The Troubles | Northern Ireland | The Orangemen | Marching Season | This Week | 1970

The procession through Belfast passed of Quietly. But one of the largest Orange marches showed the strength of the orange order in Ulster poilitics.
Who are the Orangemen and what do they stand for? ‘This Week’ went to Belfast to follow the celebrations of the anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne, Bonfires on the Saturday night and church on Sunday and a March on the Monday.
First shown: 23/07/1970
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[@RetroReminiscing]

Thank you for this and taking us back to the 70's, have a lovely sunday

[@rassawhelan6045]

Not now sinn fein are part of that very system and dropped everything they stood for..

[@CelticMickWalks]

I am going to visit Belfast again after Christmas, it's a beautiful city. As a resident of Wexford, born in Canada from parents of Belfast and my granny was green and grandad was orange, reason they had to leave Belfast in 1960's. Its come along way and I have seen beautiful people from both sides.

[@stephensmith4480]

I am from Liverpool but I have spent the best part of 20 years in Belfast. I Love the city and it`s people. I have met people from both sides of the divide and I have always found them to be warm and friendly but direct, which is like my own city. One of the last times I was there I went to The Belfast Xmas Market and had a great time. Enjoy your visit my friend.

[@CelticMickWalks]

@@stephensmith4480 thanks Stephen looking forward to it.

[@stephensmith4480]

@@CelticMickWalks 👍😊

[@stephenholmes1036]

The orange order existed in England and Scotland. They marched and in Southport, Lancashire catholic churches like St Maries had to clise for the day in the late 1980s

[@monkehbitch]

Hold on, Grabbing my megaphone. FREMANTLE!

[@BenDover-tj8vf]

Northern Ireland is stunningly beautiful, the people are so friendly and kind . I wish in time they can find a way to live next door to each other without any questions of religion .

[@michaelfoley9904]

It has nothing to do with religion, it's about identity.

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@michaelfoley9904 yes that's true

[@aalexjohna]

Until they blow your kneecaps off, LOL

[@Anonymous-yc9fl]

From all my research it appears to of been about control tbh

[@MiloManning05]

@@Anonymous-yc9fl controlling Irish people

[@DrPhil-pw2to]

George Beat said “ that when he went to England he thought he was British but soon realized that he was Irish “.

[@aalexjohna]

Alcoholic Irish. Illiterate?

[@Jim54_]

When talking about modern Ireland one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since then.

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

Well said friend.

[@yesenochwasRIGHT]

So why did Irish Catholics attack church going Protestants with the blessing of Catholic priests?

[@Jim54_]

@@yesenochwasRIGHT depends on the period. Which century in particular are you referring to?

[@tf6446]

@7:00 🌹 Wise man there

[@jamesoneill2933]

🎵Up to their necks with the sea border 🎶

[@FRAaaaaaaa776]

Willem Hendrik the Dutch man Born in Holland. Nothing else to hold on too but your man in the 1690s " Four green fields" Planters of Ulster, in the next generation there will be no UK but England alone so take your pick I say and good luck ✌🏻

[@4-dman464]

Peter Jay and Weekend World did a lot of coverage. Don't you have any Weekend World. I spose the Mountain theme tune is copyright but still...

[@kamandi1362]

Weekend World was London Weekend not Thames.

[@damarekonayaro5781]

One day the 6 Counties will come home.

[@koeman1873]

You'll never see it.

[@paullooney2522]

@@koeman1873 Aye, you will,where the Irish are a minority in their own country,and that includes you, will be a minority along with the rest of the Irish.

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@koeman1873 are you sure???😜☘️🇮🇪

[@koeman1873]

@@mz-sh4vq definitely.

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@koeman1873 Say my why, please.

[@ProfessorPesca]

It never ceases to amaze me how much Northern Ireland in the 70s looks like a genuine Third World country.

[@ProfessorPesca]

@Legion I don’t think it is in the same way at all. I’ve not seen people setting huge fires in the middle of residential streets like this. Or talking about the residents of the same towns and cities in the way these children talk about the catholic kids. It’s just alien to me as someone who has never visited NI.

[@johnberney6563]

@@Brap-pl2me That's actually pretty spot on. NI Catholic leaders and other reformists in the 1960's explicitly used Martin Luther King and the activism of his Southern Christian Leadership Conference as a model for their own struggle. Unfortunately the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association was met with such murderous violence from the RUC and the Protestant paramilitaries that war became unavoidable.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

If you went to towns in Northern England or Glasgow at the same time you would have seen the exact same horrific depravation - grey, falling to pieces council blocks and docks. That was just Britain in those days.

[@jcjc4158]

The British Occupied Six Counties of Ireland not only in the 1970's but today, 08 12 2022. not only, still looks like a third world country, but is treated like one by the British Tory Government, Orangemen-puppets of the aforementioned Tory party, are still playing the Orange card loyalist dommination of the North.

[@paulflah4562]

​@@allureofthelens8858 The westboro nutters are a very good example of the type of fundamental backwards thinking in places like as you said there , Ballymena. Trouble is that they all haven't gone away either yet

[@philmcdermott7516]

Any one know what tune their playing at around 12 mins in? Ta

[@williamgoldsmith3796]

"Orangemen have never been taught to be bigots" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@George-dx2sd]

They didn't need to be taught, it comes naturally .I have met them and their Republican counterparts up close and personal , I wouldn't trust either side as far as I could throw them.

[@yesenochwasRIGHT]

​@@George-dx2sdliar.

[@yesenochwasRIGHT]

Catholics are not bigots 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 They sing" soon there'll be no Protestants at all" No, they are nice folk. In 1641 ,Catholics massacred Christians ,they soon got some payback tjough. They brought all the trouble upon themselves and are doing the same now ,by welcoming Islamists.

[@robertdoyle687]

Where is Perfidious Albion in all of this?

[@TomWakeman-ul7om]

The last of a bloodly empire.

[@Al-iv3mb]

And to this day each weekend the flights from Belfast to Glasgow are full with either Rangers supporters and their Union flags or else Celtic supporters with their Irish tricolours. Like 50 odd years ago most of the working class people of Ulster continue to go to separate schools, churches and pubs. Depressing and sad in equal measure

[@raymondhaskin9449]

I always find these old clips so tragic. To see how patriotic the Ulster Scots are - contrasted with the rootless English journalists, who are totally devoid of any sense of nationhood or duty. The journalist simply cannot wrap his head around why the children care deeply about their history and culture. Or have a desire to defend it.

[@johncanty3833]

I'd imagine he can't wrap his head around their ignorance. A great part of their 'culture' seems to be hating the native people of the island.

[@privateaccount5400]

No one in England loves the monarchy, we laugh at how under the boot those that do are so seeing protestants get all bent out of shape is hilarious, they've done nothing for you nor me the royals.

[@dannyboy5517]

One third of Ulster is in the Republic and perfectly at peace Get your facts right

[@raymondhaskin9449]

Everyone knows Ulster means Northern Ireland mate. Stop being disingenuous.

[@dannyboy5517]

@@raymondhaskin9449 you obviously dont know the first thing about Ireland North or South I am an Ulsterman but not from Northern Ireland Go back and finish your pint

[@jamescarney4394]

@@raymondhaskin9449 you need a little lesson in geography

[@swizerland100]

@@dannyboy5517 do you see yourself from somewhere then??

[@itsmesoitis4059]

@@dannyboy5517 6+3=1

[@DrPhil-pw2to]

How do you know ET was a Protestant? The head on him.

[@careyscates3516]

Sad that we were manipulated to fight our neighbors, unite together and take out government and police

[@comradekettle]

Without the police who will tell you that theres nothing that can be done about your wallet getting stolen? Nah but fr anarchy is childish and unrealistic, governments will always arise its just the natural order of things, we're lucky to have gotten past the centuries of fighting to the point where we can have stable democracies.

[@mickmacgonigle5021]

The biggest lie was that the troubles were about religeon

[@Horizon344]

What do u think it was about mate?

[@PiarasMcGroggan8070]

@@Horizon344 oppression

[@Horizon344]

@@PiarasMcGroggan8070 Try ethnicity + revolutionary Marxism, & yo might be more along the right track

[@anthonywalsh7613]

@@Horizon344 more about politics & ideology

[@Horizon344]

@@anthonywalsh7613 Marxist revolutionary politics in combination with Irish Republicanism, on top of an ethnic societal fault line

[@peterroberts5565]

And they called themselves Irish

[@michaelfoley9904]

Well anyone born in Ireland is Irish 🇮🇪☘

[@raymondhaskin9449]

We aren’t Irish, we don’t call ourselves Irish. We are Ulster Scots and we are British people and we are never joining your cringeworthy republic. No surrender 🇬🇧.

[@michaelfoley9904]

@@raymondhaskin9449 nah , wrong again, anyone born on the Island of Ireland , is Irish, come on now, even Ian Paisley said he was Irish, but he thought himself british as well. You can think yourself what ever, but the fact still remains , all 32 counties of Ireland is Irish, not british, and when that artificial border is gone in about 5 to 10 years, the country of Ireland will be one again. Éirinn go Brách ( Ireland forever ) 🇮🇪☘🇮🇪☘🇮🇪☘🇮🇪☘

[@michaelfoley9904]

@@raymondhaskin9449 oh and by the way, just in case you haven't noticed, Ulster is in Ireland, so Ulster is Irish 🇮🇪☘🇮🇪☘.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

@@michaelfoley9904 Nah, we’re Ulster Scots. The Irish are a different tribe. You only have to listen to the way people in Northern Ireland speak to know they’re basically Scottish. Aye, wee, lass etc

[@PaulEcosse]

Well that was fairly disgusting. Thanks.

[@mz-sh4vq]

Tiocfaidh ar la! 🇮🇪✊✊

[@DukeofConnaught977]

For God and Ulster ✋

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@DukeofConnaught977 and blah blah blah!

[@DukeofConnaught977]

@@mz-sh4vq You're day will never come.

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@DukeofConnaught977 Your empire has gone, your weak britain is a sinking boat. You can have just an empire state of mind and dreams of lost power.

[@terrysorange975]

Most orange are racists and hate native locals

[@yesenochwasRIGHT]

Assisting this in 2024 ,Thames TV journalists are already using loaded language attacking the loyalty of the Ulstermen and his Britishness. Now journalists of today ,or their sons ,daughters are promoting Islamists and apologists for all that is bad.

[@williamgoldsmith3796]

Children singing about being up to their knees in the blood of Catholics. My God what kind of animals are they?

[@dessy76]

Prods.

[@johncanty3833]

Descendants of land grabbers who were kicked out of England.

[@George-dx2sd]

The same kind as the catholics they are singing about 2 CHEEKS 1 ARRSE !

[@stephenholmes1036]

They are children remember that, Thats how tbey were brought up

[@noka1979]

Embarrassing

[@frothe42]

Now Catholics outnumber Protestants in Northern Ireland 🇮🇪, and now they are demanding reunification with the Republic. But Ireland has problems similar to England, especially when it comes to affordable housing. So, like England, the Irish are emigrating to other, affordable countries.

[@frothe42]

@Legion I'm stating that. What I am changing is that NI is no longer predominantly Protestant. And that the Republic of Ireland has similar problems to the UK 🇬🇧. So reunification will have no beneficial effect. Many things have changed in NI in 50 years, but certain things remain the same.

[@malsmith1618]

@Legion where did you hear that nonsense from the overwhelming majority of catholic’s vote for parties who want a united ireland

[@michaelfoley9904]

@@spiritofbebella i dont know where you are getting your information from, but your wrong. Give it 5 to 10 years , there will be a United Ireland. You can't keep a country divided forever 🇮🇪☘🇮🇪☘

[@terrysorange975]

@@michaelfoley9904 hope so my irish family. I knew a orange man and he hates native irish never knew he was at the time until he put a orange march on hes social media. My inherits comes from ireland. Peace

[@BreakerBreakerYeo]

@@michaelfoley9904 Foley you do no that if that happens the troubles will come back 🤐

[@billybrowne2439]

Why did we tolerate these Bigotry People, and in our name.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Because we would be they

[@Krass.Estranged]

No Surrender.

[@anniegrath1417]

No surrender to what exactly???

[@Krass.Estranged]

@@anniegrath1417 Terrorism, Popery, Fenianry and the Irish Republic.

[@laurencefarrell2775]

You will all be under the one flag soon, God bless Ireland and its people.

[@mz-sh4vq]

@@laurencefarrell2775 😊🇮🇪☘️👍

[@GB-vn1tf]

@@laurencefarrell2775 aye dafty, the EU one? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@christopher9727]

Jesus Christ is the only hope for today and ever more John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

[@Kyle1994NI]

Faiths without Works is Dead