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Quad S2 vs.B&W 706 S2 Speakers

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Tharbamar

Tharbamar

Күн бұрын

Quad S2: Refinement, Musical Sound.
Price: $899 (August, 2020) MSRP: $1195.
706 S2: Dynamic, Spacious Sound.
Price: $2000 (August, 2020)
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1:33 Sound Quality
10:18 Quad S2 (Sound Sample)
11:06 B&W 706 S2 (Sound Sample)
11:54 Quad S2 (Sound Sample)
16:13 B&W 706 S2 (Sound Sample)

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@giangvu7902
@giangvu7902 4 жыл бұрын
I love it when you described the speakers as "timeless". That's a very elegant way to describe its sound signature.
@chrislynch8914
@chrislynch8914 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, you're videos are an ABSOLUTE pleasure to watch. So very informative and so well done. I enjoy all of them, whether I agree with you or not.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@andrewwebb4635
@andrewwebb4635 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the Quad - it’s much more balanced. Thank you for your interesting reviews and revealing demonstrations.
@nc3419
@nc3419 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the Quads for a couple weeks and have put some hours on it. Have watched movies as well as listened to music. In comparison, I used Focal 807Ws to determine strengths, weaknesses, preferences using a Hegel h-160, a SoundArtist SA-200IA and an inexpensive but good performing class D amp. In a nutshell I suppose, the strengths of the Quad S-2 using any of the amps with varying degrees of SQ according to each amps capabilities, the Quads depict voice and instrument playback with pinpoint accuracy, think 20/10 vision vs 20/20 or so. The Focals have always been more focused in this regard to other sub $1000 speakers but the Quads seem to have more precision in outlining voice and instruments. Probably instrument separation was close as I didn't notice a big difference. Now the accuracy does come at a price, with the Hegel, the Focals are smooth, forward with some depth and dimensionality and are quite euphonic. All of which I like and qualities which draw me into the music. With the Hegel, the Quads were smooth but presented a drier, flatter soundstage. While perhaps more accurate, the presentation was a bit smaller but that flatness was unappealing to me. Perhaps there are audiophiles that prefer this presentation but not me. A previous review alluded to this as well in comparison to mid tier Wharfedales. Moving to the SoundArtisit, a lower tier class AB amp, the SQ of both speakers were affected to some degree but not enough to prove useless. I would say this amp was not a good match for the Focals as the upper mids and highs stood out more than the bass and lower mids (amp wise) making the Focals too bright and unbalanced (the amp itself should be described this way). I think this particular amp, while refined for the price is too unbalanced across frequencies. However, on the Quads, they added some life, some sparkle they were missing on the Hegel. I wouldn't say they escaped their 2-D soundstage, they just sounded a bit more exciting which they really needed to. I think people may like the Quads a bit better on brighter amps as opposed to darker, but that's my own speculation. Perhaps the Denon accentuates the highs? Also to note, I found the Quads very enjoyable watching movies with the added clarity enhancing speech, non-musical micro details as well as soundtracks. I won't say they were always better than my Focals, just different as both present fine definition. I might like some things better on the Quads as well as some things better on the Focals. But for speech, the Quads do it very well. So the biggest difference is regarding music playback. I would say the Quads are missing something that brings out one's emotions when listening to music. It could be for me at least, they are too dry and analytical as they seem to fail to draw me into the musical experience. With the Focals, I always seem to just stop what I'm doing as they captivate attention and present a very emotional experience for me. The Focals "may" be less accurate, transparent,. etc., in comparison to the Quads but the Quads are just not as enjoyable to listen to. Now, on a cheap little class D, the Focals are still a very nice speaker but dynamics suffer the most. So large differences between micro details and larger sounds aren't as great. Probably similar with the Quads but the Quads still sounded good on class D. You are giving up some dynamics and refinement with a cheaper class D but I did prefer it to the SoundArtist at 8X the price. The SoundArtist went back as it wasn't up to expectations but probably typical for its' price point. Still, on class D, I preferred my Focals to the Quads with music even though the Quads provide more refinement with voice and instruments. The Quads just don't draw me into the music. For strictly movies, either is fine but for music, I think the Quads are sensitive to finding the right amp or may be fine for someone who prefers accuracy while accepting a more 2-D soundstage, less excitement, less emotion perhaps? Also, when I get close, in between my Focals the tweeter/woofer remain very cohesive and it sounds like you are wearing headphones. Some speakers do this, some don't. The Quads don't. It's like there's a bit of a disconnect between drivers. I don't think the Quads would work well in nearfield. Also, the Quads don't disappear int the room as well as the Focals do but they should given they have a smaller woofer...a trait which some say exists. So, there's a perspective you can take with a few grains of salt. I think the Quads are talented in some things but fail to draw me into a musical experience even though I do like the highly defined quality of how voice and instruments are presented. As one who always preferred a more analytical sound, they are just too much so and kind of boring to me. Fine for movies, really fine but lacking with music only. I guess, there's a coloration or presentation I prefer that makes a speaker sound "musical". I've noticed this quality in other speakers as well. I probably would less prefer a studio monitor although I wouldn't place the Quads in this category. With a 5 inch woofer, an amp that really grips with strong bass might not be best either. While expensive amps are overkill for the above speakers used, the Hegel and Focals are a great match. The Hegel may be OK with the Quads but with a set of Triangle Zetas I have, the mids get too muddled. The Triangles and the cheap class D are a nice match. Seems speakers with paper woofers like class D amps. I think the Quads do well with either class D or A/B amps with not to high damping factors. It's just for me, they lack some emotional engagement with music. Lastly, there is no perfect speaker, the Quads are detailed and accurate, a set of Monitor Audios had very nice tonality for piano decay, very natural, the Focals give enough and give up little not being the best in everything but have enough to give me what I need. Can I get "more" of the same with improvements where needed? I think we all try to do that but at some point I guess you accept that what you have is good enough. If the music captivates you, you are on the right track. No perfect speaker, no one way to enjoy music. Happy listening.
@edolina1
@edolina1 3 жыл бұрын
Based on your review I've bought a pair of Quads and they are every bit of what you've said about them. It's been a month now and I enjoy them more and more each day. Thanks for a great and honest review.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy! Thank you.
@itsmorphed6416
@itsmorphed6416 3 жыл бұрын
Both sounding good . The b&w moved me with the second track . Really felt the emotion .
@BongEyedBastard
@BongEyedBastard 3 жыл бұрын
Had my Quad S2's for around 30 months and paired with a Naim Uniti Atom I'm ecstatic, they sound *phenomenal*. Toyed with the idea of trading them in for the new Kef LS50 Meta's but swiftly thought nah, why should I? The Quads sound that good. £600 well spent.
@nexus4googleplay612
@nexus4googleplay612 4 жыл бұрын
Like the punchier bass of the B&Ws, but as soon as you go to vocals, the Quads are clear and the B&Ws are very sibilant.
@Alex55555
@Alex55555 3 жыл бұрын
The B&Ws have a more 'impressive' sound with boosted treble and slightly bumped up bass. But the Quads sound just so natural... especially in the mids.
@MsIrah463
@MsIrah463 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Yeolde777
@Yeolde777 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Quad's sound soft and way too bass heavy
@darpanbhuyan1909
@darpanbhuyan1909 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yeolde777 - Quite the contrary. Their treble stands out and more prominent than the KEF Q350s, Wharfedale Evo 4.2s and BOstons Acoustics A26 that i have. Can be unforgiving with poor sources.
@MusiGig
@MusiGig 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most accurate and honest review I have ever seen.. keep it up mate!
@mgsee
@mgsee 4 жыл бұрын
The vocals on the Mona Lisa track are more expressive on the B&Ws, they just seem to me to be the more dynamic and musically communicative speaker overall. However, the top end is a bit sharp compared to the smoother sounding Quads. A great demo as usual.
@dixienormous2440
@dixienormous2440 2 жыл бұрын
'Mona Lisa' sound like a soft cool breeze on a summer's day with the Quad's, very nice. So effortless and natural sounding.
@alvin23571
@alvin23571 4 жыл бұрын
Yes now I’m using Quad S2 piano finishing, pairing with tube amp kt88 triode mode very musical can listen the whole day!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Great choice!
@tranhuynhgiao2337
@tranhuynhgiao2337 3 жыл бұрын
I use a pair of 22l2 as the front speaker in the cinema speaker system. When the scene had a dog barking, my whole family suddenly looked around because I thought there was a neighbor's dog barking. Prove that these speakers reproduce extremely realistic sound.
@lockness3723
@lockness3723 3 жыл бұрын
Quad for me. Less bright on the treble and more natural sounding.
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 4 жыл бұрын
Wow small drivers can sound very accurate but the B&W mid/bass sounded a little fuller
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely would have the bigger output from the larger driver, more excursion and the large port.
@genaishivatov1737
@genaishivatov1737 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Quad S2 in Mona Lisa sound more natural, and guitar strings.
@HauntedAbysss
@HauntedAbysss 3 жыл бұрын
From my back and forthers...You can barely tell but the BW can do more. It's a tiny bit fuller on both ends I'd say extended. It's a tiny low in the mids but.. wow.... Both are unbelievable. Wish I could be there for myself to feel the bass.
@sweetsilage
@sweetsilage 2 жыл бұрын
I always come to you for sound tests - thank you very much
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
The B&WS are 4 dB louder in the brightness region. It would be interesting to see the off axis response.
@jezmink
@jezmink Ай бұрын
Excellent review, I like the Quad S2 very much, they have something special clarity, detail and yes you are right vocals are beautiful.
@jeffadams9699
@jeffadams9699 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE try an S5! Would love to hear your opinion. Known the S2 and absolutely LOVE it!
@hi-fihaven2257
@hi-fihaven2257 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you man! Both sets of those speakers are gorgeous! Great commentary as usual. Have a great day!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@JoaoSilva-nm3us
@JoaoSilva-nm3us 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed 706 seems more harsh and the S2 more natural. Maybe with warmer amps the 706 may work a bit better.
@ericov.o.2399
@ericov.o.2399 4 жыл бұрын
That ribbon looks exactly like a fountek, not complaining though i think they're great
@windymiller6908
@windymiller6908 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently the ribbon is a specially designed for Quad and is very probably made by Fountek to Quad specs. Unlike other ribbon tweeters it extends to just 22khz probably to minimise any harshness.
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
Both very good speakers. Even if B&W beats Quad it seems marginally given the greater disparity in price. So many choices between 1 and 2 grand...that's a good thing.
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
@RasheedKhan-he6xx 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you I am very intrigued by the Quad S2. Unfortunately its not currently available in Germany. I would think that a fairer match to the B&W 700 series would be Quad's Z series. In terms of each manufacturer's entry level series the S pitches against B&W's corresponding 600 S2 Anniversary series so its impressive that it managed to hold its own here. I would request that you review a Z series speaker as your next Quad. It would be more interesting than doing another S.
@leszo2
@leszo2 Жыл бұрын
It is perfect match as they sit in the same price range. Z2 are double in price
@giannislarch
@giannislarch Жыл бұрын
Hello. Very good presentation as always. I like that you keep a level of quality and gentle in all of your reviews. Good to see someone who is no persist.. or trying to convince others to agree with him, etc. Maybe it's a matter of character! Keep going this way.. Thank you very much!
@maximo90019
@maximo90019 4 жыл бұрын
How many years has it been? What a journey it’s been to arrive at the Quads. I saw the ribbon tweeters and nearly ran but thought I’d check in for a Saturday night listen, and I am so glad I did. As always, thanks for the sharing and making the journey worthwhile
@net_news
@net_news 4 жыл бұрын
wow they sound AMAZING!
@guerilla_garage
@guerilla_garage 2 жыл бұрын
Great ballance between talking and sound testing on this channel, youtubers who just talk without giving a sound test should be muted and then their reviews will be complete ;) Once again excellent comparison Tharbamar !
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mati7029
@mati7029 3 жыл бұрын
The Quad S2 nicer highs
@glynhall301
@glynhall301 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic sound on both Speakers wow.
@Revelator2025
@Revelator2025 3 жыл бұрын
Both nice sounding loudspeakers but that B&W sibilants! Deal-breaker. Vocals on S2, fantastic.
@josevaldez1554
@josevaldez1554 3 жыл бұрын
The quads take my 1st place ribbon.
@TheNewsBaaz
@TheNewsBaaz 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Am already a fan of S2. Would love to see your comparision of S2 with wharfedale evo 4.2, particularly in mid range, musicality and bass response. Thanks.
@dedskin1
@dedskin1 3 жыл бұрын
I am as well , waht i want to know is how they fair against classic Studio Monitors , Active . To see if 2000$ is worth it or you get same performance on a studio monitor of about 500-1000
@Miguel8131981
@Miguel8131981 4 жыл бұрын
B&W for me. The Quads are really nicely balanced though. I like them both.
@darpanbhuyan1909
@darpanbhuyan1909 4 жыл бұрын
Great Review! I have the Quad S5s and its all the goodness of the Quad S2 on a grander scale! It would be great if you got it and reviewed it as well! Coincidentally, I was doing an A &B (& C) comparison between the KEF Q350s, Evo 4.2s (as i had purchased new stands) and the Quad S5s today (obviously not on stands). I never cease to be amazed at how incredible the S5s sound (despite having had them for over 2 years now), especially after a quick switch from the other two speakers.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Quad speakers need more attention, many people were missing out from great sounding speakers.
@FlowithdaGo
@FlowithdaGo 4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar Also Piega Classic deserve more attention. Excellent speakers with a sweet, detailed, refined and full bloodied sound. I have Piega Classic 7.0. They outclassed all others I listen to and borrowed home, like the B&W 704 S2 which I liked but they just didn't reach anywhere near the level of the Piega's.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I will try them in the future.
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I really don't like which alot of speaker companies have adapted is the silverish ring outlining the drivers.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Me neither, I preferred design like Quad S2.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 4 жыл бұрын
You could probably cover that carefully with a marker and tape to stop colour outside the lines.
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
@@RennieAsh One could, but the point is that it was a bad design idea to begin with.
@captgugu741
@captgugu741 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a practical review and comparison. I just bought the quad s2 used from another gentleman and the only thing that worries me is the Amplifier matching. I have a pair of 20yr old Cary audio cinema 1 ss monoblocks. I hope they pair well 🤞🏼
@jm-vq4cm
@jm-vq4cm 3 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, I see the Quads have become quite your standard speaker for comparison as you are putting it aside the likes of this B&W, Ls50 Meta, Evo 4.2. So I believe you see them as really great speakers indeed. I'm trying to decide between getting the Evo 4.4 and Quad S5. What would you pick? Thanks
@onoshin333
@onoshin333 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my Optimus Linaeum with ribbon tweeters. If I upgrade, I would chose Quad S2!
@DavidSandoval1229
@DavidSandoval1229 4 жыл бұрын
As always, an excellent review. Thank you for doing these, very helpful. I’m curious, have you had a chance to listen to the Klipsch Fives? I’d like to know what you think of those. Thanks again.
@filipviljamaasvensson
@filipviljamaasvensson 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting how the voice sounds flat and unengaging on the 706 after the S2. I may order the S2 tonight, final re-checking of reviews and sound samples now :) Upgrading from B&W 685. Exciting times! But since no one will read this, I guess it doesn't matter... haha
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy! Thanks
@filipviljamaasvensson
@filipviljamaasvensson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thank you Tharbamar! And I just placed the order. I very much like your unbiased and thorough approach to reviewing and informing. Keep up the great work :)
@LuisCardoso-bo8yx
@LuisCardoso-bo8yx 4 жыл бұрын
On these recordings I prefer the S2. Perhaps that’s not surprising, as I have a pair of Quad Z1s myself :) Since there are very few Quad Z series reviews around, may I suggest that you try the Z series instead of another S Series?
@Alan_Mac
@Alan_Mac 3 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion. I fancy a pair of Z1s but you don't read much about them.
@LuisCardoso-bo8yx
@LuisCardoso-bo8yx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alan_Mac I sold mine then bought the Z2s, then the MA PL100IIs and ended up with ATC for a more true to the source sound. There are two reviews online, I believe: one from sound and vision and another by sound “sinc” (both for the Z1 - it’s even harder to find one on the Z2s).
@sergev9043
@sergev9043 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to quad bw sounds so synthetic!
@Cherrytea558
@Cherrytea558 3 жыл бұрын
The Quads destroy the B&W's. The vocals and top end is so much smoother and airy at least over KZbin.
@paulbruce3779
@paulbruce3779 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I do prefer the B&W but do like the idea of a folded ribbon. Keep up the awesome content. P.S - love your sound demos👌
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 4 жыл бұрын
Quad Z4 on sale at Underwood Hifi distributor for 4K - given how well this S2 fits your sound preferences and how good your amp is, these top of the line floorstanders could be the end game ticket. 4K for a potentially elite speaker is a bargain IMHO. Wish I could have paid that instead of 7K for my B&W 804 D3s!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Z4 will be very good choice, what I love about Quad S2 is makes me forget about reviewing the product, I just kept on listening 3-4 albums continuously, wonderful little speaker.
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar yes the Z4 could be killer, but no dealer in my city carries quad as far as i can tell. Btw are you going to keep buying bookshelves or is your ultimate speaker going to be a floorstander?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
All of these are samples, I will be trying some towers in the future, thanks
@milosevicbojan07
@milosevicbojan07 4 жыл бұрын
Quad sound more linear, natural
@ateksudianto6237
@ateksudianto6237 2 жыл бұрын
I like the vocal in B&W 706 S2, little bit bold and spacious compare to Quad S2, but the treble is little bit peak, make the guitar distored
@prashanth14485
@prashanth14485 4 жыл бұрын
@Tharbamar Can you review the Dynaudio Special 40. Better yet, a comparison with B&W 705 S2?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
May be in the future, thanks
@ludointhemix
@ludointhemix 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you man for all of your reviews ! Perfect job ! Do you know PIEGA speakers ?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I do but I have not tried them in my system, thanks
@tweakradje
@tweakradje 4 жыл бұрын
Quad S2 in Mona Lisa sound more natural. The Spanish guitar has nylon strings. The 706 is to harsh. Almost metal strings. Can you also add the original recording in the clip? For better comparison.
@HomeTheatre101
@HomeTheatre101 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to chose the B&Ws.
@dss3113
@dss3113 3 жыл бұрын
First I quickly listened to the demo on my iPad. The Quad S2 sounded more "agreeable". Did the same thing again on my desktop with a decent amp/headphones combo. The B&W 706 sounds much more extended on both ends of the frequency range while having more full and detailed mids. The vocalist gets so much more body and expression. Fantastic speakers. Im thinking about trading in my B&W PM1s for the 706 or 705.
@imagesbyjonevan3890
@imagesbyjonevan3890 3 жыл бұрын
706 s2 are the best,,thanks for the comparison..
@beslemeto
@beslemeto 2 ай бұрын
Just get 2 pairs of Quad s2 plus centre speaker and you won't need another speakers for the rest of your life!
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
B&WS are a little clearer but there is a slight disconnect between the two drivers oddly enough.
@vinoheart
@vinoheart 4 жыл бұрын
Hope to see Quad S5.
@jaromirdrobnak8991
@jaromirdrobnak8991 3 жыл бұрын
B&W i have the same even the color. i love them would recommend to try two other songs with deeper bass B&W can go down to 36.6Hz. Its just obvious smaller driver better mids but no deep bass. Cant have both.
@dregasp2467
@dregasp2467 5 ай бұрын
B&W fit well on modern music
@TheDistrict644
@TheDistrict644 3 жыл бұрын
I understand why you have held on to both of those, I have to say the sound reproduction is very good on the Quads. They do seem to be better balanced. i would go with the B&W's and not because i own the 805 matrix horizontal's. I tend to think they are just a bit more detailed and i have always loved a speaker that tells you exactly what your source of material and system just is. I would keep the Quads around if i could though, they would be my go to speaker when having get togethers, due to the different sources of music used. For pure listening, i would have the B&W's set up for myself. Wonder if the 706's wouldn't be as forward if you dialed down on the volume?
@MrGfunk215
@MrGfunk215 6 ай бұрын
I’m a BIG quad fun but, B&W won all around fair and square….($4000 Amp def helped this demo sing 🎶🎶🎶🎶)
@manuelescobarjr3668
@manuelescobarjr3668 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve narrowed my best bookshelf speaker for the money down to the Quad s-2, KEF q350, Definitive Technology D-9, and last but not least ELAC uni-fi B5. But I don’t think I can run the ELAC’s because I just don’t have the Money to buy the power needed for a speaker like that. All I have is a Sony STR-DN-1080. What are your suggestions for a beginner Home Theatre and music enthusiast? Thanks! your videos are awesome I spent my whole free time today watching tons of your videos, your reviews are AMAZING!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Quad S2 or KEF Q350? either speaker is very good, S2 for more refinement most accurate voices and Q350 for bass performance and dynamic attack, please choose base on your taste, thanks
@Zoralovsky
@Zoralovsky 3 жыл бұрын
next demo with drums and saxophone?
@darkgreenambulance
@darkgreenambulance 4 жыл бұрын
I would really have to be in front of them! I am sure they are both very nice units. They jolly well ought to be!
@Noobcybersec
@Noobcybersec 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tharbamar, I have BW CM8 and interested of getting the S2. The CM8 is a bit forward sounding and I struggle with it sometimes. I can’t get a demo so i will be buying it based on your reviews! - Thank you for the demo
@Noobcybersec
@Noobcybersec 4 жыл бұрын
Grumpy468 hey thanks for the reply and input ! Yes , i kinda of agree what you said and wish had the CM10 but was trying to save a few dollar and space. I did demo the ls50 and RP600m as well but wasn’t convinced and did not get that wow factor. Im really hoping to demo the S2 and a few more reviews... i was also considering sound artist sc8b :)
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
While I really can't be certain, and while the 706s have a bit more detail and sharper edges, the Quads seem to add or present more color into the individual instruments. What I mean by that for example, the tone of the piano is more natural, while the 706s seem more homogenized among instruments or presenting less color or specific tonal qualities associated with a particular instrument. Can't be certain just something I am picking up. A speaker I heard once that imparted the same tonal characteristics on every instrument including voices was the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170. While being detailed in sound, everything kind of sounded the same. Weird to me. Lots of detail in comparison to other budget designs, but that homogenization of sound was there. At the time, I only remember one other person who didn't like them while everyone else raved. A reason why comparisons are useful. It shows differences and with differences, we can start understanding what preferences we like in speakers. It is rare if not just plain unobtainable at any price one gets all the boxes checked off perfectly.
@ashleysia743
@ashleysia743 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Z2s. It will be interesting if you could review them.
@darpanbhuyan1909
@darpanbhuyan1909 4 жыл бұрын
Ashley Sia I’m being offered the Z2s for approx USD 1650. Does it make sense to go for them as i already have the Quad S5s?
@ashleysia743
@ashleysia743 4 жыл бұрын
@@darpanbhuyan1909 You have to listen to the Z2 to decide if you like the sound. I personally have not heard the S5 before but they should have deeper bass given the cabinet volume.
@darpanbhuyan1909
@darpanbhuyan1909 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashleysia743 - I have my low frequencies taken care of by a sub (REL T9i) so strong/deep bass is not a concern. My dealer is unfortunately situated around 700 miles from my location so can't fly down to audition them either.
@ashleysia743
@ashleysia743 4 жыл бұрын
@@darpanbhuyan1909 Based on my audition of S2s, the difference is that Z2s sound bigger and has a more serious presentation. It also needs quite a bit of power as it's only 84db sensitivity.
@AussiePat
@AussiePat 4 жыл бұрын
I asked before, but didnt get an answer (with all understanding :)) Im curious of how you would compare focal 906 to these Quads? All the best and thank you for making these videos! / Patrik
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I might have missed it, Quad S2 is more musical and suites my taste, Aria 906 is a little too neutral and bass is on light side, high level listening is not that impressive. Thanks
@AussiePat
@AussiePat 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Tharbamar Thank you. The S2 sounds like a winner. A good looker too.
@darpanbhuyan1909
@darpanbhuyan1909 4 жыл бұрын
AussiePat they are really really good considering other speakers in that price range. Just don’t expect them to be giant killers.
@duongminh6839
@duongminh6839 2 жыл бұрын
Quad S2 is my choice
@Yeolde777
@Yeolde777 3 жыл бұрын
B&W for me, but I always been into them. I like the drive and engagement they have. I think the Quad sounds too soft and bass heavy.
@user-ru3rl5qp4l
@user-ru3rl5qp4l 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised their sound is very similar to each other, the tusks are a little louder and the quad is a little more natural, but these differences are insignificant in the sound, but the difference in their price is 2 times - although in the sound you cannot feel this difference for this money.
@davidclarke2895
@davidclarke2895 3 жыл бұрын
Great review... I,m going for the S2,s. What stands did you use for these speakers?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
I’m using B&W STAV24 Stands, thanks
@45billyva
@45billyva 3 жыл бұрын
It may come down to the type of music you listen to ?
@hansiangng2808
@hansiangng2808 4 жыл бұрын
10:35 11:35 Is it just me or the Hi-Hat sound in Quad is more on the left side and BW is slight on the right. But from the yt audio samples i listen it images at center.
@dwormon8525
@dwormon8525 3 жыл бұрын
Love these but the tweeter is not gonna last too fragile?
@milagroscaviglia5034
@milagroscaviglia5034 4 жыл бұрын
Another great comparision!!How can you explain that being a smaller and cheaper speaker can compete with 706??thanks and cheers from Argentina!!
@jsm-programmingjosuemoreir5559
@jsm-programmingjosuemoreir5559 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Undoubtedly, B & w can overcome Quad. At least here I got the idea that the timbre and musical passages of b & ws are clearer and more melodious compared to Quads. Congratulations again for the video.
@beslemeto
@beslemeto 2 ай бұрын
Nope! b&w just sound more metalic and harsh,but that doesn't mean it is more musical!
@shaficknazier9125
@shaficknazier9125 3 жыл бұрын
Quad S2 !!
@shuckylad
@shuckylad 4 жыл бұрын
Did the quad s-2 have any “break in” period that you noticed? I literally set my pair up yesterday and they sound excellent out the box. Very pleased for the relatively small price.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they do sound great out of the box, bass will improve after about 50 hours, thanks
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar I can confirm. I have the Quad Z2 and out of the box they are disappointing, but after >40 hours they open up and really improve.
@JuanLega
@JuanLega 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I wonder how the Quads compare to the KEF R3's....
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
We have to compare with Quad Z1 or Z2 to be fair but S2 may be only lacks in bass response compare to R3. I will find out in near future, thanks
@shahrulhaidi3782
@shahrulhaidi3782 4 жыл бұрын
In jazz, quad s2 ,1 step ahead
@mikedinno8413
@mikedinno8413 4 жыл бұрын
The Ascend Acoustics Sierra would be interesting since it also has a ribbon tweeter and is in the same class.
@bella3008
@bella3008 3 жыл бұрын
But Quad S-2 has better balance, for sure.
@ashneel
@ashneel 3 жыл бұрын
The Sierra measures noticably better than all of them
@nikolaoskostoglou8044
@nikolaoskostoglou8044 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,love your videos.I am into b&w and have a question for you.How does an 805 nautilus compare to an 706 s2.I mean pricewise they are about the same.Cabinwise the 706 must be way inferior and there is something about the prestigious design of the the 805 but the 706 has incorporated much newer technology into its drivers.Which one is the better buy from a sound quality perspective?
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
Well...I ordered the Quad S-2 and will report back once I have had a chance to listen to them. I know they are nice from a previous brief listen but in comparison to what I have now is how they'll be judged. They don't have to outright beat the sound but if they are as good as I hope they are and come close enough, they'll do as I like the size. Someone compared them to Martin Logan 15 motions but I hope they are better than those. The MLs were nice with voice but OK with everything else and sounded exactly like a pair of Paradigm SE-1s (except for voice) I had. Nothing wrong with both their performance, they performed just like speakers in the 500 to 600 price range at the time. The MLs couldn't take power though and fell apart at louder volumes, congested, etc. Sold the SE-1s, returned the MLs. So, at $900, I expect more and btw, they were orinally released with an MSRP of $999 so $899 in the US is not a big discount especially discontinued. (Just checked the site I purchased from., no longer available so I guess I got the last pair). In comparison to Wharedale 225 I heard in the same room, the Quads had more layers/texture and refinement in voice, didn't lose tone off axis and had tighter low mids and bass. I know Tharbamer liked the 225s and likes a warmer presentation (in comparison to me), but the Quads are definitely a contender given what he noticed about their presentation. I never warmed up to B&W line having heard CM5s at one time. It all depends upon whether the Quads have sufficient detail and holography in soundstage. The Sepele was sold out so ordered black oak which is just as fine, the all black color is still sleek (and now also sold out). White gloss would have been cool too. Black gloss, I've had before and eh. Fingerprint magnet. I considered the Quad S-1, nice unobtrusive size but a 4 inch driver for $749? Currently using Focal 807W and Triangle Zetas. Also own but boxed up Definitive SM45s which I like for many reasons but are not as detailed as the others. Lots of speaker choices today and 600 to 1000 US gives so many competent speakers with different flavors but the Quads always intrigued me. I don't know if resale value down the road will be great for black and made in China (not that there's anything wrong with that) but I'm looking for a speaker I can end with for my listening habits and ergonomic desires. But Quad isn't going away as it is owned by a large Corporation by the IAG group and Peter Cameau has his hand on speaker designs for IAG or at least did for this speaker. BTW anyone have any experience with Canton Vento? Anyone else with these speakers care to give their impression and comparisons if any?
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
I see the prices jumped on MD to full retail for both Quad S-1 and S-2 while overseas, the Quad S-2 sells for under $800 US. What are they thinking?
@beslemeto
@beslemeto 2 ай бұрын
@@nc3419 I got it for £370 after 3 years :)
@RFerreira2009
@RFerreira2009 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider the S-2 viable for near field desktop usage? Or do you think the S-1 are more recommended for that?
@CriPPleR_HD
@CriPPleR_HD 3 жыл бұрын
So I purchased two pairs of Bowers and Wilkins 606 S2 AE for music, home theater, and gaming. Love the sound, but did not like the plane black generic look. This morning I pulled the trigger on a pair of Bowers and Wilkins 706 S2 (Rosenut) from Music Direct. While getting ready for work this Quad S-2 review played right after watching your 706 S2 videos for the hundredth time. 😁 Now I am doubting my purchase.🤔 My question: Is it worth canceling my 706 order until I can find a place that sells the Quads in the US? (706’s have not shipped yet) Can’t find the Quads locally and most online stores don’t sell them or if they do, they have them listed as discontinued. Or should I just keep my 706 S2 order and forget I ever heard of the Quads? 😅 Your many 706 videos sold me on the 706 S2, and this one video undone all my hype... but this is why I love your channel. Your honesty is refreshing. ✊🏽 Was looking at the EVO 4.2 but they are too big as I only sit about 5 ft from the speakers. Your guidance is much appreciated!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Evo 4.2 is incredibly good in near field listening as well or you can try Evo 4.1, 706 S2 power handling is better than many but highs can be a little too forward, think of your preference because that’s the only thing that important for you, thanks
@CriPPleR_HD
@CriPPleR_HD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar yea, my main setup is Focal 1037be / McIntosh system. Some consider the speakers to be bright and forward but absolutely adore them. The 606’s does indeed have a sparkle up top but it has not bothered me... yet. The speakers I am considering now are for a media / gaming room that can also double as a 2ch listening area. Not sure how ribbon speakers work for HT and gaming. Not a lot of videos evaluating Evo and Quads for their HT performance. Going to keep my 706 on order but also take your recommendation and order the EVO 4.2. I will keep the one that works better for my overall needs. Thanks for the quick response! Do you have a email? Would love to share images of the system you inspired me to get once all said and done. Thanks for the feedback.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
@@CriPPleR_HD with some Ribbon tweeters you might miss the dynamic impact and scale of metal dome tweeters, base on your comment I would suggest you to stick with 706 S2. My email is my name at gmail, Also you can upload it to community public album, photos.app.goo.gl/QnMYKStpc9B7QUnp8 Thanks
@CriPPleR_HD
@CriPPleR_HD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thanks for taking time to share your knowledge and reply to my comments. Your videos were/are tremendously valuable to me during this pandemic where auditioning speakers are not easy.
@fernandorivera6947
@fernandorivera6947 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Bowers & Wilkins 683 S2 model, thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
They are okay, a little unrefined for my taste, thanks
@cyphercl6798
@cyphercl6798 3 жыл бұрын
Now, this might be a weird question to ask, but: What if you build a nice PC system; you have a nice AMP/DAC and all the good equipment - but instead of going with crappy pc-branded speakers as stereo-setup; is going with Bookshelf speakers worth it? On PC, I personally always listen to music - especially when trying to focus on things. Which means, you sit closely to your monitor, maybe less than half a meter (1,5 foot or something, am from europe). I'd still love to get really high quality speakers, especially for bass hungry music, yet still delivering top-notch in the other ranges. On one review, you said, the B&W would be best with 6 foot (1.8 meters) distance - somewhere in that range. You didn't say anything about the Quad S2 in that regard. Would you recommend any Bookshelf speakers for top-notch sound, just with the addition that it still sounds amazing when only sitting 1,5 foot (0,5 meters) away, or something in that range? Maybe even the Quad S2? Or am I completely heading towards the wrong direction? Looking forward for any helpful answers, much greetings, am a new fan of your channel and the community. :)
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Simple answer is you can use any bookshelf speaker for near field desktop, you just need to position them right to get the best sound, my favorite would be either LS50 passive or active if I were serious about desktop, thanks
@cyphercl6798
@cyphercl6798 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your quick reply! Re-listened to your comparisons of the LS50 Meta & the Quads S2. I have to go with the Quad S2, even tho I preferred the heavy bass of the KEFs. The Quads just had much more pronounced (yet not over pronounced) mids & highs. I guess that justifies the loss of a bit of bass, in the long run - especially for daily usage. However, that's just my opinion. :P Thanks again, very much appreciated.
@JackJack-qi1hy
@JackJack-qi1hy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for comparing these speakers. I have a Yamaha A-S1200. I am following your speaker reviews and I am eyeing Evo 4.2, Klipsch RP600M, Quad S2 and 706 S2. May I know your precious advice on what speaker to get? Or maybe you have other speakers to review on the way that will match the Yamaha. My current speaker is the very old B&W685. Thanks! I have learned a lot from your channel.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Your amp will sound great with Quad S2, refinements and musicality makes it great choice for music listening. Thanks
@JackJack-qi1hy
@JackJack-qi1hy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@harveylin3548
@harveylin3548 3 жыл бұрын
B & W is much more clear, Quad just has more bass. It's a preference if someone likes clear highs vs good bass extension.
@boonchaitan5905
@boonchaitan5905 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tharbamar, i am deciding which speaker to get. Mission QX2, B&W 606, or Wharfedale Evo 4.2. May i have your opinion ? Thanks :)
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I have not heard QX2. 606 and Evo 4.2 is very different sounding. Both speakers are capable of producing every details but in different ways, 606 is brighter and more dynamic but forward sound, Evo 4.2 is rich and warm with great drivers integration, you have to decide base on your taste. Thanks
@remi2206
@remi2206 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question,i have noticed you most if not all of the time review bookshelf speakers when most "audiophiles" choose floor standing speakers to be the best choice.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Not true, many purists audiophiles prefer two way bookshelf speakers or big monitors, floor standers does not image as good as bookshelf design in average smaller spaces. My first ever speaker was bigger floor standers than many people have, which was Infinity Kappa 9.2i S2 $5k/pair in 1999. There is no such a thing as best choice, room, pairing equipment, experience and taste involved.
@richarddegannes2928
@richarddegannes2928 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tharbamar, Between KEF Reference 1 and B&W 805D3, which in your opinion is the better speaker for 2.0 or 2.1 stereo? By chance, did you announce the winner of the speaker cables that you were promoting the other day? Thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I could go with either speakers, slightly prefer Reference 1 more balanced sound. The winner is already announced on community post, thanks
@richarddegannes2928
@richarddegannes2928 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thanks, Could you please make a pair of speakers cables for me?
@kostiskouraklis
@kostiskouraklis 4 жыл бұрын
Between dali menuet and s2 what would you recommend,i like revealing and forward speakers,thank you in advance
@maximdmitricenco8976
@maximdmitricenco8976 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, can you please make a review on Definitive technology D11 and compare them to other speaker. Thank you 🙏🏻
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
I have the older SM45s which I really enjoyed although they were less detailed and a little laid back regarding movies, nothing like many british speakers but in comparison to more audiophile speakers. They were close to Kef Q100s in detail but I liked the SM45s better for superior build and looks as well as being very dynamic. The Q100s could get beamy. Tonality isn't top tier but better than many and Def techs like power and good amps. For the money, there are alot of choices today.
@bobcollinsworth4676
@bobcollinsworth4676 4 жыл бұрын
How would these compare against the NHT C3 speakers? Any plan to test the NHT's?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I have not heard NHT in very long time, I will try them if I can in the future, thanks
@jsm-programmingjosuemoreir5559
@jsm-programmingjosuemoreir5559 4 жыл бұрын
I repeated my listening and changed my mind. I tried to capture the sounds better, and in fact the Quads show a more refined sweet and less aggressive highs. Quad voices, however, heard here have a slightly echoed tone, suggesting that B&W are better vocally. But listening well to quads are far superior to B&W for the musical balance, detail across the musical scale.
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
Can't really be certain unless you are there. While you hear a slightly echoed tone, that could be due to a variety of factors. I hear it to but don't remember hearing anything like that when I demoed them awhile back. Now that I just received a pr., I will see if they have those tonal characteristics. I noticed a more natural tone across the spectrum of the Quads in comparison to the B&Ws. The B&Ws seem to have a sharper outline, maybe play a bit louder which also throws off comparisons but what I noticed was tone was more homogenized. The Quads seem to impart a more natural color balance to individual instruments, IMO from the video.
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