Yu-Gi-Oh! - Vehicroid Archetype

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[@Gg66dolphin]

You can't give Syrus too much grief for combining roids and Cyberdark/Dragons when you have Chazz mashing THREE archetypes together in some Frankenstein monster of a deck

[@GreenDinoRanger]

In Chazz's defence, he had anime-exclusive cards that made the Ojamas work well with his V-Z machines. Syrus had nothing that made his deck synergise with other archetypes or really anything effective against an opponent that didn't just rely on a single boss monster.

[@VampirePrinceKRS]

exactly. the Archetype's Syrus put together are all Machines. so even if he needs some random Dragon cards thrown in to just get the Cyberdark archetype to be it's very best the rest of his cards basically just need Machine support & can easily go together.

[@TheWizardMus]

Yeah but he's The Chazz

[@CyborgCharlotte]

@@TheWizardMusChazz The Chadd :P

[@deuntaethomas7437]

I mean that's really any duelist

[@dudebladeX]

Unlike archetypes like Crystal Beast or Cyberdark, which modern support made go from OK to can lock the opponent if played right, Vehicroids would need a complete overhaul to make viable. Nothing about them synergies with the end strategy, and the lack of searchers and viable boss monsters. They didn't get an E - Emergency Call to let them get their monsters to their hand. They didn't get a Cyber Repair Plant to recycle their stuff. They just kinda tripped and kept tripping. I get that it's based off the Little Engine that Could, but in this case, it's not a steep mountain that Vehicroids are trying to surmount, it's a vertical wall.

[@ViperRaiyu]

They need the Gaia treatment. Make an entirely new core of cards to make it playable. The old Gaia support that was tied down to BLS was unplayable, but the new Magical Knight stuff makes it pretty okay. Vehicroids need a hard reboot like that.

[@EvErLoyaLEagLE]

more like trying to climb the inside of a giant stone wheel

[@r3zaful]

​@@ViperRaiyui saw an article about vehicroid in japanese, it use vernalizers engine and expressroid recovery as ammo.

[@WilliamHasMelted]

I see Kiteroid so often in Duel Links that I'm SHOCKED to see its not been printed in real life

[@Ramsey276one]

O M G

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

Lol one of the best Roid monster there is! I wish it was real though. Hopefully they can print it as a Speed Duel card

[@FSKyurem]

I often joke about Kiteroid when I’m playing Master Duel because of its exclusiveness to Duel Links

[@deuntaethomas7437]

I am just as shocked

[@thedarkspirit5084]

To think that Kiteroid is still relevant to today's Duel Link Meta Decks because of Link Monsters and stopping their attacks. Because I use Sphere Kuriboh protection and battle position change. But does nothing against Link Monster attacks.

[@DamianQualshy]

One of the best parts of this video was that one message from twitch chat "This deck has potential I swear"

[@MarioMastar]

SOMEONE will pull off that Flying elephant win in a legit duel.... SOMEONE will. XD

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

This gives me an idea… You know how a lot of Superheroes have their own iconic vehicles (The Batmobile, the Invisible Jet, The Spider Buggy, etc…) I was thinking that HERO monsters can have their own “HERO-Mobile” Roid monsters that would serve as their own vehicles of choice. Especially since their users were besties in the GX anime.

[@Ramsey276one]

Burst Bike! Bubble Boat! Spark Scooter! Wild Wheelboard!!!

[@Ramsey276one]

Make it Rider Fusion! 1 on your field and 1 in your Hand!

[@FlushedTTV]

Well, I create custom cards for fun. Let's see how this turns out

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

@@FlushedTTV Well let’s start with mashing together existing monsters… Maybe Avian gets his own Jetroid? And it has effects that mash together, like Jetroids own + “Feather Shot”?

[@luckypikachu4892]

​@@Ramsey276one Avian Airplane

[@thepanelbiter9915]

I love this archetype aesthetically. It reminds me of Pixar’s Cars or just toy cars from my childhood. I wish they got a serious update.

[@RFDN0]

The newest fusion monster is a reference to power rangers.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@RFDN0 And Stealth Union is GaoGaiGar.

[@brandonscott5544]

PIXAR CARS COMPARISON.

[@JEZ346]

It reminds me more of the Astro mega ship from Power Rangers in space

[@dom8429]

serious question: can they update yugioh cards? I feel like once printed you can't add 'counts as vehicroid' to new prints because what if I still have an old one where this is not stated?

[@marsella527]

Honestly, hearing Zane laugh in the background is legit one of the funniest GX things I've heard (minus Zaloog Walken)

[@jakew6162]

Zane knows Cyrus deck is lame😂

[@PairOfHands3301]

I love that they looked at Vehicroids, gave them UFOroid which is a machine searching version of Giant Rat and co. And their reaction was "this will be game breaking. Make it a level 6 1200/1200 monster stat!"

[@bibigamer502]

The 1200/1200 kinda makes sense but why level 6?

[@genesisera8364]

@@bibigamer502 whom the fucketh knows? In the anime they had Syrus tribute Drillroid to summon it and then Syrus immediately goes into Power Bond to fuse UFOroid and Tempest into UFORoid Fighter so the battle destruction/floating effect literally never came up. [Even tho Power Bond also fusion summons with materials from the hand, so I assume it's for the viewers' benefit to see UFOroid hit the field at least once before it gets used as material so they know what it looks like]

[@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740]

16:53 "This is one of the best vehicroid monsters because you can use it in a better deck" is such a damning assessment of the vehicroid deck

[@MarioMastar]

That's like why many archetypes were doomed. Ironic how a LOT of cards like Jet Synchron which were designed to fix a problem in THEIR archetype ended up being absolutely broken when used in more powerful decks. and they can't ban the money maker, power creep decks that everyone brings to tournaments, so they ban Jet Synchron. or Ancient Fairy Dragon because of a loop with a particular field spell that isn't possible in Duel Links cause she's not only at 3, she's technically at 6 thanks to ancient Pixie dragon being in the game too. Firewall dragon was preemptively limited but I don't think his loop works either.

[@beastwarsFTW]

A lot of vehicroids are like that. UFOroid and UFOroid Fighter work well with Gate Guardian Truckroid and Submarineroid are good in an Ogama deck. And the stronger fusions see play in Cyber Dragon decks.

[@FruityGroovy]

Should point out that Super Vehicroid - Stealth Union is actually a reference to one of most popular mechs in the Brave series, GaoGaiGar. All of its fusion materials is a reference to the different machines that make up GaoGaiGar, except for Truckroid, who takes the place of Galeon/GaiGar.

[@genesisera8364]

They really made a GaoGaiGar reference and then make it suck, huh.

[@SenseiRaisen]

@@genesisera8364 sadly.

[@SenseiRaisen]

Also the new one looks a reference to Metroplex from Transformers.

[@squeaksqueakimaknight]

If Konami simply just did a mass naming overhaul and made the names of all the cards in the archetype into "Vehicroid" cards, it would easily fix a chunk of the archetype's issues

[@laszlokaszas1003]

But it's funny that Dark Jeroid also part of it

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

I mean If they made summoned skull and og gazelle part of archetypes by including "this card is also always treated as an x archetype card" , it can work with these too and, it could indeed fix a lot But if they need a gameplan, or a way to get salvation, they need *really good support* repaired genex controller style, you know? Either than or a structure deck R

[@MarioMastar]

THey did fix Frog the Jam after all this time by renaming it Slime Toad to FINALLY be able to remove the "Except Frog the Jam" line from every frog card. Though I guess now it's a "Toad" card but I don't think it had issues with Toads (even though the monster is not a Toad either, it's explicitly named that according to the flavor text). Plus something similar happened in the German (or Korean?) version where one card due to a language specific grammatical change caused the card to have a far more powerful effect than any other language, so people would literally import that version of the card in thier deck with a note translating what it did so they could play the superior version until they fixed it with a reprint.

[@dragonmaster613]

Fusions that have specific materials may have been unplayable, but they made more sense than the non-specific summoning. Just look at Jumbo Drill, he actually looks like a combination of the three.

[@theorycrafters7281]

They only did it to make the game faster

[@dragonmaster613]

@@theorycrafters7281 I understand that, but I'm just referring to everything else about it. Nitpicking for sure

[@theorycrafters7281]

Oh I feel ya

[@TheGloryXros]

FACTS. I think a good middle-ground approach to this would be to still have generic Fusion Summons, but have an extra effect that can only be used if you CORRECTLY Fused for the Monster using its actual materials.

[@kr555wizard]

@@TheGloryXrosyeah like red eyes dragoon is kinda like this, you can fuse it with incorrect materials but its way stronger if you use the right materials

[@cbdrawer9527]

I always find it nice that despite the roids not being so good, they had one of the most busted archetypal skill in Duel Links, letting you search out any roid that's listed on a Fusion material. Gives you nearly every monster in the deck you needed.

[@bluegetsuga8396]

Challenge accepted. I'll make the best Vehicroid support the world has ever seen. Also, why is Mixeroid a wind monster? Why Konami, why?!

[@AJ_Steele]

Another way to fix the archetype is to just change the “roid” portion of their names to all capital letters like they did with the HERO archetype

[@Kupomasters57]

Yeah once you play syrus archetype. You QUICKLY understand WHY the writers of GX gave syrus zanes archtypes.

[@soukenmarufwt5224]

Also degraded Zanes character all together. Trying to claim Syrus surpassed Zane despite nothing of the sort happened

[@MarioMastar]

@@soukenmarufwt5224 Really is a shame. I saw no reason for Zane to go from a competent and respectful top duelist trying to help his horribly insecure brother get better through hints of tough love to a nearly broken man who needed power at all costs cause some prick named Aster Phoenix beat him and mobsters broke a deal with him. Syrus didn't even have any likeable qualities that made us WANT to see him surpass Zane or grow as a character. He always struck me as comic relief to the end because unlike Joey who really made it his mission to get better at duel monsters, Syrus never seemed like he wanted to get better by actually learning the game and studying his duels, heck he only got promoted to Ra Yellow because of a gambit from Crowler that had nothing to do with him and only served to push his rivalry with Hassleberry. I get the whole "Always in the shadow of my brother" but again....Syrus made NO effort to actaully GET better.... like maybe do some practice duels and really study when to best use Powerbond instead fo keeping it in his back pocket for a year and just HOPING the one time he plays it is good enough to impress Zane. NOT how you get good at a strategy game.... Hehe still love the character though XD He's pathetic to a fault, but he's ... well... he's Zane's little brother!

[@TrevorAllenMD]

Convinced Konami just hates “best friend” characters with what they did to -Roids & Red-Eyes. It’s sad how bad they’ve made them. Least they could have done is try to allow some synergy between -Roids and Speedroids but Cy really not allowed to have nice things.

[@nuttybuddy7928]

Counter point: Blackwings and Salamangreats belong to “best friend” characters

[@r3zaful]

Last time they release good card for "Best friend" it ended with eldlitch summon dragun set 3 floodgate pass. If you make a singular good card for unsalvageable archetypes it will end up abused in other deck.

[@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu]

​@@nuttybuddy7928technically Yusaku's bestie is Kusanagi

[@ianbraun271]

@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Yup, and he got a weak Codebreaker deck. But at least he served some great tacos.

[@Spanluver]

You are just salty that a) you didn’t get to see yugi clap joey and then donate his REBD back to him You know this to be true b) Joey lost when feeling the flame of Egyptian god in the shadow realm. He should have never been standing. That’s like saying Joey is better than a god Hahahahaha

[@dee2273]

The slow decent into madness that was displayed as you sacrificed your soul to play vehicle-roids is interesting

[@thunderstarchampion]

Fun obscure fact about Gyroid: in the old GX GBA game, Duel Academy, this was one of the cards in some the best Final Countdown deck, which allowed ya to grind a lot of that games currency

[@ThunderDragonRandy]

I used to play that game as a kid.

[@kawaii_toast6662]

Fun fact: In yugioh master duel, all the stats on the vehicroid secret box are half that of the cyber dragons secret box.

[@arenbuffaloe6578]

Man... They really gotta tell the truth like that, huh?

[@ishmaelvilmenay3340]

They have to make them like magnets in a way add a better version of them mix with them.

[@empresscarrie6230]

this archetype was my absolute favorite as a kid. i spent a lot of time and my parents money pulling for this and all i had to show for it was an ultimate uforoid which to be fair i thought was the coolest.

[@GMWCHARLES]

"Do you know what I found out?" Hilariously gold.😂😂

[@forgottenplayer7286]

So first things first, we need more fusion monsters, cards like patroid/jetroid/decoyroid should have more options to go into than pair cycroid or mobile base. Second, it'd be cool if they reworked some old cards like they did with Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. They created "Neo Blue-eyes..." If they gave cards like steam gyroid a neo form to switch into more modern "Roid" decks, it'd make the card more viable. They can add it for pretty much all the lackluster cards. Give it Steamroid's effect, or make it easier to summon by updating the summoning conditions, maybe increase its attack or defense a bit. Third, they could also give these "Neo-Roid's" the (this is treated as a vehicroid) effect, making the fusion spell relevant again. This'll also give a win condition: create high atk monsters that are protected by the fusion spell, then swing over their opponent. Not the best win condition, but better than Pair Cycroid or Mobile base

[@adriannaranjo4397]

It's like Konami is going out of their way to make each wave of Vehicroid support bad and incompatible with each other The only other archetype who gets worse support is Red-Eyes

[@bibigamer502]

The funny thing is I actually like Red Eyes Black Dragon and feel bad for it

[@megamanpwn3dmario]

fun fact; super vehicroid Stealth union is a reference to GaoGaiGar, and 3 of the 4 monsters that make it up are identical to the machines in that show; the train, drill and jet. no lion for the main chest though.

[@Yojimbo16]

It's the Stealth Plane, not the Jet that's used. Also as pointed out on the Yugioh Wiki, if you replace the Truck with the Jet, you can get GaoFighGar out of it.

[@WarBuilder5426]

They would need a massive retrain. As a Transformers fan, I'd kinda like to see them lean more into a Transformers aesthetic if they did, mostly because I find a lot of the vehicroids to look like they belong in the Toon archetype. It feels like an archetype they'd need to do something akin to what they did with Ishizu's cards and effectively go "gut everything, we're starting from scratch."

[@ixiahj]

I remember their win condition was in the anime. Use vehicroid connection zone to summon jumbo drill then use remove limiter on it. VCZ makes it immune to self destruct. It becomes a 6k piercing beat stick that you couldn't destroy with effects. This was strong when you didn't have a lot of options to remove a tower like that. I also remember remove limiter was unlimited back then. Lol.

[@guinnessintheblood]

I wonder if it was a mistake to keep these apart from Speedroids. It might be more personal, but I like it in games when two seemingly unrelated things work well together. Like how Necroid Shaman is shown in this video being a "Roid" Fusion monter, it just adds a lot of enjoyment for me

[@zjzr08]

Knowing a "roid" archetype already existed makes me wonder why they still made the "Speedroid" in the firstplace rather than make a name that doesn't interfere with an existing one (especially also from a major anime character).

[@RetroPanda13]

I love how in the anime setting, Dragonroid serves absolutely no purpose at all with the Roid archetype but is only used with the specific archetype that is Cyberdark which in the anime lore, is an unique set of cards just like the Destiny Heroes or the Crystal Beasts as it was the Cyber art school forbidden deck. Yet Cyrus was able to get a Roid monster that works with this extremely unique archetype.

[@ToniBingi]

I hate that they went with 'non-WIND "roid" monster', when they could have done what some other archetypes have done and said 'Machine "roid" monster (except "Speedroid" monsters)'.

[@kolbymiller3440]

I just wonder how much would change if all the monsters got "vehicroid" added to their names and all the effects that say "non wind roid" changed to "vehicroid"

[@GeargusArchfiend]

Stealth Union: "Who are you?" Chaos Ancient Gear Giant: "I'm you, but better in every way"

[@ixiahj]

It was one of the few machine fusion archtypes back in the day so it took advantage of power bond and remove limiter. Too bad its own name screwed it over.

[@arcanegale285]

I think that the vehicroid deck has potential for being saved They just need a few things changed/added: 1) naming scheme overhaul 2) Spell card searcher (E-Call but for them) 3) 1 more generic-esque fusion (Pair Cycroid like but instead of 2 with the same name maybe 3 with different ones?) 4) some form of protection 5) 1 or 2 more support cards similar to Mixeroid.

[@jakew6162]

Don’t forget adding the manga roids monsters and spells/traps as well

[@TheGoodOne1998]

What makes Stealth Union even worse, as a fan of mecha, is that it most likely based on GaoGaiGar.

[@SowaraAkther1]

Honestly, the Vehicroid had so much potential in my eyes. However, it was a train wreck to begin with. I'm hoping Konami can save this archetype, and they can with monsters like Kiteroid.

[@williamdrum9899]

Hehe, "train wreck"

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

I mean they made genex have *a game plan* with a single link minster So perphaps..... it's not impossible

[@draph91]

don't you mean a Steamroid wreck?

[@rainbowdragon168]

Please do the Libromancer archetype next. I would love to know what their lore is since it seems to be interesting. Also the reason why Shuttleroid was never printed internationally was basically because Konami may have violated the trademark or copyright on the U.S Space Shuttle when making the card and Konami is avoiding to print it or something like that

[@azuredragon7415]

The gex archetype , besides jokes yeah the lore is actually really interesting so i would love to see it .

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@azuredragon7415Yeah the lore is interesting and I love playing with the deck in Master Duel

[@Ramsey276one]

Another Featherman incident...

[@danielramsey6141]

So Why Won’t They Just RENAME IT THEN! Like ROCKET ROID! Or SPACE ROID! Seriously 🙄

[@ajbXYZcool]

​@@danielramsey6141I don't think the name is the problem. I think it's the design of the monster itself.

[@SirAsdf]

Vehicroid feels like an archetype that only existed to be Syrus' lame baby deck that he eventually grows out of, and Konami has been treating it like that ever since.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Eh, it kind of makes sense when you look at Zane and Syrus. They are brothers thus their decks are similar, Zane uses a fusion heavy deck of cool looking machine dragons, thus Syrus uses a machine deck as well, but made up of more goofy looking monsters to fit his more whimpy demeanor and personality. Problem is because Zane was supposed to be a badass from the start his cards needed to be good too, while Syrus had to be stuck with lame cards cause he wasn't supposed to be really good until atleast Season 2.

[@ChoomOfDoom]

How Syrus got anywhere with this deck, let alone Obelisk Blue, is the biggest suspension of disbelief the anime ever gave us

[@joshuagrandison7219]

Drillroid actually was pretty decent around the time flip effects and walls like Spirit Reaper and Marshmallon were still relevant. It was a stronger Sasuke Samurai, able to get past annoying stall monsters and the 1600 ATK was pretty good. But it's long past irrelevant now and even back then spell and trap based removal was a little more versatile.

[@shutup611]

Why didn't the support cards just say "Search for a roid monster except a speedroid" we see them do something like this with other cards notably any fusion search now says "except wave motion difusion"

[@Ramsey276one]

*YES* IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

[@mr2oxking]

If they make some of the manga cards it will do a little better. The unfortunate thing is that any new support we get for this archetype will most likely connect it to the cyberdark archetype instead of its own archetype

[@ValianceGames]

16:13 My eye literally twitched. Feels like Game Freak designed this archetype with how many monkey's paws there are

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

What i really hate of Truckroid. 1000 atk!!!! Like really now?!!! They want you to run over monsters and equip them!! How can you do that really with a 1000 atk monster?!!! It would be better to flip flop the stats around with it having a 2000 def! Idc if they change its effects so you only can gain half of the atk. But seriously 1000 atk!! Thats one way to fix one thing in the archetype. I know super small thing but so irritating knowing a ok effect in that archetype have a weak atk that they cant utilize the effect!

[@user-cj6iy4do9h]

I mean you can use Megaroid city to flip stats

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

@@user-cj6iy4do9h for a hard opt and hard locks you into fusions. Yeah that's a hard no for me. Also it only affects 1 monster. At that point what's the point of playing that card?

[@enlongjones2394]

They’ve made a bunch of cards that say “non-wind roid monster”, and then they keep making more wind roid monsters.

[@bibigamer502]

They like the roids as much as fire likes ice

[@ethanjenkins5079]

I have fallen in LOVE with the Fallen Albaz and the SEVERAL archetypes that it pairs with. It also has a SUPER EXPANSIVE lore that would be a great undertaking to cover. I love using this card in masterduel and its boss monsters are hecka powerful.

[@batriam5921]

I mean sure with a lot of effort it can be saved. But Konami printing the new support as wind monsters after specifically deciding that their effects won't work on wind monsters does not give me much hope. it's like printing branded support that says "this card isn't and can never be treated as fallen of albaz"

[@nziom]

They need a branded fusion like effect and that would barely be enough to make them playable

[@the-real-mysticx67]

I Iove how speedroids are like the younger more successful brother of vehicroids

[@TonyGG6300]

Wow, this video makes me wanna start a project where I take old and forgotten archtypes like "Roids" and give them a small boost in effects and card design and make fun proxy decks out of them.

[@KaoruMzk]

To paraphrase Rata: These are a bunch of random pack filler cards with no synergy that were printed as an archetype for whatever reason.

[@D-Havoc]

That montage of loses is exactly how Konami planned for Vehicroids.

[@BlazingLee0610]

Still love these cards. Would love to build an old school deck with them. Wanted to back in 2008 after the 5Ds starter deck released and I still do! Vehicroids need a total overhaul for today's Yu-Gi-Oh though.

[@Mangamad7]

The most used "vehicle"roid was Drillroid. Just destroy without flipping was the most useful outside its archetype.

[@beastwarsFTW]

Some of the Vehicroids workd okay in an Ojama deck. Submarineroid becomes an 1800 direct attacker and Truckroid end up as a really strong but cheap beater monster.

[@Pyrobull16128]

what they should do is make the manga vertions of the archetype and then give them some really good effects to help the vehicalroids biggest problems.

[@shulkash8799]

Hope some day that the manga roid cards get printed someday, there is still hope.

[@ronaldmcdonald4103]

I want chazz's anime exclusive spells that actually made hid ojamas go with the rest of his deck

[@benjaminseelking9483]

So, basically, we need to build a Timemachine and go back to when these Cards where originally designed, and tell the Designers to improve their Ideas

[@sasir2013]

that's right, we need to go back in time to when these cards where originally designed, and tell the designers to improve their ideas

[@xakuray5522]

I feel like 2 spell cards could almost salvage this archetype, - sent 2 non-wind "roid" monsters with different names from your deck to the GY; add 1 "roid" monster to from your deck to your hand. Hopt - Fusion summon 1 "roid" fusion monster by banishing materials from your hand or GY. You can banish this card from the GY; special summon a "roid" monster from the GY in defense position.

[@Actionfan19]

As someone who once upon a time favored machine types, this archetype hurt me. I mean it was a miracle Cyrus got any kind of win in the show.

[@PKSparkxxDH]

You can distort the audio, but I still recognize that Mario Kart 64 "You lose" tune LOL

[@TGSAnime]

😁

[@supervegito8340]

Fun fact: the vehiroid support cards DONT JUST WORK FOR THEM. It uses the suffix “roid” so it works with nekROID shaman, speedROID as an archetype, and even more

[@cuauhtemocgonzales2530]

😅 he mentioned that in the vid.

[@Yojimbo16]

With 2024 being the 20th Anniversary of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX and the reveal of Lightsworn, an Archetype released during the GX Era getting new support in Legacy of Destruction, I'm willing to bet that it's also going to include support/retrains of the Vehicroids.

[@soukenmarufwt5224]

If we want to draw straws. Lightsworn is Blair's deck in Tag Force. I refuse to acknowledge her anime cards cause not even Konami wants to.

[@Firered328]

I've had a couple ideas for the Vehicroids myself. Obviously giving the Vehicroids their own blanket text of (this card is treated as a "Vehicroid" monster). Errata Mixeroid and Dragonroid to work with Vehicroids specifically. Give retrains to Steam Gyroid,, and Ambulance Rescueroid (I'm thinking "Super Vehicroid Flying Locomotive", and "Super Vehicroid Urgent Care" for them respectively). And finally giving them a sort of Link Monster to kind of act as a kind of backbone for the deck (A shuttlebus/twin level bus-based vehicroid?). Obviously it's not enough, but it's a start at the very least, and can kind of help them get back on track to what the deck is about, instead of feeling like a "little brother of cyber dragon" sort of deck.

[@CGTuTsol]

UFOroid Fighter really does give off strong mall cop energy.

[@carolynbossom2297]

One of my personal favorite combos with this archetype is using chain material, and vehicroid connection zone. It's a bit slow, but this can cheat out all of their vehicroid fusions, while also being protected by chain materials destruction effect

[@benjam015]

Super Vehicroid - Stealth Union is also a reference to GaoGaiGar Anime in case no one noticed just minus the Lion Chest Piece

[@Tidalley]

Imagine if they did retrains of this archetype, making sure that said retrains have "Vehicroid" in their name. Would help with their viability

[@thevideogamemafia568]

When I was a kid I had a Steamroid, and it’s still one of my favorite cards

[@toumabyakuya]

Another cool fact about Stealth Union is that it is based on GaoGaiGar. Not only its materials are the same required to form GaoGaiGar, but its effects reference GaoGaiGar's powers as well.

[@GenesicKaiser]

And let's not forget, the Solidroads (They need to be printed, would likely be generic and usable) are Getter Robo forms.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@GenesicKaiser Could you tell me their names? Tried searching but got nothing.

[@GenesicKaiser]

@@toumabyakuya Solidroad Alpha, Beta and Gamma. Alpha looks like Getter 1 with Getter 2's head and GGG's StealthGao, Solidroad Gamma looks like Getter 3 + Getter Poseidon and looks like it's out of Megaman Exe (Even has arm cannons resembling 1st Armor X's Buster that shoots out cyclones). Beta looks the least Getter like, kinda Stelva/Gunbuster like. In the manga, they form via 3 plane like roids, much like the Getter Machines.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@GenesicKaiser Thanks. Still couldn't see them at all no matter how I searched them. They sound cool, though.

[@Erablier]

It’s funny that you mentioned that Barbaroid is made of 5 unreleased roid monsters because the shocking reality is, there’s around 15 monsters from the manga that never got released (Carrier, Shuttle, Armor and Barba were the only ones released) on top of their S/T, so they could give them a huge wave of support just releasing some of these guys with updated effects Also includes a version of Stealthroid that looks and functions different from the TCG version, probably would need a rename when released

[@thexdatabase]

15:38 cool artwork wasted and its a reference to gaogaigar

[@AloneTheorist]

If vehicroids got a machine type equivalent to branded fusion they'd have a lot less issues. Naming convention issues could be addressed by the release of a new set similar to maze of memories that adds new archetype members that address original issues, kinda like how gate guardian got new fusion forms instead of being left unplayable and useless as it's original form. Extra super vehicroid fusions that use only two to three material monsters would also vastly improve playability via vehicroid connection zone and create a repeatable win condition saving the deck.

[@leviosdraekion6993]

14:03 for future reference the odds of us getting a Cyber Dragon Eins is so low it is comical. My reasoning is because we already have a card that could be considered it. The card is Cyber Dragon. It's the first Cyber Dragon made after the prototype.

[@robertsixx775]

A little latte, but fun fact. Super Vehicroid Mobile Base/Megaroid City is a reference(or heavily inspired by) to a Transformers character called Metroplex

[@armityle1]

I truly love hearing the opinion of someone that suffered with this archetype. It feels so raw and honest.

[@Crim-kun]

rank10 trains did what vehicroids couldn't especially in regards to the field spell

[@davidwhidden9337]

Needs more extra deck options other than Fusion. Like a Link or Synchro Monster that has you summon the construction or emergency vehicles. More spell support to special summon with a cost of some sort. Or let's be honest. It needs a whole rework.

[@Dratspider]

a complete ground up rework is the best way to go about it. any amount of support to make them playable, let alone viable would have to be so good or generic that the support would get banned leaving them exactly where they are.

[@draph91]

You know I think Link works better than Synchro, it fits with the vehicle theme

[@OutlawStar26ep]

I believe the way to make Roids work(as in: have an identity and goals, not be meta) lies in the 5 German number Roids from the manga plus the gy fusion spell Change Einroid's effect to work when sent to the gy in anyway (EX:Megaroid city or a Link Kuriboh) and give numbers 3-5 good effects like searching(for the field/fusion spells and counter trap) when sent to gy, then you have something to aim for. since Dragon and Mixer (and one for one) can get you to it consistently plus the 5 manga roids could all have a shared effect to be counted as the named roid fusion materials so you can just used them to make the older Vehicroid fusion if you need too Also if this archetype gets a way to search for Limiter Removal it can aim for an OTK goal. that card is already in the Vehicoid pack in Master Duel

[@chaoslacky1585]

With the right support being added I could see this archtype being at least decent. It needs some support cards that both swarm the field with roids and boost their ATK at the same time. Some decent searches and revival. It could use either an upgraded version of Vehicroid Connection Zone or one that works for the lower level fusions while also setting you up for Vehicroid Connection Zone. As for as the issue with Speedroids getting the support meant for roids they could just have the cards say "Machine-type roid monsters that is not a Speedroid" to avoid the archtype support from overlapping. It would also be nice if there was a way for the Fusions to gain the effects of their fusion material so those seemingly random effects could be stacked.

[@renaldyhaen]

I think we can fix it if we: 1. Give a "Roid" searcher but fusion-lock. Speedroid can only fusion. It is enough to prevent them from using Speedroid because the speed itself has a lot of restrictions too. 2. Fusion spell that can use a monster from the deck or an extra deck like Lunalight Fusion. 3. In archetype E-Tele please

[@VanishEclipse4867]

I say the Vehicroid Archetype could not only get extra support but also a retrain of its' classic cards like Ishizu's cards like as you said adding the Vehicroid into their names with new effects would do wonders.

[@Saens406]

funny that new roid support adds the "non-wind roid" but the most recent one, dragonroid, is a wind monster

[@polocatfan]

I mean the fusion protection effect of dragonroid can work with cyberdark, so you technically could run it in that. also the two newest vehicroids are wind so they're unsearchable. that's literally the only reason why.

[@sasir2013]

yeah, it's practically tailored to be used with cyberdarks. It's not really vehicroid support

[@RaineAsteria]

It's like they took the idea of Transformers and thought, "Okay, how can we make this as terrible as possible?"

[@ryancasey9763]

20:57 "punching down" is one of the funniest things you've said in this video and trading cards i love it

[@TheHollowBoy]

I can’t help but find it a little funny that my most favorite casual deck (SpeedRoids) negativity affect the quality of vehicolrois. Just for both having Roid in the name

[@endyenderman69]

Here’s my idea to make vehicroids slightly better 1. The main roids (not speedroids) they pull a summoned skull and add a little thing at the bottom saying that they are always considered vehicroid cards and possibly changing mixer and dragonroid’s effects to search a vehicroid instead of a non wind roid

[@filipvadas7602]

1. I feel like a good way to help this deck would be to print a toolbox of low level fusions with simple but strong effects. (Non-target removal, bouncing, negation etc) It would make Mixeroid's frankly ridicilous cost actually worth running. 2. To this day I don't get why Shuttelroid and Kiteroid aren't available/real cards yet.

[@Robodragonlord]

Can the Vehicroid archetype be saved? Honestly, it's possible. Retraining some of the fusions can help, but won't be good enough to make it viable. I can think of a couple card ideas. 1) "Super Vehicroid Reconstruction Area" Continuous Spell Effect: During your Main Phase, you can Fusion Summon one Machine-Type "-roid" monster from your Extra Deck by banishing the listed materials from your hand, field, GY, or Deck. If the summoning of the Fusion monster by this effect is successful, apply the following effects based on where the materials came from. Hand: Draw 1 card Field: The Fusion-summoned monster is unaffected by your opponent's card effects until the End Phase GY: Once, if the Fusion-summoned monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, it is not. Deck: Any effect damage you would take would become 0 until the Standby Phase of your opponent's next turn. You can only have one copy of "Super Vehicroid Reconstruction Area" on your field. You can only activate the effects of "Super Vehicroid Reconstruction Area" once per turn. 2) Vehicroid! Rollout! Trap Effect: Select one Fusion Machine-Type "-roid" monster from your Extra Deck that has listed names as materials. SS all the named materials from your hand, Deck, or GY in Defense position. Those monsters' effects are negated and are destroyed during the End Phase. Just a couple ideas.

[@billybobjoe1335]

Vehicroids: exist. Literally every serious TCG player: Garbage day!

[@Dragon66898]

They need focusing and a full archetype naming like what Summon Skull got. More generic fusion monsters with Super Vehicroid in their name or a new fusion spell that just specifies machine roid fusion monsters. Many monster seem to have battle based effects so give them some back row support for that and for the love of the Egyptian Gods cards, Wicked Gods cards, Sacred Beast cards and Nordic God cards some protection.

[@Sta_cotto]

Now I feel like designing an entire set of synergistic retrains for this archetype

[@toumabyakuya]

Oh boy! Good luck with that!.

[@GoldRichness]

I mean gate guardian got that treatment so why not this too?

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

Same OFF TO DUELING BOOK WE GO

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

​@@GoldRichness repaired genex controller: did someone say *ULTIMATE OFFERING?!*

[@GoldRichness]

@@idosarts_and_krafts lmao, true

[@spartanmagnus9176]

There needs to be a crossover between speedroid and vehicroid cards. Cards that focus on the roid aspect of the name and focus on fusion summoning with synchro monsters.

[@Jerao]

Fun fact: Super Vehicroid Stealth Union is a reference to King of Braves Gaogaigar almost identically

[@flamefyr]

Man, I loved this deck in high-school. Was my favorite of the GX archetypes and while it only won me a handful of games, I'll never forget when I pulled off a UFOroid Fighter ftk!

[@draph91]

Impressive

[@Asako_Gaming]

This is where if YuGiOh! adopted the Pokémon style where they rerelease old cards with new effects but the same name it could be great. I know Yu-Gi-Oh! does retrains but it would be nice to see some of the original monsters be reborn with new effects but still be called what we remember them as instead of some offshoot name. Would be an easy way for them to reprint new cards whilst still addressing older archtypes. Let's face it, the only way Vechiroid is ever gonna see play is if they come out with an entire new major set or if they rebrand the older cards to have updated effects.

[@melvinshine9841]

Super Vehicroid-Mobile Base is straight up Metroplex from Transformers. You know an archetype is some garbage when they have a busted Counter Trap like Emergeroid Call and it does nothing to help them.

[@ninomitchell2039]

Good thing about expressroid too is that it's a non-once-per-turn, generic summon, machine duplication target. Not that I think it's a good target or a 3 of, unless you side a copy or 2, but it's not a bad target at least in a roid deck.