also I think I haven't told this before on your videos when it comes to Medic on MVM, but if you keep pressing the attack button rapidly on the revive device, you revive your teammate faster than just one click on the device and wait, it goes more faster with uber effect, but it's better when they died too many times. However, there's one thing that I don't know, does it refill the projectile shield faster or does it goes in the same recharge speed ?

[@GimX3]

wait- so for heavies attack speed upgrades, only the second tick dosnt work so its like 3 ticks instead of 4 or is it only the first tick?

[@aurydragon]

12:19 "All of your teammates just end up gang banging the fridge" Okay I laughed at this way more than I should have

[@roblox70451]

7:44 spy also gets crits on kill

[@shadowldrago]

I love Weezy’s soundtrack choices.

[@Davtwan]

I don’t recommend making a drinking game where you take a shot every time Weezy says “upgrade.” I can no longer see in color.

[@Oppsallspies]

What if there was an upgrade that did the following? +allows you to have another upgradeable sentry +is effected by building upgrades (Building health and sentry firing speed) -costs 1500 credits to purchase -upgrade replaces disposable sentry upgrade -cost of 2nd sentry is 150 metal -takes 250 metal to upgrade -is not effected by upgrade canteens (I.e no invincibility from Uber canteens, not doubled firing speed from crit canteens, is not upgraded by upgrade canteens)

[@lootrat4556]

Hey I was playing some mvm and I saw that the crit canteen doubles sentry firing speed when used by engine does it work or is it bugged like the 3rd tick of sentry firing speed

[@nuwub]

At least he didn’t show the medic getting caught on the box, good shit.

[@boatdoggo7680]

which mann up ticket is the best buy ? the stock one or the one that grants extra loot ?

[@lowqualityboss]

"Crits on kill is demoknight's signature perk, only he has it." Spy:

[@cheezkid2689]

Spy actually does have access to crits on kill. There's... not really much reason to use it when the Diamondback does the exact same thing but kinda better, but it's definitely an upgrade that does indeed exist.

[@ricksmith1975]

14;01: Medic canteen depends on medi gun. Stock = Crit canteens. Kritzkrieg = Uber canteen.

[@Paulunatr]

I'm definitely in the Projectile Shield camp for Medic's best MvM upgrade. Canteen Specialist is an absolute beast of an upgrade that I love as well, but Projectile Shield is my literal first Wave 1 buy of nearly every mission, which speaks for itself.

[@blkguy3rd]

good choice in song for pyro i got the reference

[@Contacomanosanos]

Weezy would you like to do a normal gameplay of MVM and maybe some challenges that we could give you? I honestly think that would be pretty good to watch, but if you say no, that means no, also that is just MY fav type of video. Love your videos, i learned a shiton of things about mvm that i never knew about ❤

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

Hold on, so does the projectile shield get charged by the healing done or the target damage done?

[@ButtAflyLP]

For scout, imo, the best upgrade has to firing speed on the soda popper specifically. If you want to be more general, its gonna be penetration. Even for less experienced, non damage based scouts, just straight up doubling your damage is crazy

[@drchester2178]

I’ve never watched a video so close to when it was uploaded

[@daxain7368]

7:44 you’re wrong there, spy has crits on kill as well

[@ramirezthesilvite]

I would love to find a way for spy to be more viable in mvm, but every time I suggest something, someone has an issue with it. Like giving him cash pickup or overheal like scout. Though having tried spy in mvm, I think what he needs is less aggro. Spy gets more attention from bots than the sniper. Makes it really hard to get anything done.

[@dispentryporter8621]

Spy pulling aggro is actually one of his biggest strenghts due to how it helps his team by drawing fire away from them. If you're good at Spy like I am, you just learn to play around it.

[@ramirezthesilvite]

@@dispentryporter8621 I guess lol

[@Shrubland]

Gas passer is the most cultured and uncontroversial item pick, well done sir.

[@samoaspider]

Can't wait until an actual good mvm upgrading video gets uploaded.

[@ieatfeet1737]

I would love to see an upgrade tearlist

[@amircool2529]

*As a spy main especially in MVM, i'd argue with you, i always go for the sapper's upgrade first, then armor penetration !! You shouldnalways use the sapper on medics and giants !!*

[@youraveragefloridaboy519]

Just sat down with lunch! Perfect timing

[@idkgaminglol818]

It's a good day when WeezyTF2 posts a video.

[@MisterCake]

If you have Dosh to spare as Soldier You can: >quick Switch to Demo knight with Half-Zatoichi >Upgrade Half-zatoichi with +Damage / Crit kill >Switch back to Soldier with Half-zatoichi, as upgrades from Demo + Soldier melee Transfers > Soldier

[@arcitatious]

Asteroid coaster act one my beloved