That Pedal Show - How To Mic Your Guitar Amp: Mic Types, Positions & All That Stuff

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That Pedal Show

That Pedal Show

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Welcome to That Pedal Show! Please subscribe to our channel and visit our store www.thatpedalshowstore.com
Life too short for long KZbin videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
In this episode we take a trip through the basics and fundamentals of micing your guitar amp or cabinet. That’s to say putting a microphone in front of your speaker for the purposes of recording or live work.
We cover three main areas. Firstly, common mic types including dynamic moving coil, dynamic ribbon and a large diaphragm condenser/capacitor. There are others, but these are the common types used for guitar amps.
Secondly we look at mic position across the face of the speaker, and thirdly, mic distance away from the speaker, including a little bit on mixing mics. We even play over some short backing tracks to demonstrate!
We don’t get into audio post processing or EQ: this is just about mics on guitar amps and cabs.
If you mic amps regularly you will know all this stuff already. If you don’t, you might just find it illuminating. Enjoy the episode!
PLEASE NOTE: We haven’t talked about preamps, input gain, signal strength or anything else like that in this video. The principles of plugging mics into a desk/recorder are the same as recording anything else. You need to set the optimum input gain for a decent signal without overloading the preamp. If you would like to delve more deeply into this, including understanding how modern DAWs differ from traditional analogue gear, this is a brilliant article from our friends at Sound On Sound magazine: www.soundonsound.com/technique...
Gear in this episode…
• Fender Hot Rod Deluxe - No longer made, link to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2nuCUpj
USA: imp.i114863.net/0q2VP
• Sennheiser e906 mic
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tPloz3
USA: imp.i114863.net/Oqz7z
• Sontronics Delta ribbon mic
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2swi3kk
• Sontronics Orpheus condenser mic
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tP7b4U
• Zoom F8 Recorder
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tP2l7T
USA: imp.i114863.net/MOg73
* Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro & background: 00:00
- The three things we’re doing today: 2:50
- Moving coil, ribbon and capacitor mics: 4:25 & 5:40 (sounds at 8:38)
- How do you choose a mic? 10:35
- Gain sounds with the three mics: 14:34
- Mic position across the face of the speaker? 15:50 (sounds at 17:00 and 18:48)
- As above, but with a gainy sound: 20:30
- Distance micing and room sound discussion: 24:30
- Polar patterns: 25:48
- Distance micing with a clean sound examples: 27:50
- Square law? 31:20
- THERE IS NO RIGHT WAY! 33:20
- Distance micing with a gained sound examples: 33:48
- How we mic amps for That Pedal Show: 37:45
- The Room mic: 40:03
- Mic positions including some backing track action: 44:03
- Phase?: 47:10
Guitars in this episode
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
Collings 360LT with Lollar Gold Foil pickups
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@joshuadawes6054
@joshuadawes6054 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else re-watching this to be re-educated whilst attempting some home recording during lockdown..? Stay safe everyone.
@marianofernandez3600
@marianofernandez3600 4 жыл бұрын
here too mate
@jamesemerson4102
@jamesemerson4102 4 жыл бұрын
yep and depressed that the ribbon mics are 10000000000x more expensive than the other mics : (
@peterfusco4832
@peterfusco4832 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@thelimper5313
@thelimper5313 7 жыл бұрын
I can only watch 2/3 of your videos before you are drowned out by the noise of my guitar.
@rkharper
@rkharper 7 жыл бұрын
happens to me all.the.time!!! but not today, it was way too interesting to skip!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Kane Dypka Excellent! We'd call that a win-win!
@jesseyasaitis9036
@jesseyasaitis9036 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guilty of that too. Also, as far as ocd goes, I wont freak out as long as you sit on the same side.
@ccollas13
@ccollas13 7 жыл бұрын
+1
@abelramirez7320
@abelramirez7320 7 жыл бұрын
TRUE. This also happens to me when I'm watching movies or TV.
@johnballantyne3458
@johnballantyne3458 6 жыл бұрын
"Axis: Bold as Miking" is my favourite album by Jimi Impedance.
@ekdguitar123
@ekdguitar123 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the one where he does the impy dance at Woodstock?
@jamescourt2842
@jamescourt2842 6 ай бұрын
I watch that at ohm all time…
@scottwillott1
@scottwillott1 7 жыл бұрын
I am having a few beers in the land of Oz & That Pedal Show just showed up in my subscriptions.....I am very happy to be alive
@19markz67
@19markz67 7 жыл бұрын
scottwillott1 Having a drink in California and feeling the same. Cheers.
@Roman_andtheprey
@Roman_andtheprey 6 жыл бұрын
scottwillott1 it's a great beer night binge watch. Welcome friend!
@jetsetbetties
@jetsetbetties 7 жыл бұрын
I think what you two are doing is really changing the standard for how videos on guitar sound are done. Even as goofy as it is, this video is so thorough, using video and sound to show us what is going on, with careful explanation at each step. These videos will stand as the go-to's for how-to's for years to come! Well done, gentlemen.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Turner ah, cheers Matt :)
@williamklimek9676
@williamklimek9676 5 жыл бұрын
Dan and Mick, it is very important that no one EVER hook up a PASSIVE ribbon mic to phantom power, as that will destroy the ribbon element. If one is using an ACTIVE ribbon, it requires phantom power, but none should ever confuse these two, and always know that if phantom power is switched on a mixer or a channel from a preamp, NEVER plug in a PASSIVE ribbon mic to that device or channel. A cloud lifter is often used to boost signal from a dynamic mic, say a Shure SM7 b or a passive ribbon mice, and it may require phantom power to activate the lifter, but it will not pass the 48v phantom power to the mic. Please pass the warning along, thanks.
@wlawnsldj
@wlawnsldj 4 жыл бұрын
It’s been two years but this is gold. Especially now I’m obsessed with mics and using multiple with my amp.
@konnektlive
@konnektlive 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! At last! I asked you for this couple of times and finally! I'm gonna enjoy it for sure. Cheers!
@benmurray1019
@benmurray1019 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, good to see a visual and aural representation of how the positioning affects the tone, i think its even more crucial for a gainy sound. Really helpful for those of us who don't have a studio setting to test these things. BTW the soundman placing a mic on the amp head has happened to me, however a funnier one is one of my fellow guitar players was experiencing 60 cycle hum from his rig, then i watched the sound man get down to his pedalboard with his ear flush to the pedals to see which one was humming, speechless
@JensenDKMG85
@JensenDKMG85 7 жыл бұрын
I think I've learned more watching this show than I have in the last 10 years. It's not always about technique or ability in your playing ( though I still need major help here, but that's on me to practice). Thank you guys so much for all the info and making it digestible, and direct and fun!
@DevilMayAsian
@DevilMayAsian 7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Glenn's Mic episode and being blown away by the impact of micing. An excellent refresher with my band heading to the studio to record soon. Great episode!
@miikaelorav
@miikaelorav 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, this is exactly what I wanted. your videos have been an immense help ever since I started my 'tone journey' and after a year of playing I'm just starting to reach the point where your videos make sense. keep going guys, great stuff!
@AlexChurchMusic
@AlexChurchMusic 7 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great to see a video of your ideal rigs. For example, everything from your favorite guitars to your favorite pedals to your favorite amp configuration to create your favorite tones!
@NathanNagel
@NathanNagel 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Church hope you’re still watching because this just happened.
@MarkArtyniuk
@MarkArtyniuk 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing as always to both of you. Thanks very much for showing the context of the mics in a mix at the end. Lots of helpful stuff again this week, keep up the good work.
@calebriley7466
@calebriley7466 6 жыл бұрын
What I like most about both of you, and the reason I subscribed is your attitude towards life. I can see you guys are passionate about what you do and the joy, positivity, and enthusiasm can be seen in every video. Keep on rockin mate!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caleb - the only reason we do this is because we love it. Thanks for watching!
@TNTales
@TNTales 7 жыл бұрын
Every time I think I've got my sound down and have everything I need you guys do an episode and I'm like, "ooh, I need one of those!" Great show as always.
@tokoulli1
@tokoulli1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I am in the midst of a recording session in a very high profile studio in 6 months, and you solved my issue in how to mic my amp properly. I cannot thank you enough :D
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+tokoulli1 our pleasure :)
@xanderlnelson4369
@xanderlnelson4369 7 жыл бұрын
YES! I've been waiting for this one. Cheers, lads!
@geetarbube
@geetarbube 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool video, guys, and those backing track bits were glorious. Damn, I love Friday mornings with That Pedal Show!
@killat0r
@killat0r 7 жыл бұрын
AWESOME episode guys!! I asked a question on a video a couple of days ago regarding what Mic's you use on the amps, and you release this episode today! Amazing! Love you guys, and the show!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Burdy Yeah baby!
@Danocaster214
@Danocaster214 7 жыл бұрын
Guys! What an awesome video. This really usable advice. I don't have access to the recording software and mics you guys have so this shows me what to look for when miking my little combo amp. I use an sm57 and I've never been happy with the low-end response. I might just upgrade to the e906 after hearing this. Thanks for what you do!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Danocaster cheers D, so glad you dig our stuff :)
@joecoombsguitarist
@joecoombsguitarist 7 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the best videos on micing up a guitar amp ever, so helpful guys! Awesome work!
@alanhaynes418
@alanhaynes418 7 жыл бұрын
I've tried almost everything, and the one I keep coming back to is the Beyer M160 ribbon - not too close, and angle it from edge to centre of the cone to get more/less brightness. I've been using mine for 30 years now, and it's always given me a sound which is good to incredible.
@larrimos
@larrimos 7 жыл бұрын
Blown away. I had no idea about most of this. The differences in sound in relation to mic placement is profound.....wow.
@abramtreadwell722
@abramtreadwell722 7 жыл бұрын
The e906 sounds great. Best of all worlds IMO. Great with cleans and OD. I bought one a few months ago and I think it's fantastic.
@Shadoweclipse1386
@Shadoweclipse1386 7 жыл бұрын
The e906 is my personal favorite, but I really like the addition of the XY room mic. it's like an analog dry-through on a reverb pedal: you've still got your attack, but with a little extra something. Great video guys!
@noahVITP
@noahVITP 7 жыл бұрын
Man, I love this channel. The stuff I learned from you guys have been some of the most valuable info regarding guitars that I've ever come across. You made me realize I need proper power for my pedals (which was a huge deal for me) and you also inspired me to really get my pedal board to a better level. You guys have opened me up to so many new tonal possibilities. For example, I just bought a Mesa lone star special and got it in the mail yesterday, and Mick inspired me to do so! I know you have the LSC, but that's beside the point. I never would've bought a Mesa before, and I absolutely love this amp. I guess I just want to say thanks for being so awesome. Also, I love that you're pretty much the only channel that talks about Kingsley pedals. You need to pull a few strings and get Simon to send you one of his amps! I'm on the waitlist (2.5 years!!) but I'd love to see more of his stuff in your show.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+NTfilms Thank you for such a ringing endorsement. We're very glad to have you on board - enjoy that LS! :0)
@konstapelwalander
@konstapelwalander 5 жыл бұрын
No that's a linear law. I think you are meaning the inverse square law (applies to photography as well) which states that if the mic distance is doubled, the sound intensity is (1/2)^2= 1/4, only one quarter of the original mic position's intensity. Thanks for a very wholesome video! Cheers
@BollocksUtwat
@BollocksUtwat 4 жыл бұрын
Watching you two react to one another as you played over the backing tracks was a treat.
@Zuhlsmann1
@Zuhlsmann1 6 жыл бұрын
I use a 609 too! Excellent video! It's amazing how much different just an inch off center to the cone makes!
@mikeroadblock
@mikeroadblock 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you a million times for making this amazing resource. Love you guys!
@traviswilliams1504
@traviswilliams1504 7 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES YES!! Haven't even watched it yet but know it's going to be a great vid. Can't wait to watch when I get home. Thank you for covering such important topics.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+SupaTravis Williams Thanks for watching - hope you enjoy the show!
@henrysoults3773
@henrysoults3773 7 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I got an internship at a studio last year in an attempt to find out what to do with my life, (turns out I probably want to be an engineer) and this was very informative, encouraging, and fun to watch. Keep up the great work!
@adamloris
@adamloris 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guys! Very very helpful
@johnpatchymillar8367
@johnpatchymillar8367 7 жыл бұрын
Dan, I've got to say mate, every time I watch the show I always get excited when you play. You've got so many cool licks that I keep trying to incorporate into my playing. Seriously love your playing man. Cheers for inspiring a young Queenslander! Much platonic love.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+John Patchy Millar ah, cheers John. That's what it's all about :) QUEENSLANDER!
@slashaholicanonymous
@slashaholicanonymous 7 жыл бұрын
Good fun infotainment and a relevant topic to the vast majority of guitarists. Well done as always!
@LostPlanet2024
@LostPlanet2024 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic! I've been discovering how touchy any variable can be, can be very frustrating. This helps!
@jmath679
@jmath679 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video guys! I've never miced an amp, nor tried to learn about it either so what you've show me here will be very helpful in knowing what I want in the micing section of my two notes cab! It wasn't that cab sim video that is incoming someday, but it's still massively applicable!
@bryanstansbury5802
@bryanstansbury5802 7 жыл бұрын
This video is super helpful I really appreciate you guys literally would be lost without you guys!
@natecol9322
@natecol9322 7 жыл бұрын
I've always had trouble getting a good dirt sound from a condenser/capacitor, but it's fantastic for cleans. Ended up settling on a sm57 for dirty and a condenser/capacitor (or both) for cleans! And thanks for the awesome post editing!
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 7 жыл бұрын
+ Nate Col - Shure sure got the SM 57 and 58 right the first time around. All these years later and they're still in use world-wide. Basically the Strat and Les Paul of microphones.
@Ibanezman03
@Ibanezman03 7 жыл бұрын
Really depends on the mic. I use a Neumann KM140 for most everything /sometimes with a Sennheiser MD441/ and it makes the guitars sit with bass and vocals instantly.
@natecol9322
@natecol9322 7 жыл бұрын
Ibanezman03 100%!!! I'm sure a better quality mic would help, but I'm speaking mainly from a budget friendly point of view. Condensers around the same price point as an sm57 just don't cut it for higher gain sounds IMO.
@Ibanezman03
@Ibanezman03 7 жыл бұрын
Jup, definitely. Investing in 1 or 2 Neumann- pencil condensers is definitely worth it. You can use them for most everything and they are durable like a sm57.
@TheDogPa
@TheDogPa 7 жыл бұрын
I love the SM27. Great for just about everything and takes high SPL. I used to have a pair and used them for everything. Great close and far on guitar.
@victor2510
@victor2510 4 жыл бұрын
Getting back to this video and didn’t read the description before, the SOS article is pretty good thanks!
@KartikHariharan
@KartikHariharan Жыл бұрын
16:24 "Generally speaking... generally speaker-ing.." Haha! THat was amazing Mick! :D
@rynoriffs6505
@rynoriffs6505 7 жыл бұрын
great episode guys! very informative. look forward to the show each week, love it. thumbs up from down under!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Hilton Cheers Ryan!
@Messier31NGC224
@Messier31NGC224 7 жыл бұрын
Very well done video!! I learned a lot, and enjoyed it.
@dobby240
@dobby240 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I'm about to re-amp something I've been working on for a while and this is going to help my choices. Thanks :D
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful guys, especially since I'm getting ready to jump into the world of recording .
@juanmartinreborati7928
@juanmartinreborati7928 7 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Thanks a lot guys!
@Webgkil
@Webgkil 7 жыл бұрын
FINALLY we(I) get to hear your playing in a "band" context!!!!!Best part of the video!!!!
@FarewellApollo
@FarewellApollo 7 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, detailed and informative on an incredibly important and overlooked aspect of guitar playing and recording. Very well done
@shaunoleary8740
@shaunoleary8740 Ай бұрын
Excellent video. Very helpful!
@mattwatsonthesecrethelicopters
@mattwatsonthesecrethelicopters 5 жыл бұрын
Really great video guys. Explained really well. A dry subject yes but important nonetheless. Really helped me venture into recording electric guitar.
@mesadurham
@mesadurham 7 жыл бұрын
I have watched a lot of your videos. I enjoy them all, but this one was outstanding for being so informative and eye opening! As always, thanks for sharing your insights!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+mesadurham Thank you!
@degani.guilherme
@degani.guilherme 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO, guys!!!! Nailed it!!! cheers from Brazil!!!
@clintlombard1014
@clintlombard1014 7 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Thanks so much guys. Quick question: have you ever had a "love/hate" relationship with a pedal? What pedal was it, what was the issue, and what did you do about it? Thanks a heap!
@Fksu
@Fksu 7 жыл бұрын
Im fully on board with IR now... never thought i would but it definitely improved my live sound a lot. I had tried all, very happy pangeae owner now.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Fabio Suenaga Incredible technology, and we'd say probably better than micing if you play heavier music with a really dense mix. For our kind of thing however - very traditional guitars and vintage style amps and music - you can't beat the sound of a mic on a proper amp. Thing is with a lot of modern heavy music, it's sooooo produced in terms of compression, EQ, quantising etc etc etc, I've been to a few recording sessions with modern bands and just been astounded at how much everything is manipulated. So traditional amps and mics are just a PITA in that situation. May as well do it all digitally from the top. For roots and more vintagey sounds, not so much. In my opinion (Mick here).
@sduke39
@sduke39 7 жыл бұрын
One of your best guys! Well done.
@JKM395
@JKM395 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for doing this. I'm about to start recording with my new amp and I'm totally new at all this. I appreciate the advice.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+JKM395 Excellent - good luck to you. If we may offer a tiny bit of advice... try not to sweat it. Stick the mic a few inches off the grille somewhere just off the centre of the cone. Then concentrate on playing. :0)
@johnbradford2892
@johnbradford2892 7 жыл бұрын
You guys should do more challenges! We love them! A most versatile board challenge would be cool. Least versatile with most pedals, most expensive, etc
@johnbuxton2529
@johnbuxton2529 7 жыл бұрын
Still watching this but the wheely trolley mic stand is brilliant !!! So effective at demonstrating the difference in frequency range depending on mic placement.
@TheBrandonLewis
@TheBrandonLewis 7 жыл бұрын
What a great episode! I've always used dynamic mics, because I was told they were the best long ago. Now hearing this episode I really want a ribbon mic!!!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Lewis Yeah, we're going to be using that mic a LOT more. Needs to be closer to the centre of the speaker for the sizzle, but man it's good! E906 has a nice bit of pronounced upper mid - great for live - but sometimes you don't want that. Thanks for watching!
@johndolan2720
@johndolan2720 7 жыл бұрын
I NEEDED THIS VIDEO, THANKS GUYS!
@EdPettersen
@EdPettersen 7 жыл бұрын
A general note for all: When using more than one mic remember to check your phase relationships gang. Especially with distance micing. (You could really hear it in this wonderful video when the dynamic and condenser were compared and summed during the distance and room micing sections) Cheers!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Ed Pettersen Good shout Ed. We mention phase at the end. Obviously critically important to understand. Not just to make sure it's always in, but to know when it sounds cool out! Thanks for watching!
@EdPettersen
@EdPettersen 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! And one of the first things I learned as an engineer that could be helpful as well to those digging deeper (I know Dan knows this): Polarity is an electromagnetic concept. Phase is a relationship between waves. Rock on!!
@dustinthiessen
@dustinthiessen 7 жыл бұрын
YES! I'm ever so glad you mentioned phase at the end. throughout the video on the double mic'd bits I had this uneasy feeling inside that people were learning double mic'ing without learning about phase coherency! i was indeed screaming at the screen WHAT ABOUT THE PHAAAAASE!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Ed Pettersen Mick knows this too.
@EdPettersen
@EdPettersen 7 жыл бұрын
Of course! I should have known!! g>
@connorjgodfrey
@connorjgodfrey 7 жыл бұрын
This is possibly the best demonstration for anyone wanting to learn about mic placement I have ever seen and I spent three years doing audio engineering at university. I spent £9000 a year and That Pedal Show are doing it better!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Connor Godfrey Wow, thanks Connor!
@francisgori5631
@francisgori5631 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job gentleman- an excellent tutorial on mics, mic positioning, and an overall basic approach to getting tones from an amp. Thank you as always for your dedication to the instrument.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Francis Gori Cheers Francis - we appreciate the appreciation!
@davidrohland9319
@davidrohland9319 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best mic placement tutorial video ever! Thank you so much.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+David Rohland Wow, thanks David - glad you find it useful!
@swafranr
@swafranr 7 жыл бұрын
Very useful video! Esp. the bit at the end that show all the lead/rythm placement/panning combinations. My takeaways: - It turns out my ears liked... a dynamic mic, right on the grill, just off axis. Surprise! But now I know *why* we all do it. - Even better, same but also blend in a condenser a little further away. - For a huge 70s rhythm sound: one close dynamic, one further condenser, each panned all the way L/R. - The room x/y overheads didn't do much for me personally. But I'm sure that depends on the room.
@jasonshrestha
@jasonshrestha Жыл бұрын
45:43 was a perfect demo to show how the positions work! thank you Mick and Dan! Has helped me learn a lot.
@iranp8139
@iranp8139 10 ай бұрын
Nice Sound!!!
@jeandrevanzyl2588
@jeandrevanzyl2588 7 жыл бұрын
Such a useful vid. Thanks guys!
@HenryBrutale
@HenryBrutale 7 жыл бұрын
This video let me understand two things: A) I have to put more attention on how I mic my amp during my gigs; B) Every review on KZbin is highly influenced by micing technics (so maybe crap is not crap..); Thank you guys! You're always great. I definitely have to buy a t-shirt.. :-)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Daniele Rizzetto Incredible isn't it! The recording/post prod is (almost) everything. Thanks for watching!
@giantessmaria
@giantessmaria 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I've read that Jimmy Page actually mic-d up his amps from a different room(very ambient room) in parts of Zep ll to get a natural echo.
@lukepowell1201
@lukepowell1201 7 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video! As a guitarist who's done lot's of playing and very little recording, this was a really informative eye-opening video.
@TheHowardSinclair
@TheHowardSinclair 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys, brings back memories of staying at my mate Pete Harwood's place (Guitarist of Morpheus Rising and guitar tech to Steve Rothery). He'd just got his mic set up on his cab exactly right and was very wary any time my slightly drunken form swayed towards the mics as it had taken him weeks to get them just right. He had a ribbon mic and an SM57. The mixed sound from the two was HUGE! Thinking about investing in the Senneheiser you use here, and possibly a cheaper ribbon mic, to experiment with recording my lovely little Epiphone Century Amp. Maybe next month though ;)
@davidrg1550
@davidrg1550 7 жыл бұрын
great video dispelling a few mic myths, brilliant job
@iwiggs6870
@iwiggs6870 7 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhhh it was the Room Mic! THAT'S what added all the sweetness, a bit of thickness and movement and loveliness to your show! That thing would've been solid gold for the Rotary episode... (PS: You guys ever considered doing an episode about the Boss DS1 and variants? You've done the Tubescreamers so the DS1 seems like a logical next step...)
@justingarcia7722
@justingarcia7722 7 жыл бұрын
Great timing ! I just put the finishing touches on my home studio so have been experimenting with this. So far using an SM57 relatively close and a cascade fat head (great budget ribbon) a little distant. The room has an AkG perception in it. Getting interesting results. Love experimenting with this stuff. Great work guys ! Look into the Two Notes Torpedo CAB as well, excellent tool, especially when paired with a tube preamp like the Kingsley stuff (using effectrode personally)
@hansaspa
@hansaspa 7 жыл бұрын
very helpful! more power and thank you👍👍👍
@benjaminstorm3910
@benjaminstorm3910 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an episode on getting good tones from difficult to use pedals like the fuzz factory!
@jdavis.fw303
@jdavis.fw303 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I've finally found the mythical episode where a loop is used to A/B test something!!! Just kidding, love you guys!
@influxxmedia
@influxxmedia 7 жыл бұрын
Great great show guys. Thx
@2und2sind4
@2und2sind4 7 жыл бұрын
For everyone getting started: a MXL Cube is a great cheap mic to start with. For my band's demos I use it for guitars and vocals. Does a great job
@rkharper
@rkharper 7 жыл бұрын
very very good show today, thanks for that!!!
@83draconian
@83draconian 7 жыл бұрын
Man!! Every single time that Dan plays that Tele in these videos is like "Damn, that Tele sounds GLORIOUS!!"
@chibisven
@chibisven 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely the best one of these kinds of videos I've seen, and in my years of semi-pro recording and live sound (as in I make money but not my primary income) I've seen a LOT of these kinds of videos. You did a killer job at making the right points to get someone thinking about mics and placement correctly. The only thing I would have added is that mics and placement are massively important, but they can only record what's coming out of the amp, and sometimes what sounds good when you're getting "your sound" sounds terrible for a mic that's super close. So I like to think of it as my "live sound" vs my "recording sound" and really my recording sound is just me trying to recreate what the player loves about their live sound. Don't try to sound good in the room, try to sound good in the recording! High fives to the both of you for a great and entertaining video that I'm definitely going to share around.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Sven Johnson Thank you Sven, very kind of you to say and god advice too. Thanks for watching!
@daviddevito2062
@daviddevito2062 7 жыл бұрын
great info . Love your videos...
@e.g.systems6146
@e.g.systems6146 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, VERY useful to actually HEAR the differences between different positions, different mics, etc. Thanks guys.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+E.G. Systems No worries. It was a fun one to do. (For me. Dan was a bit bored bless him. Repayment for the synth episode). :0)
@e.g.systems6146
@e.g.systems6146 7 жыл бұрын
Synth... :O) In the last 27 years, I've watched them come and go, but only recently seen the Fishman Triple Play (and I see the kinda Roland hex pickup still there) and though it actually seems to work, in the end I'd rather make a guitar sound crazy, and use that sound, that do Guitar to MIDI.
@40spinup
@40spinup 7 жыл бұрын
Finally someone agrees with me with the capacitor/ condenser mix up.
@cyrusfontaine2598
@cyrusfontaine2598 7 жыл бұрын
That ribbon is gutsy! I was just at a recording seminar with Mark Hornsby and Don Carr at Sweetwater here in the states specifically on this topic, and they recommended using a ribbon for the chunky low end, and a dynamic for the crisp top end. They used a Royer R121 and an SM57, and it was magic!
@cyrusfontaine2598
@cyrusfontaine2598 7 жыл бұрын
I'm liking the jams and backing tracks of late!
@blakelarson8373
@blakelarson8373 7 жыл бұрын
The blues backing track sounds strikingly like John Mayer's "I'm Gonna Find Another You". Love it!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Blake Larson Same chords, yep. :0)
@temporarylike
@temporarylike 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers guys! Very handy
@thesphericalguy9018
@thesphericalguy9018 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT job!
@thehighadvisor5731
@thehighadvisor5731 7 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration
@TheRealFreekBos
@TheRealFreekBos 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million guys! Very helpfull
@iwannacuddleurbutt
@iwannacuddleurbutt 7 жыл бұрын
Love the e906. The SM7 is a great cab mic too, saw them used on the Andertons videos lately. In the end you can record anything with anything. You just pick what tickles your fancy.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+nobodyhere Exactly! It just helps to know a little bit about positioning and all that so you can save some time and concentrate on the fun part. :0)
@jongauthier9289
@jongauthier9289 7 жыл бұрын
SM57 has pretty much been my go-to and haven't had any issues. Love 'em
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Jon Gauthier You and most of the rest of the world Jon. It's a classic for good reason!
@jongauthier9289
@jongauthier9289 7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show Don't I know it! Keep up the good work, Fellas! Love your show.
@cheeks6700
@cheeks6700 7 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. Thanks!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+cheeks6700 You're welcome. Interesting huh?! Thanks for watching!
@royalvalle634
@royalvalle634 7 жыл бұрын
Best explanation out there guys thanks, simple and concise!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 жыл бұрын
+Roy Alvalle cheers Roy
@royalvalle634
@royalvalle634 7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show if KZbin had two thumbs up I'd hit that!
@JonathanCooperGB
@JonathanCooperGB 7 жыл бұрын
What about mic'ing up something like the new Orange Rocker 32 (2 x 10) with a single mic, but running it in wet/dry ... How do you find the sweet spot of a 2 speaker combo?
@ijge
@ijge 7 жыл бұрын
Hey guys ivan here from mexico this videos was very helpfull for me, the all show es great congrats!!!
@JonKaneshiroGuitar
@JonKaneshiroGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
I play through a deluxe reverb and we mic it with an sm57 and a sennheiser e609s. I want to have the most natural sound coming through the mics. Would you suggest putting the 57 slightly off axis and close to the cone? Our engineer uses the e609 for a darker sound. Would you guys put it more towards the center?
@mattelder9147
@mattelder9147 Жыл бұрын
Watching back. Just starting to record. Helpful.
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