KEF LS50 Meta Vs Wharfedale Evo 4.2 Comparison

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Tharbamar

Tharbamar

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@lrdmagoo4754
@lrdmagoo4754 3 жыл бұрын
The quality and format of your videos are amazing. You’ve obviously put a lot of effort and thought into the presentation. I truly appreciate it.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sharminsultana7298
@sharminsultana7298 Жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Hello sir, we have the Evo 4.2. suggest us an upgrade around 1500usd of speakers over this please. Thanks
@ctr289
@ctr289 Жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar How come you find the Evo's sweetspot large when all reviewers and the graphs tell the opposite story, that they beam aggressively above 6kHz? People complain that the sound changes dramatically even when they move their hand a few inches to pick something from the table
@sukjoochoi
@sukjoochoi 3 жыл бұрын
I like Wharfedale Evo 4.2 for my taste. Very natural and well blended.
@clarencehoover6748
@clarencehoover6748 2 жыл бұрын
The audio sample recording are worth a million words. Thank you! 💜
@robertogarcia-qu9nb
@robertogarcia-qu9nb 4 жыл бұрын
The BEST, Evo 4.2. for me.
@loubano
@loubano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you very much for this great and usual Honest review. I follow and watch your video since a while and each time I really enjoy your approach, clear explanation of how speaker sound and above all your true honesty. Since month I am hesitating by picking up evo 4.2 and recently LS50 old model (since there are actually in discount at 600e) I just ordered evo 4.2 based on this last video because I see more of my taste will be filled by Evo. Thanks a lot for your great review and help ! Cedric
@bobnot24
@bobnot24 4 жыл бұрын
Bless for your personal apporach and not trying to theorize for the listener. I value the journey and can theorize for myself.
@tcc5750
@tcc5750 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as someone that owns a pair of bright speakers, the Evo 4.2 will be perfect to use for when I am feeling fatigued. Thank you for this video.
@carlosvalverde4544
@carlosvalverde4544 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best sound demo videos on the web, Thanx a lot
@Sam-ne9ns
@Sam-ne9ns 4 жыл бұрын
I'd pick the LS50! Amazing and complete review. Thanks!
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 4 жыл бұрын
Very accurate and honest review that is useful for potential buyers. Wish more reviewers did this more consumer-oriented review style.
@thruthspeaker2476
@thruthspeaker2476 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with audio reviews is that speakers and their sound are described with words. Without live listening it's only a road sign a hint. And after all that it goes to the most important thing that anyone can hear far more than difference between lets say those two speakers and it is room acoustics.
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 4 жыл бұрын
@@thruthspeaker2476 agreed, even good reviews with measurements and comparisons are not perfect methods to decide what to buy, but this review is useful enough that at least the reviewer deserves kudos
@RagnetulCarpatilor
@RagnetulCarpatilor 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, you commented on both of then in a down to earth way. I'll take the Evo's. KEF does exactly what most speaker manufacturers do these days, they throw a massive amount of detail at you forgetting what speakers should be designed for, that is enjoyment of music. The KEF's might sound better and less boxy in this comparison, that's only because of their sharpness. I used to pick my speakers based on this characteristic but what I found out is that after a week or two of listening to them that amazing detail becomes very fatiguing, taking away the joy and subtlety in music. And from this point on I'm rarely motivated to listen to music anymore, which defeats the whole purpose.
@awwbollocksthen1359
@awwbollocksthen1359 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put
@Florentin3
@Florentin3 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i felt with my ex pair of Kef R3. Very detailed but hard to listen for long periods of time.
@20puskinas1992
@20puskinas1992 3 жыл бұрын
Add sub for fucks sake. I mean only idiots can enjoy bookshelfs whitout sub.
@oslius
@oslius 3 жыл бұрын
evo sounds like it's in the bottom of a cave ...
@robertbrody4032
@robertbrody4032 2 жыл бұрын
@@Florentin3 Kef R3's are not bright when paired with the right amps.
@eltonc1505
@eltonc1505 3 жыл бұрын
The kef sounds lucious... Appreciate the effort u put in....👍
@redrock425
@redrock425 4 жыл бұрын
The vocals on the KEF could have cut glass it was so sharp. I have soon in the game with a pair of EVO 4.2 but I out my money where my mouth is, no regrets especially as I picked them up as ex demo for £350.
@shereewhite1710
@shereewhite1710 4 жыл бұрын
Such a thorough and well put together video (descriptors and links), much appreciated. Also, I auditioned the Wharfedale Evos in person, and there was something special about them to me. For the price differential, I would definitely go with the Evo 4.2. Your space is sparingly beautiful. I was wondering how does one go about determining whether to use sound panels or not and Where to place them?
@jerryjazzbo2845
@jerryjazzbo2845 4 жыл бұрын
The Meta is impressive, but I'll take the Evo. Better balance, less fatiguing for extended listening periods. Can handle louder volumes better as well (as Tharbamar stated).
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 Жыл бұрын
I on the other hand like the Metas more, and like what they sound very well at. low volume.
@stevenslater4395
@stevenslater4395 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome. No begging people, just good info.
@gayanthahettiarachchi9710
@gayanthahettiarachchi9710 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your superb review. LS50 meta would be my choice. Very nice demo too.
@jusjash
@jusjash 4 жыл бұрын
Evo 4.2 has it going on in every way. Another 👍👍review
@dedskin1
@dedskin1 3 жыл бұрын
except point source thing . Make no mistake on low volume KEF will have razor sharp image , easy to listen and falow . But as SPL goes up problems will start mounting and EVO4.2 will take the top place . But it will not get that razor sharp image due to not being a point source . There is no win win in audio , its a compromise . So best is to have them both
@DougMen1
@DougMen1 3 жыл бұрын
The 4.2 is one of the best I've heard under $2000
@sharminsultana7298
@sharminsultana7298 Жыл бұрын
Hello, we have the Evo 4.2/. Would you recommend an upgrade over this ? Around 1500usd please
@dougieroberts7045
@dougieroberts7045 4 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that a £1000 pair of loudspeakers (KEF) are being compared to a £600 pair of loudspeakers ( Wharfedales) says much more about the Wharfedales than it does about the Kefs. The sonic superiority of the Wharfedales is evident here, but to compound the value on offer just look at them, they are incredible looking, real head turners. Wharfedale are one of several UK loudspeaker companies that have a reputation of offering extremely good products at very competitive prices.
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 Жыл бұрын
I in general agree with you, but we will need better information about the drivers, and finally, it comes to taste. Also KEF often are very good at low volume.
@quitegenius
@quitegenius 4 жыл бұрын
Very close between the two. Really up to preference. Great Review!
@Freedom89984
@Freedom89984 3 жыл бұрын
Kef’s cases are like concrete, with tight bass and great highs, but above all they are stunning with a powerful warm sounding amp.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Not all KEF cabinets.
@Freedom89984
@Freedom89984 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar exactly, I mean the LS50 case
@panblue43
@panblue43 4 жыл бұрын
Only a question: why the manufacturers give wrong datas/parameters at new loudspeakers? The evo 4.2 has 150 mm bass driver, not 6,5".The diamond 10.2 has 6,5",yes +just a little bit bigger...🤔 The good old loudspeakers if you read that in catalog at speaker size 8" there was a real 200mm speaker. Why need to cosmetic these datas? The size is an important thing at woofers/midbass drivers because of the moving air mass. I know today manufacturing long throw bass units etc with little size but never will be good as a simple old real 8" or 10" bass driver.
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
6.5 inches is the size of the basket. Wharfedale and a few other manufacturers measure it that way.
@panblue43
@panblue43 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteFidelity This thing reminds me the cheap speakers where the "size"(diameter) grooved by the edge of the basket/chassis. I think the real diameter is based on the efficient cone+max the half of the felxible edge diameter.
@realtherrien2541
@realtherrien2541 4 жыл бұрын
The wharfdales sound better thank you for this demo
@next3576
@next3576 4 жыл бұрын
You are deaf.
@realtherrien2541
@realtherrien2541 4 жыл бұрын
@@next3576 thank you I thought something was wrong with my ears
@tonydeniro284
@tonydeniro284 4 жыл бұрын
Wharfedales rule....
@devinjohnson3943
@devinjohnson3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@next3576 my father used to own the ls50 and grew sick of them. The reason is very simple. Driver diversity results in lower distortion. I'm surprised at the compression I can hear on the bottom end.
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
@@next3576 and you are just an ignorant fanboy. Keep fanning.
@bp1012
@bp1012 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 4.2’s paired with a Rotel 1572 and blue sound node 2i. I couldn’t be a more happy.
@yewfh-oz7in
@yewfh-oz7in 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that... I heard the 50 Metas with the Rotel 1572 and loved it... but wasn't able to test the 4.2's on the same amp, which was very frustrating lol. Glad to hear you enjoy the combination, as this is what I'm thinking of getting :)
@bp1012
@bp1012 3 жыл бұрын
@@yewfh-oz7in I recently purchased the Loxjie DAC and it’s an absolutely amazing combination.
@henrifpv2868
@henrifpv2868 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your review. I really have a little fever for that evo 4.2. I have Wharfedale Denton 80th Anniversary and I have been liking them but that Evo is in my mind still.. :)
@daysofnoah1748
@daysofnoah1748 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new amp ! Big improvement over previous amps.
@wadeb47540
@wadeb47540 4 жыл бұрын
I have the regular wired LS50. Some songs sound amazing. Some songs sound thin and weak. I never know which until I play a song. I do have a B&W AS300 sub. Another great review.
@andrewcopley6454
@andrewcopley6454 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me, although for £540 they're a phenomenal speaker and much better (to my ear anyway) then the similarly priced Tannoy floor standers that I previously had. Apparently the Meta's are even better.
@justinparkman3585
@justinparkman3585 3 жыл бұрын
That's the recording for you they ars not all equal unfortunately. I'm not a fan of the ls50 to me they are boom boxes .
@andrewcopley6454
@andrewcopley6454 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinparkman3585 That's an absurd statement. My LS50's with my two REL T5i' subs sound superb. A true full range sound.
@justinparkman3585
@justinparkman3585 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcopley6454 that's OK till you hear something from the likes of ATC
@norman0320
@norman0320 4 жыл бұрын
KEF is the best sound for me
@gauravsehgal7890
@gauravsehgal7890 3 жыл бұрын
The 2nd track Scarborough Fair by Yao Is Ting clearly showed the difference in high frequencies. The Kef Meta is too bright and crisp that makes a fatiguing effect for long listening session. Evo 4.2 managed to present the female voice in a soft and easy to hear sound. Higher resolution and detailing of Kef has its own cons. The found that the bass in first track is better in Kef Meta because it is more controlled and tighter. Kef has done a brilliant job to deliver lows with such a small cabin. The Evo sounded a little boxy sound, it maybe because I am listening it on KZbin with Audio Technica headphones but Kef sounded better in lows. I think Evo is a better choice as it is a comparable speaker with meta in all aspects even with different prices. Both have their Ups and downs.
@Freedom89984
@Freedom89984 3 жыл бұрын
I do not agree. The Kef’s are not fatiguing on the long term at all. But they bring emotion of the singer into the room. That’s what I miss with the Evo’s, they sound good, but they lack the emotion I am looking for in music. For example, listen to the attack of the drum stick on the edge of the snare drum in sample 2. The LS50 has speed and depth in the sound, things I miss at the Evo.
@boogeyratt
@boogeyratt 2 жыл бұрын
Which is interesting because the frequency response at 0:19 shows the LS50 is actually lower on the high ends (except at the very end).
@DYNABLASTERTUNERS
@DYNABLASTERTUNERS 2 жыл бұрын
@@Freedom89984 Ahahaha these overhyped, by mediocre hearing sensed people, KEFs have flat and emotionless vocal
@ZeeDog27
@ZeeDog27 3 жыл бұрын
7:32 vs 10:04 is a great comparison. Evo wins for mine. Thanks for the sample. Plenty of reviews with opinions but with good headphones i can hear the difference here. Although i thinkn the KEF's are great the added bass and fullness of the Evo's put it ahead.
@wp7187
@wp7187 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you can get a sense of it through your headphones any way, but I wonder whether the imaging ability from KEF’s coaxial driver would outweigh the Wharfedale’s dominance with the low end frequencies.
@johnfredmurray
@johnfredmurray 3 жыл бұрын
The KEF sounds more forward sounding to my ears. I just ordered the Wharfdale Evo 4.2's. Can't wait to hear them. Thanks for your all your reviews
@chrisb1292
@chrisb1292 3 жыл бұрын
I listened to the LS50 Metas as well as the Evo 4.2 and liked the Evos a tad better! I use a pair of KEF LSX for near field while I'm working, for my living room I got myself a pair of Evo 4.3s , they sound simply amazing, especially for the price!
@Lifestylecoach602
@Lifestylecoach602 4 жыл бұрын
The denon pm11 is the bad boy here if you use kef ls50 meta try at least an higher end hegel amp denon pm11 is to warm ive heard them Both just try an hegel amp and you will be thankfull by the way your reviews are Super!!! Great work
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I tried Hegel H590 before SX11 and it don’t impress me to be honest, cheaply made quality with ok sound for the price.
@n.g.x.91
@n.g.x.91 3 жыл бұрын
I have a quick compare Evo 4.2 with Kanto Tuk in a same setting. Evo 4.2 has a balance sound, but mid-bass have a bit tail & hum. Totally Kanto Tuk in a smaller shape but it has a amazing sound. Fantastic Bass, and dynamic.
@mickwebs
@mickwebs 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice of tracks very clear differences thanks
@panblue43
@panblue43 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I am big wharfedale fan, but now I think the Ls50 is better. The ls50 is liquid, the sound is one unit-at the wharfedale I heard a little hole (maybe cause of cross frequencies at 3 way). The bass is massive and strong at wharfedale but little muddy-this effect makes heavy and unclear the both soundstage. The ls50 is "easy", has good bass but has also living mids and highs. The bass not massing the sound. Good job-good test! Best regards!
@subramaniamchandrasekar1397
@subramaniamchandrasekar1397 4 жыл бұрын
The EVO has better clarity but needs another woofer to help out.
@adamdeverb
@adamdeverb 4 жыл бұрын
I love to compare a track by its balance between vocal and music.. so i would choose LS50 Meta since the vocal sounds clearly without distracting the hi frequency resonances from the musical.
@hermanmunster3358
@hermanmunster3358 Жыл бұрын
In this test, the Evo 4.2 clinch it for me. The LS50 just cannot compete with the same drama that the Evo's bring. But that is no big surprise, since the Evo's are a bigger box, with three seperate drivers. They sounded bigger, fuller, and just more accomplished than the LS50's. That said, in another test against a pair of Monitor Audio Bronze 2's, the LS50's sounded much more open and forward than the Bronze 2's, especially with vocals and strings. So a more pronounced mid range too, than the Bronze 2's. So all this goes to prove, that you really must listen, and make your own comparisons, before settling on a pair of speakers, because you MAY overlook the ones that got away, the one's that will blow you away when you hear them.
@donjaun540
@donjaun540 Ай бұрын
The Evo made my TV shake with bass and sounded better. 😁😉
@pascachi
@pascachi 4 жыл бұрын
The Evo 4.2 sweet sounding and balance.
@classicrock7890
@classicrock7890 4 жыл бұрын
Much prefer the Evo 4.2. Just a fuller more musical sound. Have the Evo 4.4 which are only £200 more than KEF in UK. Really no competition.
@avalarf1
@avalarf1 4 жыл бұрын
Wharfedales all the way. Better base and a more even sound than the forward, bright sound of the Kefs. I also prefer a warmer sound. I have purchased the 4.2’s and would do the same based on this comparison. Thank you for a great demo.
@aarons915
@aarons915 4 жыл бұрын
The meta aren't forward like the original ls50, a coaxial arrangement also sounds more natural in my opinion.
@youtubegarbage7876
@youtubegarbage7876 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell hard is it to spell "bass" for you idiots?
@hong-enlin4651
@hong-enlin4651 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the old Evo II about 3 or 4 years ago, I got swindled 700 USD for the pair due to lack of research (the new Evo 4 was already out) but I picked it over the new Diamond 10. Anyway I picked it for the warmth smoothness and soundstage, the speaker was not exciting and the imaging was ok but the it makes every bad recording sound good.
@archiemacdonald553
@archiemacdonald553 3 жыл бұрын
this is my next speakers.tharbamer evos 4.2 .beautifully finished .love your videos .😊😊😊
@alvin23571
@alvin23571 4 жыл бұрын
This time Kef produced well define bass while Evo produced over hang bass full of resonance! It was so surprised!
@ctr289
@ctr289 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know it's not the room modes? The Evo go lower in frequency and so they can excite room modes that the Kef can't, and room modes reverberate.
@davidt3814
@davidt3814 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, where can we find these very pretty acoustic panels ? Please 👋
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take the KEF's. Thank you.
@rhonahill7750
@rhonahill7750 3 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale great speakers and for the people that want good music quality at a affordable price without costing the earth
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thanks
@DuragVince-
@DuragVince- 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to do all of this work. Where would the Klipsch RP600-M fair in all of this?
@kendoglarson5419
@kendoglarson5419 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard Wharfedale before, but speak they have. These are as good as they are acclaimed to be.
@shereewhite1710
@shereewhite1710 4 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale are from the UK and have been around for more than 80+ years. I like their speakers, generally understated, and good all-around sound. Not the fanciest stuff, but GOOD quality and GOOD sounding! The are are also reputable for the budget conscience listener.
@Miguel8131981
@Miguel8131981 4 жыл бұрын
KEF R3 vs Wharfedale EVO 4.2 if you can in the future. That would be interesting.
@kevinweber5129
@kevinweber5129 4 жыл бұрын
I waiting for R3 Meta as it will have more bass than LS50
@tombillard5264
@tombillard5264 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinweber5129 me too was already a 5 star giant killer at 2k
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinweber5129 are there really any plans to realese the KEF R3 metas?
@richm4402
@richm4402 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinweber5129 it already does
@patriots7111
@patriots7111 4 жыл бұрын
The Wharfdale just sounds a little veiled. KZbin demos just can’t highlight what these can do in person 🎶🔊.
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Based on this comparison I'd say the KEF's are more detailed.
@crazyME456
@crazyME456 3 жыл бұрын
its the bass. it goes deep and wide. its not earth shaking or screaming for attention. but its everywhere. a lot may like it. some may won't. it does make the music sound fuller and more spread out the room.
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
Veiled... on the 4.2... thats a good one... Lmfao!!!
@Sc2God724
@Sc2God724 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going have a speaker stand and use it as your mains might as well have towers
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
I have too many speakers, please see my latest video, thanks
@johnnyaxelsson6666
@johnnyaxelsson6666 Жыл бұрын
Kef have done a great work whit just one cone speaker.... But the wharfdale have a better more open sound.. Its not fair to judge a 3.way against a 1.way speaker... If want a smal cheaper then is the kef what you go after.. Thanks for the session 👍🙏
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Жыл бұрын
KEF is Two way speaker.
@McgarickWAstate
@McgarickWAstate Жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you! How far from the back wall do the Evos have to be? thanks!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar Жыл бұрын
If I remember it right it’s about a little over 3ft, thanks
@yo_g72
@yo_g72 4 жыл бұрын
Just heard the ATC SCM19 v2 bookshelf speakers. Would love to hear your thoughts on those and an audio comparison/sound demo, if you can get your hands them.
@Cooliewhistles
@Cooliewhistles 4 жыл бұрын
Were they amazing? For 4k a pair they better be close
@johnlong9862
@johnlong9862 4 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale EVO 4.2 the music embraces you. KEF LS 50 Meta the music confronts you.
@wolfgangkemmann9073
@wolfgangkemmann9073 4 жыл бұрын
Zwei tolle Lautsprecher!
@jm-vq4cm
@jm-vq4cm 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, just a brief and opinion. When you happen to compare the bass, in a generalized matter you refer to it as merely 'Better bass response', meaning your reference partly based on response graphs. However, this description is about bass is not complete IMO. Attack, speed, articulation and clarity is often overlooked and to me these qualities are priority when choosing a speaker. Maybe an the future I would love to see you describe speakers bass response in these perspectives too. Cheers.
@cybergod77
@cybergod77 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda prefer the KEFs actually for it's better highs and airier sounding + well defined bass
@masterchef6694
@masterchef6694 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison between kef r3 and Evo 4.2? I know the let R3 is twice the price but it would be really interesting. As usual the review was very well structured and detailed.
@2mikelim
@2mikelim 3 жыл бұрын
Price doesn't control quality of sound. Technology does. The ribbon beats all conventional tweeters
@streamnoremorse
@streamnoremorse 3 жыл бұрын
Kef R3 have no bass. Evo 4.2 too
@awwbollocksthen1359
@awwbollocksthen1359 4 жыл бұрын
At the moment I'm in the middle of auditioning ls50 s and even though there impressive, I don't think I'm able to listen to them for long periods of time (too bright) but to be honest I think I'll end up sending them back because I prefer speakers where I'm able to listen to my music for hours on end!. I enjoyed this video so thanks for posting and by the way your English is better than mine but the funny thing is English is my first language! Lol
@owen-ng8oe
@owen-ng8oe 4 жыл бұрын
i hear that, evo better since not fatiguing
@Cooliewhistles
@Cooliewhistles 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have the original or meta ??
@awwbollocksthen1359
@awwbollocksthen1359 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cooliewhistles the KEF ls50 originals! If you click on the cat you can actually hear how bright there are especially compared to my other standmounts.....
@richarddavis1025
@richarddavis1025 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Evo 4.2. They are a little warmer sounding for all listening in my opinion. I have them paired with a Simaudio moon 240i integrated and they sound killer. I did have them running off my Marantz before i got the moon integrated and sound was too warm. The evo are a more warm sounding speaker. The moon is very natural.
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 4 жыл бұрын
I’m on the KEF train. I think if you pair them with a nice sub it would be damn near perfect for me
@stanleysmith3706
@stanleysmith3706 3 жыл бұрын
kef kc62 for looks and sound
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleysmith3706 it does look nice but I have like a 30 x 20 room with vaulted ceilings so I fear it’s too small for my space
@stanleysmith3706
@stanleysmith3706 3 жыл бұрын
@@pmizz7959 than both of these bookshelf speaker is also too small for ur space
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleysmith3706 doesn’t feel that way when I am listening to them. Oh well. It’s what I got now. Happy with them
@stanleysmith3706
@stanleysmith3706 3 жыл бұрын
@@pmizz7959 i am still listening to a very old a pair of b&w 602 s3 so you ahve better ,newer gears than me
@chenqixue8151
@chenqixue8151 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would have been the outcome if the Metas had been paired with a Marantz amp. I pair mine with PM12SE a warm sounding amp. The brightness in highs isn’t detectable as much. Metas need very careful pairing choices - powerful and warm sounding. For that I’d give the edge to the Evos since they are much easier to live with (no need of a sub either).
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you but you don’t know how PMA-SX11 sound, my main speaker is KEF R11 there is no brightness whatsoever paring with them, Meta is good but not great for everyone sensitive to bright sound, thanks
@chenqixue8151
@chenqixue8151 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar I think the main problem with the Metas is they are hard to drive. They aren’t real 8om speakers. To get good sound out of them, you need an amp doubling or tripling the price. I ended up driving them using my main amp (Diablo 300). They sound much better but then what’s the point?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
@@chenqixue8151 Denon PMA-SX11 is more powerful than you may think, it can deliver 240 amp of current when is needed, not many power amps can deliver that kind of current and power rating is way under rated as well.
@chenqixue8151
@chenqixue8151 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar do you recommend spending more than ifi on power cord? My research seems to suggest good shielding is important. Other factors are more a change in tonic characteristics. I’m a little tempted to give high end cables a try but wanted to consult you
@benjaminqilafku5714
@benjaminqilafku5714 4 жыл бұрын
Evo 4.2 are in my short list. I am torn between them or Dentons, modern vs classical look, tips are welcomed.
@wim1983
@wim1983 4 жыл бұрын
So far Denton 80th is better for me (treble a little bit better, bass tonal balance is greater), feel that there is a flaw design to the bass driver of Evo 4.2 (never like phase port, limited elasticity), it's kinda same situation to me there is a flaw tweeter design to Denton 85th & Linton.
@madazmi
@madazmi 4 жыл бұрын
@@wim1983 same goes to me. Denton 80th so far serves me well. However different person has different preference. Overall i think Denton is warmer and laid back. Non fatigue.
@MrSplit57
@MrSplit57 4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, great review as always! Based on your review I bought Evo4.2 and couldn’t be happier! Very well made and sound is great! One thing is bothering me: Regarding the phase plug on the woofer, you said (and show) that it is real phase plug, but on my Evo phase plug is moving with cone!? Can you please investigate, did wharfedale change woofer in recent production of Evo4.2?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Your question is only Whatfedale can answer, thanks
@topmotorrevolution2128
@topmotorrevolution2128 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. The cone is moving.
@MrSplit57
@MrSplit57 4 жыл бұрын
TopMotor Revolution Good! Not that I’m complaining - I’m just curious! More than satisfy with performance of Evo 4.2
@DomRivers67
@DomRivers67 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they did change them, they found a few more Hz depth by coupling the cone to the diaphragm and allowing freer movement
@AlexDavidChristian
@AlexDavidChristian 9 ай бұрын
Hello @Tharbamar! I really appreciate your content. I have a question. I really did appreciate the evos combined with my denon pma2010AE. I just wanted to go up a knotch in the quality of my sound and some people recomended me to get better speakers. So I sold the evos and i still have the same amp. What speakers do you think would bring more value to this amp, above the evos, in the 2k price range? I will mention that I paid around 500$ for the evos in my country. So they aren't as expensive as in the US. Also, I am listening to all kinds of music. I am the kind of person who appreciates the feeling that a song gives you, so I don't have a fav genere, to say so. Thank you and I wish you the best!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 9 ай бұрын
I would suggest you to try B&W 706 S3/705 S2, KEF R3 Meta or R3 and KLH Model 3 should pair well with the amplifier you have, thanks
@AlexDavidChristian
@AlexDavidChristian 9 ай бұрын
@@Tharbamar If i could get the r7 for 2k, you would recomend them over the metas? I have the space for them.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 9 ай бұрын
Sure Meta is just slightly better in details.
@arhauz9719
@arhauz9719 3 жыл бұрын
KEF LS50 is very nice but kinda high in base and sibilance. At first KEF wins but in long listening...I can last better with Wharfedale Evo. Balance...sweet sound, no extra just good sounding, good musicality overall. IMHO.
@54tristin
@54tristin 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite reviewer
@UnhingedBecauseLucid
@UnhingedBecauseLucid 4 жыл бұрын
From what I hear through my 6xx, the LS50 Meta seems much more resolving in the lower mids and mids ... They don't go as low but none of these are truly full range. But add a pair of sealed subs and the LS50 Meta system becomes a really thoroughly resolving system without much wholes in the frequency response.
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.
@r423fplip
@r423fplip 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are both crap ! They would drive me nuts !
@devinjohnson3943
@devinjohnson3943 3 жыл бұрын
You don't want to mix vented and sealed due to phase incoherence
@georgepopescu1327
@georgepopescu1327 3 жыл бұрын
@@r423fplip well when I heard the female voice it was over for me, both have sibilance problems
@p.damascene6462
@p.damascene6462 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate for video! Evo 4.2 sounds better for me.
@milagroscaviglia5034
@milagroscaviglia5034 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Tharbamar!!what's your opinion about Mission's loudspeakers?specially TVE QX-2??? Thanks!
@SoundRoomByKrzysztof
@SoundRoomByKrzysztof 3 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍👍👍
@armerschluca2576
@armerschluca2576 4 жыл бұрын
The KEFs sound a bit more forwarding, warmer and more pricise in midrange. I like the sound of the KEFs a little better but i would never pay 500$ more. They are way too overpriced. Normal LS50s are on sale for about 600€ all the time here in Germany. 1500$ for the Meta is not a fair deal
@piotrmozdzen9143
@piotrmozdzen9143 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@Rebel5406
@Rebel5406 4 жыл бұрын
600€ all the time? WHERE exactly?
@armerschluca2576
@armerschluca2576 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rebel5406 Actually not exactly 600€ but for 666€ all the time but they are often at sale
@rushgush
@rushgush 3 жыл бұрын
you can say your clothes are over priced. your 20 dollar t shirt cost what? like 1 dollar to make...
@Prometheus574
@Prometheus574 3 жыл бұрын
KEF all made in China nowadays
@cinqo7
@cinqo7 2 жыл бұрын
If you could, being that both are great speakers, would you keep both speakers in your listening room without having to choose the best of both? One week or month, eg. you would hear the EVOs and then the next week or month the LS50 Metas? Is it a wise choice or a senseless one?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
I understand your thoughts, which I do as well but I would suggest you to try just KEF R3 for the better sound, frequency response and power handling, thanks
@junflores7143
@junflores7143 2 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner to this hobby. Maybe because I am nearing my retirement and can now spend more leisure time. I am so attracted to this Evo 4.2 especially with how you described them. I am planning a simple 3.1 setup. It will be for movies and music. What AVR do you suggest with a 3.1 setup on Evo 4.2? Thanks in advance and more power to your channel.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
I would try something from Yamaha or Denon to pair with Evo series, thank you.
@frankieknuckles9610
@frankieknuckles9610 4 жыл бұрын
Evo more balanced sound from top to bottom. Would not be fatigued as quickly.
@marknickells6097
@marknickells6097 10 ай бұрын
Quality wise. I have read multiple reviews, and the people, have mentioned, THE EVO gets a bit cranky, and tone of of the speaker changes over time. What would be your concerns,? I am moving from a B%W 685 set to these. Am I gaining, or losing anything in the process? Thanks for your advice, in advance. > Mark
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 10 ай бұрын
Here is better buy Marvelous Polk Audio Reserve R200 Speaker Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5zaaZRqbs2pndk
@РоманЧеркалин-х7ц
@РоманЧеркалин-х7ц 2 жыл бұрын
Жаль,что на канале нет дубляжа или хотя бы русских субтитров,так же очень хочется почитать комментарии,интересно мнение окружающих.
@starskykrasnodar2764
@starskykrasnodar2764 10 ай бұрын
привет! открываешь яндекс переводчик, потом копировать-вставить и т.д.)
@best_sound
@best_sound 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting test. The Wharfedale Evo 4.2 has a cleaner sound. The KEF acoustics constantly have a low-frequency hum. Wharfedale is certainly the best.
@Ewoodster
@Ewoodster 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely both sound exaclty like my Beoplay H9 Gen 3 headset which I am just wearing.
@Ewoodster
@Ewoodster 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyIDIsNotAvailable Sems like someone didn‘t get the joke
@matthewpool494
@matthewpool494 4 жыл бұрын
I think your room really works with the meta... Must be nice there I get some crazy imaging even here remotely... Compare LS50 and LS50 meta in that room?
@gordthor5351
@gordthor5351 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Pool I'm sure the placement is harming the sound from the Metas. With such a curved baffle the LS 50s need room to breath and since the Metas are behind Evos, that early bounce off the Evos has to mess up the balance and overall sound quality. He does a great job in his comparisons and it would be a hassle to move speakers every time he switched, so I not complaining. I just know from experience how finicky the LS 50s are, but when you get it right it makes a huge difference.
@matthewpool494
@matthewpool494 4 жыл бұрын
@@gordthor5351 Wow. They sound really good even with that placement. I definitely want to hear them in person some day. I've had R3's for a couple years now and just recently set up a Q150 nearfield desk setup which I love! I'm definitely KEF fan!
@terrycard6775
@terrycard6775 4 жыл бұрын
Evo for me
@majicogarcia8417
@majicogarcia8417 3 ай бұрын
They both sound nice and open but the wharfedale has better/more accurate midbass and deeper bass. The best version of the KEF though is the Active Wireless version.
@timothymountain7868
@timothymountain7868 Жыл бұрын
The ls50's definitely got that punch down over the warfdale. At least in this medium.
@boogeyratt
@boogeyratt 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the video cutting off at 12:26? =\
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
I had to cut the end part due to copyright issues.
@morayjames92
@morayjames92 3 жыл бұрын
did you bolt your met to the stands using the available inserts? This has a dramatic impact upon the SQ of the LS50 Meta.
@r423fplip
@r423fplip 3 жыл бұрын
Meta and Mqa, the saviour of music, if you believe the hype !!!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Meta tech is great for noise reducing, MQA just new version of louder equalized music.
@r423fplip
@r423fplip 3 жыл бұрын
Never liked the sound of the Kef ls50.
@wim1983
@wim1983 4 жыл бұрын
Great, like your honest comments, especially how unforgiving the speakers are, as some people mentioned here the Evo 4.2 sounded veiled especially on the bass tonal balance, matter of fact I prefer my Denton 80th on overall integrated sound, I kinda agree with them, but I'm not 100% sure yet, I will see how it sound again to match with detailed & transparent amp like NAD M22 power amp.
@velez7777
@velez7777 3 жыл бұрын
What is the color name and brand of that green wall you have behind?
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 4 жыл бұрын
Need to hear those KEF's in person but I really like the openess of them. That cello sounded like it was in the room while the Evo sounded like it was still coming from the box imo. I might have to see which KEF I can afford.
@Janiko_L
@Janiko_L 4 жыл бұрын
I fell like its the opposite, the kef pushed the cello forward, while the evos displayed it as it would sound in person Just my view :)
@nivektek2681
@nivektek2681 3 жыл бұрын
Which is good sound comes in gaming-watching movies-listening rock music and r&b songs?✌️
@bareknuckles2u
@bareknuckles2u 4 жыл бұрын
At first it was the KEFs for me, but after a few back and forths the Wharfdales took it for me.
@tgyuri2003
@tgyuri2003 3 жыл бұрын
in P1 the Kef`s bass it`s out of this world. evo -1
@pawefredd7994
@pawefredd7994 3 жыл бұрын
Did the reviewer or anyone else listen to the Evo 4.2 bi-wiring connected? Then what are the pros and cons compared to single wire connection?
@EmanueleQuintorio
@EmanueleQuintorio 4 жыл бұрын
hello I am writing to you from Italy, do you think you will ever make a comparison between the Evo 4 and the Reva-2? They have a very similar price but different philosophies. What do you think about it?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I no longer have Reva 2 to compare with, personally I like Evo 4.2 more than Reva 2.Thanks
@EmanueleQuintorio
@EmanueleQuintorio 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar thank you for answering me. I have Diamond 10.2, that are a little too loud for my "near field" listening. They are very close to the wall and become fatiguing to listen. do you think I can go better with Reva 2? Thanks
@panblue43
@panblue43 4 жыл бұрын
@@EmanueleQuintorio Hi! I had diamonds 10.2 loved them but: when I used them with entry-level amp they were perfect. Then I changed to a mid class amp what has wider sounstage, more and fuller bass at the edge.. and what happened? The 10.2s could not pumped out the bass clearly, became muddy, heavy, unlistenable. I done everything, pulled far from walls etc. Unfortunetly at the end needed to change the loudspeakers also to mid-premium category. Now no muddy or heavy bass just clear and smooth deep bass without forcing/stressed sound. You need front bass reflex loudspeakers or some good closed box. Best regards.
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 4 жыл бұрын
OB dipoles FTW, start thinking outside the box and ask Santa for a pair of Spatial M3 Sapphires
@mickywes3733
@mickywes3733 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was saving pennies for M3 Saphires then wife decided she didn’t like M3 finish options so she authorized X5’s nutmeg finish!!! :o)
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 4 жыл бұрын
​@@mickywes3733 Oh swoon, nice. I have last years M3 Triode Masters where the 3d theatre soundstage is worth every penny
@sc0or
@sc0or 4 жыл бұрын
Due to a physical implementation, ribbon tweeters like in Evo, work perfect only in a close field. When you sit quite distant, you have to add 5-10dB to them. This is why the best configuration in case of Evo 4.2 would be an active crossover with a gain control, and tri-amping (what I'm going to build soon -)
@MrSplit57
@MrSplit57 4 жыл бұрын
sc0or whould bi-amping help anything for the amt tweeter?
@sc0or
@sc0or 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSplit57 bi-amping allows to use an amp that matches a speaker at 100% (fr, output impedance, feedback type, gain, etc).. In all cases multi-amping can provide better results than just passive filters. With no exceptions.
@juanmillaruelo7647
@juanmillaruelo7647 4 жыл бұрын
Funny. I was thinking along those lines. If Wharfedale decided to builf something like the Burchardt 500 they have all the parts.
@richarddavis1025
@richarddavis1025 3 жыл бұрын
These are not ribbon tweeters and don't sound like them either. They are air motion tweeters which is a different implementation. Google to find out more information.
@sc0or
@sc0or 3 жыл бұрын
@@richarddavis1025 Thanks. I cannot find any info about drives used with Evo 4.2. And AMT has about the same sound radiation pattern as ribbon tweeters have.
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