That Pedal Show - Analog Man King Of Tone Alternatives: Are There Any?

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In this episode Daniel and Mick are discussing the much-loved Analog Man King Of Tone overdrive. It’s Dan’s favourite overdrive of recent times but as many people will know, there is a very long waiting list if you want to buy one.
So, what can you do while you’re waiting, or indeed if you don’t want to wait at all? We’ve selected six other overdrives that do a similar job and set about 50 minutes of comparing them to the KOT.
We chose these pedals because we have experience of them / have them to hand. There are of course others, but we need to keep things manageable!
Here are some timings to help you navigate this long video…
KOT intro, background & explanation 2:44
KOT sound demo 8.00 - 11:00
“Todays pedals are…” 11:45
Lovepedal Amp Eleven (from 12:35)
Tone City King Of Blues (from 19:10)
Thanks to Andertons Music for lending us this and the Full-Drive 3 www.andertons.co.uk/overdrive-...
Fulltone Full-Drive 3 (from 21:53)
T-Rex Møller 2 (from 28:28)
J Rockett Tim Pierce Signature (from 32:32) The GoPro pedal cam dies part way through - sorry!
Lazy J Cruiser Deuce (from 35:37)
“Is there a pedal that sounds exactly like the King Of Tone?” (from 39:36)
Fun with the Gretsch 6118T-LIV Players Edition Anniversary and all the pedals (from 42:54, playing at 44:13)
And yes, Mick says “Brigsby”. Sorry about that.
In this video, Mick is playing his Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster. Daniel is playing his Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard and a Gretsch 6118T-LIV Players Edition Anniversary.
Amps are a Fender Super Reverb reissue with 4x10-inch Jensen P10R speakers and a Mallard 18-watt Marshall clone on a Marshall 2061cx 2x12 cab with Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers. Both amps are running all the time.
As always, all pedal and amp switching and routing is handled by TheGigRig G2.
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[@indytrucks2003]

I wish you guys would revisit some of these comparison videos from "back in the day" now that your production and sound quality has improved. This one, the Klon clone shoot out, etc.

[@stanislavmigra]

very much agreed. Once the Covid situation settles, they have lot of work to do :D

[@Godsman1982]

This is a great Idea

[@mr.deafeningguitar1547]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Turn0vers]

Yeah, these really need to be revisited. Especially this one.

[@satchmodog2]

That tone at 13:15 sold me on the Amp Eleven. The wife got the Volvo SUV and the dogs in the divorce, I cuddle with the Amp 11 now and am happier for it.

[@JohnShalamskas]

Although I would probably miss the dogs.

[@333jobforacowboy]

Yeah the Amp 11 is probably my favorite overdrive. People like to say its the same as the tim but I was to have one side by side with Amp11 and they’re definitely not the same. Close but the amp11 just has a slightly different sound. Wouldnt mind having the Tim as well.

[@StanleyCullerEsq.]

Absolutely loved this one, guys. You both continue to bring us stellar, interesting videos and I'm so grateful for them. Thanks!

[@joskam092]

You guys have a show about every single thing I've searched about pedals. Unbelievable!!

[@jackgrizzly7140]

Always looking forward to your videos now. You have helped me a great deal in my guitar gear journeys!

[@TLOTTrike]

I watched this video back in 2017 and got my name on the waiting list. It arrived today... It is Magic.and well worth the wait

[@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed]

The Amp Eleven was really the one that sounded best to me, not the closest to the KOT, just the best of the bunch to my ears. Not the same as in the room with the amps of course but still :).

[@sgb200]

I thought the same. I loved the full frequency without the muddiness.

[@JettyDeke]

I thought the first tone they pulled from the KOT was absolutely perfect. I'll probably be getting an Amp 11 for time and monetary reasons. I want to try a Strymon riverside but I'm not sold yet.

[@ddhuber]

That Amp 11 sounds great no doubt. I like both the Amp 11 and KOB

[@LBRSpeed]

I found this video about a month after reaching the top of the King of Tone waiting list, along with the ones Dan was running a Les Paul into a Marshall and Vox via the K.O.T. Thanks to the staggeringly great tones you both were getting with every guitar/amp combo, you inspired me to take the plunge. My K.O.T. order form is in the mail! I figure the cost of return shipping alone of the numerous overdrives I will continue to try and dislike will save me $ in the long run. Thanks for the motivation! I'll let you know how I like it. Keep up the great shows. It will give me something to watch during the brutally cold Minneapolis winter.

[@rcboals]

Tone City King of Blues at about 19 minutes in. Can't go wrong at $79.90 shipped. Got one very nice simple to use pedal full of great tone.

[@robbieredball]

Yet another great video, thank you! I bought my dad a Gretsch 5420 a couple of years ago (they were the guitars everyone wanted in the late 50s when he was growing up in Liverpool) and I liked it so much I nearly didn't hand it over. I've had a Mk 1 Moeller on my board for the last 6 years and love it. Ive a Tim Pierce on order from Andertons too. Im on the KoT waiting list too. THanks again!.

[@YWGuide]

I just got the King of Tone. Dan, it is everything you say. Just amazing tone and the feel under your fingers is like nothing I have every played.

[@TheBryanKelly1]

I really wanted a King of Tone. Now, I want an Amp 11. Great & informative as always. Thanks...

[@aaronwinter1092]

XTheBryanKellyX same.

[@mattgilbert7347]

I wanted a KOT Then I wanted an AMP 11 Now I want a King Tone Duellist. Schopenhauer was right. Life is a constant striving, and desire is never satiated ;) German bastard. They always get the bad shit right.

[@hegartyj1]

This episode has opened my eyes! I have a Moeller which I've never been totally happy with. But that's because I was told it was a tubescreamer with a clean boost. I've tried for a while, but the Moeller always seemed like a bit of a poor TS to me. I was about to sell the Moeller when I saw this video. I don't care what anyone says (about the Moeller being a TS), but my happiness with the pedal has just jumped exponentially. I now run it in a totally different pace on my board, and use it as a Bluesbreaker type pedal instead....and it sounds fantastic in that setting.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+John Hegarty that's great John, there's lots of love for the Moeller out there. It's Danish Pete's favourite OD. I think we'll do a show on the 'sweet spot' of pedals and how to find it. But yes, use as that more open full freq Drive, it's fantastic!

[@metelegerald]

+That Pedal Show Hey guys I totally agree, that's a great idea for an episode!!

[@xcrow0]

King of blues was surprisingly good. For a bargain pedal it holds it's own. Would be a great travel rig pedal. They must have updated it because you used to only be able to use them both when one (which one I don't know) was activated. Now it looks like you can use both independently. Great show guys, I always learn a lot. I've got a Truetone VS-XO sitting on my bench still in the box waiting for some quality time.

[@guitphil]

The VS-XO is killer.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Some great stuff coming out of Australia. Anarchy Audio Gain of Tones vs. AM KOT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faCac4SBmsmNY7s Used Art Sounds make a great KOT style pedal. They also make killer fuzzes. UAS Artavia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3bdY2N3gdpnqas UAS Fuzz pedals (four Fuzzfaces): kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2GbkJmoeap2npI Unfortunately, no demo of the UAS Blues Drive Deluxe but I know players who use it and, either consider it comparable or, actually prefer it to the King of Tone. Both cost less than a KOT and you don't have to wait until the next Ice Age to receive your pedal and Andy is a great guy, easy to deal with. :)

[@Nightingale1887]

A King of Blues it is, thank you very much for the demo. I have the Marshall MK.1 BB pedal. Can't wait to compare.

[@RhythmMethodBand]

How do they compare? My understanding is that the Engine A (right) is a Klone, while the Engine B (left) is more of a Bluesbreaker clone.

[@MrKleaner]

Hey Guys - Thanks for all the videos. You guys have helped me a lot for creating my tone on and off stage! Great work.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Mike Klean very welcome Mike :)

[@iamkennymartin]

1) loved the sound of that Gretsch, especially at the end with the memory man. 2) I really enjoyed the sound of the amp 11. Although different, for what you can get them for used, what a great pedal! 3) I love my JHS double barrel, and my Tumnus. The morning glory (blues breaker) side of the double barrel is still my fav light overdrive.

[@kwsailer1]

I LOVE YOUR SHOW!!!!!!! I have the Amp 11. My amps range from a handwired JTM45, a 1969 Plush P1000, a Trainwreck clone, a Valve Junior, a Kustom Defender and a 5E3 (that I built). The Amp 11 can work with all of them in a complementary manner, and for extra juiciness I follow it with a Lovepedal Eternity Fuse.

[@robertogrady2798]

Thank you for this comprehensive review of not only the holy grail OD, but awesome quality versions or variations from other companies. Proud owner of the KOT V2 and I will never replace it... I'd love a V4, and until I find one it's great to have good quality comparisons around this 'type' of OD. Cheers.

[@kdrake777]

You definitely need to do a Part Two! Keeley Tone workstation, Camel Toe, Wampler, etc! Love your show!

[@WadifiKamal]

I went for the Moller 2 and I got it for 92€ and it was a great choice! Thank you for the recommendation. Greetings 🇲🇦🇲🇦

[@W4rpth0rn]

Yeah I just bought an unused new in box Moller1 for £65 and it's in the post. These things are criminally underrated.

[@Nightbreed82]

New subscriber here. GREAT channel! As a pedal nerd, of course I love it, but the attention to detail that you put into the content reflects pure quality and is appreciated. Keep up the good work guys.

[@BiggSteve777]

Thanks for putting up this video. It''ll help me keep track of how long I've been on Mike's list. :-) I had been thinking of getting on the list for a while... but I officially got on it the day this video was put up on KZbin. (before everyone else who saw this video did) Hopefully I'm not too far down the list from Mick.

[@markgowans]

Amp 11, Full Drive 3 and T - Rex Moller were my favourites. Tone City king of blue was great as well even if the guys seemed to automatically disregard it probably because its cheap.

[@LBRSpeed]

Just received my K.O.T. from Analog Mike! Took about a year on the list, but once they had my order they built my custom black, higher gain both sides K.O.T., and had it to me, all in about a week and a half. The tone is the best I've heard, bar none. The KZbin videos don't do it justice: in person, this pedal really does lives up to the hype! Beatiful, extremely responsive pedal! I now understand why Dan runs both sides on clean (boost): the snarliest, uncompressed overdrive I've heard (out of dozens owned, and hundreds heard). I doubt I'll ever part with it. Thanks, guys, for the encouragement!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Dean Teiwaz Nice one Dean - sol glad you love it!

[@ThemisGi]

Dean Teiwaz w

[@SteveR5954]

wow.... love the way that Gretsch sings into feedback. Damn, now I have to get another guitar!! Thanks Dan :-) keep up the good work... great show

[@phatman1478]

My favorite episode! Some of the best tones for sure! Didn't realize the amp eleven had that much gain in it!

[@stello1972]

I joined the waiting list just after midnight GMT New Years Day 2019. Just to make it easy to remember. I'll comment again the day it arrives. Hope I don't die in between without having played a KOT.

[@FatihPekbas]

Great video as always gents. I loved that Lovepdeal in particular. Great sound. Dan, would you mind using your Nik Huber Krautster more often, since I ordered one and love to see and hear it in some great produced videos to sweeten up the wait for it ;-)

[@clgmafnas]

I like how "chameleonic" the fulldrive 3 can be... but for pure OD, amp 11 stole the show 🤘🏼

[@bggouvea]

Very nice job presenting these! thank you

[@robertsimpson5801]

Hi, Mick and Dan! I hope you are enjoying NAMM! I was just watching this video, and I thought of a pedal that you guys could add to this list of King of Tone alternatives: the JHS Morning Glory V4! It has a remote input on the side that switches it from low gain mode to high gain mode, so technically, it has two modes, and it can have to foot switches with the remote jack. You could also include the JHS Double Barrel, which has a Morning Glory in one side, and a 808-style drive in the other. The order of the two is switchable, too, which is always a nice feature! :)

[@NachoManRandySandwich]

I'm going to kick myself in the nuts if I stay up all night watching pedal videos again 😶

[@vvmakovv2689]

Story of my life

[@americantoysreviewmacey4352]

Ha! That's funny.

[@TheStrataminor]

I would pay to see you actually do that...anatomically!

[@tomcoryell]

I did that, it really hurts!

[@chesneytube1]

Trying to imagine the mechanics 🧰 of that

[@PapaDudeness]

Nice video as always... Another great amp-like overdrive/boost pedal for your consideration would be the T. Jauernig Gristle King v.3.

[@Piedscooter1]

+PapaDudeness Personally, I think the Gristle King is BETTER THAN the KOT!!! I would love to hear a side by side comparison of the two, as I have a T.J. GK and feel that I have no need for a KOT (although I do have an open mind).

[@Lemmysfinger]

I used to have a KOT and sold it a few years ago to fund something else... I'm back on the waiting list 😄 lesson learned. I really liked the Amp 11 and may have to get one for a different flavour while i wait.

[@garethbe]

Great Video! Mick and Dan's videos make we wanna play guitar all day..and get a KOT! As a side note the Wampler Hot Wired Brent Mason pedal is also another great dual function overdrive pedal to check out.

[@adbraham]

To my ear the Amp 11 nails it! Limitations of listening to this on an iPad not being representative fully understood of course 😉

[@davidhunter3762]

Great video Dan and Mick!! I bought a Budda Zenman OD/Boost Pedal, which is very similar to the featured pedals. The boost side can be used independently to the overdrive to give a clean boost but is always after the OD. Great vintage/phat switch too for OD variation. Now discontinued, but half the cost of what it was new, so I bought 2. Cheaper than the Tone City pedal too :-)

[@PMUP2016]

Thanks for all your demos and shows. I have learned a lot and best of all I get tom hear pedals I have never been able to use before. I ended up purchasing several pedals featured on your shows. Some ideas I would like to see you do on some future shows is exploring Vox AC30 in a pedal and a look at the SansAmp Character series. Love to know how they stack up!

[@pawelJonline]

thanks to you, I bought my koB. It is amazing, great and so cheap!

[@GregoryStoner]

Recently picked up a Sabelya KOT drive pedal, it is great substitute for a King of Tone. Had fun hitting it with a Hudson Sidecar. It has a purple powder coat. Great looking pedal as well.

[@LukeTozer]

Oh and how good did that Gretsch sound?!?!! The way it was just drifting into feedback, amazing!!!

[@VERBANDTREM]

Great comparison! Thanks for another great episode!

[@genrlgadget]

I love your channel -- you've given all of your viewers so much useful information and history... Well done guys. Thank you. But here's my quandary... I love pedals--and there are so many great sounding ones -- I want them all. For me, the pinnacle of electric guitar sounds is a cranked Plexi (Superlead). (Think AC/DC's If You Want Blood track.) I bought a Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret that I used with my Marshall DSL 40C. That was until Marshall came out with the Origin 20C. So here's the rub... Many pedals come close to "that" sound, but I haven't heard a reasonable-y priced pedal that can compete. (You guys played one on the Do You Think I'm Plexi video that blew me away... For about $400. Ridiculous!) But it all seems to be about trade-offs. Either you have a great clean tone and are compromising on your overdriven sound using pedals, or you have a great amp-overdriven tone and are left with a less than optimal clean tone rolling back the guitar volume. This is the struggle that all of my guitar-playing friends struggle with. Is there an episode in here somewhere that you guys could lend your expertise to?

[@JohnShalamskas]

3 places you should investigate for excellent Plexi tone. 1) Lawrence Petross Designs LPD Sixty 8, LPD Seventy 4, and LPD Eighty 7 pedals. 2) PedalPalFX 800, PedalPalFX 959 3) Source Audio L.A. Lady (cheapest of all these options and the most versatile. I have an L.A. Lady on my pedalboard.)

[@johanhallgren6717]

The KOT dosen't sound like a pedal, it sounds just like a amp turned up. Absolutely fantastic.

[@konnektlive]

Thanks guys again! Analogman King of Tone seems to have a very Sharp attack to it somehow right? Like its a Dry and at the same time Wet sound both together! Very pronounced and to the face attack which makes it a unique pedal. I especially liked it when you stack the both sides together as it gives you more drive with insane clarity and note separation. All the other pedals were great but KOT was very unique IMHO. Cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+konnektlive yep, it's special :)

[@bruiserbrawler8054]

The Ibanez TS808DX works in a similar fashion. TS on one side and Boost on the other and the order can be switched from the outside. I have every Full-Drive, including the 3. I do love it but the Tubescreamer is my favourite.

[@modestd287]

I recently bought 4 of the Tone City pedals and I would highly recommend them. The King of Blues and the Model V are currently my favourites, I'm still waiting for the Model M to be delivered which just might nudge ahead of the V as my favourite but I'll have to wait and see. The King of Blues though is an awesome sounding overdrive

[@groundzerro]

They all sound good on this end, but KOT ahhhhh maybe it is that sunny face looking back at you.

[@aaronblack7711]

While I wait out my King of Tone waitlist position, I'm stacking an Archer iKon into a Mooer Blues Crab (BB V1 clone). Really sweet tone!

[@PaisleyWilde]

Personally the King of Tone is still my favourite, though I must admit that the T.Rex is pretty excellent too. The only way I can qualify the difference is that I find the other choices to sound a little artificial to my ears. But hey, to each their own! Have you heard that Way Huge are re-releasing the Camel Toe? There's another unique dual overdrive!

[@hamwerd]

I have to say...atleast through the Phones, the Lovepedal AMP11 wiped the floor with all of them including the KOT. That Gretsch tone, though...unreal!!! Great job, as always, guys!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Drew Hammond love the Amp11, it's next in my list :)

[@banjoplayerx]

Great video. You made me buy a Moeller2 because it sounded so great :-)

[@NeilPhillipsRules]

I'm on my 2nd KoT, and just wasn't bonding with it (again). Thanks to this video, I adjusted the presence controls, and have discovered a pedal that sounds great. The Amp Eleven sounded best to me too, but the KoT with more presence is a much nicer pedal, and really does what I need (at last!).

[@JohnShalamskas]

Try it at 18V power if it is a version 4 KoT. (The capacitors have to be rated for at least 25V to do this.) It makes the clean headroom quite a bit higher.

[@Driftuner]

wow...what a quick brush on the tonecity! man, that thing (at least here on KZbin) sounded SPOT ON with the KoT! I mean c'mon seriously...the slightest difference between them isnt even worth considering the price difference plus the unacceptable waiting time....it would be nice if you could tell us a bit more why (in the room) is it not "up there" with the KoT as mentioned in the video, since their tones through the video are nearly identical...if anything the tonecity even has a bit more "presence" i guess? it has a slight more evident clarity to its tone in my opinion...i am struggling to see why and how would the KoT sound "that" much better in the room really...

[@JoshLikesFuzz]

Different spin on this but I don't consider the waiting time "unacceptable", Analogman are a small operation of highly knowledgeable and skilled individuals producing a product to their own design at a consistent high quality with fantastic follow up customer service and paying their staff to do so. Tone City is a made in China mass produced copy of another product with all that entails, its not just a tone conversation, its a sustainability and ethical one too.

[@elonimran3013]

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[@enriquezakai7612]

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[@elonimran3013]

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[@elonimran3013]

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[@boucharding]

I actually use my boost on the left way more and then throw on the OD, the boost gets really good. I have had mine for 3 years. Nothing can beat it, I have tried to find anything that could improve upon it and cannot.

[@WutipongWongsakuldej]

Just saw Tommy Emanuel played live here last weekend. His cadcading harmonic is unreal!

[@colinrobertson4569]

Just starting to love my KOT. Very natural sounding pedal. The amp 11 does sound great though.

[@dasbear10]

Great as always chaps, would love a KOT but to be honest my Marshall guvnor mk1 does everything I need at the moment. Would love you guys to do an amp speaker upgrade vid, for cheaper amps like the tweed blues Jr etc please

[@samatkinsphotography]

Another wonderful video chaps. My personal favourite for years has been the Blackstone Appliances MOSFET overdrive - I'm sure both of you have heard of it but if not happy to send you mine to obsess over!

[@samatkinsphotography]

+sam atkins And that Gretsch sounded fabulous...Want!

[@DB.KOOPER]

Wow, love that Strat... Keely Mod BD-1 is my personal fav. OD (through either my PV Classic 50 2x12, a truly amazing and under-rated amp IMO, or my Super Reverb/both as well) and has been on my board for over a decade now. Love the thing. I'd gladly run a KOT but I don't feel like spending teh cash or the time to get one so until I do the BD-1 does "me" perfectly. Thanks for the great show aye. Cheers

[@LukeTozer]

Cheers guys, such an informative video. You've made me pine for that Moller so thanks a lot for that!! My bank balance Hayes TPS ;-) As a Fulldrive 3 owner I find the same as you did - you need to use quite extreme settings to really dial it in. I always seemed to lean toward the wide asym and comp cut modes, the 90s is too compressed for my liking.

[@mennowokke2965]

Hi guys! Love your videos and enthusiasm about searching that perfect tone! You guys mentioned that the KoT will work with almost every style of amp. I am really wondering if it would work with my Marshall JCM 2000 60w tsl 602. I have a visual sound Route 66 pedal ( compressor and tubescreamer type of overdrive) and it has a lot of mids.

[@marcelchannon6007]

Since this is based off the BluesBreaker, it would have been cool to stack two cheap clones. Compare the KOT to two Mooer Blues Crabs.

[@abnzg]

well, the Blues Crab (have one, love it) doesn't have the switches. So you can't compare a KOT set to "boost+OD" to two "OD" Blues Crabs.

[@eryckcrypton6412]

Nov 2023... The waiting list is now what... 5,6 years? I first heard a KOT through a super reverb 10 years ago in 2013, but it was just used as a "transparent clean boost", and I remember thinking "man what a waste! Meanwhile I've been watching sooo many "KOT style pedal" videos in my search for an alternative to Fulldrive II on Comp Cut mode, and endlessly procrastinating on buying a lowly Joyo King Of Kings for a whole year 😂 ... Finally pulled the trigger today!

[@VonBluesman]

12:00 a.m. and here I go watching this video again. LOL 😂 🎸👍👏✌️🇺🇸😎

[@Millennial_Mike]

I've FINALLY placed my order... took 3 and a half years to get to the top of the list lol... thanks Dan.

[@manifestgtr]

Hahah yeah...same here... I got a prince of tone thinking it would be maybe a year wait until my number was up for the kot? That was in June of 2017....

[@mrzachd93]

Hey Gents, Killer Video as always! It'd be awesome to see you guys do a video on the different Amp classes like class A, Class A/B?!! cheers!

[@nicolasastiarraga2644]

Great video! as usual. Thank you!. Dan, What do you think about XOTIC BBplus. Its my main boost overdrive main pedal for me is a very versatile pedal (with lot of eq comp and signal chain) Do you think is near to the King of tone pedal?

[@anthonydallarosa8314]

I'm loving that Lazy J! I'm a big fan of using graphic eq's throughout my board and I'm pretty sure that with a nice graphic eq and something with comparable transient response you could do the KOT thing pretty easily. Any suggestions from my fellow TPS fans regarding pedals with KoT transients? I was thinking the J was a touch too quick, probably the T-Rex. I honestly can't wait to try the Keeley D+M drive... That looks really awesome!

[@rockstardr]

I'm still returning to these videos and still on the KOT wait list..... just a reminder of what an influence your videos have had on me.

[@rockstardr]

Waiting as of 3/15/18

[@northof50now]

I waited about 19 months. I've had mine for a couple years. Though only my opinion...and I'm happy I have it...it is far from my favorite overdrive. It's a great pedal, but can seem compressed compared to some others. Thus far, I seem to get the best out of it by pushing the volume, and pulling back the drive on the pedal. Guessing you should be close to getting yours by the time I type this.

[@BV_Beve]

Great insights and information as always, KoT pretty special lots of good stuff from the rest though too. And particularly like the built in timing of the 'falling tiles' or have you rigged them on remote to the G2 !!!! ;) If the KoT didn't exist then very possibly the T-Rex Møller 2 but the fun is having many to switch between and also add and add to the collection ......

[@Janmann2007]

I'm a little late to the party, but a pedal that sounds as neutral as is get is available in Germany. It's called Baldringer Dual Drive and it's basically sort of a preamp that you plug into a clean amplifier - that sounds almost exactly like the amp after it - regardless of which amp it actually is. A Fender Princeton will sound like a Princeton and a Marshall Super Lead 100 will sound like that. I urge you to check it out. The guy also designed a couple of amps for Hughes&Kettner by the way (I think Duotone and/or Puretone were the ones). It's even better than the King of Tone to my ear as it has more of that depth, dynamics and three-dimensionality of a really good amp. It also has a complete EQ-section for each of the two channels plus a Mode-switch with which one can affect the mid-range additionally. As if that weren't enough there's a few pots inside the pedal that can switch treble boost frequencies, low or high gain settings and couple of other things. The pedal comes with a lifetime warranty and Dirk Baldringer offers a range of mods for the pedal to make it sound like another type of amp instead of the completely neutral "default" setting. There's Bogner, Fender, Marshall, Mesa and couple of other mods. Again, I strongly urge you guys to check it out, simply because it is likely to be one of the best pedals out there. Downside: It costs 450€ plus shipping. I personally own one and have the fortune of living just 60km north of Dirk Baldringer's studio and could test it there before buying it. I went for a version with a Marshall JCM800 2203 like-Mod (He has an original from 1981 there and there is very little difference with the Dual Drive and my JTM45) and a neutral channel that sounds exactly - and I mean exactly - like the cranked version of my clean JTM45.

[@yomanb258]

Great video as usual!! Alternative worth a try is the Oddfellow Caveman v2 overdrive. Bought it while waiting on my king is f tone.... Now I use either.

[@yomanb258]

The great feature with the caveman is the boost that you can assign post or pre overdrive guys you should really check it out!!!

[@NasserSharaf]

Based soley on what I'm hearing in this clip, the Amp Elven is my first pick! It's so dynamic and alive and that extra bite would serve it well cutting through a mix without being too brittle or harsh - Lovely pedal. Thanks guys!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Nasser Sharaf It's a good sound for sure! We'd always encourage everyone to watch as many other demos as you can, and - of course - try one personally if at all possible. We're just one stop on your journey. Thanks for watching!

[@NasserSharaf]

+That Pedal Show Absolutely! And as has been mentioned many times on this show, one needs to consider how all the various components in the signal chain interact. The type of gtr, pup's, amp, cables, and especially the individual's personal touch and attack. Keep up the great work guys - Fridays couldn't come soon enough!

[@nevinbaskin8066]

Nice tone when your playing on your own but does it change when you’re playing with your band. Is the mix a variable? And if so which of these would function best?

[@ChoreoProBoy]

Fantastic content as usual. If I were nitpicking though, and I'm sure many strat owners would agree, I would say there needed to be a tad more even distribution between LP and Strat

[@bsdaldal]

Hey guys, cheers from İstanbul/Turkey! It is kinda hard to find&try most of those lovely pedals here so your videos are a great reference for me. I watch them over and over again! Before your show i used to order the pedal from ebay and try after i spend a good amount of money. I know there are lots of other pedal videos on KZbin but none is on par with yours both information-wise and sound quality-wise. I also like your guitar playing, both of you have nice chops and a good touché. I have one question for you...I use an xotic BB+ and love the blue side of the pedal a lot but the red side (boost i guess) sounds dull and distant. I can't use that side alone or stacked with the blue side. Do you have any advises for me to win that part of the pedal back? It has a lot of bells and whistles and maybe (most probably) i am doing something wrong. Thank you very much and rock on!

[@GazMoz78]

Superb video as per usual gents:-) Annnnnd..... I'm gonna be one of those people who say I don't think the king of tone is worth the wait or the money. Don't get me wrong it does sound great, but not that great, it's like a deluxe Tubescreamer to my ears. Really liked the open crunch of the Lovepedal and lets face it for the money the Tone City shows them all up as being a bit pricey, did I just say that!!!!!!! Great video keep up the good work

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Gary Moseley cheers Gary. Like we said, it's so subjective, but that extra 2% Schwang value is what we spend years trying to nail down. All part of the process :)

[@ThatPedalShow]

+That Pedal Show I just want to add to this (Mick). As much as we try to demonstrate the differences between pedals, there is still a MASSIVE part of the sound that's only appreciable when you're in the room. All our videos are really just here to get you to ask new questions and set out on a quest of your own. All of which is to say, please compare our videos with other videos and try to hear this stuff in person. The nuances are important, putting them across on video is impossible. We will continue to try. Thanks for watching!

[@Finniganmydog]

+Gary Moseley I agree - to each their own. Fo me, the King of Tone or the Klon just are not by cups of tea.

[@GazMoz78]

Yeah KZbin is never going to reflect the absolute true nature of the pedal, but it's in comparing pedals on videos like this that you do get to hear them alongside other pedals through KZbin. This is why KZbin demos are relevant because everything is receiving the YT/internet treatment. Bought an exotic bb pre amp a few years ago on the strength of its YT performance and I wasn't disappointed

[@POGFROGULPOP]

Who else wants a long sleeved, 2 toned shirt made available, same as Dan is wearing?

[@Ramen4Days]

+POG FROGULPOP Me.

[@9999plato]

Hey guys make 3x shirts available please! Big dudes play too!

[@mattgilbert7347]

POG FROGULPOP I'm wearing one right now!

[@johnroberts838]

Hi Guys, excellent demo, Dan's playing with the Gretchw as just beautiful, as for the Pedals I loved the Amp 11 and the Tim Pierce absolutely killer tones!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+John Roberts ah, cheers John. Yep, such great sounding pedals paired with these amps :)

[@johnroberts838]

That Pedal Show, Thank you so much for your reply, much appreciated, I have a Spinal injury at the moment and need to lay down for several hours a day and being a Pedal junkie your Show really helps relieve the boredom, by the way Dan if you are ever in Melbourne, Australia I would love you to help me out with my Pedal Board :). Thank you again to both of you, Kind regards, take care.

[@paullobiando5007]

I very much liked the way Dan plugged in the Gretsch and starting channeling Pete Townshend - there were some real, vintage Who sounds in there! (Sadly, I also just found out that Andy Thunderclap Newman died today. I loved that album...)

[@williedeuel]

I'm stunned at how well the Tone City hung in there with that batch of more expensive pedals. I have their Bad Horse (Klone) and like the way it sounds, too.

[@Musicsports]

I had a tone city bad horsie and KTR. I loved the TC, shouldn't have sold it. I also have an Analogman POT with j chip and a Maxon 0d 9 silver mod. Love it

[@6stringlounge813]

Thanks Guys! Don't forget to try the oddfellow caveman overdrive, it has replaced my KOT, the KOT is amazing but it still sounds like a pedal the caveman overdrive sounds and feels like a great tube amp!

[@windmillcancersurvivor2568]

The pedals, fab clothing, dope gear all here on That Pedal Show. Thanks guys. My son plays out with a Les Paul standard and Super Reverb and it is a great combination. I'm 5 months on the KOT list. Thumbs up on your shirt design. You look like teenagers.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Mr. mips Cheers Mr Mips. Yes, the Super really is, well, super! :)

[@Ramen4Days]

Made me miss my Gretsch something FIERCE, gentlemen. Great, as always. KoT sounds like it's worth a year wait. Also loved the Amp Eleven!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+David Washburn yeah, so cool. KoT remains firmly seated in his throne

[@bumblefritz]

The amp 11 sounds really good. Honestly through the video the differences between the King of Blues and King Of Tone seem really minimal. Maybe it's different in person and the KOT has a little more tweakability with the internal switching but the KOB seems very usable, especially for the price.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Bumblefritz KOB is amazing value, but it’s not the original

[@gdasilva]

Also the "magic" (functionality) of the KoT has a lot to do on how it sounds in a mix, real band situation. I think all of these pedals sounded good on their own, but in a mix is the litmus test for any gear. I don't own a KoT yet, oh but I will because I have heard it live so many times with other bands that it is just a matter of dollar bills accumulating well enough. Anyhow, I love this channel and look forward to it weekly!

[@guythompson8908]

I love this show!! It's like learning from Obi Wan all the things you need to know to make wise choices. Is there not a pedal that would replace the name drop horn? There gotta be a pedal! Doesn't have to sound like a horn...

[@wagnernoise]

I really liked the Amp Eleven and Tim Pierce pedals, they sound amazing! Thanks for another great video guys! Cheers

[@Thomasdgolden]

I waited for My KOT so long I forgot I was on the list. I spent years, using, mixing and modding Overdrive/Boosts. I wound up eventually settling for the Wampler Euphoria, then the Tumnus as another boost. Years, I searched and then the KOT came. My search ended and I am fulfilled. I'm still keep the "Tum" on my board but it's more homage to Brian than anything else. I love the KOT. It doesn't hurt to add your name to the list. It's free to be on the list. It's just a great pedal. Perfect.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Tommy Golden Glad it lived up to your expectations Tommy. Nice one!

[@Thomasdgolden]

That Pedal Show one more thing Easter egg...the Opamps can be changed out easily. I had two opamps from an old radio. I emailed Mike to ensure they were ok to use and I use one on my clean side. (It turns out it's an DOD opamp that Mike uses on other Mods he does. But hey...that's certainly another great thing about the KOT.

[@modestoney1577]

21:45 "...not up there...." well, it pretty much is actually, it is just hard to admit for someone who spent three times the money and thought to be in an exclusive owners club ;)

[@TheGeriatricZoomer]

I say if you don't want to spend KOT money or go through the waiting period, I would go with the Amp 11. I was considering getting a KOT but then I decided to just go with the Amp 11. Now, I'm not even considering getting anything else. It is definitely my favorite overdrive pedal.

[@THINCOVER]

If anyone is interesting in these kind of pedals but still prefer the ts808 sound, there is a new ts808dx. It's just a tube screamer with a boost. Very nice indeed.

[@mikeholland1461]

What ever that was at 12:40 to 12:43 was pure magic!

[@cotepj]

Amp 11 sold out! Hmmmm......I wonder why. And thanks, guys, for helping turn my Strat / Deluxe Reverb into a tone machine. LOVE my Muffroom Cloud - and how I can dial in the warmth just so. Never miss a show - You've got a growing following here in Northampton Massachusetts!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+cotepj thanks Cotepj, yeah, Muffroom, what a corker!

[@mattflickinger8151]

Just buy 2 Prince of Tones and tape them together! I got one use for $160, still figuring it all out, but like that OD selector switch is on the top.

[@jordanbrazinski8260]

There's something magical about a strat with the right drive.

[@jordandedomusic]

Dan, sorry if I missed this somewhere but have you noticed any difference in tone/feel between the high gain and standard KOT? Obviously with gain maxed there will be but if you roll the gain back on the high gain, does it do exactly what the standard gain version does in terms of response and compression? Thanks

[@bengalvin9932]

there is now a waiting list for the AMP11!