That one fatphobic episode of My Wife and Kids...

[@anastasiabennett4854]

“The fatphobic episode of my wife and kids” my first thought was GIRL which one ?😂

[@alissajadyn]

I’m hearing there’s plenty 😭😭 I gotta watch the whole show now cause my view is warped

[@harriyanna]

"all are so sensitive." no...........why is it normalized to make fun of people!? wtf wrong with yall

[@alissajadyn]

exactly!! that isn't okay at all

[@Neku628]

Plus, why does Jay's kids and husband have to wear fat suits? I don't know how they could around the criticism because if they hired look-alike actors, it would probably be worse since they are mocking the actual fat actors. I don't know. I don't like them wearing fat suits, but the having look-alike fat actors, that would just be making fat people into a spectacle. How would you handle it? Is there any way to deal with fatphobia in a show without making fat people into spectacles?

[@jadebel7006]

It's not nice to make fun of ppls appearance... its perfectly fine to make fun of ppls actions .. as long as it's in a light hearted way n not suuuper cruel way

[@jadebel7006]

Although I was over weight most of my life until recently n being big did affect me in a bad way, but wether it's now or before these types of jokes never offended me and I did/do find it funny soooo 🤷‍♀️ .. and its not rly the same of making fun of someone's race or being lgbt or disabled

[@Mslee8320]

@@jadebel7006 I agree lol. It’s not that deep. How they gon tell big/former big people to be offended over something they find funny as well. It wasn’t cruel or disrespectful. It was funny🤷🏽‍♀️

[@LolNotDarian]

I think they harped on Jays weight in that era because they were trying to appeal to the white audience as well, and we all know how the 2000s white population was very obsessed with being stick thin. I had no clue, but My Wife and Kids was aired all over the world. I had an ex who was a white man, and he said he used to watch the show when he lived in Greece as a kid. Knowing the audience provides more clarity to their topics and how they handled them. I think the line of harmless fun gets crossed when you look at the larger message overall tied to the discourse. When the entire message is "being fat is bad and fat people need to get in the gym" rather than "society views being fat as bad and here is how it effects the people who are constantly the butt of the joke." They could have still made all those jokes in the episode, but if they ended it with Michael understanding how awful his jokes made Jay feel, the episode still would have been in good taste. The reason it was in poor taste is because they drove the message all the way through that "fat is bad" by having Jay have that nightmare and deciding to lose the weight.

[@alissajadyn]

You are preaching! 🙌🏿

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

The wayans brother have a fat black woman character named "ugliesha" in dance flick

[@kandicelewis9435]

I’m American, parents were in the military and you’re right about it being aired everywhere because I watched a whole lot of My Wife and Kids in England

[@monzorella1]

I'm from the UK. I watched it

[@malu2385]

Brazilian here . Its one of the most watched sitcoms of all time here

[@literallyimtrash7975]

i will never forget the pie episode where one of the kids ate his pie and didn't tell him. They didnt tell him because he told them not to snitch/tattle on each other anymore. So he forced them to eat pie for breakfast, lunch, and dinner for DAYS. Literally nothing else. And Jay let it happen. Like? These kids were having damn near breakdowns bc of only being allowed to eat pie. Thats so childish and it made me realize just how much of an asshole he was, especially when it came to the kids

[@alissajadyn]

Oh my gosh! That’s torture

[@Bluemoonsouth]

A lot of black dads are like that. My stepdad was overly abuse like we had to kneel on rice in the corner as punishment.

[@calebdouglas7622]

Until Katie yells Claire😂

[@CatKun-2000]

I love the pie episode heck I have it on the video app on my small phone thing

[@TV-8-301]

Thanks for pointing this out, I feel like fatphobia is one of those stigmas that don't get taken seriously enough, like it's still commonplace to think nothing of denying fat people basic respect or accommodations

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

accommodations for fat people? 😭

[@TV-8-301]

@@pastelpurpledeathbed Yeah, like public seating such as on buses and planes, more clothing options, certain medical beds and other equipment that isn't made for 300+ pounds of weight, and most of all, doctors and surgeons just not knowing how to work with fat people and blaming their weight on 100% of whatever symptoms they have.

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

@@TV-8-301 maybe that should be a sign that you shouldn’t be that size…?

[@TV-8-301]

@@pastelpurpledeathbed It's not so simple as that. Not every body responds the same way to diet and exercise, and for people with mobility issues such as paraplegia or chronic pain, exercise may not even be an option. But even if it WERE easy to just "stop being fat," people deserve respect regardless of their bodies, full stop

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

@@TV-8-301 yeah there are some conditions but its a little crazy to expect accommodations at a certain size. a lot of this is just cope used by people to avoid accountability for their bad decisions lmao

[@kerimanasilasila174]

They always do that when a actress gets pregnant they write in she loves to eat smh.

[@alissajadyn]

That’s so weird 😭

[@LiShuBen]

I never messed with Martin and there is definitely a trend with people who still, in the year of our lord, 2024 still talk about how funny Martin is and neglect to mention any of the obvious colorism and hate towards women in general.

[@Neku628]

Not to mention, why do shows, the longer they go on have to flanderize the naive character into being more dumb? Ed from Ed Edd n Eddy? Junior. Chelsea from That's So Raven. What is with the ableism? Just keep the character the same and don't dumb them down.

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

The wayans brother have a fat black woman character named "ugliesha" in dance flick

[@funsizedazzy6708]

Dang having a baby and making jokes is what happened to me my mom roasted me I went up a whole nine sizes after my first son it went away eventually but the jokes hurt

[@alissajadyn]

That wasn’t nice :( we should definitely be more kind to women postpartum

[@BlackAutMedia]

I agree with you and whoo this episode was not it. The fact that the real actor portraying Jay had her body scrutinized like that to the point where they write around her like that really is gross. There’s also a season 5 episode about abstinence where Jay decides to not do it with Michael for a long time and because he wants to, he decides to get her drunk to sleep with her. They really just made a whole episode around Michael SAing his wife 🤮

[@alissajadyn]

Excuseeee mee?? OMG

[@BlackAutMedia]

@ yeah. There’s an episode in season 5. If I remember correctly it’s even titled “celibacy.” Saying it’s a mess is probably the understatement of the year.

[@sarahthomas8670]

Omg I remember that’s. Michael could be so creepy sometimes

[@literallyimtrash7975]

@@sarahthomas8670creepy sometimes, an asshole most times. i remember rewatching episodes and realizing how much of a dick he is especially to his kids.

[@harriyanna]

this show is so irritating wtf

[@cultwonyo]

There has been a constant trend of black women being the butt of the joke in predominantly black shows and movies for years. I often view them as being caricatures of us and feminine presenting black people. It's a big reason why I can't enjoy shows like MWAK, Martin, and The Parkers (-- throwing most Madea movies in there too).

[@nainai6030]

I grew up with Martin and I remembered loving it. Recently I watched a few episodes with my husband to see how it hits now that we’re very grown. We expected it to be a rough watch, but maaaaaan. We still laughed a lot, but we also had a LOT of “yikes” moments.

[@alissajadyn]

This experience is so common 😭 I feel you!

[@yourfavoritecouzin]

that's growth ❤️

[@brandonbates9259]

You know why you still laughed?? Because you know not to be overly critical abt every thing the show does.Because Martin is a comedian,same for My wife and kids Damon Wayans is a comedian.. There's some stuff they might of went overboard with but folks got a lighten up lol

[@daniellenotz2460]

The fact that they changed the daughter's actress at the same time and addressed it with a passing comment while writing an entire episode to explain why another cast member gained a few pounds is unhinged.

[@agluv7360]

I wonder how TCM felt for real i know that was her post partum body like it had to bother her a little irl

[@alissajadyn]

Right? Like that doesn’t seem like a fun experience

[@sarahthomas8670]

It’s okay . I didn’t watch Martin either. Especially how they portray black women. Never got into it. I’m glad I ain’t the only one .

[@brandonbates9259]

I'm confused lol you just said you didn't watch Martin,so how do you know how the women were portrayed??? I did watch it and I can tell you how they were portrayed

[@harriyanna]

i am the #1 my wife and kids hater!!!!!

[@jdtroup198683]

My Wife and Kids. You mean My Wife and Mids

[@Darkstalker1012]

@@jdtroup198683 Y’know what- 💀💀

[@crazybubbleyum101]

Shes not even FAT like I'm listening to this and looking at her and she still looks skinny or at the very lest curvy like the fact that this episode is tell me shes fat is BAFFLING people in the 2000's will show you a woman that's a size 8 and tell me shes the fattest woman on the planet

[@monzorella1]

She is a normal size. But that's fat to some people

[@taylorhillard4868]

We've become a lot more desensitized to seeing fat people in the modern age that our perceptions are a bit skewed. This is fat. Its not egregious, but it is fat. Its probably just on the cusp of where it starts to cause negative health outcomes, perticularly for black and hispanic people (and especially for east Asian populations) as they are not as fat-adapted as white people. Fat starts about here, not once people get so obese they start making new bodyparts to name (looking at the "apron" girlies)

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

The wayans brother have a fat black woman character named "ugliesha" in dance flick

[@alissajadyn]

The Wayans haven’t made anything actually funny in a very long time 🥴

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

@ I left a comment several times so that different people can be aware and I only noticed because people used to call me ugly Aisha saying that I look like her when I was in school

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

@ they also have a black woman named keloidesha in the film and a white woman in the film is named Megan ironically my name is also Meghan but they called me ugly Asha instead

[@LolNotDarian]

I agree, Martin sucks. Literally every aspect of (black people) low brow comedy baked into one show and delivered to you in the worst way possible.

[@alissajadyn]

my people!

[@xLadyRaine]

i think you’re one of the first people to address what call “assflation” over the years. It’s crazy that video vixens of the past would be considered to have small butts now.

[@Bigbarbie00]

Would you do a long form video analyzing the full series of some of the early 2000s shows like a retrospective of some sort

[@alissajadyn]

I would loveee to do this!

[@Bigbarbie00]

@ like one on one, living single, half & half all iconic shows lol 🩷 I’d love to watch. Sending love and support 🩷

[@ksis86]

I recently binged the show for the first time and i did like it for the most part, but every few episodes i was like “😬😬😬 ooh nooo this didnt age well”

[@Goosethelabrador]

I was re-watching my wife and kids and this is the episode. I stopped at. 😂😂 It only gets worse from here every opportunity they have to talk about that woman’s weight they do

[@alissajadyn]

Fawkkkkk

[@TheMsdanybaby]

There's one episode when Micheal and Jay were out with JR and Vanessa and Micheal literally told Jay she couldn't afford to eat anymore rolls. like whatttt?! This show slick disgusted me

[@WKS202]

the show is called "what's up dad" in the german dub, so i was really confused on what show this video was. the "fat family" daydream made me actually remember the episode xd

[@thedarkprincess4196]

Girl that Häagen-Dazs coffee ice cream do it for me. On a bad day, I will eat a whole pint 🥲

[@vikkidc3859]

I loved Martin as a kid (in the 90s, not 00s 😂😂😂) but I ratchet KY and couldn't stand any of the male characters. Tisha Campbell and Tichina Arnold comedy still hold up though.

[@alissajadyn]

this is a good take! i think the men are what throw me off watching the show 😭

[@miguelsonofzeus]

Oh, gurl! I can write a book on fatphobia and lookism.

[@monzorella1]

15:45 she never really lost the weight. She didn't go back to what she was in season 1

[@imanismith7431]

the "its like im speaking chinese" episode from season one also aged SOOOOO poorly. idk who thought it was a good idea to begin with??? 😭😭😭

[@kandicelewis9435]

This is my favorite sitcom and now I feel weird cuz I didn’t know 😭 I was a kid watching it, but my mom said she didn’t like it so maybe she was on to something🤷🏾‍♀️

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

It was shows like American Top model’s and beauty magazines that had impact on more of the toxic body traits. Sitcoms were just there to be funny, and that stuff with Jay was tame. They made fun of Uncle Phil and Carl Winslow religiously for the weight and were unapologetic. If anything, Michael was being far more toxic not wanting Jay to work or go back to school.

[@sarahconoir]

Id tell him "good news, you get to stop working out and get fat with or take a vacation to Turkey to get a hair transplant."

[@Denise-ob8dk]

Why do you say jump scare for Anthony Anderson? Just curious.

[@alissajadyn]

He has a history of SA/harassment allegations unfortunately

[@Denise-ob8dk]

@alissajadyn oh ok. I forgot about that

[@nicolesherman8974]

I never watched My Wife and Kids… i really want to see how it holds up in 2024 😬.

[@Sade_mk2]

I would definitely say the early 2000 and had more representation of black love and media than they ever do today. And being a parent and rewatching my wife and kids with my husband is so funny cuz now I get to understand the parents point of view

[@Bigbarbie00]

Would you add more clips from the shows to better convey your points ?

[@alissajadyn]

my channel was recently demonetized for "reused content". Since I came back, I've been trying to use less clips and copyrighted footage so I can stay monetized :(

[@mekhiaross2711]

Also the first Claire didn’t think she was funny enough 😂😂😂

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

Do I like Martin? Yes, I grew up with it...I have the entire series on DVD...and I rewatch reruns on T.V. if I happen to be up late or watch it on Netflix/BET+. HOWEVER, I'm NOT going to act like A LOT of the things in that show don't hit different since I'm an adult now. Yes, there were some lines crossed for the sake of 'comedy.' I think when you get older, you notice the difference between jokes for the sake of comedy vs. jokes that are just mean-spirited. Pam was anything BUT ugly! Not putting Gina down or anything, but my gosh PAM was the it girl in that series IMO. I'm a 90s kid and I remember the wave of people in real life and when social media started up who cheered for a Martin/Gina-like relationship. Trust and believe the LAST relationship that I'd ever want to imitate would be those two! Michael & Jay weren't perfect, but I will say I'd much rather have a relationship closer to that than Martin and Gina...

[@gabriellelewis9980]

Omgosh I thought I was the only one who didn’t like Martin 😭

[@thedreammweaver6274]

Comparing being a bald man specifically to gaining weight is so like- not even a comparison. Bald people don’t get less medical care for being bald, they don’t get told “well just grow some hair” if the issue isn’t immediately obvious. They don’t get treated like the way their body is is a moral failure or a sign that they’re gross and lazy. I’ve never watched this show but my first impression of this husband is a terrible one

[@CatKun-2000]

I’m gonna be honest I never thought someone would be talking about my wife and kids I mean it was kind of my favorite show as a kid well I didn’t really have a favorite but whatever lol

[@AndreaGonzalez-wk3pr]

I to this day say, "I have gone past Chubby Avenue."

[@nostalgiamostalgia0319]

I keep forgetting it was on Nick at Nite, who else saw it there all the time.

[@evernechatman1590]

Can do an episode of Michael being overprotective with Claire and your opinion on it.

[@daniellesmusicaladventures9700]

Can we have more discussions of "My Wife And Kids?"

[@TheLifeofEb]

Haagen Dazs Carmel cone has me in a chokehold rn as well. I need to put it down

[@alissajadyn]

My people!

[@RedCapKid514438]

Jay's PJs look cute in that episode.

[@agirlnamedkris6374]

Waaait the Martin-series hate I was not expecting 😅😅. This is your channel but I think you are overlooking some problematic issues existent in MWAK also--especially when you get into the background tea and rumors. I think the only shows I haven’t heard anything too sus was The Wayans Bros and The Jaime Fox Show 😂. I love them all but let’s me fair here.

[@alissajadyn]

I've learned some unfortunate things about MWAK in these comments that I completly forgot about 😭

[@QuintrellDemary]

How do you not love Martin

[@chantellhewitt1352]

I couldn’t find this episode funny at all. As I was rewatching it some days ago , I was actually confused on why they were blowing up her weight so much since she didn’t look that much bigger in my opinion. I also didn’t remember how controlling he was towards Jay or how patriarchal their household was

[@itsjustani324]

lol i always think you’re in a sauna

[@alissajadyn]

🤣🤣 I am near a gym lol. I’m in a lounge

[@nismith58]

I ALWAYS thought this !! It’s def my least favorite episode!!

[@Barbiiieeee]

Omgg please do a video on Martin 😮😮😮

[@makototv1035]

Honestly I just didnt find Martin funny, say what you want. I have a short attention span so maybe thats why I never liked it, I remember loving A Different World though.

[@amikkomoon5273]

If you need to fantasize that I’m someone els we can just watch a movie.

[@Tirrrb]

This a good video omg?

[@alissajadyn]

Hi Tirrrb 😳 I love YOUR videos!

[@thtgrlaries]

I love your content my fellow LA native and I never liked Martin either very unfunny sitcom

[@everlasting3447]

This was a funny episode idc idc

[@alexe.8224]

Whatever it was funny, you even mentioned you were laughing over and over. The actress could have said no for this world but she didn't. Stop being a SJW for problems that don't exist.

[@Snowball87754]

First

[@alissajadyn]

HEYYY 🫶🏿

[@Snowball87754]

@alissajadyn Hello

[@druwinters1352]

Y’all just sensitive

[@homesetup506]

Liking Martin is a red flag? Jesus yall are insufferable.

[@alissajadyn]

facts

[@cooliereddz4141]

Fatphobia is not real 😂, and I’m fat

[@alissajadyn]

People absolutely have a fear of being fat

[@yourfavoritecouzin]

​@@alissajadynand of fat people... people will literally refuse to be friends with people who are fat just because they are fat and no other reason besides their biases against them

[@alissajadyn]

@@yourfavoritecouzin all of this! ‼️

[@ejarridcw]

Phobic this and phobic that smh yall are so sensitive these days to the point where it literally makes me sick.

[@alissajadyn]

16:25

[@shadywiskerz]

You’re so sensitive if someone’s opinion makes you feel sick lol

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

deadass like 😂

[@everlasting3447]

Like for real , I'm glad I grew up in the 90s / early 2000s ppl are softer than baby 💩 now

[@alissajadyn]

@@everlasting3447damn aunty

[@kerrajohnson3203]

Cry cry cry.

[@PorscheF]

Yall cry and complain too much

[@SoufBySoufeast]

💯

[@alissajadyn]

facts