"That's apartheid?" James O'Brien disagrees with LBC caller on the future of Israel and Palestine

[@xkr0wex109]

The racism on display in this call is gobsmacking. But, for many of us, not at all surprising or unusual.

[@puyorcuyor]

Indeed. The tone is so agreeable and affable one could be lulled into nodding along but only if one didn’t understand English.

[@beck8880]

@@xkr0wex109 and the racism from hamas??????????

[@xkr0wex109]

@ "OMG BUT KKKKKKHAMMMMAAAAASSSSSSS!!??!!" Nice try I-DIDDY-F.

[@Titus9508]

​@beck8880Got some examples?

[@mini-carnage7540]

​@beck8880they didn't call the show 👍

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

People like this caller is the reason why atrocities happen. They hide injustice behind a reasonable sounding voice and delivery while their underlying argument is morally bankrupt

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

@ChrisAlbertH47 - please help us - what is the truth?

[@Base612]

What was reasonable about this guy? Sounded like a lunatic to me.

[@mairefox4794]

This man is in denial also there are Christians in Palestine

[@David-f8e2v]

The palestinians will never be satisfied with two states

[@zabiarayyan7056]

people are like this is the exact reason why there never will be peace. becasue these people empower it and allow it.

[@craigoneill2216]

Israel has killed its own people and blamed it on Hamas why doesn’t he bring that up?

[@killerfunghoul3948]

I’m amazed the Hannibal Directive and the Dahiya doctrine has never been mentioned once on uk MSM.

[@mossmm73]

Because he may be Israeli Zionist

[@jonathanrichter4256]

@@killerfunghoul3948 Show me an example where it has actually been used. The US has plans for mutually assured destruction in case of a nuclear war. That doesn't mean it's happening.

[@ghas4151]

@@killerfunghoul3948because the people in charge are linked in some way to the state of Israel. Look who was in charge of Middle East reporting at the BBC…

[@anthonybaiocchi3028]

This is why this generation is so ignorant!

[@Zinzzy]

This caller is absolutely unreal! I've never heard such arrogant, uninformed, and blatant xenophobia and racism sound so polite. It feels even more dangerous than those who scream their hatred!

[@anchorpoint5871]

agreed...normal people that will do the worst things with a smile..

[@Daniel-zs1eq]

He is covert narc..very lethal

[@colincolin13]

From what I understand the caller was suggesting, I think he was being quite constructive and optimistic. O' Brien , on the other hand was being physically negative and repetitive, rolling out the tired narratives and assuming he knows all the answers. Extremely naive!!!

[@mishou8794]

6:14 Disinformation , false information … how weird to make or think people oblivious!!! Check the world map of 1920s…. You’ll see Palestine country, it’s all documented and exists even in Encyclopaedia and museums. We should listen more to Dr Mate Gabor and Dr Norman Flinkestine

[@MrGrifft]

​@@colincolin13 "Constructive and optimistic" while explaining that his solution is APARTHEID. There is something wrong with you Colin...

[@Wenutz]

Israel is not the only democracy in the region; Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Tunisia (etc) also have democratic systems. However, remember that Germany was a democracy before World War II, and that did not prevent horrific outcomes. Being a democracy does not absolve a nation from wrongdoing.

[@subchan6595]

Turkey, are you joking ? Lebanon who has been hijacked by iran ? geezus, dont give up your day job

[@briandecaire5403]

True, see Trump’s executive orders in the US democracy starting today.

[@steveknott5873]

Tunisia is in north Africa

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Germany was a democracy until 1934... World War 2 began in 1939. A lot can happen in 5 years...😮

[@sugs1191]

Jordan is the safest.

[@GordonBennett-c5k]

Israel which never existed before 1948 is the only democracy that doesn't act democratically.

[@JonDasBoot]

I guess you don't know much about the USA.

[@EEC-p6o]

Lots of countries didn’t officially exist including America but you only hate the Jewish one….

[@markconley5730]

ethnocracy

[@chatham43]

How did you work that out Einstein. Back in the hole!😂

[@Tekkzn]

The Geneva convention didn’t exist long ago. Should it exist?

[@yaa_sin]

This caller is delusional.

[@chemcintosh9704]

What is disgusting is the obvious celebration of the civilians enabling Hamas as this being a victory for Hamas. Hamas needed to have surrendered but their strategy is to wait for the idf to eliminate all of the human shields they used as 'willing martyrs'

[@Canvashed]

Yaya you ain't toast after all😂😂😂😂

[@gazfisher7391]

Delusional would be a start.

[@jacky5768]

@@chemcintosh9704 so would having a Naval base 200 yards from a house be using them as human shields?

[@mrr4975]

@@Varley-k1nbut your watching the host aren’t you? So he can’t be that bad!!!

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

Even now this caller cannot stop with dehumanising and 'othering' people and denying history

[@subchan6595]

land of the bible is jewish story though, not arab workers who flooded palestine in 1920 looking for work

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

@@subchan6595 You might want to read an actual history book and one that covers more than 100 years

[@FreeUKBCFC]

​@SamLowryDZ-015 You might want to look at why no other country in the region wants anything to do with the Palestinians. Even Jordan which is actually where lots of Palestinians live don't want them. Why? Wherever they go trouble follows. And Israel predates Palestine by over a millennium. Free free 🇮🇱.

[@kaha6987]

@@subchan6595according to your fake satanic book?😂

[@NapoleonGelignite]

@@subchan6595- Odin gave Germany to the Germans, well that’s what the Nazis believed. Did their superstitious nonsense justify their inhuman savagery? I don’t think so, but I guess you must right?

[@jasonmuise4199]

Such an ignorant caller!

[@subchan6595]

he is bang on, just doesnt buy the lie

[@outcastp23]

@@subchan6595 95% of the world disagrees with you. Go and check UN general assembly votes to see how many countries buy anything the US/Israel is selling.

[@ldorrill]

They all are ignorant

[@WaqManVR]

@@subchan6595 What lie? The only lie is that ishell can exist with normal humans.

[@martimpocinho5113]

I am astounded how so many zionists forget that Lebanon is democratic

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

is it?

[@BadlydrawnBen]

Sure is they just elected a Christian prime minister

[@moislam103]

Indonesia and Malaysia

[@BlackJ1234]

@@BadlydrawnBen REALLY?... so how come there is 2 military army guarding it?... Thought it all be under the prime ministers control

[@andrewrobinson2565]

​​​@@BadlydrawnBenThe President of Lebanon is ALWAYS a Christian. The Prime Minister is ALWAYS a Sunni Muslim. Your knowledge on the subject is full of holes 😊. Badly educated Ben too??

[@Benzy-d3u]

The caller was overwhelmed with logic and reasoning by O'Brien, and his own racism and bias came through. You can't have a " greater Israel" with different laws for different ethnicities. That's apartheid.

[@chatham43]

So you're anti apartheid. That also means not being anti-Semitic. You do realise that?😊

[@seringbojang9366]

This caller has never been to Israel in Telaviv residents carrying assault rifles! A hypocrite never has credible reasons.

[@mossmm73]

This caller has been to occupied Palestine he is pretending to be naive in support i of Israel Zionists

[@jonathanrichter4256]

I HAVE been to Israel, twice, and you are full of spit. There are some IDF personnel in the area, but ordinary citizens do not go around armed. The process for getting a permit to carry arms is 10X more rigorous than anything in the US.

[@Nicolas-rg1zl]

@@jonathanrichter4256 what's 10x0 ?

[@halfpakichick]

@@jonathanrichter4256you’re in denial

[@LiamArdo89]

Lies

[@HassanAli-xl8kr]

It was Palestine. It is Palestine there will always a Palestine

[@subchan6595]

nope incorrrect

[@jonathanbuckenmyer4888]

Was part of Ottomon empire then was British mandate for Palestine but not a country called Palestine.

[@Digga98]

@@jonathanbuckenmyer4888 whats a mandate? it sounds so magical :) can you elaborate?

[@cmant2024]

@@Digga98it’s when you go for a juicy burger with your best bro.

[@HassanAli-xl8kr]

@jonathanbuckenmyer4888 there is also no country called Israel in history as well

[@stephendoherty981]

If hundreds of years of British imperialism could be personified, it would be that caller.

[@JOsc4-v]

How come?

[@stephendoherty981]

@@JOsc4-v The voice, the accent, the denial of reality, the smug superiority, the upper class politeness used as cover for prejudice and the encouragement of forced displacement and killing of the 'uncivilised natives' etc

[@JOsc4-v]

@@stephendoherty981 he has a British accent so he’s an imperialist? That doesn’t really define imperialism. You realise Ireland has benefitted from British “imperialism”?

[@peterbushby9009]

Australia, New Zealand

[@chatham43]

And that's why you continue to live here...sadly.😊

[@petercohen5563]

Palestinians never wanted their land partitioned, which would surely mean mass expulsion or dispossession. Will this caller give 56% of the UK to a group of foreign immigrants?

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

The so-called Palestinians were offered statehood by the UN in 1947/8. And refused. Offered a 2-state solution in the Camp David talks. And refused. And in the Oslo Accords. And refused. What they say they want is "from the river to the sea", in other words, all of it. If you think there was a "Palestinian" state before 1948, the world needs to know about it.

[@ajbudda1038]

​@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 your comment is proof you have no clue what you're talking about. Please respond because I would love the opportunity to educate you!

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

@ Please do educate me. And read up and UN Resolution 181 of 29-11-47 beforehand.

[@instinct1ve372]

@ Quite right. Well said (to e-strategics 1st message)

[@foofighter7683]

@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 there was no israel either before 48, there was no jordan, no lebanon, no syria all these states acquired their independance in that period , but the palestinians had their independace stolen from them because of a mass immigration problem from eastern Europe.

[@Zobeida-ep2ku]

Dear James O’Brien: have you any idea how many people enjoy listening to & how excellent you remain calm explain the problem clearly & easily! Thanks for standing up for the underdog!

[@lauralittle1359]

I wish I could stay as calm as this man 😅 👏

[@jezcorrigan651]

“No such thing as Palestinians” is incredibly hypocritical thing to say considering most Israeli’s are European and not Semitic.. like those in Palestine 😂

[@salmaba5123]

True

[@CuriousJoorge]

So the 1 million semetic Israelis that came from Morocco, Algeria, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, etc are ok with you?

[@stevteig]

Actually not true. The majority of Israelis are of Middle Eastern origin, from Arab lands and are known as Sephardim.

[@stevteig]

If you have a larger country, with different ethnicities living in different areas under different laws and a minority don't want to be ruled from the greater area, then it's Apartheid? So the Scots are living under Apartheid according to that argument.

[@prinsespluis]

Mizrahim.... ​@@stevteig

[@ruweidashakhshir2143]

You let him get away with "israel is the only democracy in the middle east" despite the ICJ advisory opinion and subsequent UN resolution that Israeli is an occupying and apartheid regime. And after he spent 10 mins speaking about human rights, erasing Palestinians, spouting Islamophobic bigotry...just disgustingly disappointing.

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

I think the notion that it is the only democracy in the middle east has been pretty much put to rest, for those with the ability to think critically anyway.

[@instinct1ve372]

Yeah, all reputable organisations confirm that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. I have to say that JOB was more of a loon than ever today! 🤣

[@erinjohnson7329]

I'll call them a democracy when they allow every. Single. (adult) Palestinian. a vote in their elections. People who are born under the rule of a democratic nation, who don't have citizenship elsewhere, are entitled to citizenship of somewhere. It's the obligation of the occupying nation to provide that citizenship and the rights associated.

[@subchan6595]

advisory opinion was from a consultancy firm. Yeah that sounds halal 😂

[@dayegilharno4988]

I hate to be the one to make this statement: "You guys wouldn't know an actual ally if he's right in front of your noses!"

[@Katy-sh3ru]

Look at any map pre 1948 and it will say Palestine

[@Observer01-qn8eg]

Look at a bible from 1800s, you’ll find a map of Palestine, holy land. There was no Israel. Even when Israel was established by king David, it was done by force on natives land without their consent😅

[@BENTWOONEZERO]

@Observer01-qn8eg Jews are natives.

[@suhaimi205]

This caller just landed from outerspace.

[@purdysanchez]

The ability to rewrite History is their greatest endeavor

[@plantmaster1234]

The region was called that by some. There never was a Palestinian nation. Palestinian nationalism (just like zionism), mainly takes root in the 20th century. I doubt you will find many maps from the ottoman period that would call it that by the way. Many peoples controlled the levant over the centuries. Its been christian, islamic and jewish land over the centuries. Everyone over there can take old maps that 'show' it used to be their land. The argument 'but i was here first' isnt going to bring a solution any closer. Because both sides can make a claim to that argument.

[@jimmystaddon4252]

the double standards these "people" use is shocking

[@ishaktv7806]

if you read their history you woundn't be shocked anymore

[@HassanAli-xl8kr]

There was no Israel before 15th May 1948

[@Player456London]

Exactly it's like his history began there 😆 foolish caller

[@peterbushby9009]

Never been arab Palestine

[@calmingcrist4515]

Rhetorical question; what's the difference between "the chosen people" and "the master race"?

[@shalahuddinumar3386]

The master race atleast have a stylish wardrobe and didn't claim themselves as a victim

[@MoroccanAnwar]

Actually AH sounds completely different than what we were taught since I've been listening to Ai translations of his speaches.

[@gerrybailey447]

The Master Race was conceived by a madman but the "chosen people" were given their status by their invisible friend. So there's a huge difference. 😆

[@RoseBenson-jv5xm]

@@shalahuddinumar3386 Yes, they did think of them selves as victims. Everybody else was out to get them according to mustache man.

[@naeemahmed5236]

NOT everybody else actually, nice try

[@naturesound8660]

He even couldn’t say great Israel with equal rights for everyone. He just want a South Africa before Mandela!

[@bobbygabriel9574]

Exactly - with Bantustans.

[@GillianRose-ok7ig]

This dude doesn't even know how ridiculous he sounds!

[@SallyMarvin-c9g]

Hopefully he will read the comments.....then he will be in no doubt!

[@subchan6595]

then how come the names of the top gazan clans or families actually describe their geographical origin and its not British palestine ? Al Saud - saudi arabia, Al Masri - egypt, Al Kurd - kurdistan, Al Bagdadi - Iraq, Al Sudani - sudan, Al Buschrab - Bosnia, Al Turki - turkey. Do these family names sound native to you ??

[@adamdymke8004]

His vote still counts the same as your's.

[@RyuukishinoKain]

​@@subchan6595of course not, correct native name would be Mileikowsky or Al-Constantini or Goldmann.

[@toordal]

You weren't informed by his lesson about the "Indians" in Arizona?

[@EconomicsDomain]

This caller is an outright liar. Should've been called out straight away.

[@HMG2119]

You have to let sycophants speak and dig a large hole for themselves, it how you find out what is truly in their sick and twisted hearts.

[@catherinehalligan-jolly396]

How would this old man like England to be taken over 🤔 and he is made a second class citizen in his own country ????

[@BadlydrawnBen]

It's happening

[@M.saeed247]

​@@BadlydrawnBenWhat the Anglo Saxons have come back?

[@MerlynMusicman]

SATIRE ALERT

[@sabinahusain1225]

👏 👏 Brilliantly stated

[@perirgensolsson3673]

I think Farage or might had been somebody else of the gang of 5 that asked for a friendly U.S. take over

[@tdayesso5272]

These are the types of people that made the State of Israel a scar on human conscience.

[@Christopher0632]

Resistance groups exist because oppression and injustice exists. The notion that these people are supposed to accept those terms with less rights and not fight back against that treatment is absurd. This European framing of the resistance as the source of the problem makes no sense.

[@socillizt4life]

Spot on brother.

[@luigifontana4164]

This thing that Israelis keep repeting that "It was never palestine" it's crazy... It's like saying that Tunisia was never Tunisia, Algeria was never Algeria etc.. you can say the same as nearly all countries that have freed themselves from colonial rule.

[@jacky5768]

apparently you're only a country if the west says so

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

So when did the Palestine country exist? We can go back to the Middle Ages when the Ottoman Empire ruled. Then the British from 1918 to 1948 when the UN created a 'partition plan'. What have I missed?

[@jacky5768]

@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 Who decides what a country is? so can i just say England isn't a country?

[@subchan6595]

then how come the names of the top gazan clans or families actually describe their geographical origin and its not British palestine ? Al Saud - saudi arabia, Al Masri - egypt, Al Kurd - kurdistan, Al Bagdadi - Iraq, Al Sudani - sudan, Al Buschrab - Bosnia, Al Turki - turkey. Do these family names sound native to you ??

[@foofighter7683]

@@subchan6595 how about Mileikowsky, doest this sound native to you ? XD

[@fedbomb]

There has always been a Palestine and one day it will be free for all Palestinians.

[@CuriousJoorge]

Is that a fact😂?

[@liamfarrell3281]

Fallastine / Palestine was coined BCE130. The Canaan has been called Palestine for all but 500 years of recorded history.

[@subchan6595]

nahh - any palestinian coins were minted with the word palestine and the hebrew letters Aleph / Yud next to it - which stands for Eretz Yisroel, the land of Israel

[@DavidMcdonald-df8tb]

You don't need to add the E. BC works just fine

[@liamfarrell3281]

For Christian’s mane but the majority of people a none Christian and besides it cost nothing to show respect to others.

[@DavidMcdonald-df8tb]

@@liamfarrell3281 if you are referring to the BCE you are showing disrespect to everyone. First off I am not a Christian. The BCE came about to control thinking. People that like to control others will say you can no longer use certain words to get power over you. The Gregorian calendar is still being used. If you don't want to use something Christian then stop using that. You can think of BC as backwards counting and AD as adding dates. Again I'm not Christian. I don't even like Christianity. I am standing up against tyranny when I speak up against thought crimes

[@liamfarrell3281]

@@DavidMcdonald-df8tb the terms BC and AD were both invented to set a before / after distinction in the Christian calendar; they implied importance to a Christian figure; especially the Latin abbreviation AD. Setting the term or changing these terms are just as thought controlling as each other. Adding E changes the importance of the Christian figure to one that signifies nothing more than a chronological era. Sorry you got triggered. Hope you have a nice evening David. Shalom Aliekem.

[@folken1761]

It was literally called the British mandate in PALESTINE!!

[@jonathanrichter4256]

It was literally RENAMED from Judea (i.e. the land of the Jews) to Syria Palestina by the Romans after the Bar Kokhba Revolt in 132 CE. They renamed it as an explicit slap at the Jews.

[@folken1761]

@jonathanrichter4256 and it was Canaan before that

[@Pårchmēntôs]

@@jonathanrichter4256 you can play this game with any piece of land in history. Philistine is recorded in the Old Testament. It’s even older than Judea and it actually ruled that kingdom for hundreds of years.

[@Pårchmēntôs]

⁠​⁠@@jonathanrichter4256 you can play that game with anything in history. Philistine is even more ancient and actually ruled Judea for hundreds of years.

[@plantmaster1234]

@@Pårchmēntôs Phillistine was not an arab country. They were greeks.

[@asimshafaq3170]

Why didn't James push back on the lie that there was no country called Palestine. Is he going soft. Golda Meir said that she was a citizen of Palestine. She had a Palestinian passport.

[@muniraakherwaray2860]

Golda Meir was born in Kiev and moved to UK then USA with parents. She was heavily involved in lobbying for a nationalist state for jews. Travelled extensively to and from Palestine, that's how she had a Palestinian passport. One sneaky way of stamping your mark on a land that's not yours. There were people living there already.

[@CuriousJoorge]

It was a British colony not an actual country. Hence the reason there was no king, president, or prime minister and they were using British currency. Besides, if it was an actual country that had Jewish citizens, why aren't there Jewish Palestinians today?

[@sandilengcobo7904]

This caller’s thinking is a prime example of colonialist imperial thinking. He sees nothing wrong with discriminating people on the basis of race or religion.

[@naturesound8660]

He said that the West Bank was never Palestine but was an Arab area. So according to his apartheid and racism statement, if it is an Arab area, it must be an Arab state, not Israel?

[@beandinner1262]

If Israel is can be called a democracy, then I'm not sure that a democracy is the best form of government anymore.

[@Titus9508]

Ask the Ethiopian Jews who moved to Israel about Democracy and rights....

[@mckoz523]

Of course it's not a democracy anyone with some intelligence knows that..

[@plantmaster1234]

@@mckoz523 You think Israeli elections are rigged? please elaborate

[@socillizt4life]

@@Titus9508 Yeah, spot on. The Ethiopian Jews & other African Jews get treated appallingly by the general population, the police & the regime. I mean they were literally being injected with birth control medication without their knowledge, never mind with their consent.

[@mrthewhite2620]

Love this notion that a population who have never been given the opportunity to govern themselves have somehow "proven" they can't govern themselves.

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

The so-called Palestinians were offered statehood by the UN in 1947/8. And refused. Offered a 2-state solution in the Camp David talks. And refused. And in the Oslo Accords. And refused. What they say they want is "from the river to the sea", in other words, all of it.

[@uneti463]

@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210because 700,000 people wwre forced out of their homes and their kids killed! would you settle for that?

[@jeffreymelanson4549]

They certainly enriched Lebanon.

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

@@jeffreymelanson4549 An enrichment which destroyed the country.

[@frankghazal]

Thank you for explaining 10% of what happened.

[@shirleynanono6428]

There are 27 European countries. The French don’t want to live in Moldova. And they shouldn’t have to. You can’t waltz into someone’s house and declare that it’s yours because 3000 years ago someone who practiced your religion once lived in the area.

[@vaclavkubicek2970]

The ICJ clarification of 19.08.2024 states: 1. Israel must leave all illegally occupied territories (Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem...SYRIAN GOLAN HEIGHTS). 2. Israel and all supporters of the illegal occupation are obliged to pay reparations (US, Germany, UK...).

[@eshaibraheem4218]

Thank you, Vaclav.

[@mossmm73]

But in reality do You Expect Zionists to abide by ICJ I personally know if Zionists were to abide by just few of conditions of ICJ or ICC the Earth would stop rotating

[@SilverBlackG]

Ok, so he doesn't want to call them Palestinians, call them natives. Israelis are majority European immigrants.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

He did compare them to Native Americans!

[@BENTWOONEZERO]

Nearly a million came from north Africa and the middle east.

[@SilverBlackG]

@eshaibraheem4218 yes, another people shoved into small enclaves by colonialists.

[@SilverBlackG]

@@BENTWOONEZERO immigrants then. Still a minority imposing themselves on the majority who were already there. Okay pal.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

@@SilverBlackG Exactly.

[@donquijotedelamancha3529]

I certainly don't know how to solve this issue, but bringing up the "Indian" reservations in the US as a solution is indeed ludicrous and embarrassing.

[@CuriousJoorge]

Why's that?

[@Aubrey_Harris]

It is so frustrating to hear someone so indoctrinated by propaganda to claim that a people never existed, or to ignore that they were forced from their homes at gunpoint en masse and so would have the natural desire to want their homes back. The language of human rights they use ignores that human rights are not a selection from a buffet but a collection of interdependent rights, not merely the practice of religion, but of identity, of choosing their form of government and even to collectively form a country.

[@FIGHTINGtheLIES]

Please tell me the name of any president/prime minister of palestine, please tell me what currency palestine used, please tell me what year the country of palestine began, please show me the national flag of palestine that doesn't have the start of david on it, and before the current one was invented in 1964 by yassar arafat, (an egyptian)

[@cheesecake7384]

@@FIGHTINGtheLIES take a shower

[@FIGHTINGtheLIES]

@ can't answer any of the questions though can you f-witt...

[@RubenWithTheE]

@@FIGHTINGtheLIESwas there an Israeli prime minister before 1948?

[@user-zy3jg1dc3y]

@FIGHTINGtheLIES, it was a part of British empire and before it was a part of the Ottoman empire as a province. What does it even matter if there was prime minister or not? If there was not a prime minister, you have the right to fill the territory with immigrants and expel the locals?

[@user-ho8nk8ik8o]

He couldn't even get round to using the word Palestinians, it offends him so much.

[@MJSSPACE192]

The man is something else I can’t believe what he saying

[@jr.v629]

The ignorance on earth is deafening. There’s absolutely no way we have made it this far without some outside intervention.

[@najwaalsadi]

This caller is out of his mind, everything he said it was nothing but lies. Either ill informed or just a liar. Palestinians are the original inhabitants of Palestine but according to this caller he wants to rewrite history.

[@EpicCrust]

No they are Bedouins

[@MajorCharlesCarringtonV.C]

Obviously never heard of the philistines

[@firebyrd437]

​@@EpicCrustBedouins are merely tribes of people that move around as once the Hebrew tribe did. You really need to do a little research on the actual reality of the people of Caanan.

[@EpicCrust]

@@firebyrd437 yes they travelled around and came to the levant when Jews started moving in and building the economy of that region. Pre 1948 if you called an Arab a Palestinian they would have looked at you funny. It was only in the 1960s when a new York lawyer came up with the flag that this type of Guerella warfare started. There wouldn't even be a Palestine mentioned if there were no Jews as it would just be part of a larger state like Egypt or Jordan

[@MajorCharlesCarringtonV.C]

@@EpicCrust utter DRIVEL

[@paladinbob1236]

as soon as the caller says "they are not palestinians" you know he has been following israeli propandanga....and with a causal "ah, i know who side he is on"...we can pigeonhole this caller into one sides catagory rather than being caller with a neutral prespective :( great draw out by james, this man just hangs himself verbally with everyword :(

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

Palestinian people were invented by the Arab Block at the United Nations in 1964. You can find their Charter online. It even includes their border aspirations (no Gaza and no West Bank).

[@therewdy4038]

And you can hear he is 100% European. Should of been told, you are not Israeli you are from Europe!

[@MusehanaH]

@strategicsaccu-maths9210, so Palestinians was an invention by Arab nations? Where did they come come and what is their ethnicity?

[@donincognito189]

@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 And yet Palestine (in varying forms of spelling) can be traced back to Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs dating around the time of Ramses II, including a war between the people who lived there and Ramses III.

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

@@donincognito189 Its unclear where the name comes from, but its believed to originate from traders from Greece and Cypress. The current land name was given to the area by Emperor Hadrian in CE135 when he exiled the Jews and renamed their land. I very much doubt that you would find this name in ancient Egypt, unless referring to trade.

[@byurBUDdy]

Curious, before 1948 there were Palestinian stamps, currencies, birth certificates, and passports. Those should not exist if there was no state or government recognized as Palestine.

[@talksmoke1190]

😂😂😂

[@fposhaughnessy]

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

[@rashdondoesntunderstandwor-g1x]

why should the lion (israel) listen to the opinions of mice? (islamic nations)

[@miaj1949]

That caller is delusional. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@sarychm6061]

@@Connor-0p900from occupation in the West and embargo in the South.

[@brizzNcheese]

Westerners talking about “democracy” will always be funny to me. Then they speak about civility and human rights as their history is littered with mayhem and atrocities. Spare us!

[@charlespirate1]

Utterly delusional. People like this refuse to look honestly at what Isreal is and does.

[@WaluigiMangione]

Caller wants a Palestinian bantustan, not a real state Self-determination for me not for thee!

[@hQ86610]

This caller thinks like a 1700 American settler. Same mentality

[@odorutori]

This is what the words "banality of evil" describe

[@osmanjaro]

Germany was a democracy in 1933. We all know how that went.

[@supernoodles91]

I love how James allows these people to dig themselves a hole!

[@pipins3616]

How Trump today, has he phoned James yet😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BeowulfBeowulf-f7b]

The occupation is illegal. The law is clear and must be upheld. There must be no negotiations, the law is clear and must be upheld.

[@PoshMurder]

Well done for carrying on the conversation, you destroyed his arguments one by one with absolute ease. Was a pleasure to listen to.

[@supertaz6666]

James your a legend ❤❤❤ and not afraid to speak on facts

[@chemcintosh9704]

What is disgusting is the obvious celebration of the civilians enabling Hamas as this being a victory for Hamas. Hamas needed to have surrendered but their strategy is to wait for the idf to eliminate all of the human shields they used as 'willing martyrs'

Imagine being kicked out of your home and then given permission to access parts of it but its now called your greater federal home.

[@Dave-kg9bb]

The caller shows a complete lack of awareness of issues in this region. Should have community notes on YT.

[@alexmiller7721]

I'm surprised he wasn't rubbing his hands with glee at the suggestion of ghettos. After all, Herzl himself wrote in his diaries that Jews being forced to live in ghettos might not be such a bad idea. Funny how they don't teach that, and many other things he wrote in his diaries, in Israeli schools.

[@IronThreads08]

I'll never forgive this country for how complicit it was in Gaza's destruction. We sat by and watched Gaza turn into Eastern Ukraine, because we considered some militarised ethnostate as an ally. All the while, the constant finger-wagging from militant Jews saying that we should care about them and their land, for no reason other than that we should.

[@ibrahim.1606]

This isn’t fringe craziness. It’s the policy making philosophy in Israel and in the bought west.

[@zink6379]

I am a white south african. And i know that an aparthied state can never be a democracy. Plain and simple.

[@mohammadkahil8255]

Thank you James for objective stand point

[@adnanebekkaoui9480]

Oh, thank you, O'Brien, for pushing this person this far. When he uses Indians in America as an example to describe the alternatives for the Palestinian situation, doesn't that mean the Palestinians are the native ones here?

[@eshaibraheem4218]

Yes, thank you, Adnan.

[@OBGYNdoc405]

Can you imagine if some one said there are no such thing as an Israeli as this man said Palestinian … absolutely insane

[@samboy90]

Funnily enough there’s actually no such thing as an “Israeli”.

[@subchan6595]

then how come the names of the top gazan clans or families actually describe their geographical origin and its not British palestine ? Al Saud - saudi arabia, Al Masri - egypt, Al Kurd - kurdistan, Al Bagdadi - Iraq, Al Sudani - sudan, Al Buschrab - Bosnia, Al Turki - turkey. Do these family names sound native to you ??

[@alfharry1446]

​@subchan6595 take a look at Netanyahu's family name and the same goes for many of the Israeli leaders and governments they are mostly Eastern European, so not native either

[@SentaDuck]

@@subchan6595 For the same reason the British upper classes have Norman French names but most British people have little Norman French ancestory.

[@zuzu-z1t1f]

​@@alfharry1446don't listen to him, he's definitely lying about the Palestinian last names

[@jabberjaw84]

But Where and HOW do you find these lunatics??

[@IcarianX]

Go read a Times of Israel comments section. You will see far, far worse than this horrible old man.

[@apprehensiveway]

What's wrong with humanity. I can't fathom saying what the caller is saying.

[@AbdullahMehmed-m3q]

Caller is an outright liar .If you live under an colonial partheid regime which controls your movement and the flow of goods and energy etc.Which also has raided your holy places you are certainly not free .People like this caller are the reason the world is in such,a mess .One rule for some and another for the others .That is not how a society operates in the world.

[@harveybrown37]

The caller is a Joker! My City of London Church has a 3D Map from 1912 when the City worthies visited 'The Holy Land of Palestine'

[@subchan6595]

yeah and next to it was the hewbrew letters Alpeh Yud which stands for Eretz Yisrael, the land of Israel.

[@harveybrown37]

@subchan6595 'hewbrew' and absolute Twaddle indeed! It was the Land of Palestine. Only 16,000 Jews lived in Palestine when Zionism began.

[@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210]

@harveybrown. Your information is incorrect. In 1912, the area was ruled by the Ottoman Empire. It was renamed to Palestine in 1918, when Britain received a Mandate to administer the territory.

[@harveybrown37]

@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210 Not so on the 1912 City of London Map. Ottoman ran or not it was called Palestine.

[@Titus9508]

​@@e-strategicsaccu-maths9210Only yesterday I was studying the 1570 Orbis Terrarum map of Palestine. How odd!

[@jabberjaw84]

It was called BRITISH MANDATE PALESTINE... The British Mandate for Palestine (1918-1948) was an area that was given by the British to the zionist to establish a new country called Israel. They gave away someone elses land to another group of people that came mainly from Europe. What were the natives supposed to do? I suppose just dissappear.

[@BENTWOONEZERO]

Pakistan ?

[@NigelQuintyne]

People like this caller made me switch off lbc

[@rprobp186]

“I won’t listen to anything opinions I don’t agree with” 🙄

[@Jad490]

Palestinians OWN the land! Despite whether the UN recognised them as a country or not!! They’re the indigenous people of the land.. Israel is a setter colonial state. Simple as.

[@BlackJ1234]

HAHAHAHA The land was origionally called ISRAEL... hence Israeli are the actual indigenous

[@-Matrix1994]

​@@BlackJ1234haha that's it😂. Before 1948 it’s was Palestine it will be Palestine again

[@talksmoke1190]

Wasn't pali and they didn't own it

[@FuadMohamed-k7o]

"A sick imagination projecting it's own darkness onto others, an imagination that cannot countenance the idea of living in a world alongside other people equally with equal rights ". Arundhati Roy.

[@davidkeogh1570]

I can never understand the nerve some people have telling others they should live under an apartheid system, accept they have no rights or autonomy,the fkng nerve of somebody to say that,eould that calker accept that for himself and his family,woukd he not fight to change the system or would he just accept the situation and like sheep follow his masters wishes,.

[@Oneflyingchair]

What a deranged bloke. The way he utters misinformation with such confidence is horrifying

[@yaa_sin]

The term "ghetto" was first coined in Italy around the 1500s by the Christians who wanted a separate living place for the Jews to live (usually in bad conditions) often in lowly places.

[@kgbsov6610]

So jews are now repeating this ?

[@chemcintosh9704]

In what ghetto is the birthrate is 3.8?

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

The irony

[@RoseBenson-jv5xm]

I mean the name of the island, not that Jews are required to live there still.

[@convey1ayah972]

imagine someone else's popped up in your house from nowhere then they take your home and then they send you and ur family to the shed tell you to be happy with that..but if you resist they call you terrorist.. how do you react?

[@-everythingsRosie]

STOP MAKING ME LOOK AS BAD AS I AM! It fascinates me how self unaware some people are. The words come out of their mouths, make a point, then double down on their point as if you don’t understand them. You literally repeat what they say and they get all flustered because you are making them seem like a horrible person because coming out of your mouth, their horrible words make them look horrible! Fascinating!

[@subchan6595]

the top gazan clans or families actually describe their geographical origin and its not British palestine ? Al Saud - saudi arabia, Al Masri - egypt, Al Kurd - kurdistan, Al Bagdadi - Iraq, Al Sudani - sudan, Al Buschrab - Bosnia, Al Turki - turkey. Do these family names sound native to you ??

[@supernoodles91]

I was listening and kept thinking.......'stop digging mate!

[@-everythingsRosie]

@@subchan6595 are you asking me that??

[@-everythingsRosie]

@@supernoodles91 Right?! 🤦🏼‍♀️ Enough to drive a person to drink I tell ya! 🥃

[@holdeeznutz7735]

Long live the resistance!! ✌🏽 ❤ 🔻🔻🔻👍🏼

[@hulkhogan5605]

The keenness of O’Briens mind and riposte leaves the caller fumbling for words who is clearly reciting from an Israeli script .

[@friedeswide]

He never answered what’ll happen to ‘half Israeli, half Palestinian, citizen’

[@MickeRudolfsson]

7:50 Israel is the only democratic country? When the majority of people want the PM gone, is it then democratic to stay put?

[@senvolic2148]

I find it astonishing that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Palestine is indeed a County recognised by the vast majority of the World's States (within the 1967 Borders), roughly the same number that recognises Israel as a Country (within those same borders).... Otherwise how can Israel be an "occupying power" as per the UN and ICJ... If the they are not occupying another country called Palestine🤔 This notion that we need to pull out a 2 State Solution out of a bag afresh is absolute nonsense!!! There are already 2 States there as recognised by almost everyone, and one state is being occupied by another, all that needs to happen is that the occupier stops occupying and we have a Solution innit😀

[@Katy-sh3ru]

Bang on

[@BENTWOONEZERO]

So Pakistan should stop occupying part of India ?

[@Player456London]

They call thousands of innocent children, women, and men released prisoners instead of also been hostages.

[@UziRaz]

Theres a large group like this man, these people exist

[@maxmartin7080]

Completely bonkers caller! Living in a bubble!

[@raydawson851]

He seems to have forgotten that Britain occupied a territory called PALESTINE and gave part of it to the Jews and the Balfour agreement said that they had to live peacefully with the Palestinians. But the Jews decided to take over more of Palestine and leave the Palestinians in 2 small areas, one of which they occupied!

[@hmishin843]

Calling Israel a Democracy is like calling a Brothel a dating service.

[@abdullahjan4567]

The fact that the caller is saying all these vicious and derogatory things so calmly is actually the real issue here, not the words, but the way with which they are being said.

[@alasdairgood3929]

When this caller says there were never such as Palestinians he clearly doesn't know anything about Palestine. The name derives from Phillistine. The Romans called it Palestine as did the British and the rest of the World. Utter fool.

[@CT-zg2mh]

In 1948 Israel self declared a state. You know, the thing the Palestinians are somehow not allowed to do.

[@tracysauvage1351]

Thanks James... From Ireland 🇮🇪 Don't know how you kept your temper. That man was talking absolute bigotry whilst attempting to sound reasonable. ❤🇵🇸🕊

[@donodono2287]

Callers voicing opinions, reasoning and justification like this one are part of the problem.

[@Adamant1234]

Thanks James for all your efforts! You are truly awesome!❤

[@aldenpadilla1773]

All the human rights organizations including hrw, amnesty, btselem, icc and 90% of the world considers Israel an apartheid state. Why dafuq are people even debating about this topic when it's a fact easily verifiable if you visit european (Israeli) occupied Palestine. The natives have different rules and are judged by military law while jewish settlers living in the same area are judged by civilian law and can vote in elections. According to Jewish virtual library, there were only 5% jews in 1920 Palestine and now over 80%! Imagine if syrians become 80% of uk population and kick out britishers, will Zionists agree with that?

[@Diom1982]

"The mandate" created Israel he says.... The mandate of whom exactly? Not the people actually living there!

[@kevinsmarts9953]

Golda Meir held a Palestine passport from the country of Palestine. This caller is calling the founder of Israel a liar and undermining it as a nation by undermining its founder. Oops.