That Pedal Show - Six Awesome Flangers Compared

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In this episode Daniel and Mick run through six different flangers. Dan absolutely loves them, Mick’s relatively in the dark as usual… before being entirely surprised that they do all sound quite different!
We talk about how they work, where they sit on your board and of course have a good ol’ play through all of them. Let’s flange, baby…
Pedals In this episode…
• MXR Micro Flanger (loop 9)
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• Mr Black Tunnelworm (loop 7)
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• ADA PBF Flanger (loop 6)
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• Mooer Elec Lady Flanger (loop 5)
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• Electro-Harmonix Electric Mistress Flanger/Filter Matrix (loop 4)
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• Chase Bliss Audio Spectre Analog TZ Flanger (loop 10)
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• Menatone 20th Anniversary Red Snapper (loop 2)
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
• Intro and scene setting: 00:00 - 02:20
• Difference between a flanger and a chorus? 2:20
• Today’s amps: 4:50
• EHX Electric Mistress discussion and sounds: 5:25
• Menatone Red Snapper: 8:55
• Flanger after overdrive or before? 10:00
• MXR Micro Flange: 12:35
• ADA Flanger: 14:05
• Mooer Elec Lady (and EHX Electric Mistress):18:10 & 22:53
• Mr Black Tunnelworm & through-zero flanging: 24:55
• Chase Bliss Audio Spectre Analog TZ Flanger: 29:55
• Jet plane? (and much more of the ADA) 33:45
• Phasing & Flanging comparison: 37:44 (playing at 39:45)
Amps in this episode
1961 Vox AC30 with 2 x12-inch Celestion Alnico Blue speakers
Brunetti PlexiMan through Marshall HW 2x12, Celestion G12H speakers
Guitars in this episode
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
PRS DGT - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2d8Xo2I
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[@brianingram2068]

For those still confused about flanging vs phasing: Flanging (and chorus, slapback and longer delays) is a full-frequency delay, where all elements of the guitar signal are delayed by the same amount. The delayed signal is then overlaid on the original dry signal. Flanging is the shortest delay, and results in severe cancellations of most of the original guitar signal across the full frequency range, leaving a heavily comb-filtered resulting signal. That super-short delay time is then modulated to give the impression of movement in the flanged sound. Chorus is a longer delay, which results in less-severe comb-filtering and retains the movement effect from modulating the delay time. Longer delays reach a critical minimum at which your ear/brain can just perceive two distinct sounds; just before/at this point is "doubletracking" and just after is the shortest slapback delay. Phasing is frequency-dependent delay. Only a narrow band of frequencies gets mixed with the original signal at the right phase to be cancelled. So rather than the mostly-cancelled (with a few narrow bands remaining) sound of flanging, phasing retains the full wide-range sound with a single notch of cancelled frequencies. That notch is then moved around to give the impression of movement. More stages of phasing yield additional notches, and perhaps a more complex sound. The above was heard in the video in the way the phaser retained the lows and much more of the overall guitar sound, while the flanger could sound like a very narrow filtered band of remaining guitar sound. The differences in the sound are all about the electronic methods used to create the different effects.

[@doctiberius2717]

Brian Ingram please don't drink and flange 🎶😗

[@toddflowers8052]

Clear as mud.😊

[@tokenblakguy7268]

And for those who are now even more confused...

[@marcmistermarc]

So to those still confused. They sound very different in a swirly kind of way. One is called phasing and the other is called flanging. That's all you need to know in the swirlysphere.

[@stupidlogic2987]

"Phasing is frequency-dependent delay." Err no, actually, there is no delay involved in phasing. It's literally what it says in the name, phase shifted signals being mixed back with the original that creates the comb filter. "Only a narrow band of frequencies gets mixed with the original signal" - All phase shift stages are "all-pass" e.g. pass all frequencies, NOT a narrow band of frequencies. "phasing retains the full wide-range sound with a single notch of cancelled frequencies." - Multiple phase shift stages will create more than one notch, there is even a formula for it, for n stages, you get n/2 notches. The MXR Phase 90 has 40 stages and thus 2 notches.

[@searing7549]

I just got an ELady and LOVE it! So cool! What a great sound. Unbelievably inexpensive.

[@MEKnd]

That fixed point switch on Electric Mistress is absolutely great! I'm literally in love. Very good ring modulation like sound. You really should do an episode on ring modulators!

[@brettdiaz]

Thanks for throwing the Mooer into the mix. There are some effects I only use once in a while and can't justify getting a boutique pedal to do the job.

[@willmac3521]

I KNEW IT!!! As soon as I read the title, I knew the 'Walking on the Moon' hook would be used haha! Love TPS!

[@randychapman9527]

It's about damn time Alex Lifeson was referenced boys!!!!! 👍👍

[@michael_caz_nyc]

Love Alex. Absolute Beast on Guitar. Monster Player. All Lazer-Accurate & Precision. He is like a Hybrid between Steve Howe & Jimmy Page. Super nice guy - too.

[@TheRaviotar]

Michael Caz He's a fantastic player who I think was always a bit underrated because he was playing with the best rhythm section in rock music.

[@alexmurphy5289]

@@TheRaviotar He's still incredible and shouldn't be so hidden

[@erpringle]

What is the name of the song that dan kept playing the riff to by rush? Do you know?

[@larsoN2209]

finally some love for the amazing pleximan! FINALLY! got mine a week ago and its my ultimate dream amp! so versatile, small, affordable and loads and loads of tone!

[@patrickredford8157]

I gotta say, I really really like my elec lady and with that footprint and cost its a no brainer.

[@arphod]

Got one used for $40US. REALLY a no-brainer. Thank you, Dan. You have shown the way.

[@BlueSkyDogs]

Love this show. I watch to learn n train my ears and mind. Dont ever stop having the expensive, rare and vintage pedals. I am not gigging dud to family ties and cant afford this stuff yet!but watching and more importantly listening is giving me inspiration and an idea of what I will be buying when I'm working again😁

[@ishancooper]

Thanks guys!! Good to hear some more flangers side-by-side. I still keep going back to my BF-2 :)

[@TraneFrancks]

Totally digging going through the old catalog, guys. I have a Maxon FL-301 Japanese reissue flanger. I _adore_ this thing. One of the things that I love most that might drive people crazy is that it has noticeable gain. Having it in the effects loop and kicking it on nets a palpable boost of gain. On an amp that's working hard already, it's just glorious.

[@gordrock]

Well done. I've been working with my phaser before and after dirt, loads of difference! to the point where a friend of mine has two phases on his board.

[@mikekite]

Love your work guys!!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Flanger is my favorite pedal effect the sounds are cool and lots of fun!

[@2Plus2isChicken2013]

Awesome episode! At first was wondering why the ADA Flanger wasn't on the board and then I saw the reissue version. I think that one's my favorite. I never really know how to use an effect like this one, though.

[@TUBEMAN192]

I LOOOOVE that Tunnelworm. Sounds out of this world!

[@onionheadguy7094]

Out of all of the effects I truly believe that the flanger is one of them.

[@nicholsonfile]

These beige meme comments suck

[@onionheadguy7094]

@@nicholsonfile I made this comment over a year ago and trust me back then it was one of the comments ever made.

[@nicholsonfile]

@@onionheadguy7094 I get it. We're living in a society

[@jokerswild469]

love your show so much keep it up

[@lenduckworth99]

Great video as always but I couldn't help being aghast at the absence of the Boss BF2! It's a legend that makes its way onto loads of pro boards!

[@mikes062]

I used to have a boss bf3, and it was awesome!! I'll get another some time! That electric mistress is pretty sweet though!

[@nohandle54]

The thing I love about through-zero flanging is how subtle you can make the effect. you can create a "how did they do that?" sound versus a "holy shit, flanger!" sound. To that end, the Mr Black has been a fav of mine for a while now.

[@robholiday5370]

Great vid as usual guys. Totally agree with Mick's comments about cheap/expensive pedals, it's far easier to dip your toe with multiple low-mid priced pedals & upgrade if you want to in time. How many of us start with a batch of Boss etc pedals? There are always some that end up sticking around, too.

[@J.ScottNC]

Great video guys, thank you. Really enjoyed it! 👏🏼

[@BathedInMilk]

Eeeek! I love Flangers! My only modulation effect and, for me, its the Mistress all the way. Never got Phase or Chorus but all about Flange and Vibe (oddly). Great to hear some extreme sounds, thanks again boys!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Leo Cookman Cheers Leo, glad you enjoyed it. So interesting how much love/hate there is for Flangers. It's all love from our end too!

[@jonnyfive5000]

I like flanger when it sounds like chorus. Other wise I start feeling sick and dizzy after a while.

[@therecordfable]

The Electro Harmonix Stereo Electric Mistress is a great addition to any board. I've had one for years. The filter matrix is so much fun. Super useful in the studio as well.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Ding Dong Ditch Indeed!

[@tomparsons8223]

I purchased the Mooer Electric Lady after watching this, and Love it. It's a great sound, but also, its fantastic to be able to spend £50 and give something a try. Also, It's on J Masic's mini board, if it's good enough for J!

[@lovecraftmusic8717]

Only thing is I've heard it has a short usable range of sounds...like it has only 1 or 2 good sounding spots. Is it true?

[@scotdvorak8861]

Released more recently… the Walrus Audio Polychrome is my new favorite. Captures the Pat Traverse thing really well. Has that ADA magic and doesn’t tone-suck whatsoever. Even at a very subtle setting, can provide that barely detectable movement, that makes soloing really come alive and feels great under the fingers. Also does a cool sort of detune (Van Hagar-esque) thing… Excellent flange, IMO!!

[@FabAndroid]

There are a few companies selling the eleclady / elady under different brand names but with the exact same circuit (which has eleclady printed right on the PCB regardless of whose name is on the outside of the box). Some do appear to use cheaper pots and jacks, but as far as I can tell the Donner Jet Convolution is part for part identical to the Mooer for less than half the money, if anyone is still on the fence.

[@JAFOpty]

honestly, I want you to do fancy and vintage expensive stuff.... there are thousands of other demos for MXR, Boss and TC. I love that you show the very same pedals that Gilmour and Page used in the 70s that are impossible to get, and boutique stuff too.

[@RAVINGMUNSTER]

JAFO-PTY Totally agree love to hear the classics, however, it's great when there's an affordable '10p' alternative included - especially with effects like flangers that some of us won't use that regularly. A couple of vintage options, a couple of the very finest boutique pedals, the industry standard and the best of the bargain price alternatives would be the perfect mix I'd like to see.

[@JAFOpty]

Nicholas M I agree with you, I love how they showed the EL vs mooer. But old gear and the stories behind them is what makes this channel special... and not doing a Boss vs TC vs MXR, there are 5k+ channels doing that.... that is all.

[@chrisegg7936]

JAFO-PTY i’m two years behind on this but i agree

[@reallyreallyryan]

Easily the best demo type content on KZbin, keep up the good work, men. I would love to see more of the good old PRS, as I find it really hard to judge how a pedal/amp will interact with my prs compared to a Fender or Gibson type deal. It seems to be a massively goldilocks type affair for me. Plus it's just bloody lovely!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Ryan Simmons Thanks Ryan. I'll play the PRS from time to time. It's such a good sounding guitar. :0)

[@bankersbanker7301]

Retro Sonic, Hartman and ThorpyFx Camoflange are incredible!!!!!

[@19maurice66]

Thanks for including a cheap option too, always nice to hear those in comparison to the modern boutique and classic gear.

[@nobrainv6591]

Friday! Dan! Mick! Guitar! Pedal! Perfect!!!

[@kwsailer1]

I love my old EHX Electric Mistress, but the noise forced me to replace it with an MXR, which I also really liked, but the power cord became a bit of a nuisance, so I went to a Yamaha E1005 set up for a flange sound. I eventually lowered my expectations and went with a Boss BF-2 which is almost an adequate flanger. But every time I pulled out my Electric Mistress it sounded so much better, I ended up taking flanger off my board. Now I am using a Subdecay Starlight version 2...flanger is back on the board!

[@FLCTampa]

Thank you for showing the less expensive pedals in this video. Also, you guys have taught me a lot when it comes to pedals and where and how they work well.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Tim Rook you're very welcome :)

[@marknason4572]

Best compliment I can give this show: Even when you're talking about an effect I have no interest in (i.e. Flange) I still watch the whole thing!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Mark Nason Thank you Mark - that is high praise indeed! Cheers, and thanks for watching!

[@johnfillmore343]

I was looking at the Mu-tron pedals on the back wall. I had a Mu-tron phaser which was a great phaser, but my favorite Mu-tron device was their Volume-Wah. So sorry I sold it years ago.

[@GNeuman]

Hey Guys! Love your channel! Remember the Boss microrack RDD-10 from the 80's? This little beauty could do delay, modulated delay, chorus and flange...Still a great piece of kit, IMHO...

[@Jellofayce]

this video was much needed

[@shoominati23]

I've been listening to Among the Living by Anthrax constantly over the past few days. C'mon, it's harder than anything metallica ever put out.. and still makes me pump my fist for the cause at a well mature age! Those doubletime bass fills from frankie bello are killer and Joey's voice was just on fire for that album!

[@richardhuckle5715]

Gets me thinking of songs that used a flanger. Mostly for intros, but i think i can remember a Gary Moore ( coliseum2 band ?) track where it is used for most of it.

[@owenhu9465]

flanger is imo the best modulation effect for rhythm playing with overdrive!

[@neilomac]

For the Most Impractical Pedalboard video, can I recommend the Hughes & Kettner Warp Factor pedal? A one trick pony (Nu Metal distortion), an unwieldy size & shape (big & round, kinda like a Fuzz Face), in & out jacks going left to right as opposed to right to left like most pedals, and a daft non standard voltage PSU with no ability to run off batteries.

[@stewvlogs5084]

Wow what a great channel liked and subbed. I could watch all day. Great job

[@JamieValente]

Just heard the reference to Mark Johns in this video! I am lucky enough to have had some guitar lessons from him. Great player and guy!

[@rictube4716]

You should have picked the MXR117 over the micro flanger, much more versatile and another legendary flanger imo. The amount of amazing sounds that John McGeoch got out of them was epic.

[@OctopusEars]

I picked up a Micro Flanger recently off craigslist for $40 and am blown away by how good it is. I'm not a huge modulation fan, so I don't intend to spend a lot of money in that area, and this is perfect for me

[@yanngiraud]

@@OctopusEars Micro Flanger is the best Flanger for those who, like me, do not like flangers so much. It does not have all of those robotic and ice-picky sounds found in most of them. Yes, it's not crazy but it's warm, covers a lot of grounds and there's no bad sound out of it whether you set it at 0 or all the way up. One of the best modulation pedals that there is.

[@darwinsaye]

Like Dan, I always loved the particular sound of the old EHX Electric Mistress, but I’ve struggled to like the sounds of other flangers much. The more whizzy, jetty, the less I like them. I recently found a weird workaround though. I found that stacking a couple of the less midrangey flangers at certain settings, besides making a really great, rich modulation sound, it also seems to accentuate a certain comb filter range and makes it more lush and metallic, like a Mistress.

[@lance134679]

The Chase Bliss flanger really takes it to extremes. Very cool.

[@macbury18]

I definitely agree with the start cheep and cheerful and upgrade when you decide what you like approach. I've currently got 4 tone city pedals and they've served me just great, I'm thinking about replacing my chorus as its my favourite sound but the tone city doesn't quite do it for me.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+abnzg Love the journey. We struggle to find much love in really cheap overdrives/fuzzes, but all the out-there stuff... well, why not? It all sounds weird anyway! Ahem.

[@budmcnelson]

Brilliant as always, Gents; this is the perfect way to start my Friday! Thanks for including "budget conscious alternatives" in the last few shows. It gives those of us who are experimenting safer options, lowering our risk of wasting money on pedals that turn out to be "ghastly". It would be interesting and great to see your "list of cheap alternatives that don't suck", or perhaps a better moniker might be "Gateway Pedals". Cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Rob Nelson It's always a personal taste thing Rob. TC Electronic aren't 'cheap' but we always seem to like their pedals. Pretty safe choice / combination of good quality, credibility and loads of features. Cheers!

[@siryba]

The flanger is a much misunderstood and overlooked stomp box so it's great to see two talented and knowledgeable blokes showing just how varied and flexible they can be, especially as demonstrated here, as way if enhancing other pedals. Spot on as always chaps. Further to your desert island pedalboard episode, I'd love to see you both put a board together using pedals from a single decade only eg. a 60s board, 70s board, etc. it would be great to hear how the tech of the time interacted with one another. There are probably only a handful of people who might have access to such pedals and could talk with a level of authority about them, and That Pedal Show is definitely in that category.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Simon Godfrey oh, a decade board, love that idea, cheers G :)

[@andrewflinn3804]

That phaser! Have a look at the skreddy LMS. Please look in depth at modulation pre/post delay. Love your work.

[@zac_m]

I love/hate these videos because before they even start, you hammer out a chord on a perfect Tele into two perfect amps. Flangers are super cool but I just wanna hear those two amps!

[@edphaze6550]

Great episode again! I love your show. My question is about the difference between flange and phase. I understand that flange is a delay time based effect, but my understanding of the phase effect is that of a frequency notch that is swept. I have an old Peavy amp from the 80's that has the most beautiful phaser effect. It has a "pull" function on the phaser knob that allows for a "stop" anywhere within the sweep range.

[@alanredversangel]

No BF-2! I picked one up for a tenner the other day and it is sweeeeet! One thing I hate with flangers is when it widens out and detunes too much at the bottom of the sweep. It can be mostly dialed out.

[@drebatista]

11:10 the look we all had on our faces at that exact moment while we were all thinking it through.

[@jamesgoddin8880]

Got to agree with Mick - the through zero does sound broken 💥

[@juliowbarbosa]

Great episode, as usual! Yet, I feel sad for not seeing the TC SCF again... Sure, its flanger is not a favorite to many, but I really hoped to hear you guys opinions on it! Maybe a versatile pedal (2 or more effects in one box) episode? Cheers from Brazil!

[@michael_caz_nyc]

I think the Thru Zero Flanger is the Most OverRated Effect ever created. I love when Mick says " Why Would You Want That? " - - I Agree with You Mick on this one. I prefer that Liquid, Comb Filtering "ala " David Gilmour / Andy Summers. Give me the Electric Mistress, Hartman Analog Flanger or the Mooer E-Lady. I Love the Show. You guys are phenomenal & so informative.

[@chrismundayguitar]

Hey guys loving the ab's and the best of 6 styled shows... can you do 6 awesome vibes? Cheers Chris

[@Calagamberr0]

I love that tele

[@apeekaboo]

Thanks guys! I'm looking forward to the video on that big impractical pedal board. =)

[@ThatPedalShow]

+apeekaboo we've filmed it already, so much fun

[@hankgalt]

I'm not a big flanger guy and pretty much only use it when covering VH or, coincidentally, spirit of radio or 2112. So, for me, the evh flanger was the way to go since the evh stripes look soooooooo good on a board 🎸🤘🏻

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Joe Sanders No arguments from us! We don't have one, but yes micro flanger made it in....

[@baronvonchickenpants6564]

Flange, what a lovely word! Flange flange flange

[@DerbyCityRockCo]

I find myself leaning toward the more subtle effects. When you all did the phaser episode, I favored the much lighter Phase 45. This time, I find myself leaning toward the MXR for the same reason.

[@davidkieltyka9]

I like the Phase 45 (and the current DOD 201) for the same reason. The Electric Mistress can be dialed in more subtley than Mick & Dan did in this video, though.

[@gratefulmule]

Adam K I'm the same phase 45 on my board plus the micro flanger great pedal.

[@LodvarDude]

Love phasers. The "Retro-Sonic Phase 90" is my weapon of choice. It can do a lot more than just "phase". It can "wobble", "spin", "be flangy" and (almost) sound like a Leslie - though I prefer my TC-Mini Vibrato to fill that role (Can't afford a Strymon Lex. Bummer.). Oh, and the Phase 90 absolutely NAILS "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" and "Breathe". Too bad I don't.. ;-) Great video as always guys! TNX! Have a great weekend!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Bjørn Lodvar Larsen And you Bjorn, thanks for watching! The Lex will come one day perhaps.

[@jasonstone9779]

And I thought I was almost alone in the love of flanger.........but where was the Boss BF-2 (or BF-3 but you can borrow mine for a review if you need, BF-2 that is). It's my favourite Flanger and is just awesome, especially for getting the jet plane sound - very easily done with the BF-2. Love your videos too, damned good stuff!

[@sduke39]

I learn something new in every show!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+sduke39 Mick here - me too!

[@northof50now]

Great vid gents. Since watching your vids, I've become a bit of a snob with pedals [much to my chagrin]. The fact is, the pedals I've purchased from Lovepedal, Rockett and Suhr simply sound better to my ear. For those affects I don't use much, I've come to like the M5 from Line6.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+northof50now love the M5, great utility pedal

[@livingabovethe12th]

the evh flange from mxr Dunlop is really good.

[@markedwards7721]

Yes I would have loved for you to have touched on some of these Lenny Kravitz song effects sometime, and what is going on between fuzz, flanging, guitars, and other components of the sounds he is getting on record.

[@nicholaspetergagg7769]

No mention of John Mcgeoch a multiple flanger pedal user, he used mxr and ibanez flangers to shape his sound before a distorted amp. Listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees Juju album for astonishing inventive guitar.

[@acledfloyd]

Great episode as always. You seem to appreciate suggestions so, I'd love to see a video where you try to get the best tones possible plugging into a PA without a guitar amp. I had to do this once and I hated my tone.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Erik Harker We will do this Erik. Can't say we're excited about doing it, but we'll do it. Speaker simulation is pretty key to any sort of direct sound. Cheers!

[@wilson7596]

Eric Johnson uses the tunnelworm. Love to hear more of it.

[@Garethsschoolchannel]

The Mark Johns shout out, beast of a player and a fantastic teacher! Makes me miss being back at uni...

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Gareth Taylor yep, love that guy

[@nohandle54]

Oh, if you do a phaser show, I'd love to hear about the classic DOD Phasor 201 - it always did something different I never could quite figure out

[@drebrose1983]

Good stuff guys. Show suggestion: combo pedals like strymon flint, keeley monteray etc...

[@MrWoobag]

Would love that. Eventide H9 as well.

[@strazburg]

dre brose they need to do this

[@JAFOpty]

Mobius & Modfactor too!

[@overnightgrowth]

Yeah thinking along the same line here trying some of those multi effects pedals would be informative. Especially interesting for these guys to get their opinion because of their love for vintage pedals and sounds.

[@musubi2064]

JAFO-PTY A

[@larry2388]

I really enjoyed this episode. How about a show on feedback? You know....Hendrix style. Every guitar player needs feedback control, and now there are many pedals on the market that aid guitarists in getting feedback. Like the Boss FB-2. Or maybe a show on Intelligent or Polyphonic harmonizers. I'm having a hard time finding the right one for me.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+LARRY Great shout Larry!

[@hotrats1040]

Great video as always! Being a sound geek I've got a suggestion for future video: Given that practicing with a real amp at decent volume seems much more efficient than unplugged (since dynamics, damping strings, sustain, effects, sound, gain etc all come into play), but most of the time you can't play into a real amp... how do a genuine sound geek get a decent practice sound through head phones?

[@tireoghain82]

So cool. Flangers really ought to have an expression pedal option manually sweep the rate of flange with one's foot. Need more horn honks though!

[@heMANshred]

Tïr Eoghain Blackman chase bliss spectre.

[@larry2388]

I think every pedal should come with an expression pedal for at least one control. Reverb for the feedback. Distortion for the gain. Tremolo for the speed. Compression for the sustain. I really hate bending over these days.

[@javiceres]

Yes. Like A/DA and Moog

[@timothybradley926]

The Morley Pro Flanger Chrome series had operated with a foot pedal that had variable control over phase, depth, travel, pitch, and LFO waveform. It is probably one the most interesting and best sounding pedal processors ever made, that had pedal control that wasn't even surpassed by high end rack processing using continuous controllers. The Pro Flanger was capable of flanging, Chorus, pitch modulation, Doppler effects, Leslie Rotary sounds, and "Ray-gun" modulation. If you find one, buy it!

[@auntjenifer7774]

Tïr Eoghain Blackman * Boom ! That is the Morley pedal that I had ! It had a expression pedal built in to the phase/chorus.

[@joesatchton212]

RUSH...all day, every day.... My god, thank you guys for the time traveling. Decades ago, my very first pedal ever was that exact EH Mistress. Geez, what I wouldn't give to have that original puppy now, insanely noisy as it was. Actually, that's wrong. The EH Electric Mistress was my second pedal purchase - the first one was the original MXR Distortion+. haha Yes. I have been trying to channel my inner Alex Lifeson since I was a wee lad. Nice job Daniel on the "Spirit of Radio" lick! :D Although shame on you guys for not tooting/name dropping Mr. Lifeson. Some epic flangers guys...but for my [sentimental] money, it will only ever be the EH Electric Mistress....warts and all. As far as I recall, the Electric Mistress is the one that started it all. cheers!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Joe Satchton cheers Joe. We can't name drop horn Alex because we don't know him personally, dem da rules

[@joesatchton212]

Ah, gotcha...But wait! I thought that rule was only about using the horn to name drop? Does that mean you guys can't even mention a player's name at all? :P

[@alfother]

Obviously you just need to get him on the show then ;)

[@joesatchton212]

@alfother: I totally +1,000,000 that! [Is that how the kidz do it these days?? lol ]

[@OneMoreGrave]

It would be cool to see a video on dynamic flangers, chorus, etc. Something like the Keely Bubble Tron for instance. I think those pedals can really lend themselves to a solo tone ala Frank Zappa for example.

[@josephdecker0]

LOL nice Call of Cthulu reference at 5:37

[@WinterHillTube]

The flanger effect was originally produced by using two slightly out of sync reel-to-reel tape machines playing the same sound. By leaning on the flange of one of the tape reels, the speed of one of the tape decks could be slightly altered, resulting in subtle phase cancellations between the sounds played from the two tape machines. This contraption is a digital implementation of a flanger. Unlike the flanger, the phaser effect has been developed entirely within the electronic field. Phaser (specifically the Phaser contraption in AudioMulch) applies a modulated whooshing sound (otherwise known as selective phase reinforcement and cancellation) to the input signal. A series of all-pass filters, frequency modulated by a sine wave, are used to create this effect. You can specify the range of frequencies over which the filter sweeps, and how fast the filter sweeps up and down. The amount of resonance can be controlled, and you can control the level of phased signal that is mixed back in with the input. (Extracts taken from the AudioMulch help file for the Phaser and Flanger contraption. Mulch is about 20 years old now and very much functions like plugging pedals together.)

[@gentGTR]

Thank you for bringing up the all-pass filters.

[@justinregelin8699]

Just ordered an elec-lady. Between this vid, and many other demos, it's too close to not pick up for the price and small footprint. Nails the Gilmour stuff.

[@Diax1324]

..I am so jealous of all the pedals you guys have access to.

[@MNGuitars]

Awesomeeee...flanger is also my favorite modulation effect and the mistress stole my heart 8 years ago=) man that police sound is so good lol..u get that special low cut mid hump sorta with the mistress...what I really want to know is if any mobius users feel like the silver mode on the flanger algorithm is tuned correctly?

[@vkuolema79]

The eleclady is a pretty much straightforward clone of the Deluxe Electric Mistress (SAD1024 version). The True bypass feature allows to preserve the low end loss that is present on the original EHX pedals. Doing a True Bypass mod on your Vintage Deluxe Mistress will give you the same low end boost preserving the high end fidelity de originals have. Most Elecladys are made with Chinese BBD chips (MN30XX equivalents) which are known to be darker sounding than the originals .

[@omikl]

"Thrown into a pit with a pair of hungry Flangers": Standard Editorial punishment for transgressions at Guitarist Magazine circa 1995 ;-)

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Steve Kellett Man walks into a bar, asks for a double entendre. So the barmaid gives him one. *Please edit the gender identifiers in this joke to whatever offends you least.

[@Robstafarian]

For the show on phasers, check out the Cusack Music Tap-A-Phase. I could ship mine to you if you like (I live on the east coast of the US).

[@omikl]

IIRC a Univibe type circuit is a multi stage phaser attempting to emulate a Leslie Speaker, whereas a Vibrato circuit rhythmically changes the pitch of the signal without mixing it back with the dry signal. If I ever get the chance I'll retrieve my old one knob black box phaser & Colorsound Wah from my mate in the UK. I temporarily left them with him in 1985 while I moved house ;-) I don't think there's any hope that the DiMarzio PAF's still there :-)

[@chrisheyes66]

This is the spirit of the flanger

[@teknomanning]

Ada

[@tonelogic]

Hey guys! Great topic this week. If you're looking for something interesting in the flanger department, check out the Alexander Pedals F13, it has a dynamic flange mode that responds to the attack of your playing. Really interesting. Also gets real tweaky without breaking the bank!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Sean Murphy nice! Will check it for sure

[@wlawnsldj]

Was about to say please make a flanger video then you uploaded this. Thanks +That Pedal Show i'm modulation crazy right now just bought a phase 90 and micro flanger and micro chorus. now i need a univibe and wah haha

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Erjim Delos Reyes wobble tactic! Nice one.

[@TheHourlyTim]

Would've loved to have seen your thoughts on the Alexander f.13 with its step and dynamic modes

[@TakisMasterKey]

A/DA for the win!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Takis Tavalion Mick here - I thought so too.

[@joeldelpilar3651]

Mick talked about a pedalboard building episode, that I look forward to 👌🏼 you could expand on that idea too. Maybe, like you did for guitarist magazine about overdrives, a three part show on basic/modern/advanced pedalboards and in each show three "price-classes" I.e basic board (like tuner-OD-delay-reverb) what you guys recommend under 500$/500-1000$/above 1000$, interesting? Cheers 🍻

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Joel del Pilar Possibly Joel. We try not to make budget the reason for doing anything.... though we understand that we're all a budget of some kind. Maybe we need to do more challenges, where price is a factor. That might work... thanks for watching and for your suggestions. Always appreciated!

[@joeldelpilar3651]

That Pedal Show thanks for the response😊, Since you guys obviously tried a lot of gear we all really appreciate your input on what's good or not. Like the mooer, I never would have tried them out if I didn't watch your show. Like you said Mick, you spend more money on some essentials (for you) and less on other stuff you just wanna try out. For myself I always wanted to try flange but the cheep ones I tried dident impress as the more expensive ones, now I definitely getting the mooer! That's why I really think many people would appreciate such a episode. Anyway still gonna watch the show, you guys are the best! Cheers

[@patrickb3064]

Hey guys great show. You should check out the source audio flanger pedals. With the mobile app they provide you can have a chorus, phase, and flanger pedal all in one box. Pretty cool.

[@Robstafarian]

I am of the opinion that a pedal is only as good as what it can do with its onboard controls. Any function which relies on a computer, obviously, ceases to exist when the computer is not available (TC Electronic's TonePrints are excepted, so long as one is comfortable with not being able to change TonePrints).

[@Martinlgn]

mooer nailed it again

[@shaft9000]

Through-Zero is underwhelming in mono, and no mention of THE KING = * FOXROX TZF * Tunnelworm is quite gimped - two outputs are a must!! When each signal is inverted in phase L/R it puts the conventional flangers to shame.