The +1/-2, biking to a suburban hardware store challenge, in Barcelona!

[@Shifter_Cycling]

Very cool to see! Thanks so much for doing this. The urban areas of Barcelona look really amazing for bikes, not just in the bike infrastructure, but in the lively street life and the priority put on humans rather than automobiles. I think we can learn a lot from your city, especially those of us in North America. Great video!

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Thank you for your kind words. And thank you for everything you do with your channel.

[@betula2137]

I was just thinking that it would be fun and interesting for more cycling channels to play +1/-2 or games like it! Great that it's catching on, and the community is uniting in finding commonalities and differences across the world. Maybe a website could be dedicated to +1/-2 and anyone can participate to rank their own cities or locations, and everything can be displayed on a big fancy colour-coded map...!

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@betula2137 There was someone on some Reddit thread who had filmed themselves going to the hardware store in Oslo(?) but didn't know how to edit the video. I also think it would be fun to watch that person's ride (and many others' around the world!).

[@buddy1155]

Nikki Abridged also did the +1/-2 challenge on her channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5y1nXaQpsmiac0

[@dougwedel9484]

Matt Lowne Too did the game in the UK as well!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWO5dICVh7qdg6s

[@ex0stasis72]

That scoring was brutal! I'd love to live in a city with bike infrastructure like that. It's not as good as the Netherlands, but it's better than anything we have in North America.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

That's true, in the end the score is a little bit arbitrary and we paid a lot of attention to details. Having said this, I find Barcelona similar to bike as Washington DC, where we lived for a year (and both BCN and DC infinitely better than Los Angeles, where we lived for a few years!)

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Being brutal on imperfections is how you get there. The roads don't mind, only the people that build them imperfect.

[@markovermeer1394]

The game is really nice to discuss the real situation in a city, however totally biased: as Shifter and NJB both used very different points, as you did. Glad to see that Barcelona has so many bike-paths now... the total inconsistency of them will decrease once the city designers are allowed to use more street space for bikes. I would add -2 for having too many traffic lights, and +20 for being such a pleasant, dense human city.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

I'd agree with all of that!

[@willekevanderham5326]

I would -2 for the bike path being on the left of cars going the same direction and again for the bike path in the middle (or left of cars) on the roundabout. Feels very dangerous to me as a Dutch cyclist.

[@jordigomezsuay]

@@willekevanderham5326 I'm curious why? In Barcelona my sensation is the opposite. If you're on the left, car drivers see you directly, not through the mirror. And inside the roundabout there's no cars turning towards the bike lane.

[@willekevanderham5326]

@@jordigomezsuay Drivers expect slower traffic on their right (in right driving countries like Spain) and being on the other side will make for one kind of dangerous when getting to street crossings and at the end of the cyclepath. And when you have to enter the roundabout and leave it, you will have to cross the car lane both times, out of a position from which you can not oversee the traffic as well. I have been on plenty of Dutch two way cycle paths on the left of the cars and when they end and you have to cross traffic to continue on the right you have to be extra carefull.

[@jordigomezsuay]

@@willekevanderham5326 Mmmmmhhhhh I'm trying and I cannot think of places in Barcelona where "left goes quicker" and left turn is allowed and there's a left bike lane. Actually the left turn alone already makes it a mess for the cars even without bikes and there's very few streets like that. About the roundabout, indeed you cross more car lanes going on the outside than the inside. And the ones you cross are the ones turning out of the roundabout, which can take you more by surprise than the ones inside.

[@matthewconstantine5015]

Oh my gosh. Seeing that drives home again how pathetic cycling infrastructure is in the States. Washington DC has celebrated so loudly its movement toward being bike friendly, but after years & years, we don't have a fraction of what you just showed.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

We actually lived in D.C. for a year (and biked regularly). It has a few nice features, like the Rock Creek path. But crossing the city was always an exercise in figuring out which bike lanes got you how far and even then I feel like I came into contact/conflict with cars far more often than I ever do here.

[@matthewconstantine5015]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether There was some (SOME!) progress made during the pandemic, with a few protected paths being expanded and (gasp!) connected. But this has been far, far too uncommon. Every little thing that gets done is sung about in the press like it was moving a mountain, yet we keep having little kids hit & killed by speeding motorists. The same people who just appeared on the news to say how amazing it was that they extended a bike path ONE extra block wring their hands and ask, "what can be done?" about the deaths. And the local news keeps blaming the children & cyclists for drivers hitting them.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@matthewconstantine5015 That is really maddening. I (Anna) felt like Washington D.C. was absolutely amazing for bicycles (after five years in Los Angeles). What drove me nuts was when bike lanes ended suddenly right before a busy intersection; as Jedidjah said, I definitely planned my commutes around not catching any of those. But I feel like there is a similar sentiment here, in that many folks (and media and organizations) oppose all these changes and think that pedestrians killed or injured by motorists are somehow an unchangeable, permanent state of the world. And definitely they blame cyclists for anything that may happen to us. Hopefully this changes soon in both cities.

[@rolandcombes]

I lived in D.C. from 1980 to 2003 and even cycled in the AIDS Ride from North Carolina to D.C. Back then, I thought D.C. had pretty decent bicycle paths and regularly cycled to my workplaces in Alexandria and Silver Spring. Now having lived in the Netherlands the last 10 years or so, I see how terrible and dangerous it actually was. Even when I took the scenic Rock Creek Parkway, I was often only a few inches away from cars passing me at more than 60 kmh. Even the cycling paths that had no cars were in such bad shape and had so many pedestrians that I'd often have to go back to the road to cycle at speed. Recent videos and reports from my cycling friends in D.C. show that not much has changed and too many have lost close friends to cycling accidents.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@rolandcombes everyone's perspective changes after experiencing the Netherlands, and we all notice how much work there is left to do in our cities!

[@georgekarnezis4311]

Wow negative 22 is wayyy to low. Your city is amazing.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

100% agree that Barcelona is amazing! The scoring is a bit arbitrary in the end, and just an excuse to talk about stuff we noticed. I promise that we do appreciate what we have.

[@shaunmckenzie5509]

It'd be -100 if they came to my city. Barcelona is leagues ahead

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@shaunmckenzie5509 What is your city? We lived in Los Angeles, CA, so we do know how it is to live in car-centric hell. But also we see no reason to aim for the best :-) In the end, the +1/-2 system is arbitrary but it was a fun excuse to go on a ride and pay lots of attention to every tiny detail!

[@matt-66]

Sooo many traffic lights! But at the same time, this shows very clearly that NYC is out of excuses. And things are changing there little by little, but once you get outside downtown/midtown Manhattan, bicycle infrastructure becomes much more sporadic.

[@isaac-mihaiperianu6425]

Great video! I wonder if I should try this for Bucharest, Romania but I guess the result will be just full of - and no + sadly. The pedestrian/bike infrastructure in Barcelona while is not perfect, it is centuries better than what we have in Romania. Our cities are car centric :(

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Oof. I'm sorry to hear that. For what it's worth most of this infrastructure is very new here. It's amazing how quickly the situation has changed in the last few years. I think Barcelona is a good example of how it can be (relatively) easy to make a huge impact in a short amount of time. Good luck in Bucharest!!

[@yannazosmer751]

Exactly my thoughts watching this video. Are there even enough bike lanes for a video here? :D

[@mancavestudios8955]

This city has such delicate detail. It almost feels imaginary. I am questioning my intention to move to the Netherlands now. lol

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Good luck wherever you end up choosing to move!

[@vincenzodigrande2070]

+1 to the Dutch for not having a word for being 'doored' despite such high numbers of cyclists. Let's hope we can keep it that way in the Catalan language as well! There are just not many places where you will get doored in the Netherlands. Great pronunciations in Dutch guys!

[@carfreeneoliberalgeorgisty5102]

I feel like you're being way too harsh on Barcelona here. Coming from North America this cycling trail is a dream come true.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

In the end the +1/-2 score is an arbitrary scale, but the exercise of thinking how one would like to see the world around them is nevertheless interesting!

[@UrbaneOracle]

Wow so much fabulous bike infrastructure! It's like I stumbled into a parallel universe from the car-centric USA.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Thank you! The truth is, it has developed quite quickly! Only 10 years ago this city was not bike-friendly at all. We hope there is some hope for the US! I (Anna) lived 6 years there and came back home radicalized about the importance of proper transportation infrastructure.

[@joaotfs353]

Fantastic. Barcelona is making a real effort to make city more livable. the scores given seemed very personal in some cases, especially in the case of women, sometimes they didn't even have to do with infrastructure for bicycles. in addition I think the final score does not represent the effort the city has made, this is due to the human nature of complaining more than praising. but just for the record... if this game were played in Portugal the average score in any city would be -200, in Porto in particular it would be -1000 😥

[@frankhooper7871]

At 8:25 I'd give minus one for each of the red sticks LOL - we have had similar placed on some of our roads in Ipswich (UK) and it always *feels* like you're going to catch your pedal or handlebar on them - I do, however, love your low-lying lumps shown on earlier lanes. And watching this has certainly put Barcelona on my bucket list of places to visit - time to start studying a bit of Catalan - aunque estoy seguro que mi inglés y español servirían.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

You will definitely be able to navigate the city with English and Spanish only, but the locals definitely appreciate it if you try some Catalan, at least "bon dia" or "adéu" :-) Also, the red sticks are not tall enough to catch a handlebar, but I definitely rode far enough from them to not bump with my pedal either; it's true it sometimes looks like they're too close (especially because the lane is so narrow).

[@squidcaps4308]

Some of those didn't need -2 but it is not far since i think i would've given that much minus for the overall infra. It is ok but there are weird kinks in the way, literally and figuratively.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

We were definitely being picky. This wasn't a scientific study but just a way to show what it's like to bike here.

[@fanjan7527]

The great thing about compact cities (and not so compact cities) is that there are decades of experience available via the Netherlands. City planners do not have to re-invent the wheel. I'd say it is a great time for city planners from the Netherlands to branch out to other countries, or the Netherlands offering consultation to other cities in other countries so that biking can become just a means of transport, not biking. Barcelona, the city I plan on moving to 2022...COVID dependant.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Bike lanes being boring and safe is a bonus +10 at least. Very enjoyable video for the progress and you.

[@eduarauga]

My commute in Mexico City= -150

[@balamstudios]

That is too generous. Im from the edomex, Id say -300 and suicide attempt

[@eduarauga]

@@balamstudios mis respetos por andar en bici en esas tierras olvidadas por dios

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@eduarauga @balamstudios ¡Ya os admiro por seguir yendo en bici a pesar de la falta de infrastructura! ¿Por qué no os animáis a filmar un +1/-2? ¡Gracias por vuestros comentarios!

[@KootFloris]

Fun, great, but some +1 are about Barcelona culture, not about biking friendliness. Also +1 for a cargo bike. Mmm. Try that in Amsterdam and you'd be at +25 soon. Also I love to see the cycling along terrases, but that's only possible as long as the biking culture isn't dominating. Like in NL there are many, no walking only shopping and café areas. But this video is totally worth sharing with Barcelona city council. Very educational, and it may help some of the civil servants go learn from Not Just Bikes. :)

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

We definitely scored +1 for things we like. I (Anna) would also give a +1 for every dog and small human we pass by :-)

[@KootFloris]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether Well, I foresee many videos of such rides, with very creative point systems, and someone then watching them all with a unified point system, on which others will then comment in their own videos. In short, big mess, but big win for biking culture thinking! ;)

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Hey! Going to be in Girona for a few months. We should collab on a Barcelona vid!

[@wietsepot1504]

I think it's been almost 10 years since my last visit to Barcelona and the cycling infrastructure seems much improved since then. Very nice to see steps are being taken. The Netherlands didn't get their biking structure overnight. These things take time. Having recently moved from NL to Melbourne has made me much more appreciative for anything resembling decent cycling infrastructure.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

We definitely don't expect any overnight magic. In fact, so much has improved during the six years I (Anna) lived abroad! We're excited to see how Barcelona is transforming into a much more human-centric city.

[@HollandHiking]

Thank you for sharing. Seeing this from a Dutch perspective, I think the score is very optimistic. Far to many traffic lights and all those dangerous obstacles (poles) on the bike lanes and the very narrow bike lanes, sometimes stealing the space for pedestrians. But is is a start and better than nothing. If Barcelona continues the good work, it will get better hopefully.

[@blaster112]

the car at 5.11 has a pretty poor turn overall. His view is largely blocked by the plants and the scooters. Plus due to a relatively tight turn he can't really see bicycles until he is quite far in the turn. I think a bit more separation between the bike lane and the car here would have done better. Or remove the plants and shorten the scooter parking a little to clear up the view in the mirrors. Ultimately its still a driver error, but one that could be easier to avoid with some slight tweaks in the bikelane or parking.

[@jordigomezsuay]

Non-expert from Barcelona with some personal opinions: 0:22 +1 for the mixed use. When I saw the video in Amsterdam and thought how would it look in Barcelona, my first thought was that hardware stores for small stuff are reachable on foot. 3:41 +1 for continuous improvement. 15 years ago that bike lane was mixed with pedestrians and it was the best in the city. Now it's rebuilt because of better security standards. In general Barcelona's bike infraestructure is a big trial and error that doesn't stick too much with bad decisions. 5:07 -2 for lesson not learnt. Pedestrians cross the bicycle lane without visibility because of parked cars, and that already caused one famous deathly accident (Muriel Casals) 10:15 I disagree with the -2 on the signal. But so far those signals are exceptions and it's hard to go from A to B through the safest route if you don't know well the streets in advance with all its tricks, so that's a different -2.

[@robeleco1]

Would be great if all the channels that will follow would only give points for bike infrastructure. As I think that was the main goal for Not Jut Bikes and Shifter. Giving points for buildings and other non-infrastructure things is a bit silly. It deviates from the original idea and also blurs the actual infrastructure experience.

[@vhanda]

This was fun to watch. I'm so happy to see Barcelona specific content. I didn't actually know about the "shortcut" when reaching plaza espana, I normally go on the sidewalk of the roundabout with the pedestrians. It's nice to learn about this alternative. Also, you mentioned that the bicycle lane in Gran Via is going to be redone, is there somewhere I can read about that? I live on that street.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Glad you enjoyed it! We also missed the detour the first few times biking through there and ended up on the sidewalk walking our bike between all the tourists. The new bike lanes and upgrades were just announced last week. Here it is in English: ajuntament.barcelona.cat/bicicleta/en/noticia/cyclable-network-set-to-grow-with-an-additional-32-6-kilometres-of-bike-lanes_1108633 and a map of what they plan on doing in the next two years: twitter.com/BCN_Mobilitat/status/1448250930017751041/photo/2

[@esgee3829]

i so wish bicing were open to non residents. the lanes looked amazing and cars usually fairly chill around bikes. thusly, as a pedestrian, i give -2 for all the dog S@*# especially when it hasn't rained. there seem to be nearly no strays in barcelona, so the excrement is all due to derelict dog owners. when i visit barcelona, i pray for rain (to wash away the ...). the cultural differences in the scoring is hilarious to me. big ups to ferias all over spain!

[@alainterieur4837]

Wow, that is some really good bike infrastructure! My home country of Switzerland, which is supposedly "bike-friendly", is decades away from that! And my home town even more so. There's barely any bike infrastructure, and when there is some, they're usually disconnected and badly implemented. There is currently only one bike lane in the entire city that is separated from the road, all the others are just painted bicycle gutters. But fortunately there's been plenty of improvements in many cities around the country, just not in my home town for the moment sadly

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

It always starts with the big cities. Barcelona is improving so much, yet my (Anna's) hometown, only 35 km away, is still very much behind.

[@yveshipstermeister8152]

Super cool videos ! Barcelona really looks great ! In case that helps, in French it's "emportiérage" 😉

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

That is a cool word! Everything sounds better in French.

[@yveshipstermeister8152]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether 😅 thanks maybe you should try to make a word and popularize in catalan ;)

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@yveshipstermeister8152 I don't think I'm quite there in terms of influencer-ness, but someone in the comments suggested "menjar-se una porta" (to eat a door), which is pretty much how I would call it if I was speaking informally. ("Menjar" is the same word in French, isn't it?)

[@yveshipstermeister8152]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether actually yeah It's "manger" to eat, and informally we can also say : se manger une porte 😆

[@therealdutchidiot]

Why was the cycle lane on the inside of the roundabout? That just creates more points of conflict.

[@carfreeneoliberalgeorgisty5102]

Can you do one on cycling in Sevilla? I've heard that it is the best Spanish city for cycling.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Neither of us has actually ever been to Sevilla, so I guess you just gave us an excuse to travel there (and also homework) :-)

[@allws9683]

+1/-2 goes around.. Here a 11km version in a rural area in eastern Netherlands..

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Can you post the link please? We'd love to watch it!

[@jackbates7467]

Love that this challenge is spreading.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

It is a fun challenge to do!

[@vincenzodigrande2070]

What occurred to me is that there have been so many efforts made, but it lacks a certain consistency. It will make things safer if it was done consistent, which is very effective in removing the factor of doubt. Props for making efforts to putting up bike lanes though!

[@JonitoFischer]

Barcelona infrastructure for bikes is really good, I challenge you to do the same in l'Hospitalet de Llobregat... Even el Prat de Llobregat has better cycling support (I usually go to the beach riding a bike). The bike lane in Gran Via sucks, you have to be super careful as people do not realize there is a bike lane on the sidewalk.

[@zhengg7580]

So cool! Also, as you mentioned in the video, could you at some point do a video about Vila de Gracia? I'm super interested in its history and layout, and have started reading novels like In Diamond Square :)

[@TransportSimulatorNationTSN]

here in America it would be -100 🤣

[@idromano]

7:29 chicanes like that are a good thing, in some cases, because it forces you to slow down and give priority to crossing pedestrians and such. Not sure if it applies there but ok

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

I agree, there is a place for them, especially if the intersection design was…different (topic for a future video maybe). In this case, however, crossing pedestrians will always have a red light when bicycles have a green, and the school has extra barriers protecting the sidewalk so that's not it either. I'll see if I can find the explanation in a city planning document somewhere!

[@idromano]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether looking forward to it! thank you for being accessible and for making these videos!

[@jordigomezsuay]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether I thought the chicanes are for the cars to cross the bike lane at an angle so they see the cyclists directly instead of through the mirror. I you look Consell de Cent between Diagonal and Meridiana you'll notice the chicanes are only at the corners where cars turn towards the bike lane.

[@hamzaaqiqi5573]

Thinking of moving to Barca from amsterdam but was indeed afraid of the cycling infra. But im happy to have seen your video. Its not bad at all! I could make it work and glad to hear the city is working on stuff! Thanks for the video ❤️

[@GabrieLight]

It's pathetic to see you can't cope with this, maybe you need to cycling the world first.

[@sachamm]

A lot of stopping! Would have been beautiful as a tourist, but frustrating if you're trying to get somewhere.

[@m.l.861]

Big hearts and thumbs up and subscription for the antifascist scarf !!! 🟥⬛

[@Pyltje03]

Nice video. You are so right that iT is not needed to ride to most hardware stores....also here in the netherlands many are at Walk distance. So +20 for All cities Where you Can Walk

[@ARBUZIK.dudkin]

I’m surprised that for the entirety of the way you didn’t need even once to merge onto a road. +10 for that

[@lexrue873]

Genial el vídeo!!! Tanmateix... +1 per un carril bici en vorera? Esperava un -2 per cada 100m de Gran Via! Aquí m'heu matat 😅😅

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

A mi (Anna) m'agraden molt perquè els trobo molt més protegits que a la calçada, sobretot quan la protecció a la calçada són aquestes "boies" de goma que els cotxes i motos i camions creuen tota l'estona. Si tots els carrils bici estiguessin protegits amb pals metàl·lics com els de davant de Les Arenes, sens dubte millor a la calçada. Gràcies pel teu comentari!

[@lexrue873]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether Certament! Però sap greu que els CB es facin en detriment del peató i no del cotxe (i que, com a Gran Via, a part, estiguin molt mal executats i no puguis circular amb la fluidesa dels vehicles a motor, sino amb obstacles a cada intersecció)

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@lexrue873 Hi estic d'acord!

[@yannisl8259]

Ojalá en Madrid estuviese tan bien No se catalán pero en castellano diríamos portazo

[@Seathal]

En Català es diu "Imbècil que no mira el retrovisor abans de obrir la porta". Posar-lis nom es legitimar-los.

[@MarcLesan]

12:00 Jo en diria "portejat" o "portejada". Portejada també sona a la la barreja de porta i plantofada. Déu vos guard

[@jelle8071]

its seems so unconnected, when are bikelanes on the right or left side?

[@michaelnajera7958]

Thanks, maybe do one in Sevilla?

[@saranbhatia8809]

Cool assessment and commentary!!

[@kevbarnes8459]

Came from not just bikes

[@LoveToday8]

Love your shirt

[@HomerIncognito]

The infrastructure is generally pretty good. I'd like to visit Barcelona one day and I'll be sure to try cycling there too.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

It is overall nice. It has improved so much in the last few years while I (Anna) was living abroad, that when I came back it was almost unrecognizable!

[@MeatNinja]

Looks messy, but still great compared to Calgary!

[@xxTheminemanxx]

La veritat es que no sabria com dir " to get doored" en català però suposo que dir menjar-se una porta seria potser la traducció més adient?

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Sí, sembla la traducció més natural. Gràcies!

[@Seathal]

From Barcelona here. I know this is in good's spirits but the scoring and many of the observations were obnoxious. A good city keep everyone mildly annoyed, never anyone discriminated. We cannot get rid of the car and instead have bike highways everywhere specially so when most bikers are also assholes and use pedestrian infrastructure without police batting an eye. The city is first and foremost for pedestrians and bikes and escooters should be second class. You cannot ask for "more better stronger" before teaching people how to use current infrastructure properly and making good management of it. Most of the "Tactical urbanism" the current mayorship implemented is badly and hastly thought and thrown in the city, destroying its visual appeal, and severely underused because it's placed for political, not social, effect. Many of the bikelines too. Old cars are increasingly being banned from downtown, the authorities pushing working class citizens to spend 30k on a electric car because no alternatives better train infrastructure is being worked on, public transport gets more and more expensive as the city inequality grows more extreme. There's a push for electrification yet barely any public electric infrastructure exists within the city itself, etc... Barcelona goes above and beyond to accommodate bikers yet nobody seems to be satisfied at all and traffic in the poorer access areas is getting worse because of the posher neighbors like Gracia or Eixample closing down their streets to traffic. Where do you think upgoing traffic from Gran de Gràcia is being rerouted? Maragall and Fabra i Puig, both bordering poor neighbourhoods are getting twice the traffic than before. This current trend is classist and mismanaged and asking for "more" won't solve it.

[@tedbellWRV]

Love your channel - and the offering of the perspective of both a man and a woman adds a lot! My wife and I ride our bikes extensively, and we very much applaud the viewpoints your provide. We are seeing many well-intentioned efforts by cities to improve bicycle infrastructure here in North America. Some of the "new" infrastructure works well, some not so well. Unfortunately, our traffic engineers in the U.S (I was one of them for many years!) have failed us. Although well intentioned too, architects, landscape architects and urban planners in the U.S. have not done any better. We are in desperate need for our universities in North America to develop education and training programs for modern transportation for our cities, a "Complete Streets" type approach, with standards that are safe and work for all right of way users. In the dark void of knowledge, your channel is a shining light.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Thank you for your kind words.

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

Thank you for your kind comment! (this is the other half of this channel, I also wanted to thank you personally). Hopefully North America will start to get less car-centric, but there is so, so much work to do in some cities and areas. Also thank you for the honesty of outing yourself as a former traffic engineer; I hope your kindness translated into human-centric improvements in your city or town.

[@tedbellWRV]

@@BikingBarcelonaTogether Haha, I like to think I am more of a "reformed" traffic engineer, (a la Charles Marohn of Strong Towns). I spent the last 25 years of my career working in transportation in the field of waterborne transportation - as in ferries. Where the pedestrian and bicycle modes are super important. Then I retired as my wife and I downsized to one vehicle and ride our bikes. After thousands and thousands of miles (kilometers) riding my on the road, my perspective of "traffic engineering" has been turned upside down. We are now moving to a small town in the mountains of Idaho - where we will rattle the cages of State and local "traffic engineers" . . . .

[@BikingBarcelonaTogether]

@@tedbellWRV Good luck with your move and your new life!