Why is the Ecoboost Mustang So Hated?

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

Ecoboost Mustang or Camaro 4CYL? And don't say neither that's no fun.

[@nnunges89]

Ecoboost mustang. But I’m biased

[@BlkDragonEmperor]

RS Camaro fo sho

[@JacobJones-sd6ly]

Neither lol sorry mopar or no car

[@787blah]

@@JacobJones-sd6ly you mean boat or no boat?

[@kylehedrick7551]

Ecoboost

[@frequencyzx11]

the ecoboost fills a role that I think a lot of other brands are lacking in, there are nearly no other rwd, turbo 4 cylinder cars that you can buy that are worth a damn

[@frequencyzx11]

@Willham the ecoboosts only "crime" is that it is just offered in a car that also has a coyote option. If Ford had their own gr86 type car but it had the 2.3 or 2.7 ecoboost people would lose their minds. But because the coyote is an option people just totally discredit how much fun turbo 4 cylinders are.

[@gamerguy6990]

@@frequencyzx11 yes

[@potatochobit]

that is because adults buy six and eight cylinder cars like the GT stinger that is RWD or AWD. the only role this car fill is if you want a mustang and are poor.

[@frequencyzx11]

@@potatochobit you're likely 13 so that's okay to have bad opinions. Some of the most legendary cars have 4 or less cylinders. Peugeot 205 t16, Ford rs2000, the escort cosworth, civic type r, lotus elise, miatas, evos, eclipse, Subarus. All of those cars are badass. Children disregard platforms without knowing anything.

[@potatochobit]

@@frequencyzx11 I am not poor like you, my little man. I owned a brand new 1997 eclipse and an FD3S RX7 when they were new. I know you think 30 years later you are a cool little man in your rusted hot rod but I drove a 300,000$ aston martin AMR today, have you? nothing wrong with 4 cylinders but please stop pretending your fat mustang with your mom's ford escape engine is badass. It is a decent car to go to work and that is it.

[@albertadams1982]

Those 4-cylinder models allow the V-8 to stay in production (for the time being, at least); one reason being it helps offset the CAFE standards. It's like how SUVs have pretty much saved companies that were primarily known for their sports cars). Porsche is a great example: The introduction of the Cayenne and its success gave them a lot of funds to put towards their true passion: motorsport and making fast, great-handling cars

[@TSL73]

Also, Mustangs have had a 4 cylinder before too

[@lil_knight_turbo]

I absolutely agree.

[@dac232009]

I hate mustangs and Camaros both equally and what makes it worse my nieces boyfriend has a 4 banger mustang to be honest I hate cars they make me mad when I’m forced to drive them If I was the president I would make all cars illegal and melted into production for trucks what trash

[@lil_knight_turbo]

@@dac232009 if you were president not enough people would agree so it just wouldn’t happen. Jacked up trucks are equally useless for highways, they don’t control well at high speeds and the tires are louder than the exhaust. Plus there’s the gas mileage but we aren’t worrying about that. The whole reason sportscars exist is to enjoy driving while traveling. It’s fine for me because I don’t have to carry large objects to work with me, even if I did the back seats fold down.

[@lil_knight_turbo]

@@dac232009 also if you hate cars so much you’re watching the wrong video.

[@cardiacdrummer5443]

You know, this car is really a looker. One thing I must say about Mustangs are the endless combinations their owners have at their disposal. Kudos to the owner with this beautiful build

[@HairCrazyGurl101]

Thank you!

[@j.a.g.8689]

You like the static?

[@NorthernChev]

Any spectator at a Cars and Coffee: "Oh, look, a modified Mustang. Oh, look honey, over here is another modified Mustang... and over here... another... modified Mustang..."

[@TodayWeTry]

its rare to see one s550 look like another they are usually are unique looking with the combo of different options

[@eizlaniskandar7946]

Ecoboost is better than Mach E, as its really a Mustang

[@i_read_bad_reviews]

The 3.5 eco boost would have been crazy

[@brodyhanna7443]

It would've competed against the 5.0 it's the only reason why they didn't. FBO tune and your making 5.0 numbers

[@mefool8575]

@@brodyhanna7443 it’s in the transit van😌

[@surrealinabox5220]

I got a 400AWHP Edge Sport with the 2.7TT V6 that keeps up with 5.0s. Can't go wrong with the 3.5 Ecoboost nor the 2.7 Ecoboost V6s.

[@brodyhanna7443]

@@mefool8575 I know I've seen a few videos in the UK of them done up with big turbos. Pretty wild

[@hunterphille1280]

That would have been a better choice for the Mustang. That engine is pretty impressive in the trucks, so it would be a homerun in the Mustang

[@WardSpose]

Kids forget Ford and Cosworth been hanging together for a long time.

[@madmod]

I wish we got a rear drive escort in the states.

[@ClarkBark14]

Kids never knew.

[@Jallu555]

@@madmod Whats the difference with rear drive escort and normal escort?

[@madmod]

@@Jallu555 better power to the ground, better weight transfer. Plus transverse engines leads to a lot of weak points like axles and weird fitment issues.

[@madmod]

Even the awd 92 Ford escort rs cosworth was capable of 150mph and made about 225hp. Pretty stout imho

[@mustangdee_8760]

I got much respect for the modern cars. I come from an Era where muscle cars made between 250-300hp at one point and 4-6cyl cars was lucky to see over 200hp. My first sports car was an 92 Mitsubishi Eclipse with the 1.8 making all of 92hp. It was a 5 speed manual and I drove it like I was on the fast and furious. Even put an exhaust and intake on it lol. The fact that 4 bangers make over 300hp now is pretty cool. The mod potential is through the roof. This is a great time to be a car guy and I like the fact you can buy base model vehicles and still get great performance.

[@junsuzuki1412]

A year after this video came out and i finally got to drive one. After driving it I cannot hate. It handles incredibly well, has enough horsepower to keep up with traffic, and is quick enough to embaress a lightly tuned civic Si. I looked at buying one, and saw that they have the option for a CARB legal Ford Performance tune, a quicker limited slip differential rear end, carb legal intake and exhaust setup. It's all fairly priced as well and allows us out here in california to have a fun 4 cyl turbo rwd car that you can modify without worrying about the police.

[@SpyderRios]

The EcoStang is a great sports car. Looks great, goes fast and you can modify it to your liking. I say it's a car for the younger crowd that grew up wanting a turbo "tuner" car but it also works for anyone that just wants to drive a fun car that looks good. The V8 is what I have and the one I will keep forever. 😊

[@mrdauntl3ss]

After 400hp they crack the block so

[@genericjosh96]

I own a 16 eco boost and I didn’t buy it because it’s the cheaper mustang, I bought it because I wanted a good looking modern rwd turbocharged car. The aftermarket is huge and the stock block is good for around 400 whp, you can get a built block that will hold 700. Some people just didn’t want the v8

[@genericjosh96]

@@mrdauntl3ss 400 wheel is the limit for a reliable stock eco boost. Usually 500 wheel is where they blow up. Which is pretty impressive for a 2.3l

[@deluxegdm7435]

@@genericjosh96 kinda impressive.

[@j4y167]

"fast" 😂😂😂 this shitbox shouldnt exist. The immense weight and dogshit handling of a v8 pony car with the gutless motor of a honda civic. Imagine driving a mustang that could never hope to compete with a lightly modified 90s honda without cracking its block

[@juliusfernandez2206]

It’s seems like the only people that hate the ecoboost are people that don’t even have a Mustang 😂

[@chaboi7]

Exactly, ppl seem to hate on it till they actually drive one

[@jesuslatino8890]

Yeah, some time ago i meet a guy who was saying that eco boost is NOT "a real" Mustang...... and later that month he bought a 1.2 Skoda. Car is fast, it looks good, it uses "reasonable" amount of fuel- and handles weel.... What's not to like.

[@chaboi7]

@@Nothinghere534 why?

[@ThePery123]

@@Nothinghere534 because you had the gay ass automatic 😂

[@dac232009]

Honestly I hate cars with a passion and mustang are my second most hated passion but Ferrari is my first I just got of jail for parking my truck on top of a Ferrari sob! Was rude at me at Whole Foods in Austin I had enough so I smashed his p.o.s the police said it was a Ferrari Enzo idgaf what it was is it’s a Ferrari pancake now😂

[@rooseveltj.]

I definitely feel like the eco is for first time sports car people who want the style. I am personally glad I got the eco before the v8 because it gave me the chance to learn how to handle the power

[@Compound__Z]

Agreed, I would love to have the coyote sound and power but my EcoBoost has taught me so much!

[@MrRobVision]

Just be real. U didn't have the money or the credit for the V8.

[@rooseveltj.]

@@MrRobVision no I had the money I even have proof on my channel. I have a 2018 premium and I got it about 2 years ago now which at the the time was worth about 30k used so I was only 5k away from a 2018 base GT or I could have just gotten a 2016 GT premium for the same amount.

[@Apollo5752353]

@@MrRobVision "Hurr, ur poor so u don't get teh V8!" Really selling your point there home eh? How about you learn what *Personal taste* is

[@MrRobVision]

@@Apollo5752353 it sounds like the Ecoboost is more your speed and power too 🤣

[@SicSemperBeats]

Outside of the crappy exhaust noise there’s legit zero reason to hate this car. I hated eco boosts until i drove a few stock ones (pp and non pp), and then a tuned one. You instantly understand when you drive the damned thing. That being said ive always wanted to see the absolutely gnarly v6 ecoboosts in a coupe (outside of the rich man club gt)

[@garnerblair5179]

Exhaust noise could be beautiful if theyd add one cylinder and make it an inline 5 . Would also make a great replacement for the loss of the v6 .

[@Adierit]

I wonder if anyones ever tried swapping the v6 ecoboost from the trucks into one of these? It's the same displacement as the one thats in the GT, so I wonder if you built the internals if it would reach the same power without falling apart.

[@guitarsandcars2586]

But I've seen GT mustangs with the V8s for the same price or less than the newer V6 and 4 cylinder ones. Plus a gt can still get 20+ mpg if driven carefully. We need more V8s out there.

[@michaelterry85]

This guy gets it

[@1BuckeyeRob]

Farrrrrt sounds = hard pass.

[@dreadhawk861]

I think the eco boost isn't really a bad option. Considering bang for the buck, and future mods it's actually pretty good.

[@6z0]

All you need is FBO big turbo e85 and you’re gapping V8s easy

[@rickitysplitz7035]

@@6z0 You can apply that to the V8 5.0s and it would have a hard time catching up, not to mention that Ecoboosts are generally shitty engines and don't last long, especially under more stress with the mods you mentioned. You will burn oil and throw rods in no time.

[@6z0]

@@rickitysplitz7035 Definitely not… I had a FBO E85 focus ST with a gtx2867 big turbo and was pushing 450whp for over 2 years. From 60k miles to 110k miles, was super reliable and gapped V8s all day.

[@robertomedina235]

@@6z0 That is not the same engine. The focus ST engine is far superior to the one in the mustang ecoboost. The mustang eco blows up stock and if you add power mods it is just a ticking time bomb.

[@6z0]

@@robertomedina235 Untrue. The Mustang’s 2.3L Ecoboost is much quicker than the 2.0L Ecoboost in the Focus ST, and they are very very similar engines. Plus the Mustang is RWD

[@AmericanExotic]

Ecoboosts are amazing, light weight, quick, and with a few mods and the ten speed its a proper canyon car.

[@midnight347]

10 speed auto or any auto isn't ideal for the twisties. A well driven manual is better. Problem is most people suck at driving. Autos overheat in canyons and on road courses much quicker.

[@AmericanExotic]

@@midnight347 cool story bro.

[@areyou0k98]

@@midnight347 sure for cars from the 80s and 90s. A 2022 10 speed isn't "having trouble in the twisties"

[@hakeemsd70m]

@@midnight347 Not everybody knows someone who will teach them to drive stick.

[@PURENT]

I wouldn't say they're light weight.

[@777jones]

I just drove an Ecoboost Mustang for a week in Hawaii. The transmission in sport mode keeps the engine on boost. This made it respond like a V8. It actually drove quite well. Turbo lag was minimal. The Mustang is ridiculously large - the size of a Lincoln or an SUV. But the powertrain was good. The chassis was fairly good also.

[@TheBigred1781]

I was a huge fan of the SVO. I had an 86 comp prep SVO. Best suspension from factory on a foxbody. Better brakes than the GT. Better seats & pedal placement. Not to mention 15-20hp more than the V8 of the same years. I think if they would've went that direction with the ecoboost, it may have gotten more love. Gave it factory options for performance parts not available on any other stang. I was happy to see 2.3T & mustang together again.

[@OllamhDrab]

I always liked the feel and balance of those Foxbody T-birds, and they had a nice basic shape you could make look cool, I thought: I drove a friend's very humdrum V6-auto-with-annoying digital dash quite a bit for a while, but thought it had nice qualities as a platform. Always have kinda had an eye out for one of those with a stick or V8 or the Turbo Coupe stuff. :)

[@devinej8411]

I put the 85.5 svo motor and trans in my 83 Ford ranger with a 98 explorer 8.8 rear with 4:11 gears and disk brakes I pray I can afford to do another sometime soon I wouldn't mind doing the same with one of the new motors. Also don't know if you were as disappointed as me when they said that they would have a twin cam version in 86 or 87 which obviously never happened which sucks bc when you take a Volvo 2.3l twin cam head and fit it they make an even better setup I've only seen 1 in person absolutely amazing.

[@Kev27RS]

It's a cool car, no doubt! The SVO might have had good performance but it having a 4 CYLINDER TURBO was a turn-off to be honest. It's just not appealing... Big V8 power is part of the American car culture! It's part of the appeal of an American sports car! If I want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car! 👍 The same goes for the BUICK GNX from the 80s. It had a V6 TURBO engine and good performance, it was really fast but... a V6 in an American sports car? No thanks! It also didn't last long in the market just like the SVO... *Emission regulations and oil crisis at that time were all part of the reason why those models got created to begin with...* American car manufacturers like Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford also didn't use 4 and 6 cylinder engines for their *most powerful* models, even in the following years and even decades! They always used *V8 engines* as they should! 4 and 6 cylinder versions exist, especially nowadays for a reason... but no one really cares about them! 👉 Go overseas and ask people what comes to their mind when they hear "American muscle car" or even "American sports car": *Big V8 Power* is one of the thoughts!

[@rawnrg1988]

So then why does a GN or GNX sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars now? At one point they were the fastest production car made 😮

[@Kev27RS]

@@rawnrg1988 Because it's an 80s - limited production car. It was only fast in a straight line! All that because of the turbo... Put a turbo or supercharger in a 5.0 Mustang, and see what happens!

[@sporadiceel6246]

Personally, I think Ford was pretty clear about it at launch. It's not trying to be a GT, it was just replacing the V6. But, with all the branding comes way more attention.

[@dac232009]

I just can’t imagine being stupid enough to buy a car or dumb enough to buy a ford I feel for your delusional decision hopefully you will buy a truck one day you will thank me so much more fun especially since you can screw your girl on a backroad in your truck you will thank me

[@michaelthomas5140]

I got the F-150 ecoboost and with a simple tune it is actually pretty fun to drive. It defiantly tows a lot better with the tune.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

The F-150 eco-boost is fun to drive w/o a tune. I have zero issues towing a 10,000 lb 29' center console with it. My truck enables my life it's not my life.

[@stevensaid2200]

It really is! My dad had the ecoboost f150 the first year it was out and with a simple electronic tune it was a beast. When I heard ford was making a ecoboost mustang I actually got really excited. Imagining the ecoboost out of the f150 in the mustang was a very exciting prospect. When it came out my disappointment was enormous.

[@DriftyBits]

So sad to see the "hate" I have a local guy I race with a EcoBoost and he damn gets top of his class. It's an amazing setup. Now, always remember the SVO. I used to own one and I'll chose a 4pot Turbo over a V8 almost every time.

[@turbojoe9554]

I have one. I'm actually impressed with it. It is not a GT. I also have a GT. For daily use and a lot of times weekend use, I choose the ecoboost over the GT. A10 in both. The GT is nice, it's powerful, it sounds decent (although certainly not like a traditional V8), but 23-25 mpg, vs the Ecoboost's 38-41 mpg--huge difference there. And the EB is a little easier and less expensive to maintain. Frankly, I dont drive the GT much and may end up selling it to free up funds for other investments.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

38 to 41 mpg.. not even.

[@turbojoe9554]

@@XxXDOMINIONXxX 47 on the last trip home-but had the wind at my back most of the time. Avg speed 50.6 mph. 69-76 deg F, 50% avg humidity, winter fuel, and barometer mid 29.70 range (uncorrected). If you can learn to use your right foot, pretend there's an egg between your foot and the pedal, it can (and easily does) happen. Don't accelerate up hills, coast downhill. while coasting, the injectors are cut off and fuel is not used-at least in Ford's strategy. Tire pressures need to be higher than "recommended" as well, I run em at 40 psi, seems to be best compromise between wear and low rolling resistance; based on tire temps across the tread. 3.15 rear diff A10.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

@@turbojoe9554 hell of a strategy!

[@chaboi7]

I just got a 2018 ecoboost with 60k miles on it, it's the convertible premium, such a beautiful car and extremely nice ride, I don't think im ever letting one go and I've always been a v8 camaro guy, I can see myself getting another mustang with the v8 but I cannot see myself letting this one get away.

[@ywe3]

i mean i average 29-34mpg with the 5.0 at 70 plus [i also have the 3.15] so economy isnt the selling point but the INSURANCE is.

[@em2attic]

Im just glad people understand that not everybody wants 1000hp V8 racecar and driving the ecoboost is a completely different driving experience from the coyote as well. I must say that all you need for the ecoboost to fix the dookie stock exhaust note is a big top mount turbo with a external gate to make the exhaust sound better. Im personally happy they decided to make the ecoboost its the diversity the chassis needed so you can see the greatness of the chassis from every aspect. Plus s550 look fire fitted and slammed as hell lol!

[@Tagiau]

You gotta do it the speed 3 way. the uel on that car made the 2.3 sound so good.

[@em2attic]

@@Tagiau if this car was able to take headers thatd be a no brainer for sure but since its integrated into the head with the single port it makes things hella hard. But i agree with you thatd be dope if it was possible to do without swapping to i think its the older version of the new focus head that has the individual exhaust ports.

[@Tagiau]

@@em2attic oh is the Ecoboost a single port? Yeah that'll make it hard to do anything.

[@waterloo123100]

My neighbor did that and it still doesn’t sound good. The eco boost is great but it doesn’t belong in the Mustang

[@angelgjr1999]

I have yet to hear a decent sounding EB mustang. They all sound like Hondas or like a g35.

[@williambright9810]

I love my 2020 ecoboost , it's done well in some races around town . Probably start modding it soon. Good mpg , cheap , great handling , and good enough power. Especially on prime days. Doesn't deserve the hate , I even had a 3.7 , and it was nowhere near as quick. Fun car tho

[@1cjoseph11]

I upgraded to my Ecoboost in 2015 from a 2006 v6. The s550 gt was too much at the time so I got what I could afford. I still have it and it’s paid for and while it lacks in certain departments (sound mostly), I love it. It always gets compliments and it’s a great daily driver.

[@dannylovell7876]

Yeah, paid off in the ultimate mod many people can't claim.

[@1cjoseph11]

@@dannylovell7876 hell yeah lol

[@davidrondon3454]

Yup, that's why I ended up going with the Ecoboost because I need it for daily driving. GTs are awesome but it's a good weekend car to drive for fun. I needed a car for my 30 minute commute to work as well as for fun. I think the Ecoboost is great for work and for play whereas the GT is great for play. Not only was the Ecoboost more fuel efficient, but it was cheaper at $28,000 compared to the GTs at $36,000 - $40,000 and higher which puts the monthly payments at like half my rent (which is also ridiculously high) I live at my means and don't get myself into things I can't afford. I don't want to fall in love with a car that I'm forced to trade in because I can't afford the payments/gasoline. I'm glad to see Ford make Mustangs for every class of people out there.

[@hakeemsd70m]

I would have kept the '06 Stang...

[@1cjoseph11]

@@hakeemsd70m I regret selling it everyday

[@supercarking2186]

I originally didn't like the Ecoboost Engines at all but after driving an F150 and a tuned Taurus SHO both with the 3.5 Ecoboost and rode in an Ecoboost Mustang I realized there is so much potential with this family of engines. Great platform but I wish there was more after market support than what is available now.

[@domesticatedape4378]

310hp, 350tq, 30+mpg hwy, rwd 4cyl Turbo. The ecostang is a legend

[@theepicricemaker6611]

Modified they can keep up with a 5.0 because they weigh less. Only stock tho.

[@richardlapoint1845]

@@theepicricemaker6611 yeah they have to be fbo to keep up with a stock coyote

[@Rodolfo_Ramos]

​​@@theepicricemaker6611 And they have better balance too, so you see quite a few of them in RWD rallysport.

[@angelgjr1999]

Ehh ecoboosts make decent power at the dynos. But in real commuting after you get heat soaked you don’t make as much.

[@guitarsandcars2586]

The 5.0 is better my guy. Ecoboost makes you sound like a pansy environmentalists. Plus, they will never sound as bada** as a V8.

[@alexpope5327]

The EcoBoost is a great car for it's intended purpose. It's a fun car to drive, a little more economical than a GT. and still has the S550 good looks. Plus a tune and a few bolt ons and it can be pretty quick. Makes a great daily driver. Now for a weekend warrior, Coyote all the way LOL...

[@thewolfofwikipedia3106]

Personally, I just bought a 2017 eco premium and absolutely love it. I think as the base Mustang model it does exactly what a pony car should: be a car for the ‘everyman’ that looks sexy and has a bit of sporty power for some weekend driving. Am very much an ordinary driver. Just use it for commuting, don’t take it to the track. Mostly got it just because it was a convertible, so for my purposes the 4 cylinder turbo does everything I need it to and puts the car in a different class than something like a Mini convertible or Mercedes CLA (other sporty-ish layperson cars). I find the combination of looks, fuel efficiency, practicality (having owned a CLA I cannot stress enough how much I love the high suspension which lets me not hit parking blocks), and performance I think is pretty much an unrivaled package and exactly why the Mustang was invented in the first place. If someone is a “real” sports enthusiast, that’s why they make the GT/Mach 1. Or just buy a Porsche.

[@stephenbearden5407]

Test drove a 6spd EcoBoost at Carmax just because a couple years ago and was really impressed...doesn't live up to the 5.0 but it's still a lot of fun especially for the money like you said

[@JustcallmeGnarly22]

I like the idea of a turbo I4 Mustang. However, if I was in the market for a Mustang I would get the GT. My thoughts are if I'm getting a Mustang I want the V8. Kinda like if I'm buying a Civic I want the Si.

[@hatch450sx3]

You'd be getting the much more reliable motor as well. Coyotes stretch thier legs at 600whp. With fuel mods and e85 stock motor can sprint well past 700-800whp. Some have recorded 1000whp stock motor.

[@Ram-rm2gz]

All comes down to what you want it for if you don’t care about the speed and you want something affordable less in insurance better mpg you’d get the ecoboost

[@davidrondon3454]

I used to think this way too, but gas prices have changed my mind

[@danielservin]

@@Ram-rm2gz coyotes with the 10spd have been known to average sub 30 on the hwy. an I’ll take a NA motor long term all day over a boosted motor

[@Ram-rm2gz]

@@danielservinthat makes no sense buying a 5.0 just to go speed limit and get 30 mpg might as well get a ecoboost you spend less on gas and insurance either way

[@bigfootgarage2201]

I love both the camaro and the mustang eco boost as their own platform i also can’t wait for the drift coupe videos at the end of this year

[@davidrunyon]

I had an Ecoboost convertible on vacation and I was very surprised how peppy it was. I've had an Ecoboost Fusion before and now I have a mustang GT Premium and really didn't mind the Ecoboost Mustang.

[@AP-wu1rv]

My buddy had an ecoboost modded and he would beat 5.0 and other v8 vehicles

[@FlightX101]

i did the same a few months ago in Atlanta. Its not break your neck fast but its definitely enough power for most people

[@anthony91688]

Driver mod only reason. Too many videos online of modded ecoboosts getting dusted by slower cars than 5.0’s. They are everywhere on KZbin

[@logancrouse6030]

I like that they brought out the Ecoboost. It's a well rounded car. But can't lie I'd love to see the 3.0 or 3.5 Ecoboost in one as well

[@patchnotesforlife]

This is the car that the internet will tell you to get over a BRZ/FRS but when you do get it, everyone shits on you 😂

[@Luke-lj6ts]

Facts bro, I love my 10 speed Ecoboost, there is no point in trying to please the hater’s.

[@Kev27RS]

😂 For real! I mean a 4 cylinder in a Mustang... Come on... If a want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car!

[@midnight347]

Honestly man mustangs in general get alot of hate from other manufacturers fans. As far as the coyote guys they shit on anything that isn't a coyote including other ford's so I wouldn't worry much about that lol. These are great for the money for sure and have good potential.

[@midnight347]

@@Kev27RS why do you have to get a foreign car if you get a 4 cylinder? You saying American manufacturers can't make cool 4 banger cars with potential that are very reliable and fun? My 16 fiesta st would like to disagree with that. Paid 21 for it new in 16 got about 4k in hp mods total and she's around 2600 lbs and doing about 280 hp and tq to the wheels. It's a very fun car that corners like it's on rails and I can average 22-26 mpg on e30 despite making 100 hp more than stock and being on ethanol mix (e30 gets about 2 to 3 mpg less on average than straight 93 does). The st twins are very fun cars especially the fiesta and the rs is a good car too. The svt focus was a great car back in the day too. The srt4 neon and the cobalt ss both are fun cars lots of bang for the buck. Americans can make cool 4 bangers too man don't believe the "it's gotta be foreign made to be good if it's a 4 cylinder of 6 cylinder" line of crap lol. 110k miles been tuned since 2800 miles, e30 since 40k and my current fbo x37 hybrid turbo e30 tuned setup since 50k. Still on original clutch too because I can actually drive. Very reliable car I'd drive across the country in it without batting an eye. The 1.6 eb can do up to 400 or so rwhp on stock bottom end. That is stout for a 1.6. In a 2600 lbs car that will haul ass. My 280 is quick enough to keep up decent with stockish to light modded 5.0s on take off and in the twisties it could easily hang with 5.0s. They're super fun. If you've never driven a nicely modded one with at least upper 200s to the wheels on power you really should. You would be shocked how fun it is.

[@Kev27RS]

@@midnight347 Hey, don't get me wrong, a "European" Ford like a Focus, Fiesta, Escort, Sierra, etc. are cool as well!

[@therencethomsen01]

For youngsters.. it makes sense. Let’s talk about having your first sports car, this car just makes sense. It’s a turboed 4 cylinder engine. There leg room for some modification but not very much, since the block itself can only hold anything 500HP or less it creates a safety and opportunity for youngsters to be able to learn what it’s like to handle a RWD, how to be self aware of not only your driving but your surroundings as well. Apart from that mustangs have a very appealing and amazing body style anything 2015+ in my opinion so this car in and of itself is perfect for anyone beginning to try buying a sports car, then once you feel you’re ready you’d be more prepped for the GT version. Like let’s be real, a sorts car that a fraction in price with car value and insurance it’s actually a really good option, you get 3/4 the power you’d find in a gt for a very reasonable price that no one can argue.

[@robbymassey2099]

I enjoyed my EBM for what I built it for. Definitely turned heads, handled amazing, did pretty well in the snow with chains, and just a really good starting point for modern I4 Turbos. Aftermarket support was insane, potential was crazy, just needed better engineering for a few things. V8's are cool and all, but my honest opinion, they get boring, unless it's a old resto mod, or some bad ass swap (VW Bug w/ LS). I don't hate V8's, I just don't see much originality in them today, like tuner cars.

[@nitroxide17]

It's a Ford Silvia basically... Pretty cool I think. Turbo cars have a lot of tunability which is awesome.

[@jjlegend3922]

I don't think the 2.3L is bad, its just the fact that the 5L Coyote has gotten SO GOOD over the years, it makes it hard to commit to the 2.3.

[@midnight347]

The 2.3 costs 10+k dollars less than a 5.0 equal trim. That is significant.

[@AaronRobinProductions]

I agree. Now that the 5.0s have been out for some time. There's plenty available for reasonable prices.

[@timwilliams9865]

I have a track pack numbered chassis hypo four-cylinder with the 10 speed love it 3.55 gears to adjust that 10 speed more! She does everything I need her to do very aggressive I will be doing upgrades to it but nothing crazy I love what she does and I’m getting almost 26 miles to the gallon with it. Absolutely love the balance

[@marioeid930]

I always saw the eco boost as a more affordable good handling sports car. It wasn't meant to be a straight line car

[@iandavis8755]

David, you got it right man. As you pointed out, Ford made versions of the Mustang to appeal to a broader audience, and that was smart for people that wanted one, but the price (and the insurance premiums) of the V8 ones was out of reach. The EcoBoost Mustang can be turned into a corner carver, and people forget that that 2.3L makes more power than the 2005-2009 Mustang GT did (I had a manual 05 GT Premium myself back in the day). I think they are a cool ride, regardless, and also as you mentioned, the tuner market for them is huge. Thanks for sharing some well-informed content as always!

[@ice44567]

My only issue with the Ecoboost in these cars is the open deck block. Heard lots of stories and even have some personal friends who have had head gasket failure. Stock or tuned, doesn't matter.

[@TheSockmunky]

You're correct. I have a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost and had to have a head gasket replacement at 18,000 miles. Thankfully my warranty covered it, but now I'm seriously considering trading it.

[@marktate2683]

Seen her get this car finished up the past year. Came out fantastic.

[@blythardsmith8015]

I thought I would never own an Ecoboost, but I now I have had my 2018 model with the six speed since March... It's been nothing but a good time. It looks awesome, especially with the blue and the 19in wheels from factory, and it's got enough power to keep up with my friends on drives. I take it everywhere, and everyone I've taken with me in it has loved coming along for the ride.

[@N3wbMa5t3r]

I had a 2021 Ecoboost mustang as a rental car when I was rear-ended... It was a blast to drive.

[@FlightX101]

yea if you like low down torque its a good amount of fun. And its lighter than the GT

[@anthonyclaxton2930]

I feel like the Ecoboost Mustang (along with the 4cyl turbo Camaro) is a great budget option, however, nobody is going to really be intimidated or look twice when they hear a Mustang ST. It breaks from a lot of the tradition/heritage of what the car was meant to be.

[@deadsouthspartan1443]

My very first sports car is the 2019 Mustang eco, I love it, perfect daily driver for college and fun shenanigans on the weekends ❤

[@vonte88]

I like the Ecoboost but that V8 sounds amazing 😍

[@Kev27RS]

A Mustang without a V8 isn't really a Mustang...

[@doha5634]

@@Kev27RS Preach!

[@Kev27RS]

@@doha5634 😁👍

[@max_rove]

@@Kev27RS That makes no sense because the 4 cylinder ecoboost makes more horspower and torque than a 2005-2009 GT...

[@Kev27RS]

@@max_rove It doesn’t matter how good the 4 and 6 cylinder versions perform… A Mustang without a V8 is a turn-off! Always has been. The same for other US American sports cars! The V8 is part of 🇺🇸 car culture! 😉

[@iamatlantis1]

drove one as a rental back in 2018. one of the best times i've had on a long distance road trip carving up through Utah/Nevada/California. Also the most gas and most time with the accelerator completely floored i've spent. One weird thing that I hadn't experienced was the, i guess not adaptive cruise, but whatever its called when you get behind a semi and the car practically slams on the brakes and exits cruise control. It did that multiple times through out the trip when I was accelerating for or in the process of passing a semi. Some sort of intended safety feature that was in its earlier stages I think. it made for less safe experiences when it would kick in randomly while passing a semi though. edit: dont even think about trying to sleep in one of those things. the back seat is so close to the front seats that you can recline about 10 degrees. 7:17 you can kind of see what im saying there, it appears that just to get the seat in to his desired driving position its practically touching the rear seat already.

[@geovannymoya9474]

Dude honestly I remember just graduating high school when the eco boost came out. I thought "No way, thats not a real mustang!". Honestly though, now that I'm older I appreciate the eco boost mustangs more now. The way I see it, to each his/her own

[@XFSAngelOfDeath]

I had an ecoboost Mustang and I absolutely loved it.

[@RiskyBiscuit]

Lets not forget that the 2.3L turbo thats in the Ecoboost was made at the same factory as the 2.3L turbo thats in the Mazdaspeed 3/6. The 2.3L DISI was definitely this engine's lineage.

[@mudshotit]

i love the ecoboost. its the perfect daily driver. however i would like the gt, but the ecoboost shouldn’t be getting the hate it gets

[@midnight347]

It's a good daily if you don't mind a 2 door sports car for a daily. I prefer my 16 fiesta st, fbo x37 turbo it is 2600 lbs does 280 hp and torque to the wheels. It's quick enough to keep up with stockish 5.0s and it handles like it's on rails and I average 22-26 mpg and I'm not shy with the throttle at all plus I'm on e30 which uses about 2-3mpg more on average vs straight 93 so for my power level and fuel and the fact I love to play around in it getting on the throttle alot listening to it I feel that is very good. I paid 21k for it brand new with 1200 bucks in options and I have about 4k into it mod wise far as hp mods. It's pretty good bang for the buck and the fun factor is off the charts. The ecoboost 1.6 is one of the best eb they make reliability wise. And the size of the fiesta st allows you to fit it easier into more places and the small doors make getting out next to other cars a breeze. I always say it's the perfect daily for a gearhead. It has decent room to be as small of a car as it is. If you need something larger the focus st makes a good choice for similar money. A loaded focus st will go for more. All the ecoboost engines are cool. Much better and more potential than the crappy base engines we used to get in cars not that long ago.

[@StreetMade111]

I have a 2020 Mustang Ecoboost Velocity Blue, and it is a absolute blast to drive. It may not be the craziest car on the road but it sure is fun to drive. Stock for Stock, I have pulled on a lot of other 2.0T cars, I DUST Mopar v6's and I can keep up with any RT up till about top of 3rd gear.. I drove a Mustang GT and my Ecoboost back to back, and to be completely honest MY Ecoboost felt like it had way more guts from 1500-4000 rpms. Even taking turns felt more fun and less heavy, the 5.0 shines alllll the way up top of the rev range after 4000-5000rpms thats when you really feel the power difference. I still will be upgrading to the coyote eventually, however I have a RWD focus RS if you will and I spent less than a RS and a 5.0 brand new. I can even tune it an expect 400-500tq and 350-400hp numbers depending on the tuner with FBO. Or, 350hp n 420lb-ft tq with stage 1. Thats pretty impressive, you can say I am very happy with my Ecoboost.

[@cinemastic6872]

I absolutely love my ecoboost, but i’m trading it for a truck sometime this week. What i’ve learned is that the value on it drops monthly and it depreciates faster than i can pay it off, so now i’m carrying over negative equity. Will be worth it to get into a vehicle that won’t depreciate near as badly

[@MagicalMarioBros]

Really? My friend has a 19 ecoboost he bought for $28k in April 2021 and has gotten $26k offers for trade in for a different car, so the PP value would be like $28k still

[@cinemastic6872]

@@MagicalMarioBros Seems like the performance pack and the premium with the leather heated and cooled seats are the only ones holding value. Mine stickered for $32k, black book on it is $26,800-27,500 clean trade. Doesn’t sound like a major loss, but if you add another 5-10k miles to it, the value goes down another grand

[@kirsatta]

That's the car market now. Everything bought 10 months ago is with 5-10k less.

[@cinemastic6872]

@@kirsatta Very much so, I sell vehicles so I experience first hand how messed up the market has been recently. It was great was interest was low and trade values were high, now it’s an even bigger mess

[@SVTZ-pq1hf]

Seems like you bought it at the wrong time . April 2020 got a 2015 mt82 premium with 15 k miles for 18k .

[@CarbonRacer525]

I didn’t know about the EB’s until like 2018 for the mustangs atleast, and my parents got a 2020 ranger in 2020 and that’s when I fell in love with Ecoboosts.

[@jd3330]

I just think that it is such a heavy package for what it is offering especially on what is out there now like the Veloster N at 3,000 lbs. A friend of mine has a full bolt-on/E85 Veloster that makes 340hp. For the same cost, you get such a better overall package. If you could get one closer to $20,000, maybe yes. At the end of the day, to each their own. I liked that the American companies made these entry level cars which allows everyone to get into the hobby without the high hp responsibility and cheaper too. I got my 5.0 brand new for $28,000 in 2019 and I never looked back.

[@ELGuaspo]

You meant to say $38,000 right? MSRP for a base GT in 2019 was 36k

[@OllamhDrab]

There is that equation like, 'This may as well be a BRZ for what it's trying to do,' :)

[@jd3330]

@@ELGuaspo nah my G, I got my base model 6-spd 5.0 for TWENTY-EIGHT in november of 2019 with 5 miles on the dash. Couldn't passed it up lol. The 2020s were rolling in and the dealer had such a great deal.

[@jd3330]

@@ELGuaspo I was eye-ing the new Veloster N at the time as well as a WRX STi (used), MX-5 Miata, Honda Civic Si but I will never say no to the sound of American muscle especially at the price point that I got it for.

[@hatch450sx3]

@@jd3330 fair warning stay away from sti unless you are building the motor. I blew up 2 motors on stock tune. Sold baught a 19 Camaro SS had 3 years now not a single problem.

[@kaviewin9190]

Mustang ecoboost owner here: the first time I ever even knew about the ecoboost, my neighbor up the street had one. 17’ 6 speed auto, grabber blue, FBO minus turbo. Made 430whp 510wtq on 93 + methanol. It was so throaty with the MBRP race catback (I have one as well) and would pull so hard from a dig. Easily hit 170mph on stock rear gears, even around a corner (don’t ask), and that’s what made me want one. Fast forward, I have my own, a 17’ auto. Stock they’re not all that fast, but a protune on a COBB Accessport from PDTuning or tuneplusinc wakes these cars up. I have a catback, street intercooler, catch can, baffle plate, drop in filter, and can still hit 35mpg at highway speeds (stock tune). People under estimate the capabilities of these motors. They can make 400whp reliably. The least amount of mods to max out internals require, aftermarket high flow cat down pipe, drop in dry flow filter, wastegate, street intercooler with charge pipes, and a precision nx2 turbo with an e30 tune….crazy right?!?! Bottom line, I love my car, it turns heads, nods of approval from mustang, camaro, corvette owners alike. Amazing cars when done right.

[@axelito2124]

Fiancé and I love our ecostang ! 300hp plus car , beats almost having it paid off. 60k miles and only issue we had was a battery replacement, evap sensor replacement. Way more reliable than my old g35 coupe drift car :/

[@holyarmageddon19]

Kids will shit on you, but adults will say it was a well rounded car

[@grimm_gen]

I've had my ecoboost mustang for 4 years now and have done pretty much everything I could do to it power wise without opening up the engine. It's is a great package, good power, good fuel. Yeah We can argue that "it is not the true spirit of the mustang", I drive my father-in-law's 2014 GT500 and of course there is a difference. But to me, mustangs are more than just what's under the hood. Mustangs are unique to unique to everyone. Mustangs are a way for us to express ourselves. Some people drag them, some people track them, some people drift them. No matter what's under the hood, it is still a mustang. And to me, the S550 chassis is one of the best modern chassis ever made.

[@LilScotty10]

Growing up liking cars but not really knowing much about them I kinda shitted on stangs….but slowly growing up (I’m only in my 20s lol) I started to absolutely love them! Really started messing with cars throughout hs and that’s when the new coyote engine came….and that was it hahaha I’m really in love with these and the looks have been probably the biggest thing that’s changed in the past 10 years. Now I love their body styles

[@yung.letuce]

Same when I was a little bit younger I was obsessed with numbers, shitting on 2V and 3Vs etc and now it’s like I hear people talk and I’m like bro do you even how fast 300HP actually is ??? Even less HP so many factors into a fast/quick car My heart to an extent still says mustangs are meh but my brain is like these cars are the epitome of a true sports car/muscle car to mod with not a lot of money and now I also find myself loving every body style (except the II lol)

[@19chucki74]

Even I harped on a turbo four in the Mustang when the S550 chassis came out, but recalling the original from the Mustang SVO and the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe made me realize that as much as I like the body style, some people are not up for having a Coyote V8 and it's thunderous rumble. I'd like to get a CJ5E with a 10 speed auto, and build a nice car around it, from the ground up. Plenty of power and low end torque. One of Ford's best market moves.

[@matthewsinclair507]

I have my motorcycles if I want to get to jail speeds, I have my Ecoboost tuned with FBO, lowered, with some sticky tires and it's the perfect daily. Honestly, you can't beat it on the used market especially (at least when I got mine a few years ago).

[@SatBchMagicer]

Recently acquired a 2020 EcoBoost HPP version, after 6+ years driving a (used) 2014 Mustang V6. Will admit, back in 2015 when 4-cyl EcoBoost 1st became available, I had my real doubts. BUT Ford has advanced the 2.3 Turbo WAY beyond my expectations (especially with V6 option now long gone). Mustangs with V8s (of late 400hp+, and climbing) WAY exceed what I want as MAINLY a daily driver. That said, my 2020 Turbo HPP, is a MUCH better overall vehicle than my 2014 V6 and EASILY outperforms it, both acceleration AND handling wise + better overall fuel economy.

[@Fusionawdecoboost2016]

Well they did put a turbo 4cyl in the mustang in the 80s-90s.

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

SVO👍

[@KarzKreated]

I bought a HPP ecoboost and have absolutely no regrets. On the lot next to the Mustang I bought was a bottom of the barrel, base Mustang GT for about 3k more. To me, the Coyote wasn't worth an extra 3k over the HPP ecoboost. The HPP has far superior suspension and brakes over a base GT, and my car has the full touch screen sync infotainment system where as the GT didn't. With a few intake mods and a JMS BoostMAX, the car is powerful enough to be fun and is probably not far off from being as fast as a stock GT. In my case, the HPP EB was a superior value over the GT.

[@kamata93]

Imagine if it has 2.5T Volvo engine instead of the newer Ecoboost 2.3.

[@petey2crazy]

Or the Barra straight 6

[@pete_bruschi_racing]

I autocross and track my Ecoboost Mustang all over the country. Been the perfect car for me to start my racing career. In 4 years I've driven 90,000 miles, over 150 race days (That's an average of 1 in 10 days my car has been run on a closed course). The S550 is an awesome chassis no matter what engine is in it, but at autocross, the Ecoboost really shines. Gotten a couple local championships and FTD's. It's always funny when people realize it's NOT a V8. I've had numerous GT and Shelby guys have come up and asked how I get it to rotate so well. Less weight on the nose helps, but the most important part of the car is the nut holding the steering wheel! Seat time and lots of experience. Car has been incredibly reliable. I've heard lots of EcoBoom stories and I can't believe I haven't had troubles. I'm starting to think most of issues are caused by people that don't have basic mechanical sympathy for their cars. Let the engine warm up completely before you flog it. Let it idle and cool off when you've been beating on it. Don't lug the engine, build boost down in the low RPM's, perfect recipe for Low Speed Pre-Ignition and windowing the block. Early preventative maintenance with top quality consumables. Take care of the car, and it will take care of you.

[@jaydenray2803]

I would take an ecoboost over the v6 any day.

[@DOHCCordia]

More likely to blow up. Lower revving. Don't handle as much power. Sounds like a solid choice.

[@rickitysplitz7035]

@@DOHCCordia Agreed.

[@rickitysplitz7035]

The V6 is more reliable and has more potential.

[@OrionInception]

Well Ecoboost is a cheaper option for those who can't afford the GT. I'm glad there are choices. I'm good with either.

[@kacperbenio5235]

From european perspective this is a very good choice. It's still a Mustang. You save on taxes, gas and insurance with a lower displacement. What's there not to like about it. V8s make very little sense here

[@Crowd_killer_7]

I have an ecoboost mustang (intercooler, tune E30, springs, wheels/ tires and exhaust 400whp 426wtq ) and I wanna say it’s more enjoyable on track. With the car being a bit more lightweight and the torque delivery hits different from an N/A v8.

[@Dynoids]

As an ecoboost owner I really want a GT, and will get one eventually. But I struggle to get over not having the light nose anymore. The car is light and the nose is really light (compared to the GT) and my car has always been focused on cornering over straight line. I just hope I can get the same with the GT. The EcoBoost does NOT deserve the hate it gets.

[@KeairaKusanagi]

You can really feel the weight difference in the nose. And that Coyote motor really feels like it was shoehorned in there by comparison. But the V8 rumble will put a smile on your face and it takes the twistys pretty well. Oil changes though... that Coyote takes 10 quarts of oil. That was something I didnt realize, so oil changes can be expensive.

[@midnight347]

The sound it makes and the power they have and the power potential will more than make up for a little more weight on the nose. Matter of fact people really overexxagerate how much difference that makes on a typical street car. Does it make a difference sure it does I'm not claiming otherwise but it's not gonna make the car suddenly crappy handling or something because of a little more weight on the nose. They revise the suspension to account for it somewhat so it's not gonna be a huge huge difference. What will be a huge difference is the power stock for stock and mod for mod. The potential is just so far ahead its not even funny. More than worth having a little more weight on the nose.

[@Dynoids]

@@midnight347 I agree it is much more worth it, just practically the price difference is quite a lot. Didnt think so until I got older and became the owner of my ecoboost instead of my dad (graduation gift for when I left home). Now that I pay for stuff ive realized how much of a difference the GT makes in both your loan amount, downpayment, taxes, everything. Just qualifying. This is the main reason I really never wanted to hate on the ecoboost aside from owning one myself. My goal is to mod it properly to feel even better than the ecoboost. Just waiting on graduating college to save up enough to do so.

[@shamroc514]

Ecoboost stangs have the potential to be cemented in history. i4, manual, RWD. What do we typically look for in an entry level drift car? I4, manual, rwd and CHEAP. It checks all the boxes and if people realized the long term value of them being track toys - I think the hate would go away. Until then, I'm going to shop them and make one a drift car since 350s and E46s are getting scooped up aggressively.

[@AliceC993]

I always wished that Ford would create some sort of spiritual successor to the Mustang SVO. While I suppose you could argue the EcoBoost fills that niche now, out of the box it's nowhere near rivaling the performance of the Coyote.

[@ThatDudeinBlue]

The 3.5 V6 for sure.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

that's not really the 2.3 Ecoboost's fault. When the original SVO Mustang came out it offered more power than the 302 of the age was producing and was lighter. The 2.3 Ecoboost of today would absolutely trounce the 80's 302. The Coyote is simply a world class engine out classes the 2.3 in just about every way possible other than mpg's and weight.

[@AliceC993]

@@Steve-yr5vi I agree, and I understand that the SVO was definitely a product of its time when the 302 was heavily choked down because of emissions regulations and desperation to achieve CAFE ratings. I'm just saying, it would be neat to have seen a more modern equivalent to it, but without going to Mercedes-AMG level bonkers engineering I don't know that it would have been possible to achieve something that would compete with a Coyote out of the box.

[@TheAnonymous1one]

I think its cool that she worked with what she has and modded it tastefully.

[@colinw7205]

I think Ford definitely made the right decision to make the 2.3 Liter Ecoboost the base engine. This meant that all S550 Mustangs are legit performance car no matter what drivetrain option is chosen. Especially since you can get PP1 and PP2 performance packages in Ecoboost cars. It made both the bean counters and the gearheads at Ford equally happy. For the bean counters it has economy of scale since the Ecoboost is used in multitude of Ford vehicles from full size trucks to Focus hatchbacks(worldwide). For the gearheads it comes already with ton of aftermarket support way more than good but underappreciated Cyclone engines. If you are a young enthusiast, in your 20's, first time car buyer the you get a break on your insurance rates than the GT, you have way more usable room in Mustang than you would with the GT86/BRZ twins for roughly the same price and with a turbo upgrade and tune you would making GT350 hp and tq.

[@midnight347]

A cyclone is absolutely a legit performance engine and if you think otherwise you should do more research on them. They can do upwards of 600+ to the wheels with a turbo on e85 that definitely qualifies for being a legit platform especially for the money spent.

[@colinw7205]

@@midnight347 I definitely agree with you both Ford's and GM's answer to the ever present Nissan VQ engine the Cyclone and the LFX respectively both damn good engines and both don't get much love from the performance aftermarket. Hence why the Ecoboost gets my vote. Though recently the GM LFX is becoming a popular engine swap for the Mazda RX-8 to get rid of the unreliable Renesis Rotary engine.

[@MuddyTubMedia]

I think the ecoboost mustang is an awesome car. Especially for someone who wants a cool car but isn’t really a car person. For me, when a V8 is available, I have to have the V8. But a lot of people would be (and are) more than happy with a lower powered version of the mustang without the V8 sound.

[@lifeonadime4703]

It's a great engine and I always loved the svo 2.3. it was made to pay homage to the svo imo. Regardless, built bottom end, big turbo and fuel and 650 rwhp is absolutely attainable and power to weight over a cyclone or coyote either one will give you the edge. 10 speed is a must for the Ecoboost though tbh

[@Kev27RS]

The SVO might have had good performance but it having a 4 CYLINDER TURBO was a turn-off to be honest. It's just not appealing... Big V8 power is part of the American car culture! It's part of the appeal of an American sports car! If I want a 4 or 6 cylinder car, I'll get a German or Japanese car! 👍 The same goes for the BUICK GNX from the 80s. It had a V6 TURBO engine and good performance, it was really fast but... a V6 in an American sports car? No thanks! It also didn't last long in the market just like the SVO... *Emission regulations and oil crisis at that time were all part of the reason why those models got created to begin with...* American car manufacturers like Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford also didn't use 4 and 6 cylinder engines for their *most powerful* models, even in the following years and even decades! They always used *V8 engines* as they should! 4 and 6 cylinder versions exist, especially nowadays for a reason... but no one really cares about them! 👉 Go overseas and ask people what comes to their mind when they hear "American muscle car" or even "American sports car": *Big V8 Power* is one of the thoughts!

[@senorpepper3405]

I had an ecoboost with the 10 speed. I liked it.

[@DOHCCordia]

Except you can hit 650whp on a stock sealed cyclone. And the weight difference between the 3.7 and 2.3 negligible. And you can still rev the cyclone out to 7000rpms while making that power.

[@lifeonadime4703]

I'd much rather have a 4cyl sound and power than any ev offering that's for sure. I'm a V8 man myself. The sound of a high compression big cammed V8 is almost better than sex (almost) but, I'll still give credit where it's due and the Ecoboost 4cyl is a good engine, as is the 3.7 v6. And I was talking about weight between the coyote and the Ecoboost. 100lbs is a tenth off the 1/4 (usually). I don't disagree with any of you. V8 is much better. But, I wouldn't mind a warmed up Ecoboost for a daily at all. They will all be electric in the next 10 years anyway and we won't be allowed to modify our cars anymore so it won't matter much

[@midnight347]

@@DOHCCordia cyclone is very underrated but 650 rwhp on stock bottom end is really pushing it. 600 or so on e85 is at the tippy top of what they can really do. 650 on that is like 1000 for a gen 2 and 3 coyote. It may do it for a bit but that isn't considered a "reliable" power level for a stock bottom end.

[@goldencoralll8252]

My uncle has a 2020 ecoboost. Great gas mileage and that 4 cyl is much heartier than the V6 before it!

[@ak2112]

I liked the 3.7 more when I drove them. Felt like it suited the Mustang better.

[@AaronRobinProductions]

It definitely did and modded 3.7s have so much potential.

[@silvertbird1]

It’s definitely not inferior when taking into consideration expectations and operating cost. I assumed I would get a V8 but bought a 2020 Ecoboost that was just too good a deal to pass. As a daily driver, it’s nice to have a little extra power, a beautifully styled car that doesn’t look like every other car on the road, and 30 MPG on road trips. True, the exhaust note is nothing like the GT, but mine has the active exhaust which helps a little. So far I have been pleased with it, and I call it my gentlepony because it is so well behaved.

[@MrMW95]

I absolutely love my 2020 Ecoboost, if I want to hear and feel a V8 I got my 5.0 Fox for that.

[@Black.Sail.Plumbing]

My tuned FBO Ecoboost absolutely SCOOTS. It is a great daily for my 140 mile commute daily and looks just as great as any mustang model. The different driving modes make it outstanding. Such a great and underated car

[@stealth.gr4]

Shecoboost is easily one of the best mustangs on IG, love this car

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

"we want a brz but like, turbo!" ecoboost mustang: am i a joke to you?

[@BMWE90HQ]

I had one as a rental car once. It was pretty good. When it came out I was kind of like wtf?

[@VsGrimm013]

As an owner of a '18 10spd Ecoboost, this thing is a blast to drive. I really don't understand the hate for the 4 cyl. Its economic, has a very good aftermarket and is a very good entry level to get into the V6-V8 trims.

[@rickitysplitz7035]

There is nothing economical about it. I can get 32 mpg in my 2013 GT to work on the Highway. lol

[@thatguy-ve6mb]

I love my 19 Ford Mustang ecoboost, tons of modifications, almost up to 400whp. Very satisfied 😌

[@fatimajawo484]

Really great I have a 16 with 2020 cleveland engine fbo currently getting tuned by pd tuning 93 pump gas and after that im doing e30 and nx2 drop in

[@thatguy-ve6mb]

@@fatimajawo484 is a nx2 upgrade worth it?

[@fatimajawo484]

@@thatguy-ve6mb only if you want to get 400 + hp to the wheel without ecoboom. The stock turbo is safe for about 375 to390 if you want reliability. But with e30 stock turbo fbo it is abosolutely fast n if you like to race it can hang with stock SS n GT pretty well which is awesome.

[@snowsurfer6487]

At first I hated the idea of a 4 cylinder in the new mustangs because I always wished my mustang was a v8. Now I own a 2022 bronco with the same 2.3l ecoboost and though it doesn't have the v8 grumble, I love the turbo noises and having a 7 speed manual to drive

[@Jdowling357]

It should've been brought back as the SVO. It would probably avoid much of the hate if it just had that badge on it... Also, instead of painting the dash panel mystichrome, I would've painted it (if at all) the same color the car is. That mystichrome throws everything off for me. Nice car either way.

[@midnight347]

The svo was a top trim mustang in its day they aren't gonna have an svo be the top trim mustang today so that doesn't make sense for the car today it's the base engine for mustang.

[@theUrbangh0st]

Im in the uk and have a 2016 ecobeast ,my first pony car and i love it to bits mines the manual box too , every one just loves mustangs and i just keep smiling in mine.

[@alpha2gproject783]

Honestly the 2.3 in the 550 isn't bad. The car overall isn't bad. The only thing that I didn't like about it was when I had to let my ex use my truck for a week to move and I drove her 2018. The hood shakes way too much and you're right...the torque is fantastic but I felt like Ford went the wrong direction with it. They wanted it to feel too much like a big displacement V8 where there's all the torque down low but nothing else anywhere else in the powerband. When I drive anything with a 4 banger I expect and honestly want the mid to high rpm power.

[@midnight347]

That is how every ecoboost engine in the lineup is. If you want it to have turbo lag and killer top end power just throw a big turbo on it that is easily done since it's factory turbo charged. Much easier and cheaper than throwing turbos in an na engine.

[@alpha2gproject783]

@@midnight347 I wasn't talking about all ecoboost engines. Just the 2.3.

[@Deetroiter]

The older model V8 Mustang owners were just big mad that a 4 cylinder had the same, or more, power than them and was blowing their doors off.

[@daily_driven]

The Ecoboost does get a lot of Hate but they can be fun for sure! Got mine running on E30 right now and the torque is great around town.

[@misterc9641]

My problem with them is that we already had the v6 model making the same kind of power without the need for boost. People sleep on the 3.7... it was a great engine. Reliable and lots of potential

[@deans_used_car_lot]

i enjoy my 2015 ecoboost. it makes around 420whp with simple bolt on, handles well and was cheap to get into compared to the 5.0. people hate them because theres a v8 option but if it was its own platform i feel like they would be well loved. not many turbo, manual, RWD options out there anymore

[@tmars6507]

420 to wheels with simple bolt ons???

[@deans_used_car_lot]

@@tmars6507 yep. basically bigger bolt on turbo, intercooler, downpipe and e30 tune is all you need

[@tmars6507]

@@deans_used_car_lot wow that's amazing. I own 2016 gt, still stock. Raced a buddy with a echoboost and he was quick in the quarter mile, I was able to catch and over take him eventually but was very surprised. He did something similar but not sure on the e30 tune, he could use that. I'll let him know!

[@rickitysplitz7035]

@@deans_used_car_lot Those Ecoboosts are nowhere near as reliable as a Honda inline, let alone an NA 5.0. They have a bad rep for burning oil and being generally shitty engines.

[@michaelterry85]

It isn't hated unless you don't like the most mpg of any gas powered car Ford has ever produced under the Mustang badging. It's 100% a true Mustang for anyone who says it's not then you don't own one or have never drove one. It handles, goes vroom, turns heads, uses the same lugs, frame less windows, and can still make you smile when you punch the pedal while still getting 28+ mpg running 93 octane.

[@motorcitydobbs347]

I have a pretty good experience with an EcoBoost actually I had gotten to an accident and my actually Focus SVT which is even more funny that I had to Focus SVT but the rental they gave me was an EcoBoost Mustang and I was so impressed with it for being such a big car like one of my favorite fox bodies is always been the SVO something about the way the headlights look plus I've had an xr4ti Muker I think in Germany there I can't remember what they call them it's in Germany they come with a twin cam 2-3 version intercool beautiful car super fast super fun but getting off track that EcoBoost is well worth the money if you can get one to do a little bit of work to it it's great I love them God good gas mileage and I beat Z28 for the week I had it I would be Z28 Camaros all day now I mean I do know how to drive and maybe the kids and Camaro didn't know how to drive but it was fun

[@motorcitydobbs347]

I forgot it's the Cause worth is what it's called and Germany and here it's the xr4ti and I've had two three of those now and it's one of my favorite cars because it's ugly but it's such a good platform I actually have a guy I know that swapped his two three out and put a turbo coyote in it made 6 or 700 to the wheel or something crazy and a Cosworth which was ridiculous

[@tannoy2427]

I damaged my Challenger and for a rental they gave me an Ecoboost convertible. I loved it so much I sold my challenger for an ecoboost convertible. Great day to day commuter!

[@wc.hebert2351]

I think EcoBoosts with the PP2 package are so dang good! I’m a V8 guy but I was really close to buying an ecoboost PP2