Siskel & Ebert: Worst Of 1998 - Godzilla, Spice World, Armageddon, BASEketball, Deep Rising

[@natejamesr1081]

It's hard seeing Gene talk about losing 2 hours of his life watching these shitty movies. He probably knew he didn't have too much time left to waste.

[@blackmumba111]

I don’t think Gene would’ve seen watching movies…even bad ones…as a bad thing. He would’ve seen it as a worthwhile past time than warning people not to waste parts of their own lives.

[@gocsa]

Meh, go back and watch all the other episodes of worst movies of the year. He always said the "these movies robbed us of 2 hours that we're never getting back" line, even as far back as the early 80s. We can't know obviously how he felt at the time but didn't seem like the type of guy who thinks "I don't have too much time left".

[@irwinator2019]

Gene Siskel was a beast. He didn't let something like cancer stop him from doing what he loved. He clearly stared cancer in the face with balls of steel. That's what I call dedication and passion. And the same can be said for Roger Ebert. They lived life to the fullest. Godspeed to both men.

[@bijibadness]

the updating of the stuff sitting around the TV to fit into 1997 and 1998 is a really really cute and endearing touch. that's really great, actually. a _great_ touch. sincerely.

[@justinbergmans36]

It’s heartbreaking to see Mr. Siskel suffering. Rip ❤

[@mikenavis2745]

hard to watch this, you can really tell Gene is quite ill here. This must be one of his last shows with Roger before he died :(

[@ThatOldTV]

Yes, it was one of his last shows. He died a month after filming it. However, he does seem to be enjoying himself talking about bad films.

[@reneedennis2011]

@@ThatOldTV Yup.

[@ATMyles]

Thanks for posting.

[@gmughadam76]

😔

[@DouglasZwick]

I grew up watching these guys, and I didn't remember it feeling so sad back then, probably just because I was a kid. But now, I've just come from watching a few other KZbin videos from earlier in the show's run, when they were both in their prime, slinging witticisms and wry insight with comfort and ease. To go from that to this is absolutely heartbreaking.

[@sleuthentertainment5872]

"I thought maybe there could be a movie where The Spice Girls and The Ninja Turtles fall in love, run out together and never come back!" Goddamn it, I need to see this!

[@jasondouglas152]

Couldn't have a show like this today ... Theyd both get paid off by disney or whoever to pretend to like terrible films . Their honesty makes it great

[@sleuthentertainment5872]

Absolutely. Days were people could say what they think or feel are a thing of the past...

[@an3ony]

thanks for posting. This one's kinda tough to watch because I love this team so much. There's a compilation of their Letterman appearances on this website, take a look if you get a chance.

[@RossAllaire]

The Furby's a nice touch. XD

[@reneedennis2011]

I agree.

[@SeveredLegs]

No self-respecting N64 owner would allow it to sit on top of the TV. With the cords hanging in front of the action? Not a chance.

[@derkcast620]

Nice! i had the same thought

[@KingKool2099]

I did for a little while, when I had no space to otherwise use it. But yeah, not optimal.

[@Blodia1990]

🎯

[@kirkw.72]

Poor Gene it's so clear he lost a step with his cancer. 😩

[@rmu11el]

Totally agree with their review of "Armageddon." Along with Siskel, I started to laugh at the movie as it went along. Could not take it seriously.

[@CaptainSpalding72]

Yep, still a pile of piss.

[@coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925]

10: Lost in Space 9: Spice World 8: I Still Know What You Did Last Summer 7: Ringmaster 6: Burn Hollywood Burn 5: Very Bad Things 4: Simon Birch 3: Psycho 2: The Avengers Dishonorable Mentions: Hope Floats 1: Godzilla

[@jmjfanss]

I love simon birch, i though it was a great movie.

[@unholyperiodza5442]

There was no Iron Man nor Hulk in the Avengers, Uma Thurman was the worst Black Widow I've seen, and Sean Connery dressing up like a bear even Nicholas Cage would punch for turning down Blade.

[@bijibadness]

what's the saddest thing is that _Ringmaster_ was made by a very, very talented and intelligent man. and indeed the whole _Jerry Springer Show_ persona was I guess just an act. and the fact he called the movie and the book it was based on "Ringmaster" is especially sad and sick, because a Ringmaster deals in CIRCUS ANIMALS. that's how he presented his vision -- that the people on his show were circus performers or animals.

[@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105]

Wasn't a lot of the Jerry Springer stuff staged though?

[@HorrorFreq]

It's been over 20 years and I still love The Water Boy. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@markula_4040]

25 years later and still not another Lethal Weapon movie. Danny Glover was right which is SHOCKING considering Hollywood's tendency to just recycle franchises.

[@jasondouglas152]

The made a TV show instead that got canceled almost immediately

[@Yeldarb4]

Used to like Roger better back in the day when I watched this show. These days watching all these old episode I realize that Gene was the better critic. Don't get me wrong they are both great but now Gene is my favourite.

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

I shall be eternally angry that Peter O'Toole didn't agree to take the role of Dumbledore after Richard Harris died. To my dying day, I will always maintain that O'Toole would have been a perfect Dumbledore!!!!!

[@tamaraclaw]

About "the waterboy"...I was going to the movies with a friend and "The Waterboy" and " Pleasantville" were playing at the same theater. I wanted to see "Pleasantville" but I let him coerce me into seeing "The Waterboy" Years later he apologized to me.

[@TahiriVeila13ABY]

Only one I disagree with is Lethal Weapon 4 which I saw in the theater and enjoy to this day.

[@reneedennis2011]

We saw it in the cinema, too! Lethal Weapon and Lethal Weapon II are the best ones of the series.

[@Nathan-gd7xq]

Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.

[@danieljimenezjofre2441]

Siskel sounds tired 😢

[@ganglabesh]

probably medications, its sad

[@sebeku2]

He was dying..

[@markelijio6012]

Yeah, he should be.@@sebeku2

[@brianmccormick3837]

It is with a very heavy heart that I must share the devastating news that 'Deep Rising' star Treat Williams has left us. He was one of the most prolific character actors I have ever been a fan of and to grace the screen. His family asks for privacy as they try to deal with this profound loss. They thank us for the love and prayers. At this time there will be no further comment.💐😭💔🙏🏻✝

[@kali3665]

Loved Roger and Gene's original review of Godzilla where they were rather put out that Roland Emerich didn't have Godzilla step on "Mayor Ebert" and his assistant Gene. If you're going to take petty revenge against the critics, DO something with that! Spice World is what you get when you try to do Help! when you can't sing or act. And Patch Adams proved that Robin Williams' movie shtick playing a character who allegedly learned the benefits of comedy was really getting old by this time. It didn't work with Patch Adams, and it annoyed me to high skies when he used the SAME shtick in Bicentennial Man the following year, which I didn't like on its own "merits." Ever wonder why the snowman in Jack Frost doesn't exactly look like Michael Keaton? Well, the original choice for the role was George Clooney, so the effects people made the snowman look like Clooney. When Clooney rejected the role, Keaton stepped in, but they didn't have time to fix the snowman's look.

[@joshuacalkins]

Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a better “disaster movie” than Armageddon. It was “The Day After Tomorrow” that I thought reinvented the meaning by being a total disaster. Then 2012, Volcano, etc.

[@TahiriVeila13ABY]

Armageddon was terrible. Deep Impact that same year was even better than Armageddon. Armageddon showcased just how void of talent Michael Bay is.

[@joshuacalkins]

@@TahiriVeila13ABY He’s done so much worse than that. Armageddon has things to like in it, even if you didn’t. It had entertaining performances, humor, and shocking (for the time) effects. It’s fine to hate it, but it’s still one of the best by far. Deep Impact “even better” than a movie you hate? Whatever that means. It had some great moments, but spent more time failing to be worthwhile or entertaining than its’ competition. The reporter and the kids were a total waste of time, so at least Bay had some humor.

[@CuttinBlade]

Thank you.

[@NovasToothbrush]

I strongly disagree with Roger Ebert most the time when it comes to horror

[@scottmcphee2076]

The 1998 remake of Godzilla. I went to see it when it got released. I thought the original movie was much better, even with the primitive special effects and use of an actor in an unconvincing rubber suit. Tastes in movies vary across the world. Even movies that critics hate have their fans. Accept that for some people, movies like Godzilla and Armageddon are in their DVD collections. They are people's favorite movies.

[@scottaznavourian3720]

This might be the first worst list done since the original that a Halloween movie wasnt on it

[@Rary.0]

glad gene got to continue a job he loved until the end.

[@andreaszeintl8206]

I think "Very bad things" is a really funny movie...🙈

[@sleuthentertainment5872]

So do I Is funny, terrible, violent, depressing, disgusting. One of these things with a lot of content that constantly shakes you. And the best 90s black comedy

[@CaptainSpalding72]

Sorry Gene, Lethal weapon 5 coming in 2023!

[@Nathan-gd7xq]

I'm disappointed that Danny Glover didn't tell Gene "I'm getting too old for this shit".

[@unholyperiodza5442]

I can't believe the 1998 Avengers wasn't on this list. Its just a rehash of Batman and Robin with Uma Thurman using her Poison Ivy wig, and the late Sean Connery turning down Blade just to play a Scottish Donald Trump villain who dresses up like a bear the same way Nicholas Cage did in the Wicker Man.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I don't see how Connery was like Trump. He was basically doing a bog standard supervillain not unlike the ones he went up against in his Bond movies.

[@unholyperiodza5442]

@@ricardocantoral7672 In the Nostalgia Critic review his plans were to have more money fr no reason same way like Trump who wants more money for no reason.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

Deep Rising was very fun. But hardly good.

[@reneedennis2011]

It was a gore-a-thon.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

@@reneedennis2011 So, ok. Does that mean you loved it, liked it, or other?

[@reneedennis2011]

@@Shorty_Lickens Other.

[@crystalshaw8744]

" Should have paid to get out of "...😊😊😊

[@jamesmitchell8922]

14:59 Ugh Ugh Ugh

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I am sorry to say that I loved Odd Couple 2 when I was a kid.

[@rosemaryfarell5264]

Loved em both in Godzilla.lmao

[@FromPillartoPost]

AFFLECK YOU WERE DA BOMB IN PHANTOMS YO!

[@gurtejbauer659]

Godzilla 1998 was meh 😑

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

My friend was a huge Jeremy Piven fan and dragged me to see “Very Bad Things.” It’s 2023, and she’s still apologizing to me. Also, Lethal Weapon 5 is under production now.

[@thenextrung]

😯

[@branagain]

Armageddon is still one of the worst movies ever made.

[@JorgeTorres17-2]

And yet criterion put it In their collection before a Wes Anderson movie

[@jmjfanss]

I like this movie, it's a whole lot better than the truly dreadful godzilla

[@branagain]

@@jmjfanss Fortunately I never saw Godzilla.

[@jmjfanss]

@@branagain lucky you, cause i did, because godzilla was even worse.

[@cassnate6259]

Nah I love it

[@bijibadness]

it is astounding to me that the movie Michael Bay made *right before* _Armageddon_ was _The Rock._ it's not that _The Rock_ is some sort of masterpiece - not even a masterpiece action movie - but it's pretty damn solid, save for the racial / homophobic "Wacky Comedy" stuff. that movie has characters, that movie has something approaching a HEART. so what happened? I think Michael Bay saw _Titanic_ and he said "I can do that, too, and noisier. watch me."

[@simonmarshall19]

Saving Private Ryan is the best . Two Thumbs Up !

[@reneedennis2011]

Look at the toy! 😁

[@sebeku2]

The Waterboy is a cult classic!

[@reneedennis2011]

Yes, it is.

[@kmetcalfe]

I didn't hate all the movies that they listed here, even enjoyed a few of them, but it's hard to argue with their criticisms. I mean Lethal Weapon 4 introduced us to Jet Li, Lost in Space wasn't great but did have very good moments, Armageddon had great Billy Bob Thornton moments, and Deep Rising turned out to be a wonderful B level picture.

[@wallybazoum]

Man, Robin Williams made some god awful movies. I love comedy films but I never understood his appeal he's just too much, silly voices, flailing arms, jumping around, creepy laugh. Even when he was on talk shows he could never answer a question seriously, just the usual manic routine,you get fed up with it because you never got to see the real Robin just the show man.

[@bijibadness]

if you wanna see what some of the Robin Williams hype is about, check out Robin's extended improv with a random audience member's scarf on his appearance on _Inside the Actor's Studio._ there are clips of it, I'm sure. even if you don't find the jokes amusing, there's not one doubt he's not amazingly talented and creative. improvisational comedy is for most people one of the hardest things of all to pull off for a crowd, and Robin did it effortlessly so, so many times for so, so many years. it's down to taste, sure, but when he was ON, the man was a total genius.

[@wallybazoum]

@@bijibadness No doubt the man was talented, that's not in question, but as you said it is a question of taste I suppose and I just couldn't take to him. I liked him in serious roles, Awakenings and Good will hunting etc. In my opinion he was more effective as a serious actor.

[@CaptainSpalding72]

Yep. He beat out Richard Pryor- comedians making movies.

[@Bruce_Wayne35]

Peter turns everyone into Robin Williams! Try not to laugh challenge Family Guy kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzJhqtperZpZpY

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

I saw "Godzilla" in the theater and hated it. Now I'm convinced that the movie makers were just enacting a sick joke on the movie going public. Sorta like "Gremlins 2".

[@jmjfanss]

I saw godzilla vhs from 1998 and it was a total disaster, a real big disappointment from roland emmerick who did the wonderful independence day 2 years earlier and stargate 4 years earlier, poor matthew broderick is wasted in this thing (in fact he made three much better films from the same company tristar pictures (family business, glory and the freshman) he was heading on the same boat as dustin hoffman.

[@botz77]

All these movies are very bad. Deep Rising is the best of the worst. It's unintentionally hilarious.

[@reneedennis2011]

It was a gore-a-thon

[@jasondouglas152]

I hate the waterboy more than Roger

[@CaptainSpalding72]

DEEP RISING is awesome... trashy B movie... no pretense!

[@yournamehere6002]

Spice World is actually kinda fun

[@derkcast620]

I would love to see a Venn diagram of Qanon believers and those who watched the Waterboy in '98

[@doddsino]

I can't believe they used those clips for Baseketball... dropping both the F word and B word. I like both Baseketball, and consider Very Bad Things as one of the best movies ever made. It's actually sandwiched between Bicycle Thief and Citizen Kane in my countdown. So...that says a lot about me.

[@hungwilliam44]

That Spice World critique was lame. The movie was actually good. They paid homage to the Beatles and they wisely lampooned themselves. Victoria was hilarious. Genuine laugh at the end when Emma smiled at the cop. It was fun. Gene's right-Roger's seen too many movies.

[@hungwilliam44]

@balorama. You don't belong with a family.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Good God, you have got to be kidding me. Spice World was nothing more than a cynical Hollywood cash grab. Cute in-jokes is not clever lampooning, it's fluff. If they really wanted to lampoon each other they would recognize their lack of talent.

[@gspendlove]

As Jimmy Kimmel said, "I would rather pack my rectum full of M-80s and squat over a flaming Hibachi than see this movie."

[@coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925]

Gary Glitter was almost in the movie until his little "actions"

[@hungwilliam44]

@@coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925 here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIq1eaKHhZxoY8k

[@cassnate6259]

Baseketball and waterboy are cinematic masterpieces

[@scottaznavourian3720]

I still like Armageddon. Sue me.