Are the Young NFL QBs As Bad As They Seem?

Are the Young NFL QBs As Bad As They Seem? Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, Will Levis, Bryce Young who will get good? Signup for Underdog Here: play.underdogf... CODE: THATSGOOD #bears #broncos #panthers #titans #texans #jaguars #commanders #rookies #nfl #quarterback #bonix #calebwilliams #bryceyoung #jaydendaniels #willlevis #trevorlawrence #NFLNews #thatsgoodsports #brandonperna #colts #anthonyrichardson
Jayden Daniel flipped a switch in prime time for the Commanders. But none of the other young Quarterbacks have played well this season including the rookies. From Bo Nix, to Caleb, to Anthony Richardson, heck all the way to Trevor Lawrence. Today we deep dive NFL QB play.
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[@thatsgoodsports]

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[@Guillermo-m6s]

good video, nimrod

[@flybirdsfly2091]

Congrats and ok

[@LuckyCollie303]

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[@leeconway1000]

No. No Hope for Denver. Not ever. "Our Nada, who art in Nada, Nada be thy name." - Ernest Hemingway

[@matthew1182]

KOC put it best; organizations fail young QBs before young QB fail organizations.

[@krustykrabpizza4328]

Really a great statement from him

[@LateNightTableCo]

It’s still blows my mind how many people honestly thought JMac was gonna start over Sam Darnold this year. Even KTO said it in his latest video about reviving QB’s, despite KOC saying over and over they wouldn’t start JMac until he hit certain milestones in his development

[@Nsane752]

@@matthew1182 he had a very good take on this

[@Nsane752]

2:32 ah, yes the 202015 season

[@sunny3545]

So good they redid the simulation 200000 years later

[@RL_ManicFX]

Personally my favorite season was the 202016 season

[@DefyThemAll]

Ahh, 202015 the year the Dallas Lionfish finally got back to the Super Bowl… almost won it, too

[@MFBloosh]

Perna made us all age up 200000 years.

[@RobETaylor]

I remember that season. It was right after the cyborg wars. When the Terminator came back to save us all.

[@loord617]

Patriots doing Maye a favor not playing him

[@petey34]

Saving him from becoming the next Andrew Luck or RG3

[@notbenbutbenji]

Nah idk about that one. I like the concept of letting a rookie learn and develop on the bench, Green Bay has been the only ones consistently doing it and they're on pace for a 3rd franchise QB in a row. But NE is different because Jacoby, in comparison to the rest of the league, is fuckin asscheeks. Maye isn't learning anything behind a QB like that and NE is wasting time with Maye on the bench right now, that's why they decided to just start him because then at least hes gets some field practice and time with the starters, he gets to develop in the game in real-time. If a rookie can sit behind even a decent QB and learn, then he'll come out better than just starting off the rip, but there are exceptions to this and NE is currently one of them.

[@outlawsensei]

not really more like the Patriots are doing Mayo a favor. With an experienced vet player in Brissett (who played for the pats way back in 2016) Mayo's job is safe. If he puts a rookie out there and Maye fails everyone is going to blame the HC. I know because I'm a Broncos fan and when Nix didn't play well in W1 and W2 everyone tried to blame Payton's complex playbook.

[@notbenbutbenji]

@outlawsensei Jacoby Brusset is not saving anyone's career lol... promise you

[@cristianchavez1699]

i mean thats what all teams should do

[@Joswag]

We were spoiled with Brees Rodgers Brady and Big Ben

[@umbertoocto]

Ben was the only one of them who played well (or at all) their rookie year.

[@Pfisiar22]

@@umbertoocto maybe so, but neither did they play as badly as Caleb Williams and Bryce Young have played this year.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

Mahomes, Herbert, Stroud, now Jayden Daniels ..

[@jacobmeglich6699]

@@umbertooctoeven the “elite” guys are struggling tho, Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Herbert etc all aren’t close to the guys named above rn

[@lucyfir2166]

Mahomes literally sat out in his entire rookie season except 1

[@Bilal_Aslam_]

Young like age or like Bryce Young? 😅

[@zackhicks5320]

Yes.

[@DannyCalYT]

He did capitalize it 👀

[@CBQReview]

@@GiantTinyBalls😅😅 7:03 xxt c😮cxx😮y fv😅 and me xerr

[@Youthful_pokemon]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@willzer6915]

I'd rather be Steve Young than Bryce Young.

[@schroedericeman7200]

I don’t know what Carolina expected giving a short rookie QB no O-lineman and a washed Adam Theilen as his BEST weapon and expect him to develop

[@robcanisto8635]

I'm convinced Tepper thought he was hiring Bryce to be on the dinner waitstaff and not to be the QB for his football team.

[@Capn_FTB]

DJ is his best weapon buddy. But still, that’s not saying a lot.

[@reneewilliams5777]

It's almost criminal what the Panthers did

[@temujin6233]

Theilen isn't washed

[@OHGMATT]

To be fair. A BUNCH of panther fans were screaming to start Andy all last year, and we were all called impatient and stupid and that we don’t know football.

[@Luke0_27]

No, people are just assuming these rookies should be mvp level immediately because CJ Stroud set the bar way too high last year

[@staomruel]

Imagine Peyton Manning getting drafted today.

[@jacobmeglich6699]

No way, if Brady was still in the league he would be a super bowl contender. The new generation has to step up besides Mahomes.

[@Darkboi389]

I always thought Andrew Luck set the bar high. Think about it he game in to a crap oline, past his prime Reggie Wayne, young TY Hilton, no def, crap FO, clueless HC and went 11-5 three straight years and won at least 1 playoff game.

[@BigBlackCantonese]

He did, but the way his career ended made people forget how insane he actually was​@@Darkboi389

[@jaybeats7321]

If you watched the whole thing he makes that exact point like halfway through.

[@ThatDiecastGuy69]

eh, I think in the modern age people have expectations that are so high and unreasonable. The problem today is sports are no longer about teams even for the QB, everyone is just chasing titles and a ring and there is no hardcore chemistry anymore. Rarely do you get to see a transplant QB walk onto a team and win a SB, Brady is the obvious exception. People expect QBs to be able to go from college and immediately find success, thats the exception and not the rule. College football is awful and the NFL is slowly turning into it with these dumb rules but it wont change the fact the game is so different on a mechanics level a new QB most of the time will suck. There is no longer time to develop, and if they go a season or two without turning into Mahomes or Brady they get ostracized and put on the travel list. In todays world its now now now, the majority of teams arent even close to winning a ring so why bother with the now now now and just develop?

[@MarktheGreenLantern]

I would say maybe a few teams are true contenders The rest are mediocre or will never even sniff it I also agree that many of these qb should sit and learn the game.

[@ryanwhite9437]

People simply just do NOT have the same patience they used to. With quarterbacks, or damn near anything else in life.

[@kevinrichards481]

Ryanwhite, it's the computer age. Just push a button or two and change everything. Things don't work so fast with all parts of life and web's for sure.

[@kevinrichards481]

Qb's 😅

[@joeym5243]

I mean, how long do you need to give someone to know they're not gonna work out? I know teams should probably sit a QB the first year or two but not every team has that luxury

[@Phuzzi]

lol every rookie QB has been showing progress in the areas you want. People are crazy to throw in the towel on any of them already.

[@Fin-6914]

That transition between college and the pros is NOT easy. Takes time to adjust for sure. Being thrown right into the fire burns.

[@nightburrito9283]

"Get rid of So-and-So and trade for a first-round pick and get a QB." Every Armchair Analyst of their favorite team. It almost never works out - or you gotta be patient. Which is a quality no Armchair Analyst possesses.

[@dc7236]

I hate this mentality... It's like they have a mediocre QB... So they get rid of him to draft a newer younger mediocre qb

[@MFBloosh]

*cough cough* Bears *cough cough*

[@ellislegato2238]

@@MFBloosh 363 yards 2 pass touchdowns 1-2 ATS cough cough, both losses in one score games less than 6 cough cough... just know when the offensive line finally clicks I'll be back to troll all you doubters

[@justinland1208]

Well if you need a chair just for your arms, you got bigger problems.

[@johnalbone30192]

@@dc7236you have to keep trying or you end up in mediocrity purgatory. Having a QB on a rookie deal and being mediocre is much better than paying a qb 40+ mil per and being mediocre.

[@paulseverance9959]

Bryce Young on his Sam Darnold arch

[@genesisunderscoredenesis]

man i hope so i love a good comeback story

[@hoppy23]

Nope

[@5ean5ean22]

​@genesisunderscoredenesis ain't gonna happen. The dude is too short and cannot see the field.

[@rogerli5329]

@@5ean5ean22yeah honestly it kind of sucks and I feel really bad for him. He’s a super hard worker and that’s why he was able to be the top rated high school and college prospects by overcoming his physical limitations. He was very highly touted for his mental abilities, but he got thrown to the wolves as a rookie and it was too hard for even him to adjust to the nfl. Now his confidence is ruined and the one thing that makes him good, his mental abilities, are gone

[@M4570DON]

​@@5ean5ean22he was still short at Bama and didn't have that problem then. I don't think his issues are that straight forward.

[@cmarbormaster]

The only thing that's going to save the NFL right now is running The Rock. We need to bring back Superstar running backs. Everybody wants to play cover two shell. The only way to combat that is run the ball!!

[@TS6815]

Lions fan, I'm convinced DMo/Jahmyr are the difference between Goff being top 10 and bottom 10. No shade on Jared but run game is really what enables good QB play to begin with

[@justinland1208]

OLines are awful all over the league. Even run blocking which is much easier than pass protection seems beyond the talent level that exists on most lines.

[@1_underthesun]

I second this. It'll also have a trickle down affect of making defenses have to bring another player or two into the box, thus freeing up the secondary for receivers. Defenses just aren't scared of the run, knowing they can keep it in check with their D line, and everyone else can drop back into coverage. Look what the Packers did in week 2 when they could run. It meant week 3 the Titans schemed for stopping the run, and Malik was then able to throw the ball to fairly open receivers.

[@MFBloosh]

To be fair to Caleb, he's looked better every single week. Bo Nix, too. Daniels, too. I think one of the main things we need is patience. We're talking about rookie QBs struggling to make it to legendary status, but look at Peyton Manning for example. One of the worst rookie seasons a QB has ever had. So as a Bears fan, would I rather have went with the hot hand in Fields who was already established and had great chemistry with weapons like Kmet and Moore? It's easy to say yes to that. But that's only because we've grown so impatient and expect QBs, and other rookies to be fair, to come out and look like 10 year vets right away. So many other factors matter, too. Schemes, coaching, personnel, etc. I have a feeling that this last draft class will end up being a good one, but again, we have to be patient.

[@sunny3545]

Can't believe payton manning played football in 202015, ahead of his time really

[@leicstigers1]

I feel like people forget that Peyton was 11 TD/16 INT in his first 8 games. This seems normal.

[@Zexx4]

Even then, Peyton really shouldn't have been thrown out there that early, more than likely a lot of his health issues stem from that rookie season

[@Guy_Incognito1]

Set the rookie record 28 ints. 3-13 record. Turned it around incredibly fast, but Peyton was also considered a playoff choker his first 8 years until the Colts won it all in 2006-07.

[@GreenVinickey-z9x]

Manning also set the rookie record for touchdowns and yards. Not at all comparable to a joke like bryce young

[@MFBloosh]

Most INTs by a rookie QB ever, too. Even his 2nd season was the greatest. It took him 2-3 years to develop into the QB we know him as now.

[@johnlicciardello2389]

Being a QB back then was also much more difficult. They have changed all the rules to make it much easier to be a QB today.

[@Muffinman2nd]

Flacco started immediately... And got us to like 15 playoffs... And had about the best sb run of all time

[@dylangrantz8124]

Yep with the best defense in the league. That superbowl run was helped by amazing circus catches on every throw. Dude was certainly helped just like Lamar is certainly helped by an amazing supporting cast. Lamar continues to shit himself and Flacco had one year he didn't shit himself with a great defense. Odds are Lamar will continue to shit bimself. Giving the best big back in the league to a qb that can't beat single high or really run normal play action is throwing talent away. Henry deserves better

[@hhaste]

@@dylangrantz8124 Terrible take. Lamar has 3 perfect passer ratings, a playoff record, amongst many other things. Watch the 4 games before the AFC champ game then talk.. we all know the AFC game and the superbowl itself were fixed for the Chiefs and $wift. The NFL is a business and business was booming with the 300 million she brought into the league and massive ratings boost. Taylor Swift was _always_ going to be at the superbowl..

[@gs6618]

@@dylangrantz8124 Us Ravens fans see Flacco’s SB run through rose tinted windows. There’s no way we get to that SB never mind win it without Anquan Boldin. The amount of over thrown 3rd and long’s he pulled in whilst in double coverage is sadly never discussed. That man is an absolute legend.

[@NascarRacingFan5]

People are wayyyyy to impatient with rookie qbs. People are seem to forget that you used have a rookie qb sit a season or two to learn. Hell, Josh Allen didn’t look good until 2020 - YEAR 3

[@largeman1624]

It’s almost like they are young, inexperienced, and underdeveloped. Maybe franchises aren’t supposed to be immediately good when they completely reset and draft a new leader. Just a thought.

[@politicalsideshow]

Both Aaron Rogers and Jordan Love sat for THREE years. CJ Stroud and Joe Burrows are very very rare. NFL teams should train train train train the QB.

[@milehighboost5521]

But if you look back at Burrow it was probably bad to start him as a rookie with that terrible o line. He wouldn’t have torn his acl if he was sitting but I guess they didn’t really have another option either.

[@Will-fk2dk]

Stroud hasn't exactly been lighting it up this season. One decent game and 2 below average games

[@MarktheGreenLantern]

@@Will-fk2dkbecause they have game tape on him now

[@TheAYYOOcomment]

The biggest reason is the fact that they don’t have vets to up guide their journeys into the NFL.

[@charlesconner9044]

@@TheAYYOOcomment they'd rather play them to get microwave results. Sit these young QBs down for a season or two

[@WFM]

QB play across the league is down. Defenses are seriously locked in on quarterbacks now. I don’t think it’s ever been tougher to be a rookie qb

[@Pozzy51]

All theses KZbinrs advertising sports betting is doing the most damage to this country since celebrities started advertising crypto.

[@mariomcp]

I genuinely miss Big Ben, Brady, Manning, Rivers, Brees, etc. I wonder if that style of QB will ever make a comeback. Mahomes is obviously great and we still have good new QBs like CJ Stroud but I dunno man, there was just something about dudes slinging it that was so much fun. Still though, aside from Stroud it does feel like the latest crop of QBs just has not been it.

[@MarktheGreenLantern]

A true field general? I mean you have some qb that are true pocket passers but the game is just bad on every level

[@oddsavage]

Young shouldve sat for a year or two. They might have ruined that young man.

[@hhaste]

I think it will just give the next team he goes to a great deal. He'll most likely go for cheap because of this. We all saw what happened with Darnold and Mayfield after they left Carolina.

[@derrickbonsell]

Everyone wants to claim his height is an insurmountable disability but every team that competed to draft him knew this. Perhaps they're bad teams because they thought he would be great, but I think that's too simplistic.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

People keep forgetting Rome was not built in an Odunze

[@krustykrabpizza4328]

Jayden Daniels don't look that bad

[@korbiireiff]

That bad? He’s lookin like a DAWG

[@robbiedontmiss]

To be fair, he hasnt really played anybody besides the Bucs

[@redbeard5939]

Daniels looked funtional in two games, and good in one game. Two of those games were against teams that are looking to be bottom of the league this season. Now, I'm definitely not against Commanders fans setting themselves up for disappointment, but wisdom suggests that some more data is needed first.

[@redbeard5939]

Daniels looked funtional in two games, and good in one game. Two of those games were against teams that are looking to be bottom of the league this season. Now, I'm definitely not against Commanders fans setting themselves up for disappointment, but wisdom suggests that some more data is needed first.

[@nineomite]

There seems like more and more evidence that some, maybe even most good QBs really do need time to make mistakes and develop. Purdy is good yeah, but Purdy also played a LOT of college games on less than stellar teams. Jordan Love is good, but Love sat for years. Geno Smith was a lot better after a few years out of the spotlight. Kurt Warner. Hell, might even be the case for Sam Darnold this year. The list goes on. You shouldn't start a rookie, and it should be expected that they're bad if you do. You should set that expectations with your fans - I think the Patriots are the only ones taking the right approach there. Peyton Manning would've been traded after his first year with today's logic around developing QBs.

[@FourEyedFrenchman]

Young QBs aren't going to perform well when they're regularly tasked with single-handedly resurrecting terrible franchises that are dead because of off-field problems like front offices and ownership. Justin Fields cratered in Chicago because the hopes and dreams of the Bears franchise were riding entirely on him. Now that all that weight is off his back and Pittsburgh isn't asking him to do anything more than play keep away and not make any unforced errors, we're seeing a side to Justin Fields we couldn't see in Chicago. One of the hallmarks of inept management is high turnover.

[@nineomite]

Anthony Richardson is Trey Lance. Throws a beauty deep ball... and hasn't met a slant he couldn't fuck up. He just needs game time imo.

[@frostycactus7057]

All I’m hearing is that once Penix is the starter he’ll be the next Tom Brady cuz he was given time to develop 💪💪💪😤😤😤😤😤

[@daleftuprightatsoldierfield]

Caleb Williams has about doubled his passing yard total in every game. If this trend continues, he’ll obliterate the single game passing yards record tomorrow

[@tehbeernerd]

We all get angry about the Packers not having to worry about a QB for more than three decades, but there’s a reason for that. They actually develop their young QBs instead of throwing them into the pool and forcing them to swim.

[@ryanwhite9437]

Can we STOP throwing around the "generational talent" tag every single draft???

[@AboundedBoot]

Comparing Bryce Young to diesel fuel for an unleaded car is crazy 💀🤣

[@Krawllll]

You are comparing Nix to Brees.... really? The only 2 things these QBs have in common are the coach, and their age.

[@hhaste]

Bryce Young would be a better comparison to Brees.. both the same height :)

[@MFBloosh]

Also, most of us Bears fans definitely knew Fields was going to be good in Pittsburgh. That's why most of us wanted to keep him. We watched the defense give up 31 PPG through 14 games, an NFL record and a historically bad defense, yet Fields got scapegoated when he was the only reason the Bears were worth watching. Never did I think Soldier Field would chant the name of our QB in a positive manner, but they did for Fields. And what made getting rid of him even tougher was that our defense FINALLY got better the 2nd half of last season, and Fields/The Bears went 5-3 to finish out the season (should've been 7-1 if it wasn't for the defense giving up 2 double digit leads in the 4th against the Browns and Lions). Without missing those 5 games with his hand injury, Fields would've had 3000+ yards passing and 700-800 yards rushing on the season.

[@stephenlewis6922]

Maybe Teams should invest in a O line and a running back? Someone told me those two things help out young QBs...

[@davidtull452]

INSTANT GRATIFICATION!!! I’ve been a Redskins fan since 1991!! Which was the last time we were good. We deserve a great QB

[@kevinthetruckdriver353]

It's like with other sports leagues. Kids today within Pee-wee to high school. Athletes are not learning the fundamentals of their sport they play. Take football. Kids are not taught the fundamentals how to tackle while not getting hurt themselves. Now it's QB. Once offenses went pass happy & phrase out running. It opened up the weaknesses of QB's that's in the spotlight instead what would be hidden with a decent running game.

[@anthonystrangio]

You want to know the real issue? Not the lack of QB talent, but the lack of offensive line talent. No QB can develop without a good o line. The biggest evidence of this is the Bills, Josh Allen is far above everyone else in terms of QB production so far, and interestingly, the Bills also just happen to have the best o line play this season.

[@356z]

7 minutes and ONLY 1.5K views? Brandon should consider retiring

[@ryanschneider3700]

fun fact, they closed the Hyvee that Kurt Warner worked at and moved to the building next door. It’s a Slumberland now lol

[@HuKayers]

Thank the heavens that Jayden Daniels has rookie QB whisperer as an offensive coordinator

[@stabbystab2378]

Whatever happened to the rule of give rookies 3 years until they are fully judged (unless they are really really bad).

[@marcob1729]

Brandon, please fix the new curse wheel to appease the curse gods before we all pay the price

[@JamesKelleyJr]

Thank goodness a video that I can watch perna without the green bay guy...

[@FantasySportsZen]

Yes, they are. Except Daniels.

[@paulseverance9959]

Jayden Daniel’s is bonkers good

[@hirdx]

And Brock Purdy!

[@5ean5ean22]

As a Panthers Fan....Bryce Young cant play football in the NFL period and will probably be thr biggest bust in NFL history. People who say it's the organization's fault haven't seen one of our games. WE got 2 new WRs, 2 New Oline men, and he somehow got worse.

[@derrickbonsell]

I bet you were over the moon when he was drafted in the first place.

[@adamgreenspan4988]

1:03 I’d say 2018>2017. 2017 has Mahomes, but 2018 has Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

[@xp8969]

True, and Mahomes is the most over rated QB of all time, if the Chiefs had drafted Josh Allen they would have won the last 7 Super Bowls

[@ethangrey6801]

You guys are lucky Drake Maye isn’t in the league makin all the other rooks look bad 🥱🥱

[@hhaste]

Riiiight

[@SherefIRL]

Caleb Williams had 350+ and 2 TDs in his 3rd NFL start. Idk what more people want

[@yammt3148]

Lombardi or bust apparently.

[@Fazz-i7i]

I think a lot of people want caleb to be a bust because he presents himself as a rude immature person especially when he ignored stroud talking to him post game

[@TheChair2004]

He’s definitely arrogant and thinks he’s elite, a very hatable personality

[@Fazz-i7i]

@@TheChair2004 yes I think that’s why we call him bust so fast

[@topazyates]

19:11 Chilllazzzz Ghannta STuuperbOll

[@americantiger5041]

CJ has been playing really good defenses if you don’t count the colts

[@rjvicious3317]

Divisional games are always tight.

[@americantiger5041]

@@rjvicious3317 true. It was because our d can’t handle mobile qbs

[@wildtacocat]

I’m a Seahawks fan so the fireworks still going off back to back long breakaway TDs for DK one 56 and one 71 yard so it’s fine up here in the Pacific Northwest

[@shadowperson779]

What do you expect when you throw rookie QB's to the wolves? If you want your young QB to succeed at the NFL level, you sit him for a year or two behind a veteran and let him learn.

[@drewmagnet]

We're in twenty twenty four (2024), not twenty aught twenty four (20024), FFS Perna!

[@nicks2253]

Perna. I already signed up for underdog with your code years ago. But I'd like my sign up to contribute to you getting your bag. Any way I can do that? Is there a code for returning customers?

[@jacobleroux96]

Higher and higher expectations with less and less preseason/off season work

[@AAVVVAAADDAAAKAAADAVRAAA]

No it's the coach the sceme and them having to change the way they play... plus if you have no blocks you can't do shit

[@gregorysextro1730]

Did you say Peyton Manning left after the end of the 202015 season? 😂😂😂

[@hawk7780]

Young QB now are with the wrong coaches. Jackson is not that good because he doesn't have the coach to teach him correctly like Patty H. These youn QBs had Andy the prefessor Reid they would be way better. Stafford is another example good coaching win a Super Bowl.

[@charlesburroughs9770]

The Blame for the Lousy Young QB Play (Lousy Team Play Also) is Squarely on Roger Goddell and NFLPA!!! They should have left the 16 Game Season alone, and Extended Training Camps from 4 weeks to 6 weeks and Left the 4 Game Preseason alone!!! Since they Sissified and Shortened Training Camps/Preseason throughout the NFL...There has been Crappy Play All Around the League...Even the Big Names are not Producing like they used to!!! Too Little Actual Contact (during training camps) for the Players, it's hard to put the best Teams together when you Can't Actually Evaluate the Players and their Cohesion to Function Together as a Team...This has also led to more Players getting Injured More Frequently and Easier than Before!!!

[@jynn698]

i think college defense have become terrible and young qbs come in and are now multiple steps behind. Caleb vs colts is more on the colts then caleb...lmao. colts 31st in defense.

[@johnalbone30192]

They were patient with Allen. Allen missed games his rookie year. They then limited his pass attempts in year 2 while surrounding him with a good Defense and better WR than he had his rookie year signing John Briwn and Cole beasly. Then his 3rd year they cut him loose. He went from 200 something attempts to 500-600 attempts.

[@EricDaMAJ]

People talk about Josh Allen like he’s a football god. And he is - NOW. (Though he’ll probably screw up again for the haters to come out of the woodwork and call him “overrated” just once more.) But his first year was a near disaster. He only kept his job because he got contrasted with the terrible (and unlucky) Nathan Peterman. What made him the football god he is today is his raw athleticism, his coachability (an underrated attribute), and good coaching. I’m not sure he’d even be a backup today otherwise.

[@plannein]

Watch Chase Daniel's breakdown on Bo Nix's most recent game. He's not doing as bad as it seems.

[@qwicxs]

If Denver looses the narrative will be, the sky is falling. If they win everyone will start asking if Denver is a playoff team. I see Denver winning 6 games this year. It’s not Bo’s fault. It’s the weapons we put around Bo.

[@poststalone1496]

Drafting a QB is a roll of the dice. For every CJ Stroud there's 6-10 Bryce Young. Talking heads calling guys generational talents when they've 1-2 solid seasons in college doesn't help quell the expectations.

[@robertdanyus6836]

With the money they payThese young quarterbacks nowadays, they are thrust Into starting roles, which they are not ready fo r .they should be sitting behind a competent older quarterback. However, those quarterbacks don't exist anymore Either.

[@Miked1332]

14:03 He's going to end up like Aaron Rodgers. Regularly puts up insane stats and the times he has "pedestrian" numbers that are still incredibly good numbers for a normal QB, but lower for himself, people will say "Is Daniels washed up? Should the Commanders think about trading Daniels? Can he recover from his poor showing of ONLY 3TD's, 1 INT and a "measly" 300 passing yards?" You know it's true... 😂😂

[@matthew.m.stevick]

two high expectations by angry drunk fans. “Let Them Cook”. 👨‍🍳 🏈

[@Matt-oq4jq]

These underwhelming numbers would have been completely unremarkable, if not mediocre, in the NFL 20-25 years ago. There used to be an awful lot of “field generals” whose primary statistical contributions were standing behind the center and handing the ball off, and if we’re entering an era of offensive backsliding then we might just have to re-adjust to pretending guys like Doug Flutie are good

[@evanpetersen4016]

I think Bo Nix will be good within a few years but Caleb williams and Bryce look fuckin starstruck out there

[@brandon3096]

I lowkey think Madden has skewed the general perception of what you can expect from rookie QBs. People act like 25 is old (it’s not) and the best way to build a Super Bowl winning roster is to do it on a QB on a rookie contract (it isn’t). Just not how the NFL operates and we see that year in and year out. But where DO we see those two philosophies pan out? Madden 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MoodyFoody-fb9xe]

Caleb Williams is the best rookie QB we've ever seen. He's taking names and kissing ass cheeks every game. Just wait and see when he's hosting the Lombardi this year 🐻

[@TopBobsCasinoSecrets777]

The Dalton Scale sounds like the football equivalent of the Mendoza Line 🏈 ⚾

[@briangoddard3159]

Of the five undefeated teams, three are quarterbacked by players who were drafted high and then cut because their team decided they were busts. KOC is exactly right here, we are too quick to blame young players and let them fail. I've heard of teams quoting the whole "trust the process" while tanking to draft their next prospect, but far less often do I hear about trusting the process of working with young players and accepting that they'll take some time to improve. Anyways, long story short, I'm excited to see which well-coached team picks up Williams after Chicago decides it's his fault their losing. He'll probably win a super bowl for whichever team that is...

[@didgruntleddansnyderfan]

There's a year delay on some of this as well. After what Stroud did last year, it was not a particularly genius take that he'd probably come down a little in Year Two. You have an army of football nerds in the NFL who spend all offseason looking at your rookie tape and figuring out how to stop you if you're as good as he was. That's one of the reasons you can't really evaluate QBs until after a few seasons. Can he adapt to all that anal probing and still be good? And you don't know that before about Year Three. It'll be the same with Daniels if he keeps going too. Second year is when you start really learning who they are in the NFL to any degree.

[@Foff317]

Let quarterbacks sit again look at mahomes and , love they sat and seem pretty good, but what do I know

[@blackAngelProductions]

In some cases probably not it's just that these teams need to stop freaking playing these quarterbacks immediately

[@jaalsburg]

Lawrence and Love seemed the biggest payout risks lately. Time will tell and please to regress Goff.

[@bmac4]

Let me put it this way: The only starting QB under 35 in the league right now to win a Super Bowl is Pat Mahomes (not counting Jacoby Brissett because his ring was as a 3rd stringer and he's usually a spot starter with a known limited ceiling). Twelve guys are making as much or even more money than Mahomes who haven't won it all yet. People are more rabid for their teams to have an elite QB than ever and the league is in this weird watershed moment where almost all the old guard are gone and all the studs of today have yet to accomplish anything which makes people's patience wear even thinner in a "what have you done for me lately" league.

[@paulweeldreyer7457]

I live in Littleton and I've always been a Nix fan so maybe I'm biased, but I think that maybe some NFL fans don't realize how good Nix is with his legs. If Nix can use his legs and stay healthy doing so, I think Nix can be a really good starter, even without having a huge arm. The comparison to Brees works, but Nix is much mobile. Jayden Daniels is awesome, I've loved his skill set going back to his ASU days. I never understood that attitude that Caleb Williams is a can't miss prospect. Williams will make some splash plays, but people ignore all the bad turnovers. Certainly the idea that Williams was clearly the #1 QB prospect in this last draft never made any sense.

[@kevinc1891]

That first clip is why I lost faith, as a Colts fan, in AR. The goal line floating INT didn't help. I got ripped for wanting to start Flacco and wanting AR to learn. I knew Pittman's growth would be stunted by AR. Wasting and probably pissing off PRIME JT. We're a playoff team++ with a decent QB... aka Flacco

[@iels7346]

Every now and then you get a Cam Newton, Andrew Luck or CJ Stroud like rookie season. Thats shouldn't be the bar for every QB. As a Bears fan, Ive watched the Green Bay system work year over year. Have your offensive guru head coach, draft a QB, sit him for at least a year, and let him get to know the system inside and out before stepping foot on the field. Tom Brady just said the other week, this should be the preferred order of operations for most QBs. Even if it's sitting behind an Andy Dalton in Carolina. Figure out the NFL while the team builds for a year or two. As far as Caleb Williams, he had a rough first 10 quarters. He did some promising things in the 2nd half of the Colts game. 33/52 360 2tds and 2int is still like a top 5 statline for a Bears QB since like, Cutler probably. He scored the 2 tds in the 4th, made it a one score game with 3 minutes and change left. If not for an incompetent coach who burned 2 timeouts early in the half, he may have had a chance to get the ball back. He'll be on his 2nd coach next year, their weapons are locked up for a few years if they can figure out a left tackle, center snd a right guard who aren't buns.

[@tonycarr8757]

Brandon “I say “Aught” for years like 2023 even though that means 20(0)23 instead of just saying it for years like 2003 where it actually works (20 aught 3)” Perna I must be the only person this bothers I’m so sorry I had to get this off my chest Pernmeister please forgive me

[@chasingsafety796]

I love the Blackledge cutscene and highlighted name in the draft list. Go Chiefs!

[@mandelharvey3429]

I oftentimes don't see NFL talent in the high draft picks. Whenever I watch college football the guys with big stats are standing in a clean pocket throwing to NFL receivers and get missing under any pressure. The top teams with the top stat QB spend the season just knocking off overmatched cupcakes. Bo nix for example had impressive stats in what was effectively seven on air drills. Sure the destroyed Colorado. Even in that game I was way more impressed by the other guy who had no choice but to operate under pressure with well covered receivers. Why i want to see kellen mond who faced Alabama and Georgia four times in college over Zach wilson who got waxed by coastal Carolina.

[@nateharman8260]

As a Washington fan it’s encouraging how JD5 has been playing. I’m more than willing to be patient and build a team around him to compete in a few years. I think he’ll be very good at a minimum by then

[@rumpuvpigskin9566]

Seeing the KO clip in here is great, because I sometimes wonder if people outside our team get to hear it. It’s 100% true and more coaches/GMs/Owners need to hear it. Much as I can’t stand the Packers’ constant QB success, I have to admit there’s more to it than blind luck. It’s the strong support from the coaching/administrative staff that gets the QBs where they want and need to be.

[@redsixx669]

They all still have potential Except bryce young, im sorry but i dont understand him, hes tiny, he doesnt make up for it the way kyler does, just looks like a slow high school kid, and he made the panthers look absolutely dysfunctional, the fact they put up 30 immediately after switching away tells me hes MAYBE a backup if that

[@EncinoDude]

Still way to early to stick Jordan Love with the Allen’s and Jackson’s of the league. He played one season and so far this season Malik Willis is playing just as good as Lobe did last year on the same team

[@dc7236]

04'Big Ben seemed like an anomaly. Then the 2010's is where it really went up a notch. Cam: set like every rookie PASSING record and rushing too Andy Dalton:was good right out the gate too and lead his team to playoffs Then the very next year: RGIII, russel wilson and Andrew Luck all played at a high level... Then Colin Kaepernick lead the niners to the superbowl And the craze for young QB's was at peak level!! That has resulted in soooo so many young qbs being thrown to the wolves before they should have. Theres no more patience given to young 22 year old qbs anymore. And there most(quote on quote) busts than ever before!

[@johnlandrigan6578]

young quarterbacks go to teams with high draft picks which means they were already bad the previous year. many teams are average so a play or 2 can swing any game and has this year. The weird thing to me is with so many penalties being called, some fans want even more penalties called. Personally I am just glad when a play is run without the flags flying. Justin Fields is currently the best QB playing who was drafted in last 4 years.