This Game Is A Disaster - No More Room In Hell 2 | Follow Up

[@IraDiaboIi]

so what youre saying is, IGN would give it a 7/10?

[@TheDeeman25]

good thing they only review finished products and not EA titles☺

[@vendedordepicole5924]

7/10 too much zombies

[@firezollablue]

You know it's bad when Steam refunds you even if you've played more than 2 hours, the funny thing is that I was able to refund the game

[@TheRealClaylex]

DUDE, same I played for 3.6 hours and they gave me money back after I requested a refund

[@TheDeeman25]

most EA titles do that bud

[@Turamwdd]

​@@TheDeeman25They actually don't. Even EA titles have the 2-hr rule.

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

@@TheDeeman25imagine trying to funny and you comment pure nonsense

[@TheDeeman25]

@@Turamwdd Considering I and others in the main discord have refunded the game after 4 hours and have done so for several EA games, thats not the case.

[@Seplios]

No More Copium In Hell

[@brockglock3035]

B-but its early access!!1!!1

[@AcenoxiRiley]

Copium🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DRGEngineer]

all of the crybabies in the live stream were cracking me up

[@Nym33ria]

No more room for good reviews

[@louiskitching8806]

rofl

[@RichardRMM]

This is Torn Banner, of course they are not gonna fix these issues. And if they do, wait 7-8 months, or an entire year.

[@gorway6807]

I think they'll fix it, but it will take 4-5 years and end up on Gamepass by then

[@romanbellic9580]

Also expect some of the stuff on the roadmap to never release.

[@SneedRemembrancer]

@@romanbellic9580 starship troopers extermination moment

[@thomasbaum-j3p]

really? how you know? and can i get my money back

[@RichardRMM]

@@thomasbaum-j3p Because of how they treated Chivalry 2 in its initial builds.

[@kyuirah]

Zombie survival community has been getting screwed for over a decade now. They're so hungry for a left 4 dead 3 / DayZ 2. But AAA doesnt bother cause its hard to sell microtransactions in a survival game.

[@charlespancamo9771]

how about an actual no more room in hell game? You realize that game was the antithesis of l4d mainstream crap.

[@Tzalmavet]

@@charlespancamo9771 You realize this was supposedly the answer to that and it's an utter mess upon release because of the same piss poor decision making that has plagued the genre for years? What he said is true, how can nobody get this genre right over a decade later?

[@damian_fam0226]

One day. One day it'll exist. A good zombie game.

[@charlespancamo9771]

@@damian_fam0226 all they need to do is take Urban Dead (yes, the text game) take out the turns/time limit and make it FPS or even isometric but action based NOT point and click. BOOM. Greatest zombie game of all time and the one we always wanted.

[@JaCKal_646f67]

RIP, im staying on NMRIH1 edit: also there are no zombie kids to curb stomp

[@Nym33ria]

See you there fellow survivior, they added a new map which is super fun.

[@MichaMundy]

​​@@Nym33ria yeah, shoreline is cabin x lakeside on crack. Maze like structure like cabin inside big condo and the setting of well shoreline/waterside. Unfortunately there is still some jank such as zombie spawning right infront of you but other than that it's a nice map

[@SourceEngineEnjoyer]

@@Nym33ria new map is soo good

[@beertlont776]

What is the name of the new map?

[@MichaMundy]

@@beertlont776 shoreline

[@Hockeyplayer10HD]

All the other KZbinrs must’ve got paid a bag to lie about the state of the game

[@RichardRMM]

It's because they were paid by TB.

[@rhythm6161]

Not a good look for them lets be real here

[@DarkHunterer]

Influencers will do that often. Not really surprised people fall for that bait.

[@SurvivalGames1]

its more obvious than ever before , Ubisoft invited youtubers to disney land to show them Star Wars Outlaws , look at IGN Ratings

[@Shou_Fang]

Seems like they blew their entire load on marketing and now they can’t afford to fix their servers.

[@Alucah]

Look up footage of the 2021 build, it truly looked like an actual sequel to the first game, with features and mechanics from the first one too, this one is just generic trend chasing slop.

[@NatoRadeX]

That version was scrapped in 2022 when they partnered up with Tornbanner..

[@LittleFlame23]

I regret being excited for this since I was in middle school

[@DeltaFH]

To be fair the game was very different back then. Luckily NMRiH 1 still exists

[@IraDiaboIi]

get back to work nerd!

[@LittleFlame23]

@@DeltaFH For some context I was a fan of the first game since before it was on steam & am editorman so watched over the first vid and edited this one so I'm unfortunately very aware of how much of a tragedy the "sequel" is I really wished it'd be good but with most games over a decade long dev cycle you can kinda see the writing on the wall. Sincerely hoping they fix this up so everyone can get their money's worth & the devs can fulfill their original vision though

[@LittleFlame23]

@@IraDiaboIi I will tomorrow :>

[@quarreneverett4767]

​@@LittleFlame23very cool :) heard they started over when getting bought out and what you see gere is 2 years of work notnsure if its true ir anything but i heard that

[@Your_Host_Cletus]

No Patrick Bateman = no purchase

[@michaelmartin2763]

This is exactly why i dont get hyped for games anymore.

[@sdgamer1860]

The reason why i stopped pre ordering games even though the games are from game studios i trust

[@DeltaFH]

Thank you for not going the toxic positivity route. I was hyped for this game since it was first announced while playing NMRiH and followed development. I was always concerned that they were engaging in scope creep in the early days, making the maps a little too big and trying to do too much new stuff. I think that's what ultimately led to it being in development for so long alongside the fact that moving from a mod to your own game requires you creating even the most basic stuff from scratch. I wish they just tried to launch something close to NMRiH 1 with less content, but the promise of continued content going forward. It was really the perfect formula. Small memorable detailed maps with a lot of replayability and unique semi-dynamic objectives. I understand why they had to go to a publisher to bail them out, as I imagine there was a real chance of it dying before release. But, Torn Banner really tore the guts and soul out of the game. Even earlier gameplay from the past looked significantly better, except arguably the graphics. Though, I imagine myself and many other NMRiH fans cared little about that or ranked it rather low. Honestly, its a tragic tale of project scope creep, then selling out to get much needed funds only to die on arrival anyway. Thanks for coming to my TED talk

[@D.O.CanMusic]

Well they have potential to add stuff and content, under the term of the idea is a good idea, it’s like a war zone without enemies player with objective to do and stuff to take but I think the must add something more, just to give you a sense of progression if you survive with your character

[@DroNNIOfficial]

​​@@D.O.CanMusic Copium.

[@D.O.CanMusic]

@@DroNNIOfficial incollum

[@The_Courier1998]

​@@D.O.CanMusiccopium

[@D.O.CanMusic]

@ incollum

[@PitBullPlaysGames]

imagine waiting 10 years for a follow up on NMRiH and you get this....what a waste. ill check back on it in about 6 months to a year to see if anythings changed

[@NatoRadeX]

We would have had a good sequel if they didnt allow Tornbanner to buy the rights to the game... This game we're playing now is 2 years old not 8.

[@quarreneverett4767]

​@@NatoRadeXinteresting

[@charlespancamo9771]

I don't need to imagine. I lived it. I was livid every time they pushed back release after all the teasing and promises. Now this?

[@spacelizard5001]

i waited like 8 years for this game, and its bad? that sucks...

[@TheBullyDisciple]

Welcome to gaming in 2024

[@paulssss5463]

the game itself isn't bad. its just a buggy broken mess

[@sill6447]

game js got released pretty sure devs r js waiting for these type of feedbacks to make it better i guess?

[@DreamyNightz]

First time?

[@XenonPrimeSBSV]

​@@paulssss5463Dude, a buggy and unplayable game IS a bad game. Cyberpunk 2077 on release was a bad game for a lot of folks, it's amazing now but a game being good isn't an inherent quality of a game, it's something earned. So long as people are disappointed, it's a bad game.

[@Fezezen]

The whole "Bro it's in early access still!" thing is what I heard from Back 4 Blood fans over and over throughout the closed alpha testing, closed beta and open beta testing. I participated in the closed beta and open beta, and both times I thought the game was complete garbage, even though I really wanted it to be a good Left 4 Dead successor. Every time I brought up my complaints about the game with others in discord servers such as the Left 4 Dead Nation server, I'd get people saying "It's still in beta!", even though the open beta was like a month from release and the game was still absolute crap. It felt like I wasn't being heard, even by the devs who spent time in the L4D nation server replying to complaints just to hit us with the "But it's in beta" shit, then "they'll patch it" when the game released. It's a really bad excuse. For bigger profile indie games, and definitely AAA games like Turtle Rock, releasing dog poop and then saying "it's early access" is a very bad decision. First impressions really are everything when it comes to games. This feels like a repeat of that. I got really excited when NMRIH2 was announced, and then my perception was completely destroyed when the first couple trailers came out with things that totally changed the formula of the game for the worse. It might as well be a different game franchise, because they decided to throw out the things that at least I deem to be the identity of NMRIH.

[@BasedGamlng]

Even guts and blackpowder is way better than zobie games under "early access"

[@firefalcon4920]

@@BasedGamlng its severely underrated

[@A-Rather-Dubious-Character]

The things these shitty devs do is what has made me irrationally pessimistic about game development as a whole. I have no sympathy for these Devs. It seems we've somehow lost the technology to make decent video games!

[@troua2001]

Just curious. What were the complaints u had in b4b?

[@Fezezen]

@@troua2001 I think the card system was very unnecessary and overly complicated. Having characters that have different abilities defeated the original design of l4d where every character was functionally the same, so that no player was more important than the other. There were far too many infected types, and the trauma system was very stupid, requiring world-placed med stations for no reason. Collecting copper to buy items in safe rooms defeats the purpose of scavenging for weapons. The game looked very generic, having those typical MW 2019-esque animations, unlikeable characters, and crappy writing. The lackluster sound and music design too, instead of having memorable chimes for each infected type, and their own themes for pins, they all used the same music. The Ogre as an enemy is totally underwhelming because it's mostly just a scripted animation, rather than a genuine spur-of-the-moment boss fight like the Tank in l4d. Not to mention, the game was a buggy mess. I know people complained a lot about the versus mode in that game too, but I don't even like versus in l4d so I didn't touch it. Turtle Rock decided to do way too much, and didn't execute any of it well. Unlike Left 4 Dead which does very little in comparison, but does it extremely well.

[@blacknyellow962]

Outstanding that the state of modern gaming is so awful that buggy messes are crapped out and defended simply because they're "unfinished (EA)". With false promises of what's to come in the future with no definitive timeline other than some vague roadmaps. They, like many other games, promised so much for day 1 release and delivered on very little why should we believe them when they say "Trust us bros it WILL get better.. later."?

[@TheRealClaylex]

Yup Don't matter if its actual EA or a 60-70 title, if its crap you call it out for what it is

[@BuckBewENOfficial]

I hate this so much about modern gaming, and how no one seems to pay attention to this and let developers off because "its eArLy aCcEsS bRo"

[@cykauwu1870]

​@@BuckBewENOfficialThe worst part is people defending the game because it has "potential". No it doesn't, the value of a game resides in what you have now, no what the devs could add in the next update, and if we see history, the game is bad and will be bad.

[@jokuvaa2552]

No preorders! No buying early access! Bring back free demos and complete games.

[@Ch_ngedYT]

So many great games lately. I mean, first we had Redfall, then we were given Concord, and now this! Golden age of game development, for sure.

[@otkn1234]

The EA defenders are some kind of special for real.

[@TheRealClaylex]

Its cause imho they see AAA companies release 60-70 dollar games that feel like early access titles and think "Oh well it IS early access, surely we can be less harsh on it right?" No, NMRIH2 is barely playable I've had more fun playing Baldurs Gate 3 back in early access than this

[@EvilAnomaly]

That disease of "fandom" clouds their ability to use logic/facts over emotions and brand loyalty.

[@coucousmellysmelly]

I played another early access game like "Abiotic Factors" on day 1, it is so good until I forgot it is an EA game

[@TheRealClaylex]

@@coucousmellysmelly that was actually fun unlike this game

[@SneedRemembrancer]

@@EvilAnomalyit’s not even fandom here Nmrih fans are ripping into the game for not being nmrih in the slightest The toxic positivity group are just people who think they can cope a good zombie game into existence because we’ve gone soo long without a great one or really any sort of fps zombie game for a while. Same thing happened with the day after tomorrow That game was very obvious false advertising and asset flipping and still a few hundred thousand people fell for it and defended it until the very end where the non playable very different from what advertised game came out.

[@gametech4101]

What a s show this is. I forever hate Torn Banner for ruining what could have been a great game. Even without the bugs, they stripped everything that made NMRIH, well, NMRIH. Lever Games should have stuck to their own instead of selling out to a corporation who doesn't even care about the source material.

[@juanvilas5341]

"They only charge 30US$" Uh... for that? Early Access should be games that lack content but are stable enough to play with a minimum number of bugs. After all, you supposedly want to make a good impression, show more or less how the game is and see reviews to change certain things before releasing the final product. You can even put in an experimental mechanic and if it doesn't work, remove it. This "It's early access! Of course it has 300 quadrillion bugs and crashes every 1.5 miniseconds!" that just justifies laziness.

[@andrewnguyen6846]

Early access is just an excuse for devs to release a cash grab

[@IndraJayaGroup]

lots of dev doing that thing these days. i think because of the greatest succession of the king, i mean No... the goat of early access "the day before" lol

[@dfunited1]

The balls it takes to charge full price for a clearance-tagged straight-to-DVD experience.

[@Incog-e1z]

As the head of a small studio, I would like to do my best to ensure that I don’t let our next game come out in this horrendous state.

[@wolfy6815]

Oh? What game are you and your peers working on?

[@Incog-e1z]

@@wolfy6815 A first person shooter that mixes the combat of halo with doom into a dungeon crawler style.

[@dramaticmudderer5208]

I mean, the biggest issue with this game is that it isn't even a sequel at all compared to what we were told to get, and the changes after the partner took over were never explained Also, good luck on your game, do try to involve your community though as much as possible

[@Incog-e1z]

@@dramaticmudderer5208 That is the hope. Community is the most important part of a game.

[@MinLee2]

Yeah, being misled is the worst. I'm glad you're being critical with a hint of optimism. I was following this game closely, but what a disappointing launch. It's actually almost criminal. Subbing cause we need more critical (and fair) opinions about gaming.

[@MinLee2]

Just got to the explosives part of your video. It should be so satisfying throwing a 'nade into a swarm, but it's such a dud!

[@thatboywags]

Predz woke up today and chose Chaos.. And I'm all for it.

[@EvilAnomaly]

Yeah, no way it's $30....it should've been $20 at best for the current bare bone state its in. $30 once they get some major updates cemented.

[@tslater2005]

10-15 would have been fair for the first two weeks..

[@slyr0980]

That's what Hakita did with Ultrakill. When it first released it was about 15 bucks, then after a couple major updates he upped the price and warned the players about it 2 weeks prior and gave it a big discount. Probs the most fair thing a dev has done that I've seen in a long time

[@facu5230]

here in south america we have it for 18 dollars, but i ain't buying this shit, even if it was 10$

[@EvilAnomaly]

@@facu5230 after watching more of it I have to agree with you there. It's not even worthy of a purchase.

[@Awootistic]

The moment I knew that during your playthrough for the review, and the launch being only a few weeks being released, I immediately knew that it won't be fixed. Not all of them at least. It's like there's a consistent pattern throughout the game industry that keeps on happening. Such a mystery to be sure!

[@Eoniclipse]

You have every right to point these bugs out. People got too comfortable with letting this sort of thing slip by. If it's Bad, If it's Buggy... say it.. Devs need to step up. There's enough crap out there already

[@supermu39]

Ready or not started as early access game and it was the most polished and enjoyable early access game I’ve ever played, it set a standard of what early access game should be. This game is an embarrassment to early access games, we waited 11 years for a sequel to be in this state. What a sick joke.

[@NatoRadeX]

You also get to shoot kids in Ready or Not as well. Meanwhile we dont get to curb stomp children in NMRiH2. Sad times we live in.

[@iamjogun]

LOL the classic, "its beta" "its EA" lines never cease to be funny.

[@Arleneim]

Copium addiction is ruining the game industry.

[@alreadyoutofthisworld3387]

I genuinely wonder what went wrong internally. The development hell must have been crazy

[@gametech4101]

At the end of 2022, there was an article mentioning that they teamed up with a "partner" to help them develop the game. They kept everything about that partner a secret until it was finally revealed somewhere in 2023 that it was Torn Banner. Everything went to s from there.

[@EvilAnomaly]

Suits pushing minimal effort/cost for a big $$$ return...no time for passion, time, and creativity.

[@PeninsulaCity2024]

From what I heard, the NMRIH 2 we were hyped about (which was apparently done) was scrapped and the project rebooted to what we see now.

[@NatoRadeX]

@@PeninsulaCity2024 Exactly this.. It was ready for release in 2022 in October but then they made they partnership article and now we got this mess. The UE4 version was scrapped for this trash.

[@FireFighter1984]

I remember that too​@@gametech4101

[@camsoup101]

As a fan of the indie zombie game genre since 2013, I can say I am genuinely not surprised that I praise your honesty.This is a tale as old as time. Well, at least as old as the internet. They'll either be lost in obscurity or pull their shit together and get a dedicated fan base the next year.

[@brandonmccann15]

My bet sadly will be the first one couple of months max

[@DroNNIOfficial]

​​​@@brandonmccann15 Sadly? 😁

[@CommandoKGB]

You should get all the credit for talking negative things about this game before it's release. And others content creators should be ashamed, you did good.

[@pettz96]

Even with cookie cutter game engine like UE, they still managed to f*ed it up. Indie dev nowadays can't create playable product on day 1. SMH

[@digitalempire2982]

Ever since Palworld came out in early access, they've kinda set the bar in my opinion for what people should consider an early access game to be. Cause when it first came out, there was enough to be a game on its own. Thats what an early access should be, a game that has enough to be a finished product in its own right, and everything they intend to add before the DEVS consider it to be finished, is just a bonus.

[@ReinEngel]

**starts crowning a turd** Devs: "Hurry! Pay us before it drops!"

[@whointhewho]

day zero patch is not real

[@pipravich4730]

Thing need to do -Fix bugS -More random loot spawn -more random objective -less ammo -after less ammo make gun more potent -more melee -make things more casual and slower pace Additionally -add kids zombie to curb stomp -add patrick bateman

[@kivich7888]

I totally agree with everything, the game is just so raw Gordon Ramsay would have a heart attack. And according to pre purchase by Torn Banner and switched to UE5 it was more of a no more room in hell. Having virus check by checking your vines on the arm, walkie talkie and pad with objectives like in Contagion. I think at some point they just ran out of money after switching to UE5 and had to release it this raw at EA to get money. There's nothing in the game that reminds of NMRIH. Bandages that just heal you, not the bleeding (because there's no such function) but your general health, oh and the healthbar, yeah, Resident Evil-like stuff with pulse. No infection system, not even integrated with immersive interface, casualized ammunition into general types of "Pistol", "Smg" ammo. Which is surprising for the game having NMRIH title in it. I was on discord server as well, it's a total disappointment in people and perhaps some of the fans, being so trusting and blind is outright concerning. I'm a huge fan on source NMRIH, made cinematics and local RPs. This is just not it, at all, theres nothing of NMRIH in the game, hell its not even a game its a github repository. I don't want to play a game when i have kids after 4 or 5 years, well, if they even manage to push out any other map. As for other functions like "K" key to win and smaller zombies... I think they're just afraid of putting that into a game, and never will.

[@blob643]

It doesn't matter if it's beta, alpha or early access, if it's asking me to pay money upfront I will be expecting quality assurance here

[@TheCptnOfFail]

I have played too many early access games at this point and have been burned way too many times. If there is a new game that I have the slightest bit of interest in I ask other people the question "Would you say it has a lot of potential?" If it has potential to be something good I shall wait until it reaches that potential. This has saved me so much money. Of course this is not a perfect way of doing things, but I am so tired of hearing "This game has a ton of potential to be the next big thing!" Or something along those lines. It's even worse when the game it's compared to is also in early access, or was a free game, or a majorly flawed triple A series... Or sometimes all of these. As I am discovering more and more, I already own most of the best games. And they came out quite a while ago. Not to say new stuff can't be good, but good is getting harder to find.

[@joshybunny893]

Man I am embarrassed for them.

[@the_bagelrat7121]

5:43 Didn't know I was gonna catch a stray for still playing Payday 3 in a NMRiH2 follow up video damn...

[@eshannumin]

I love the no bs review here. Keep it up man. I really enjoy listening to my spirit bro review games lol.

[@nakladanycandat1128]

"I mean it is beta" argument works usually if there is time to fix and adress the issues. If company decided to release "beta" 1 month, 1 week prio to the release, nothing will be done. There is simply no time to fix and adress most of issues. Clearly NMRH2 struggled with development process.

[@thewerewolfgamer7226]

I crashed 3 times like 10 mins in each time. Zombie door bug where zombies would struggle to path through an open door. But worst one I encountered was melee zombies would be slow and buggy, where I would swing and take like 5 seconds after pressing to acctualy perform the action, as the zombie hit me more.

[@sventomasek]

People that are saying early access, Sons Of The Forest also launched in early access and was basically a complete game except for the story. Early access should not be an excuse to release an unfinished and buggy mess, but a way for you to improve your game with your playerbase's feedback before it's too far into development to change it's direction.

[@neallarkariz]

just watched the 2021 build and it's surprising how they rework it into this ugly build.

[@sdgamer1860]

was it actually better 3 years ago? What the hell happened?

[@Shreezy]

Tornbanner ​@@sdgamer1860

[@neallarkariz]

@@sdgamer1860 I cannot say it's better but it closer to NMRiH 1??, there is zombie kid, it has a lot of maps from what I've seen, it has gore system (if the zombie lost arm, it inflicts bleeding damage), and from what I've seen there is less lag?, and you can play solo.

[@Hollow_space2781]

@@neallarkariz back in 2021 it was the og devs that worked on the first nmrih and then torn banner hired them or something and its clear to see that torn banner completely fucked with the vison the og devs were going for

[@NatoRadeX]

@@Hollow_space2781 Yep 100% this. Torn Banner has sweet baby inc under them and it shows with this game. You see nothing but DEI everywhere here.

[@Mozza.]

It hurts to see this due to loving the hell out of the first game. I will keep my eye on the game though to see how they approach it

[@grimmy7937]

Gotta love the teleporting runners breh them bros FEININ, also got stuck looking at the codes book at the power plant and had to leave and sacrifice my level 15 survivor we on fein time

[@Ghost-jj6ud]

Credit where credit is due, you did seem to be the only one to sound the alarm.

[@Hyxzie]

I just refunded it after my second run, its so buggy and laggy, it sucks i waited this game like 5 years for this game

[@cymo2433]

The second somebody starts defending a product with a price tag and micro transactions with "its in beta" they have lost all rights to speak.

[@CashMoneyMerta]

Watching people post video's of this today is painful.

[@grimmy7937]

They took the lights in the hospital from broadway 3 😭

[@PARAN0IDxGERBIL]

Another Slime Rancher 2 situation I see. Sequel to a hit game, comes out years and years and years after the original. Okay, great! Wait… why is it early access? Why is there less content than the original? What have you been doing all this time? >it’s early access bro! Okay? And? Why is it early access? What does that have to do with the game being disappointing?

[@TheRealClaylex]

Fuckkkkkkkk Slime Rancher 2 sucked?

[@davis1622]

True man. Same situation happened with Sons of the Forest. Took several years in development time and came out as a minimal experience with a terrible excuse for a story, forgone mechanics/features from previous game, and little qol. Had a group friends that have been waiting years to play that together. Can't tell you the heartbreak that came from our experience. Really made us lose trust with game companies. And once we have a bad first experience, there's a good chance we don't come back.

[@brandonmccann15]

So what happened with this slime 2 game did it get good in the end lol

[@olenhol2przez4]

​​@davis1622 umm... what? What mechanics The forest had that aren't in SotF? Bag crafting? After like... a month of game out of early access we already had vehicles and game wad literally getting updates EVERY 2 WEEKS.

[@PARAN0IDxGERBIL]

⁠@@olenhol2przez4 People like this are the exact reason why it’s so painful to criticize slime rancher 2, NMRIH 2, SotF, or any of these other early access sequels. You people are incredibly dense but I will try in vain once again to explain to you what the actual problem is. These sequels came out years and years after the originals. The originals were smash hit games that made the developers millions of dollars. Why then do the sequels have to be early access again? It’s almost like the devs just took their millions and partied for four years, and then when the bank account started to look a little light, they finally took six months and cooked up some slop to sell to their fans. These games could all be good now, they could be guaranteed to be good in a little while, but it doesn’t change the disappointment of the original launch.

[@daugintas1]

And fanboys on steam put jester rewards on legit negitave rewievs

[@adriankheyon]

They add nothing. They fix nothing. They only do is early release the game without improvements. We dont want half bake games anymore even others always saying its early access shut it just stop.b

[@ENZOMAN12]

6:51 Right here, this is what I dont like the most. They made a big point on replayability, but if NOTHING changes after playing 3 times in a row, shit is going to get boring. Fine, ill huff some copium and say alot of the issues like the desync, broken animations, and the plethora of bugs will be fixed in time. But the game specifically advertised replayability as a core feature. Thats straight up lying.

[@ethernetmumasmr_3231]

Another back 4 blood situation, extremely disappointing for my favorite game’s sequel :c

[@sdgamer1860]

I heard B4B only had 2 devs that worked on L4D while the rest of the team never played 1 or 2

[@wearemad2905]

B4B was more polish than this hot gabage

[@xdgg6696]

The beta was free too in b4b and it ran pretty well

[@maximum_effort1]

Nah B4B's beta was free and way more polished than this

[@tonycallme3667]

Honestly i was hoping it would costs around 12.99$ to 9.99$ so i could afford it, but now i couldn't and even after seeing how many bugs it has from gameplays alone, i felt somewhat disappointing. The only thing holding me back from removing this from my wishlist is that it is still early access.

[@iDarby]

My friend updated me on the state of the game as i had it wishlisted, I then tuned into your stream to see what it was actually like. Then 2 seconds after tuning in you were sucked into the wall. Brilliant game feature right there.

[@goofygothy3138]

More reason to never buy video games anymore.

[@neallarkariz]

dude this is what I feel, I am holding my temptation to buy games nowadays, no matter how hype, how good the IP is, and even the no woke label, because this industry is f*cked from what I've seen.

[@charlespancamo9771]

get on rutracker and torrent them, straight up.

[@PrOJekT-DarK]

Bro u did everything right Videos about NMRIH2 flooded with Glazed videos how nice it is and there are only "minor" bugs. I sadly had to refund the game because of the bugs and glitches besides that the OG NMRIH Spirit is gone in my Opinion so sad Story short we will see what happends in 2 years

[@Hockeyplayer10HD]

Refunded

[@normoo2005]

Why is the Rimworld tribal cowboy cooking 😭

[@monarch1_1]

probably one of the most humble reviews ive seen shame the devs have been sloppy here, was really looking forward to it

[@ejmuerterisefromthedead8924]

Devs should price this to 20 dollars

[@SourceEngineEnjoyer]

that's too generous

[@ws556]

I live in Taiwan And the game cost around 15USD AND I WILL SAID THAT IS OVERPRICED

[@ejmuerterisefromthedead8924]

@@ws556 i was thinking if it can get lower than 10 dollars

[@RichardRMM]

15$

[@Godly_Nose]

there are free games with more polish and more replayable than this game, it shouldn't even have a price tag.

[@a.keeper]

Funny thing aswell (but probably not really related to the video) is that there was footage of a dev streaming the 2022 version on their discord 2 years ago up on youtube and on the day of the EA release Torn Banner Studios apparently blocked it

[@Lickzalot]

I realized just from one review that the game would get repetitive quickly due to the lack of random elements. It needs more randomly generated variables for both the map and objectives to keep things fresh.

[@mr_noobx3009]

extraction shooters should be a gaming sin, especially when it's made with the dev's ass

[@sauvereaper6981]

there are games in early access that are actually playable, made by smaller studios, and offer so much more content. Sentry is a great example of good early access game. if you think a sci fi FPS/TD game with roguelike progression sounds fun, i would definitely try it. (i'm addicted)

[@XenonPrimeSBSV]

If they're going to charge money there really needs to be a basic functionality there. These sorts of bugs would be acceptable in a free beta test, basically the devs say 'hey, is anyone interested in helping us identify bugs and gathering test data?' But charging money sets a basic standard expectation unless the devs explicitly say something like 'we're putting it in early access because we need the cashflow, we know there are some serious bugs still but we hope to squash them soon'. A little bit of honesty and communication would save a lot of devs their reputations.

[@mmrazzmrazov9549]

The game loop and concept of the game is great. There is huge potential and even now it is very interesting to play. But the technical state is simply hell. It’s a shame that this is already the second game with the ambition to become a great when it comes out in early access, it feels like a pre-alpha and is EXTREMELY unfinished. (same with forever winter). There wasn’t a lot of excitement around , and I don’t understand what prevented the developers from spending a couple of months on finishing it. And it turns out that the players are simply acting as testers for their own money

[@cartelbunny2809]

Everyone had to say the game was good and fun since they signed NDA unlike you

[@RomanBellic-ez5fh]

I think the point of ammo scarcity in NMRH is not the amount you find but the maximum amount you can carry.

[@PeninsulaCity2024]

This is why I have a love-hate attitude towards Early Access. For the most part, I have seen devs use the model well and their games actually thrive even if they don't go viral in any way. But once in a while, you get stuff like this. Absolute shame. Honestly should had either delay any public release even further or cancel entirely.

[@sweettea5581]

yes, I bought yesterday and after 1 hour 45 minutes asked for a refund. I'm not saying it's not a good game! But it will be when they finish it as a full game, so it's very fresh. Nice graphics and the atmosphere in the game is good, but the optimization and problems from the pindg server were really terrible, from 180 fps it dropped to 20-25, you really don't want that. And the problem was that I had people in the group who had 190 ping on the server and when they approached me the game could not be played at 15-20 ping. So, it's a shame, but the game should have been in development.

[@M4R10_]

01 map, 1 pistol, 1 revolver, 1 rifle 1 shotgun 1 assault rifle. Pistol ammo, magnum ammo, light ammo, heavy ammo, shotgun ammo 👈 bizarre!

[@RomanBellic-ez5fh]

I was looking for a fair review all over yt just after the release and I didn’t seem to find anything talking about the bad, at first I thought the game was genuinely good, however I knew I couldn’t trust the game industry so I waited and got the truth. Respect.

[@absolutfx]

Your multitude of tabs are horrifying.

[@LittleFlame23]

Yeah sorry that’s me when I’m working 😂

[@Immolator772]

KF2 in it's beta state was amazing and well optimised, in fact better optimised than release. Betas should be there to let you test the game, if you see floating heads is incompetence not a bug.

[@Rouzuki]

I had about an hour with it at launch before I had to get to bed for work but from my experience a lot of the issues should be easily fixable. Key phrase being "should be". My biggest concern is that I don't think this game will ever be fun with rando matchmaking. There needs to be a way for players to extract early without completing objectives so they can save their character at the expensive of maybe the loot they scavenged that match or something. Second to that, I was oversold on melee combat. It sucks and that's being generous.

[@7mercutio17]

It’s sad. Been waiting for this game for years.. all they had to do is just copy paste the original game. Make it prettier, Add some new mechanics/puzzles, add different maps and just be overall creative which I imagine is probably the best part of developing a game.. And they couldn’t do that. Sad a source mod from 10 years+ is still better.

[@ohnohe-man19]

You’re absolutely right that the games unfinished but when it goes on sale or gets the official release, I’m buying it because I really like the first game

[@mysticaltenderman749]

Played two games, only bug encountered was 1 player in team was invisible

[@captainwagon8611]

Never played the first game, but look at forever winter and the difference in the "early access" broad unfinished game analogy this should have been free or found other ways to play test the game without charging $30 to play it, and it looks like people really liked the first game ofc they want better, they care about it. I need a medic bag

[@TheRealClaylex]

God I need to play Forever Winter, that looks so fun

[@Devilforce988]

First one is like a slower, much harder version of left 4 dead, minus the special infected. Getting from A to B with minimal resources(or surviving in 1 area cod style until rescued), constantly fighting in areas with not much space while trying not to get cornered by the many slow zombies(some run or crawl). In this "sequel", you have so much room to move and dodge most danger, way more resources while a single medkit in the first game is like the holy grail that you will keep until you are 1 hit away from death, and every bite just about confirms you have 2 minutes left until you become undead with your vision/sound worsening if you cant find pills to stave it off for another 2 minutes, repeat.

[@charlespancamo9771]

@@Devilforce988 it's not like l4d. stop that comparison right in it's tracks.

[@DroNNIOfficial]

​​@@Devilforce988 Stop this l4d BS bro! Very different games.

[@Epicface48]

I was always looking forward to this since it's announcement, how would the story be expanded upon? What kind of new equipment and cool skills would we get? ...All that hope died the second they announced they were with Torn Banner, the same group that let chivalry 2 rot with rampant cheaters to the point that you could fucking GOOGLE cheats for the game and get some within minutes, and also the people who (most-likely) caused a suicide and tried to sweep it under the rug, Soter Dave should've been the end for them, now it just feels like they're dragging a game I enjoyed into the grave with them.

[@beatle7809]

I like how this video came out a day after the early access launch

[@10David31]

Enjoyed this honest take. I will happily sub after watching that, Looking forward to any other content from you sir! Thanks for the video!

[@joemancool]

They have a character customization tab ingame, i feel like if it does somehow survive limping down the way. They are going to try and add microtransactions to try and milk the last loyal fans before offing this live service game, if you don't think they will add microtransactions to character customization look at chivalry 2 and see how they did it in that one. Look at the trends of a dev to get a good idea how they are going to act.

[@offdutyjie]

This was really sad to see, I was hoping that they would of taken the time and gotten the game tighted down... I was so hyped before but man, the bugs, no sound bugs, broken terran, aim and hit boxes being bugged... This hurts... The game has a lot of potential but man, I was looking for something to co-op with my brother.. I've been playing and it is kind of bland right now

[@Karti200]

An follow up for great source mod that wanted to move to the own engine, spent years in development hell and in the end, is worse than its original it comes from? what a shocker xd

[@DryAgedMignon]

man how'd it end up like this? I never buy games on release and I'm glad I didn't

[@Hunko115]

Something that bothered me a lot was the characters. Not only can we NOT customize them. But the Female and Male characters share the same exact model XD. It looks so jarring and the fact that none of them really look like they would fit the role of a special operative is even worse. They look like registered offenders or soccer moms who has never held a gun. I just want to look and feel like a mysterious special ops with tactical gear and not some makeshift 80's outfit.

[@spookrockcity]

So glad i returned this dud

[@Zaamos]

Played first run - 90 min easy win - bugged asf, didnt even lvl up with 70% map explore :P 1 same map.... for this price? this? first one is FREE giving lots of maps that can be done 3 ways etc...refunded. AND They dont even LOOK LIKE ZOMBIES, dont get me wrong - i do autopsies on daily baisys i know how dead human looks like, and this is some jelly blood and jelly default skins of any game called zombies.... really like ur honesty, finally someone saying things he thinks about, all those youtubers playing no more only do candy bullshit. Im now only waiting for killing floor 3 - as 1 and 2 are made well, and slay the spire 2, nothing more :P

[@bigboi2724]

Killing floor 3! Our last hope!

[@Zaamos]

@@bigboi2724 exacly!

[@Infarlock]

Please review the game in a year from now, to see what changed Hope devs will fix the game and make it as good as nmrih1