Why did I switch my major from CS to MIS | Switching majors | That Indian Guy

[@RM-xs3ci]

I also switched from CS to MIS. I started programming at 12, and for a while, I enjoyed it. But as I began to use it on a more professional level, I started to dislike my time programming. I rather work directly with systems, or as a project manager.

[@Dyl_Cam]

Yea same dude. I loved programming when I was younger, and I still do when it's my own project. But I realized after I got my associates in programming I actually dont want to do this daily. This is the perfect degree, you can do business, technology, or both like you said. Hell yea.

[@lcc710]

I love how you explained it. I was initially studying engineering but then I was contemplating switching to CS but then someone recommended MIS to me. I’m really excited to start MIS this fall

[@N12SR48SLC]

Which uni you'd get admitted to?

[@NiaPD]

Hey can you share which colleges you are applying to for MIS? I'm planning for Fall course too but started my preparation a bit late.

[@bylapudibhavya2065]

​@M G hey did you take MS in MIS?I am planning to take it? Could you tell your experience?it would be helpful

[@imadabab]

MIS is a perfect major. Thanks for sharing. I subscribed.

[@RahulPandey-jo6rk]

Wow!!! I was wondering whether I should go for mis or ms in cs. You just made it so clear. Thanks man

[@hotdogjohnson]

Hey man what did you choose?

[@joseph2073]

What did u choose ??

[@danielfuentes6023]

What are you thoughts on majoring in MIS and minoring in CS?

[@TheFootballPlaya]

honestly that sounds like a great idea. I'm here at utd as well doing cs degree, what he's saying is right in terms of being geared towards software development. If you want to do cs minor, try to take at 2-3 intro to programming, 1 data structures & algorithm class, preferable 1 advanced data structures & algorithm classes, 1 database course, and discrete math. That will give you enough breadth to probably pass an interview (along with leetcode/hackerrank practice), but also a good enough understanding of programming to get working with some stuff. In addition to all of the other resources he mentioned, the intro courses at your university are good for taking people with little programming and laying a foundation. from there, you'd be surprised, a lot of the progression will happen on your own through your own work. Not everyone needs the chops to be a software engineer, data scientists code less than software engineers, as do data analysts, as do business intelligence analysts, and yet they all involve some level of programming. So getting a basic foundation is a good idea.

[@nadinprabhu8480]

@@TheFootballPlaya Hi Bhai, I am Currently in the 12th Grade and I am applying to UTD this fall, could i get in touch with you? It'll really help me a lot..please

[@TheFootballPlaya]

@@nadinprabhu8480 does on here work? what are your questions?

[@nadinprabhu8480]

@@TheFootballPlaya Cool. I am currently in the 12th grade. I want to get into management side later on but i feel that having the technical skills is equally important so i am contemplating between cs and mis(ITS). In both the cases i am sure of doing an MBA after graduation. What do you think? And do you have any idea regarding the professors of ITS in Utd and the job outcomes.

[@ananyatomar4249]

Hey can u pls recommend the udemy and coursera courses u did for programming! That'll be great help.

[@tanveertouhid9483]

thank you so much brother

[@Lachamimi]

Hi , I need your help ASAP 😰 please .I have 15 days to decide. I would like to take MIS but I am scared because I don’t know anything about computers, programming,and stuffs. Any suggestions? Guys?

[@joseph2073]

For MIS, u actually don't need programming skills ..... There u only develop business, management and leadership skills along with some basic coding stuffs ..... But what this guy said is truly an awesome idea... That is.... *Develop coding skills on your own and the management skills will be developed through your studies* So this makes you play on the safe side ... That is .. u can also work as a developer (based on the coding skills that u developed on Ur own) and u can also get job as IT managers (based on your degree)...

[@elmelouaimane]

@@joseph2073 i recently discovered this major and want to go for it for my bachelor degree but there is no university in china that offers the MIS for ungergraduate ,you can go for it while doing your masters degree and i'm really stuck between majoring in softwar engineering ,computer science and then do an MIS or go for a business major and then the MIS .i would be so gratful if you can help or even give a piece of advice .thank you in advance.

[@kushpatel8968]

everyone who switches out of computer science switches to mis

[@bblaster1895]

Is it advisable to pursue MS in MIS without any prior work experience ? I am in my undergrad final year CSE

[@ronpatel1052]

omg I’m indian too! And I’ve been to that Patel brothers! *Also that airport I think*

[@MohitSharma-lb5xg]

Hello Do we require any skills for Information systems?

[@shreyadeshmukh6082]

Ty a lot for your info sir I am not good in coding but I want to pursue MIS course Masters in USA and very afraid of doing coding so pls sir tell me universities that dont have much of coding in MIS and are less competitive universities to get in

[@TheFootballPlaya]

apply to UTD. they give out a bunch of scholarship. the itss program here is ranked pretty high. I'm not too sure how competitive it is, but utdallas is a great school for computer / IT side of things.

[@517kalyaniyeradesi9]

Information science/studies and Information System are the same could please tell me

[@AmanYadav-tp3nk]

Hello bro, If I take MIS and CS Minor. Can I qualify for STEM OPT??

[@RohitThagunna-x1o]

BS in MIS?

[@adibchowdhury8819]

I did the same as you, haven't looked back sense

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

Love to hear that!

[@devikajalgaonkar3532]

Could you please elaborate as to why you did that?

[@adibchowdhury8819]

@@devikajalgaonkar3532 Computer Science is heavily based on programming. After being in it for 2 years I found that I wasn't interested in developing code as much as I was in other things. Information Systems goes into a variety of areas such as Networking, servers, databases, and programming. Personally I love computer networking and I like that I could learn different things in information systems rather than just focus on code.

[@bylapudibhavya2065]

​@Adib Chowdhury Hey, can I know if I can get a job in supply chain field like working on OMS (order management system) after doing MS in MIS course?could u please tell?

[@adibchowdhury8819]

@@bylapudibhavya2065 yes I believe you can. But there is also a growing number of colleges that are starting to offer it as a separate degree program now so that would probably be a better option.

[@MS-nh7zj]

can MIS student work in AI , DS during opt ????

[@ss58104]

Hi, my son got ITS in Jindal business school UTD, it seems there is no MIS right now. But UH has MIS and my son got an admission in UH as well as we are living in Houston. When you say MIS in UTD, when did they remove MIS and changed to ITS(Information Technology Systems) and why.. Do you have an idea about MIS in UH, how is it?

[@ss58104]

Can anyone in this group help sharing the information. He goes as a freshman this year needing help.

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

ITS is UTD's information systems course. I'd recommend looking at the course catalog to compare universities than just the name of the course.

[@wowwq9744]

Can anyone please tell me the truth behind computer engineering having a lower growth rate than MIS? And please tell me which is one better.

[@TheFootballPlaya]

hi, someone I know is working for a large semi-conductor, probably the largest, and he's a computer engineer. so this is what i've gathered from him. computer engineering opens a lot of doors, the whole engineering side is open to them, on the electrical front, as well as software development. The market is competitive though so you probably need a masters. If you're going into chip design, your location options are kind of limited. If your in the us, it's austin,tx or silicon valley. Hardware is more competitive and has less jobs than software, so a lot of computer engineering majors end up as software developers. But that could also be embedded systems or lower-level things. Doing things like being a flight-systems software engineer or even real-time computing or distributed / hpc / parallel processing. MIS is probably growing more because of the wide availability. Nearly every medium-large company needs IT people. They need systems engineering people, business intelligence, technology consultants, technical salesmen / sales engineers, erp/crm larger systems people, network administrators, system administrators, database administrators, etc., there's a lot more breadth as to what MIS entails. It's really big. You can also transition into other sub-disciplines fairly easily, because MIS at it's core is a business degree with a focus in IT. So you'll learn the basics of accounting, finance, operations, etc, so that your skill set will be viable to pretty much every business. You could get another degree / masters in a discipline like finance or accounting or supply chain and probably find work in those sectors as well with relative ease comparatively to somebody without a business background; though a computer engineer / computer science person could also do that too, however, the business-side of things would be new to them and they'd be starting from scratch. MIS people can also transition to cs, however a computer engineering person would probably have an easier time doing so. The level of abstraction is deeper in CS rather than MIS, and CE shares courses with CS. You could probably transition into MIS after computer engineering though. The computer side of things would be probably simpler, from a physical perspective. There would less focus on the physics or the scientific / engineering reality of the systems at play, and more practical focus and applications of systems that are already built. But both of which are challenging professions and have their own difficulties, you gotta just figure out what you like more. As far as salary, it's a little shady on the MIS side because there's so much you can do, but if you're a computer engineer then you're probably making like $90k - 120k entry level (assuming masters probably) I would say in the us (at least in texas), in california you're probably making a lot more than that just because of living. For software development, it really depends on where your focus is, so for a basic software engineer I would say the average is like $60-80k for entry level that would be a good starting salary. Then for MIS, it ranges. I would say for the beginning or starting salary you should expect about that of a entry software engineer. But in the long run, for most positions, you probably won't make the same amount. So, software engineers can make like $100-130k with a few years experience on average. Whereas, someone like a business intelligence analyst, would probably max out at $90k-100k and you'd have to be really good and have a lot of experience, this probably wouldn't be the average either (this is for texas). For systems people, i'm not sure of how much they make. A lot of it too has to do with whether or not your self-employed. Like if you run your own IT company, you could very well make upwards of $200k per year. It all depends. As far as transitioning into software development from an MIS degree solely, I think its possible however the market for software development / engineers is very competitive too. So you'd be competing with the cs majors, which is fine that doesn't mean you can't be a software engineer. You'll just need to touch up on data structures and algorithms and practice whiteboarding questions and practice programming in your spare time and build side projects. But yeah, the most important thing I would say is finding out what you like better. What would you not mind doing for a living, learning about in your spare time, what are your values, do you mind relocating, etc. these are all questions you should be asking yourself. There is no 'one way' to become a software developer or any of the MIS professions I just mentioned. But for computer engineers, it's pretty set and standard that you will at the very least come from either computer engineering or electrical engineering, and 'maybe' in some cases physics but that would be at a phD level probably.

[@TheFootballPlaya]

@@sahilkakkar5628 MIS generally has a different focus than software engineering or computer science. MIS is blended with business; you're focus will be constructing, maintaining, and fixing systems that have been built by engineers or purchased via 3rd party companies by a firm. Lately, it's also included a huge analytical portion as well. So, you'll probably take classes in SQL / data management / data governance / business analytics / python & R / and excel. CS will be more like an applied math degree; it will be abstract math, programming in java / c++, and learning about the stuff that makes up the software components to computers like operating systems, data bases, networks, etc. Software engineering is broad - but it's pretty specific too. You're literally building software. So, yeah you could go embedded or web development and those two skillsets would be entirely different, but in the basic abstract sense - they'd still be development. The focus is product creation. Data science and machine learning is a big world too. So there's the people who maintain and build the infrastructure to support big data, like data engineers and architects and these people could be computer science or MIS folks. Then there's data science - which is more statistics / ML / theoretical CS / Math heavy. There's like a duality between hardcore data science which would be cutting edge research / research scientist / machine learning engineer world - which would be phD level competition and research oriented. Then there's the more business-inclined data science folks, who still have advanced degrees, masters & phD's but aren't necessarily focusing on developing / proving / and researching cutting edge techniques. Then there's folks who use machine learning models, but aren't necessarily data scientists, and they are just implementing them in some language like python and might not need to be as statistics heavy and they're doing this to provide analytics. They say the data science trichotomy is math & stats / computer science / business or domain knowledge. It's multidisciplinary. As far as salaries, I think on average software developers probably make more than analysts, however, data scientists probably (?) make more than the average software developer; honestly, i'm not too sure on that. Because there are the high-paid california swe's that make a lot, a lot of that though too is because of high CoL. As far as data science vs MIS; I think MIS would be better suited for business intelligence positions for a couple reasons. First, business knowledge is valuable. You could be the most intelligent person in the room, but if you can't put things in a context that's relevant to the business, you're not useful. MIS will provide a foundation in business understanding then it will veer off and focus specifically on information systems. For most people in the business, minus developers, the technology that is the focus of information systems is more relevant. For example, finance / supply chain / accounting / marketing folks all probably use SQL. Database systems are a big focus in MIS. Architecting them, handling unstructured data, and providing analytical dashboards with the data is a big part of modern MIS programs. Data science-focused degrees tend to either focus on heavy statistics and math and or theoretical computer science, but could also include areas like physics, engineering, or natural sciences. You can't go wrong with either area, really. Both are needed and necessary. It just comes down to where your inclination is. If you are more quantatively inclined and potentially like abstract model thinking, then do a math / stat / cs / physics / engineering degree and try to focus on data science. If you aren't so much that, but still interested in computer systems, then do MIS.

[@Atomic-Blast-]

@@TheFootballPlaya i just read your comments, one year later, and they must be the most honest, technical yet understandable, and clear comments about this debate. Thank you so much for this valuable information.

[@bylapudibhavya2065]

​@TheFootballPlaya hey! Can i get a job in supply chain field with MS in MIS degree.could u please tell

[@jaswanth2001]

Very well explained sir, thank you very much 😊

[@vandanakashyap9076]

I got an admit for MS in Computer Engineering from UTD . I want to change to MS in CS.. please guide

[@priyaiyer6706]

Hey would you recommend MS in Information systems for someone who has a commerce background ?

[@rimakhadka9888]

Yes

[@kodithedimathiraga]

can i do data analyst or data science job if i have skills by MSCIS degree?

[@Richard-sy5xn]

I am guessing yes. But I am no expert

[@mahsas1990]

Thank you for the video! Why do many think IT isn't worth much?

[@imthesanket]

Does MIS course comes under STEM courses of every university? Asking this to clarify regarding OPT And CPT.

[@ritwikjain1419]

Yes it always does. But still to be sure, you must drop a mail to the university you are interested in, for confirmation.

[@sohamupadhyay7557]

Yes cause it’s management more than technical

[@matthewmcgee6874]

I thought MIS is in the business school

[@user-xy2ly4uz6p]

Matthew McGee it is. But remember that business schools have STEM degrees for finance, MIS, cybersecurity, etc

[@anthonyb2990]

@@user-xy2ly4uz6p So if you major in MIS and minor in finance you have a business/STEM degree?

[@perfectperfect899]

I am an introvert and not people person taking MIS course. I am more in to numbers not writing and MIS has a lot of writing, I am thinking about changing my major to CS please I need some advice.

[@perfectperfect899]

@Hamo06 Thank you, I was just skeptical if it didn’t help and was confused about what to do with it after graduation.

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

MIS courses will usually be in the business school, so naturally lot more social environment to study in. That's something to keep in mind. Are you ready for the social and networking challenges it would bring? Personally I was looking for that, so this was a plus for me as I made the switch.

[@perfectperfect899]

@@ThatIndianGuyUSA Socializing and networking is a challenge for me, now we are working on business analysis and I am overwhelmed. Talking all about managerial positions and decision-making stuff 🤦🏽‍♀️ I don’t know how am gonna survive 😔

[@bylapudibhavya2065]

​@Perfect Perfect hey did you take MS in MIS?

[@perfectperfect899]

@@bylapudibhavya2065 hi I didn’t because I changed my major.

[@aaishwaryadevi619]

Hi, I have an admit from UTD ms in ITM. I have done my bachelors in Electronics n communications. Can we change major from MS in ITM to ms in CS at UTD? both r from different schools.

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

Each program has their own requirements, even for major changes within the same university. You can reach out the CS advisors and learn more about the process. I remember if you wanted to go from MIS to CS for Undergrad at UTD, there was a minimum GPA requirement.

[@nirmalamardia5144]

Hi How is UNDERGRADUATE information science at UIUC IS IT WORTH IT OR SHOULD I COME I TRANSFER WHICH IS HARD TO GET IN I M FROM INDIA THANKS

[@dimplemanda]

Sir Can I switch from Chemical Branch to Msis..Pl do reply

[@M7Army]

depends

[@sushmareddy8626]

Is it possible for a person to get admit in mis who did ug in civil engineering

[@TheFootballPlaya]

yeah

[@Anirudha_Dudhasagare]

are Ms IS courses STEM masters degree??

[@prerakchoksi2379]

Is it possible to change from ms in cs to ms in mis?

[@jo-cu6gp]

bro i am acivil engineering graduate and wanna switch to it field.plz suggest me what to do masters in

[@RishabKhuba]

Hey, can ECE students with some programming background make a transition to MIS. Without any work experiences ir Hackathon And with a decent GPA in UG.. Pls mention if it's possible or not to make this transition and mention any required prerequisites for this I aspire to join Northeastern University for MIS

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

I know a lot of people who have done that. It's definitely possible.

[@ritwikjain1419]

Hey Hersh brother, I'm making a switch from the field of Biotechnology (in which I graduated) to MIS, in the US. Currently I'm doing an internship in Digital Marketing (SEO to be specific). I don't have any coding/ program knowledge but i still want to get into MIS. Is it possible the to get the course without coding in syllabus???

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

You can choose MIS program that is less technical. You can find this out by looking at the courses you have to take

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

You can choose MIS program that is less technical. You can find this out by looking at the courses you have to take

[@ritwikjain1419]

Thanks for the response brother.

[@bylapudibhavya2065]

​@Ritwik Jain hey!can I know how is MS in MIS?

[@WPaKFamily]

math major minoring in mis?

[@TheFootballPlaya]

i'd minor in cs personally. math and cs go hand and hand.

[@atharvabiyani5848]

IS MIS CALLED “INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND MANAGEMENT” AT UTD?

[@stuffhappened9271]

maybe, some places do call it information technology

[@atharvabiyani5848]

@@stuffhappened9271 IS A CS DEGREE MORE VALUABLE THEN A MIS DEGREE IM THINKING TO DO MIS BUT I DONT WANT TO REGRET IT ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@stuffhappened9271]

Atharva Biyani depends on how you feel about the subjects. CS is a more technical degree with a heavier course/ workload, MIS is more of a fine mix between CS and business. You still learn how to program and code but not as in depth as a CS major. With an MIS degree you’ll also be incorporating soft and hard skills into your work. I cant say which is better than the other. However, CS majors tend to make higher salaries than an MIS major

[@atharvabiyani5848]

@@stuffhappened9271 is that the case all the time about salaries being higher. What if I go for a mba in information systems and get a couple years of experience what is the salary going to be like

[@stuffhappened9271]

Atharva Biyani i’d recommend checking out google for more in depth information

[@ishaansharma654]

Notification squad!!!!

[@cloydreyes1570]

can a bs accounting undergrad then pursue IT audit career in a firm, be okay for ms mis?

[@welearn5776]

What is the average salary?

[@Hyuxnie]

I’m majoring is CS and debating on minoring is MIS 😞

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

Sometimes universities also have certification track. I know UTD had one on ERP (SAP) and one on Business Analytics.

[@krishsukhani3322]

Hey So I am an undergrad wanting to pursue MS I am currently pursuing IT and more inclined towards management So could you let me know which field to go for And how feasible it is to learn programming by oneself along with studying MIS (considering worst case that in my undergrad i didnt do any major coding) Also could you provide resources for that..... Thanks in advance for your advice and amazing videos

[@nidhipandya9264]

I would like to know that too

[@Romancefantasy]

Can you post a list or link to the udemy and corsera classes that were valuable to your learning?

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

I took it 4 years ago. I’ll try my best to find the course.

[@abhinavpriyadarshi5117]

Somebody is hiding the accent 😉

[@akshatshetty5569]

I wish to study abroad after 12th commerce . Which country would be affordable for a middle class person like me who wishes to enter the field of either management , business or accounts?

[@noorqueen4854]

RedSkullTM Germany?

[@akshatshetty5569]

@@noorqueen4854 Are you asking me ?

[@saucy7839]

is MIS easier then CS?

[@ThatIndianGuyUSA]

I found it to be easier. You learn about a lot of topics. Building depth in those is left up to you. Elective courses can help with building depth too.

[@ravnet2519]

@@ThatIndianGuyUSA I am currently doing BS in MIS at California State University ,Sacramento. Can you help me decide I want to become Cyber security analyst I get job with MIS

[@babi9579]

CAN A GRADUATE MECHANICAL ENGINEER PURSUE MIS?

[@user-xy2ly4uz6p]

BABI yes

[@babi9579]

@@user-xy2ly4uz6p MS in computer science?

[@joseph2073]

@@babi9579 yes

[@jim43597]

Bro does coding come into picture in entire course of MIS Ms ??

[@TheFootballPlaya]

it will depend on the school, but there should be at least a couple courses that teach how to program in MIS. Other courses might cover additional topics related to technology, which could involve programming, but won't necessarily be "programming courses" as in the focus is to teach how to program. Rather they'll just assume that you can figure it out and then continue on with whatever the topic of that course is.