NO BATTERY RED DOT: Holosun's Solar-Powered SCRS

[@THPOOKY]

What I like most about tfbtv's shot show 2023 interviews with Louis from Holosun, is how knowledgeable Louis is. He KNOWS his products inside and out, front to back. I love how Holosun didn't hire "eye candy" to debut their new products, they sent the subject matter expert. Bravo Holosun.

[@jessenewman2181]

Get out of here. Louis is the definition of eye candy.

[@THPOOKY]

@@jessenewman2181 I completely agree, but he's more than just a piece of meat.

[@THPOOKY]

@Christian Constitutionalist honestly, I can't stand it. I hate when someone is given the chance to showcase a product, and they know barely anything about it. I feel like it's an enormous waste of my time.

[@theiviachine]

He’s a good looking man

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

You know we can have both right? Louis is the definition of both. He's the complete package!

[@cerebralfirearms]

These guys are just doing the gun community a huge favor in revolutionizing optics and driving competition in the market. The prices are beyond fair, the quality is immaculate, and it’s just a solid system. I’m all in.

[@wheezzl]

I own 8 of them at this point. I'm still waiting for their SRO equivalent though... something simliar in lense size (or like the Romeo Max)

[@jasonhartman9513]

but...but...China. I have a ton too and love them all. I did have a battery tray screw fall out of my 407k but Holosun replaced it at no charge. No other issues.

[@BaerRennen]

@@wheezzl You mean like the 507 Competition that they just debuted? Huge window and RMR footprint.

[@wheezzl]

@@BaerRennen whaaat?! I missed that! How did I miss that

[@rocket5557]

Holosun is absolutely killing it.

[@thegreenman2030]

Holosun shows up to Shot Show every year well prepared with a mess of new stuff. It's good to see so many well priced options on the market.

[@carbonking53]

Then it takes them 12-24 months to actually ship the new product or to get any meaningful inventory into the market. Surefire does the same thing.

[@pdxmarine1430]

@@carbonking53 Yeah, their launch dates are usually met, but with just a small amount of their products actually hitting shelves and instantly selling out, with it not being widely available until quite a bit later than advertised, but that's a fairly minor complaint compared to what other companies do

[@Jesses001]

So well under $500 and I get a magic sight that always works and is always the right brightness, lasts for years and years if it is in a cave, but if even a flashlight is near by, it lasts even longer...defiantly magic.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

All the people excised about this who didn’t buy RX-30s that have been out for the past 15 years are hypocrites.

[@Jesses001]

@@rifleshooterchannel208 I forgot that existed till you mentioned it. It is twice as expensive, and the red dot is too large for my taste at over 6moa. Still, if you want a larger dot and profile, that might be a good alternative.

[@farmersneed]

@@rifleshooterchannel208 Those got discontinued a few years ago. I looked everywhere and couldn't get one, but I have tried em before. They're great, but the second you turn on a flashlight that optic is useless.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

@@farmersneed Any auto adjust dot becomes useless once you start using a weapon-light. Auto adjust is a gimmick.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

@@Jesses001 How is it twice as expensive? Is this Holosun $220 or something? Not to mention they made several dot sizes and colors, not all of them were 6 MOA

[@luciankristov6436]

I several holosun optics and they've all been excellent! Trijicon , aimpoint , eotech all make optics for uncle sugar dollars. All federal and state budgets so they know they can charge whatever they want. Holosun is the optics company for the everyday Americans who want quality for a ethical price.

[@19Clutch69]

They're the chinese military contractor

[@chad9166]

@@19Clutch69 Source

[@CharlieMikeNS]

"ethical" price. Now that's hilarious. I have 3 Aimpoints and 5 Holosuns. Holosun is great for the money, but they're not as good as Aimpoint. Aimpoint is clearer, crisper, more durable, with a better real-world battery life. QC is much higher. Aimpoints are a buy-it-for-life optic.

[@HugeCockAndBalls]

@@CharlieMikeNS aimpoints have a worse reticle for astigmatism (worse reticle in general) WAY worse parallax and worse battery life.

[@CharlieMikeNS]

@@HugeCockAndBalls You're wrong on every single count. My holosun dots are less crisp, the glass is less clear. Old Aimpoint T1's have pretty bad parallax, and a smeared dot, but the T2 is one of the best red dots for parallax and dot crispness. Speaking from personal experience, my Aimpoint T2 lasts longer than my Holosun 403r at the same brightness level. The main reason most Holosuns last so long is because they have auto shutoff, which I don't really want.

[@jjw6961]

Holosun out here just slaying the optics game as of late. Recently got my hands on an EPS carry and I love it, but now I'm trying to find an excuse to pick up one of these and put it on something else.

[@pdxmarine1430]

I love my EPS carry. Fits my 365 as well as the 507k, but doesn't end up full of lint that has to be cleaned out constantly. It's gonna be what I run until they make an enclosed SCS model that uses the RMSc footprint

[@Rolley189]

Even if this under delivers the tech is something to be excited for. Kinda reminds me of the calculators I used in HS. As long as they had light they would stay on.

[@ventroid4473]

I was also thinking of those solar powered calculators when he mentioned the sight could charge under artificial light lmao

[@mytmousemalibu]

Think I have about 10 Holosun products at this point. They have all been stellar!

[@C.Double.]

Its funny seeing so many people complain about not being able to service or replace a battery. ITS NOT a battery, its a power cell, how many of you even know what that is, let alone how to repair one?? People just love to complain... even when they are talking out of their ass and have no clue what they are actually complaining about.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

its not a power cell, and a power cell is LITERALLY a battery. Its a supercapacitor, and is technically serviceable wit ha steady hand an a soldering iron, but its not something they should worry about. anyways im just on your ass for calling it a power cell, thats marketing BS at best, misleading at the worst

[@C.Double.]

@@marcusborderlands6177 Its actually not just a "supercapacitor", its multiple capacitors and an inlaid battery bank in micro scale... hence a "micro power cell" LMFAO Its literally what it is...

[@happyhaunter_5546]

I love my Holosuns, but we'll have to let time tell us how these "non-end user serviceable" batteries do.

[@enb3810]

Yeah, I'm getting pretty tired of everything being non user serviceable. Computers, cars, tractors, etc

[@monarchco]

These don't use batteries. At all.

[@lucastonoli3256]

@@monarchco There is no fucking way on earth or this reality that it works without anything storing energy inside (like a battery or capacitor, more than likely, a battery).

[@C.Double.]

@@lucastonoli3256 There is a difference between a battery and a power cell.

[@C.Double.]

Please explai to me how you would service a micro power cell???

[@pjkf01]

Surprised they didn't talk much about the form factor. Looks to be even more compact than a T2. Also, the mounting system looks to be a 509t pattern?

[@WhiteDragonSecurity]

Another interview with a Holosun guy said that it DOES indeed use the 509 footprint.

[@Minutes-Mils]

@@WhiteDragonSecurity mount it to a pistol? 🤨

[@WhiteDragonSecurity]

@@Minutes-Mils Will be AWESOME if it can be!

[@markiplierSINGSbadly]

@@WhiteDragonSecurity is 509 basically rmr? I can never keep it straight

[@CallsignWulf]

@@markiplierSINGSbadly The 509 comes with an RMR adapter plate itself. But the 509 footprint is like the Acro and other enclosed optics before the EPS. It's a cross slot proprietary mount. If you got this you would need to buy the 509T adapter plate separately.

[@BigDaddyGAO]

Holosun always leading the innovation.

[@royenhelma8692]

Love my scs mos ,but would like to hear about the competition dot also keep up the good work tfb and holosun

[@Auldus]

This SCS system has literally made me a Holosun fan. I now will be shopping holosun when brainstorming a build.

[@boss350z5]

Can we just go ahead and say it... Holosun officially is the best all around (price, variety, dependability and performance) optics manufacturer... period.

[@lancebane3088]

Absolutely LOVE Holosun from the start buuut... hope the price IS $300ish OR less because they've been getting up there lately!

[@michaelfrinks4094]

I love how when he talks about the auto brightness in the sight, the auto brightness of their camera starts flickering

[@enb3810]

Stroke mode engaged

[@redeye8526]

Holosun needs to make an LPVO !

[@DarkWolff.]

Overall an interesting unit. The non serviceability is kinda off putting, who knows maybe it'll last the distance. Do like my hs515cm and my 407s

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

Throwaway optic for sure. Who is to say Holosun will even be around when this thing finally burns out? But I guess fools have to spend money too 😂

[@buddermonger2000]

Tbh I can understand that, but this is supposed to be 20k hours on a full charge... which is to say you're exclusively in the dark, night fighting, for 2 and a half years straight. This thing will functionally last forever. You're not going to need to mess with the battery.

[@MegaAndy93]

This with the ACSS reticle would be fucking amazing.

[@vuboy122288]

Zomg yes. Put a magnifier behind that and we are SET!

[@SlimRhyno]

Holosun just gets it. They don't do many things, but they absolutely crush it in their own arena(s). It's like 5 Guys, but for tasty optics instead. 😁

[@douglascuvillyed.s8211]

I have several of the solar holosun options that I love but I like the idea of a capacitor that can use sunlight. I can't let go of the idea of self reliance. I want to be able change the battery myself. Don't like the idea of a unit I can't service myself

[@ericbergfield6451]

I'm sure if you try it out, & get out of your comfort zone, you'll realize it only takes a few range days a year to keep the capacitor charged. I'm totally fine with this design, I own two enclosed-emitter Holosun's with solar panels on them, & I have no clue how they're holding up yet after almost a year & a half; but they still have power.

[@C.Double.]

Everyone saying they want to service it themselves... do you even know how to service a micro power cell if something went wrong.??

[@douglascuvillyed.s8211]

@Cory no but I can change a battery lol. Solar goes down you always have the battery. I don't want to have to send a unit in if it's on a gun that I need ready to go at all tines. Just my preference

[@EmperorReinhard]

Supercapacitors are incredibly resilient and will outlast the other components on the optic.

[@douglascuvillyed.s8211]

@Dred I agree. I still find the option of having a battery I can easily change myself more attractive than having to send in the entire unit.

[@M9A1MAN]

I have this redot on my 11.5" Aero and so far it's been solid. No complaints so far. Also, sad no short shorts on James. Fuck the weather

[@jacksin3323]

This is actually HUGE. Any sighting sys that can last thru apoc is key. I thought prisms were the future but this may be. Imagine an etched reticle like this... whoa.

[@ElevenEightNate]

It's actually pretty small.

[@deangullberry5148]

It's only 20mm, so no reason it can't be co-mounted.

[@tylerrodriguez9233]

I’ll be impressed when it’s actually in stock somewhere. I’ve been on a wait list for about 4 months for the EPS which is supposedly already “out”. Haven’t seen a sign of them anywhere other than the ones that got sent to KZbinrs

[@chrisusher1356]

Hit. The. Nail. On. The. Head. Same here, waiting on a EPS Carry for a P365 that's been naked for far too long.

[@calebnation6155]

I literally have an EPS arriving tomorrow or Saturday that was ordered earlier this week.

[@tylerrodriguez9233]

@@calebnation6155 are you blowing the guy from this video or what? Every single retailer has them “Out of stock - no backorder- no ETA”. Especially the green multi reticle one that I’m waiting on

[@dfghjkl501]

@@tylerrodriguez9233 I found one and ordered last Friday, no blowing required 🤷‍♂️

[@calebnation6155]

@@tylerrodriguez9233 I saw 4 separate retailers that had a basic red or green dot (I don’t want the multi reticle) in stock and went with the cheapest

[@SilentReaper89]

I need 2. Holosun is definitely killing why doesn’t other brands have these features. It’s 2023 and it’s still some red dots don’t have auto off/shake awake

[@ZPOLLAK]

This does not appear to have shake awake / auto off. I

[@mengx94]

Holosun is going green, reeee liberal agenda

[@MrHARDtaHANDLE1]

this sight sounds more and more like it would be more at home on an imperial guardsman's lasrifle than my pos home defense ar.....ill be getting one of these

[@phantomthiefirwin9631]

And this ladies and gents is why Holosun is the best in the game genuine innovation at an actually affordable price point. Kudos.

[@JeWCyDuDe]

I love holosun. I love the green dot and their devices. Cant beat them for the money!!!

[@scott2228]

I have 3 Holosun optics. I’m sure I’ll end up with several more over the years. With constant innovation, hopefully the American companies will get a clue.

[@nickbono8]

Holosun is American, they just make their optics in China and that’s how they keep their prices so low. That’s how they are able to do all this new stuff and be innovative and not have to charge an arm and a leg. As a consumer, do you want American made and pay premium, or do you want foreign made and pay for innovation?

[@xnopyt13]

I hope it’s as good as they say it is, from what I’ve heard their previous solar models were barely bright enough.

[@Backon4]

Very disappointed that there’s no low mount option. I got one for my mp5 but there’s no cheek weld that puts this in my vision

[@mattbiek]

SCS everything!!!!

[@Scott.E.H]

This is actually very neat stuff. Using the light to keep the optic on without taking battery feels like fiber optic without fiber optic.

[@bev8200]

give us a no battery 1x prism

[@oskar6661]

Or better, a 1.5-2x prism. I adored the small ACOGs our agency used to run, but I'm not paying $900-1100 for a Trijicon. I found the lower magnification gave just the right edge to shooting at distance, while being usable up close when needed. They also had superb eye-box distance.

[@PigPharmaceuticals]

Primary arms 🤷‍♂️

[@Specter044]

@@oskar6661 Check out Primary Arms

[@RoccoSucato]

After 3 months of delivery delays, I canceled optics planet order. I don’t think these are actually in the wild but really looking forward to running them.

[@angeltrujillo5351]

Dude the for the price!! Thats an awesome optic. Excited!

[@roba4176]

I am sure its been talked about already. but just seen this popup. Video is ok. You left out weight, and did not show reticles or led colors. or any testing. Did the unit in his hand actually work or the one on the gun. Also is it proprietary mounts only or more support expected?

[@narutobroken]

They really need to provide a sound isolated booth for these outdoor interviews. Can’t hear what anyone is saying over the shots in the background.

[@makky-kat3719]

See the actual "preparing for the apocalypse and collapse of civilization" question is how well it works once the internal battery has exceeded its service life. Considering my IPhone SE battery was still technically functional 6 years later with daily use, I doubt this will be a problem for most people. Very cool having a forward-facing sensor to control brightness though, which I think might be a bigger deal innovation-wise than combining a solar cell and a li-ion battery.

[@buddermonger2000]

Basically never will. Because it'll never not be charged

[@wokndedfan413]

I can not believe how far Holosun has come. I see this optic on Amazon for $299, and I’m jumping on one for my CMMG MK9. This can be better if they had it use the EPS Carry battery though, but it’s not a deal breaker.

[@stanthebamafan]

Hopefully the PDP one hits the market soon

[@aidenlee364]

WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THIS IS RUNNING AT 509t FOOTPRINT?! THIS 👏 CAN 👏 GO 👏 ON 👏 A 👏 FREAKIN’ 👏 HANDGUN! Am I the only one who sees this as enclosed emitter SRO?!

[@pdxmarine1430]

I actually had that exact thought when I saw it.

[@007josiah]

Why would you put a giant thing like that on a handgun when holoson already makes the eps

[@pdxmarine1430]

@@007josiah bigger window, and less parallax. But they've got the 507 competition with its huge window and it turns out the SCRS isn't built to handle riding a pistol slide so it wouldn't be a good idea to mount it on one

[@tjblackbauer9997]

Love mine. Keep em coming Holosun!!!!

[@DadHominem]

I can't wait for their wind-powered model...

[@blurryface1975]

is there a low mount for this to mount to a pic rail so i can mount it to my hunting revolver?

[@LittlyLary]

Is a video on the 507 COMP coming?

[@type_s_tyler7547]

Yep, this is the year I'm gonna get a holosun. Between this and the night vision red dot, I'm gonna be a customer

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Very much in for this. Will make a better fit on my PCCs than the current 509T.

[@grahamhawes7089]

Sounds like cool tech. A plugless charger for the capacitor would be cool, like an Apple Watch. I’m curious to see how well the auto brightness works.

[@jdchapp11]

Excellent. For sure purchasing one

[@adyingbreedofman9112]

Im close to driving to the local shop and buying one. Been trying to figure this whole market mess of optics out and bang for buck plus solar and battery life, i dont see how you could go wrong.

[@Rhacodactyl]

I was totally sold on this at last year's Shot Show when they showed the SCS on an HK VP9. I'm not sure why they promoted that model since it never became available, but it seems like a bad sign that they're making these for rifles now without also expanding the line for increased handgun compatibility.

[@bronzeguy9839]

“So let’s talk about the optic.” “Sure! So this optic *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG* *BANG*

[@HookLine48]

Why would they not make this T1/T2 compatible?

[@Quality_Guru]

Very impressive interview by James and Luis. Appears to be a superb value product considering the feature set and price. Holosun knocked this one out of the park and into the next block.

[@mananaVesta]

I'm going to buy that - will be my fifth holosun.

[@IntenseSpirit]

Anything new from Trijicon?

[@danielbenington4814]

My question is how long till the battery kicks the bucket and bleeds everywhere inside the optic?

[@theiviachine]

Holosun. Has the most innovative pistol optics and micro reddots on the market.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

you could use vibration harvesting to power it if its consumption is low enough.

[@starwarsheros9245]

Would this be rated for shotgun?

[@bernardhayes4459]

Facinating technology a real advancement

[@tritech]

Neat idea, but I'm out with no user replaceable batteries. Edit: you also didn't state what reticule... is it dot only or their donut+dot?

[@marcusborderlands6177]

its not a battery, its a supercapacitor, so even if it was user serviceable, its not like you could buy another one to swap in easily

[@buddermonger2000]

Yeah to compare to something else, it's like those twin power scientific calculators you buy for $10 at staples in a bin but for a red dot. You'll just never need it outside of outside force breaking the optic. At which point it'll need to be replaced or serviced with the company regardless.

[@blakehowland7468]

entire sporting rifles market to look at but currently only way to mimic 1" low ring scope height and eye alignment is with a 407c/507c with rail mount on low weaver/pic typical 1-3 slot or rails bases that come on rifles, I have 3 set up this way, would love to move to the solar charging capacitor enclosed set up but looking at measurements this scrs would require custom low profile bases that will directly screw down to the receivers of sporting rifles/leverguns in order to keep cheek/eye alignments proper...so build the 407c/507c with this tech and enclose them and I'll stop bitching on KZbin about them and keep pimping holosun options on the hunting forums for all of us loving this tech and missing the iron sights options but also aging eyes and other benefits make these battery free red dots awesome for sporting applications, keep em coming holosun, this tech will hopefully end up in scope reticles at some point, love my trijicon accupoints on my scoped sporting rifles but this tech would be smaller and lighter yet to illuminate that center dot, the future is bright, now need custom bases for sporting rifles, who's gonna jump in that game so we can use scrs? ;)

[@craigjohnson775]

I'm watching this video and spilt my God damn beer all over my subway sandwich, Fack!! But love the content, totally worth it for you James :)

[@letsgobrandon416]

I know that functionally those "anvil" style mounts are perfectly robust enough for the job, but my brain keeps telling me that if you flick it, it should vibrate like a spring door stop.

[@jessyfavor9593]

When's it available

[@HookLine48]

Is this T1 T2 mount compatible?

[@stevem4783]

This is awesome and I'm definitely getting one

[@magickaldood]

Maybe it's my hearing loss but I can't understand half of what is being said due to the gunfire in the background.

[@aarona8203]

Ok I need this thing..take my money now!!!

[@joeb6986]

Much green, very environment.

[@adamg574]

Maybe I missed it, but is it just a dot or does it come with the circle dot reticle?

[@EchoRecon1]

Will it have shake awake?

[@frankhujsa821]

What mounting pattern is this?

[@KevinNiven]

If I was the other red dot company, I would be worried!

[@johnstupid327]

What jacket is James wearing? Looks nice

[@bizkit2147]

I remember another of ppl hated holoson for some reasons🤔. I never had a problem with any of mine

[@509Gman]

“Made in China”

[@Jack-xy5xq]

They seem to be cutting edge innovation and I wonder why Aim point is lagging a bit on the technology side.

[@jamesphillips9272]

Etched reticle?

[@aresg9670]

Everyone in the comments is worried about being unable to service a 40,000 hr rated super capacitor on a gun they shoot once a year 🙄

[@herbderbler1585]

Is it a battery or a capacitor? I keep hearing both.

[@Robert-cd5zr]

Needs the ACSS reticle

[@-joe-davidson]

Where is it made?

[@HookLine48]

What’s the release date?

[@BornYooper]

This looks like a solution in search of a problem given how long batteries last in these things now.

[@markgreen1782]

@TFBTV SHOW TIME. ARE THEY MAKING NEW LASERS? LIKE LE420? Hope so.

[@karlbach1451]

I like watching aimpoint eotech and trijicon sweat everytime James interviews a holosun rep

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Great idea! Why is the height over bore a country mile?

[@skepticalhippo6376]

More comfortable “heads up”shooting position. It’s all the rage.

[@chazdoomy1512]

I really like the form factor it wound be cool on a pistol.

[@johnhancock2667]

I think they need to make one that charges off solar and motion. They make rechargeable coin batteries the same size as a 2032.

[@majik16106]

I have mixed feelings about this specific optic. Love holosun but honestly I think I'd rather just swap a battery every yr like I do now. But I swear if they ever decided to make an lpvo... It would be over. Can't wait to see the thermal optic in person

[@buddermonger2000]

I think here's something to think about: the only way to have to even need to think about charging it is in the incredibly impractical situation where you're in a dark cave having it constantly on for 2 and a half years. For all practical purposes, you'll never have to charge it. Even having it in a room while it's off just having it around will charge the optic.

[@007josiah]

What mount is that in the thumbnail?

[@MrHARDtaHANDLE1]

I wonder what the NV performance is like or if there is any

[@buddermonger2000]

Probably the same as any other red dot

[@Khloud1349]

Wish you'd guys learn to increase the audio before uploading the video. Audio is always super quiet.

[@2010GT500]

How’s the parallax shift?

[@richykong2930]

Nice price range need to test it

[@mobilegamersunite]

Sounds good