The #1 Tip for Motorcycling with a Pillion Passenger

Two-up riding can be an extremely enjoyable experience or a terrible one. Here's how you can ensure the first option.
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[@PhilosoraptorXJ]

My wife is an amazing pillion. Doesn't hurt that she's 5'0" and weighs less than 100lbs. We ride two-up on a Versys-X and I sometimes forget she's back there. She knows when to get close and tight when so she can move with me when we're going through corners and when to lean back and chill when we're just chewing miles on the freeway. I just wanted to brag about my wife.

[@sagarparajuli8012]

Good for you mate , have fun

[@spraypaintgirl9418]

I ride with my son. He is 6’3” and 250 pounds. And fourteen. But I still ride with him on the back.

[@mridhulml9238]

😂 glad u cleared that up in the end

[@wannabejeeper]

Atta boy. We should all be so lucky.

[@VardhanShrivastava]

You go guy!

[@hymek7017]

I tell my pillions to "Scream if you want to go faster"

[@christiancartmale1150]

Wife and I have cardo packtalk and I sometimes hear a quiet "Wheeeeeeeeeeee.."

[@davegoldspink5354]

😂🤣😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Yeah.

[@KingJulienMoto]

dude this is awesome😂😂😂👌

[@Max-yy3lz]

@@christiancartmale1150 I also hear a "Wheeeeeeee" from time to time, difference being I'm alone on the bike. =D

[@m.d.1296]

@@Max-yy3lz Aww hell nah dude..hell naw...

[@QcOncleGab]

offroading with pillion is an art.

[@ondank]

You are a far better man then I

[@49Roadmaster]

Absolutely! Also 1/6 the speed I would normally do...

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

ah, yes, did some of that but with people that ride. no biggie. managed to bog down my scooter in a big sand patch and layed it down a bit. the fucker landed on his feet. i managed to blow the kick start. it had an electric start too but the kick start because it was out of alignment was doing an aweful noise. also one bike ran out of petrol and the other broke down too.

[@andrejsredojevic8751]

So true

[@Frogtalkin]

Except on a 1980's yammy Enduro. You can never fall over, I've gone through hell with my lady on the back. What a stable machine, even in tilled fields I could not tip.

[@sailronin]

Well presented. A friend with a Gold Wing had to put a velcro seat belt on his pillion because his wife would fall asleep on long rides. She is also the only time I've ever seen the pillion knitting a scarf while rolling down the interstate at 80 mph.

[@ilhanthediamondcrafter9767]

Now that's an interesting person XD

[@D3nn1s]

Not sure if i should be afraid or amazed. Probably a little of both

[@colorfuk1688]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5balls of among us

[@FarmerTanTerror]

I can’t believe you missed “Backpack Betty” ‘when I said hold on tight I didn’t mean THAT tight, loosen the squeeze and let me breath’

[@anand3033]

FarmerTanTerror sounds more like deathtrap betty

[@FelixHerz]

You can measure the lean angle by the pressure on my breast. Missed that one also

[@ShadowSanctuaryMusic]

I had one of these. Used to call her the Koala.

[@DiscoFang]

Wanda-ring hands is always a fun pillion.

[@helahsn2860]

Hahaha

[@rodrigogarcia971]

So sad we got only 4 minutes of fortnine today 😭

[@YoMomsDaBombDotCom]

Or be excited that we got 4 minutes of Fortnine today! All about perspective.

[@TheIrishBosnian]

What my girlfriend says... How I respond... Only the elite understand.

[@aarongray7861]

We thank thee, oh KZbin, for the Fortnine bounty which we have recieved...

[@restless_soulism]

I agree, too short.

[@udaysingh9_11]

@@YoMomsDaBombDotCom damn you're right

[@juststeve5542]

My favourite pillion is my friend Jess. She's small, weighs nothing, and also rides bikes. She holds onto the sissy bar and I forget she's there! In fact after a few corners I really do, then I start going into corners at speeds I would only do solo - and I hear "WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" from the back!

[@paryudisaditya8845]

This happens to me a lot

[@rivernet62]

Can I borrow Jess for a while?

[@bikecommuter24]

same here I got a friend like that she holds onto my sissy bar rack, she even fell asleep on a two hour ride.

[@Toolingabout]

“Holds onto the sissy bar” just tells me women don’t want to touch you

[@lockerzFITTOME]

What do you mean with "WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" ? Does she enjoy it or is she frightened?

[@TheStig.]

I liked how the illustration for a Multistrada has a 12" front wheel and a 23" rear wheel

[@ScottHomeVideos]

They do have comically small front wheels for being an adv bike

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

That's about to be rectified.

[@caferacer3539]

I realize why. The Ducati multustrada has a 17" front wheel with only 70% tire hight, just an ordinary road bike front wheel.

[@gibson3661]

R u the real stig?

[@Needmore27]

Meanwhile, South East Asian (ID, MY, TH, VN, PH... ) guy who ride a scooter with his wife, two kids, and their big ass grocery are laughing

[@YourFrienjamin]

Not to mention pet dog with lion-style tail & mane at rider's feet.

[@mithunnaidu0816]

Broo it's India 😂...🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

[@chandrasekharghosh222]

South asian here

[@chinmayveerkar7619]

That's how we roll y'll

[@forwardobservations8222]

with no protection gear

[@xjlover2058]

Fortnine actually helped me pass my learner's exam! I watched this video when it came out and didn't think much of it. Didn't study before going to the test and ended up with a question on 2 up riding and what the passenger should do at a stop and the only reason I knew was from this video. So thanks!

[@MrOscar5690]

What’s the answer?

[@confusedredditor1660]

@@MrOscar5690 nothing, I assume

[@lachlanhudson7404]

@@confusedredditor1660 Keep the feet on the pillion pegs!

[@confusedredditor1660]

@@lachlanhudson7404 indeed

[@riveraluciano]

My tips for first pillion ride are fairly straightforward: Say: -"I'm not going to speed suddenly, brake suddenly or turn suddenly". -Yes you can grab me by the waist, No it doesn't mean you're hitting on me. -Don't for the love of god shift your weight side to side like you're in a car. -Press your knees on my waist too, use my waist like I use the tank. -Lean with me. I won't knee drag (even if I wanted to, I couldn't).

[@veritas88n4]

I must have kept some of this info subconsciously, used my knees when told to "hold tight" earlier today. Had a blast, got complimented. Thank you!

[@WwZa7]

"use my waist like I use the tank"

[@aluisious]

"Don't for the love of god shift your weight side to side like you're in a car" wut?

[@riveraluciano]

@@aluisious read the last tip.

[@robbierootbeer8056]

@@aluisious in a car it is completely fine to just randomly lean in either direction, on a motorcycle that's how you eat pavement

[@jlkraus2]

I'm now prepared for a scenario where I have a 7 foot dude behind me on my motorcycle.

[@mrg529]

Ultimate boss lol

[@joshuadejong7115]

I felt personally attacked from that one. Lol

[@vincentkoster6291]

As a 6'6'' rider who used to be my dad's pillion, I feel bad for the dude...

[@regalrevolt4989]

@@joshuadejong7115 your last name sure checks out ;)

[@EdgarLopez-pv8co]

Me: doesn't own a motorcycle, has never ridden on one Also me: writing everything down, just in case

[@rony.482]

That's how it begins. I was you a year ago

[@houseofbadgers9380]

Get one, you won't regret it...

[@domschwarz502]

Just do it!

[@EdgarLopez-pv8co]

Thanks guys lol. Just had a baby a year ago and another one on the way, so might be a bit more of a long term goal for me. But definitely on the horizon

[@youtubeaccount5153]

I was a single dad. Too much responsibility to get a bike. Bought one a week before her wedding. Pulled up next to her at a light. Filtering up front to get to her car. Beep beep. She ignores me. Beep beep. Ignores. (Good girl!) Beep beep. WHAT!!!? Dad???? It was classic.

[@desmo750f1]

An important briefing item for me is “If you need to fidget, do it when we are moving fast, your movements have much more effect when we’re are going slowly.”

[@L1ster666]

Me and my GF almost learned this the hard way...

[@kierenmoore3236]

Very good tip. 👌🏼

[@dannymiller7187]

This is what i had to keep telling my ex over and over again until she made the bike almost to down doing that snd I had to yell it at her. she would always let go while adjusting herself as I was either coming to a stop or riding slowly and she almost flew off the bike one time because I accelerated a tiny bit and she want holding on. I stopped letting her ride with me after that one. We broke up shortly after.

[@jollyswagman1367]

YES THIS!!!!!

[@aluisious]

I tell my passengers this as well, because it's counter intuitive to them. Fast = dangerous! For god's sake stop trying to do acrobatics when I'm holding up 1000 lbs of bike, luggage, and people with my toe at an intersection.

[@shockrocker976]

12 years of riding more than the average biker and I still watch all your tips videos. Never stop learning folks, it's easy to get comfortable.

[@FalloutBreakbeat]

Best and worst pillion I've ever had was Reach Around Rachel.

[@justmyself1000]

I was waiting for her in the video!

[@kyle333halfevil]

Underrated comment

[@RedBeardWalking]

@J G I suppose that's a matter of perspective really

[@konastinkykid]

@J G LOL HAHA

[@sivvinod3187]

@HahrtDood this is motorcycles. We can't deny that motorcycles are dangerous and that the things Rachel does in a car WILL NOT translate to being "fun" on a bike.

[@Rockdoc2174]

Great advice. I taught my wife, my daughters and now my grandchildren to ride pillion. I do as I was taught: 1) tell them about following your movements and start off at a slow pace so they get used to things. Do everything gently and slowly. Take your time. It'll be worth it for both of you. 2) tell them when they're feeling comfortable with (1) to tap me on the shoulder and I'll speed up a bit 3) repeat the above until you can ride at the speed limit with each of you having confidence in the other. I remember a lot of friends leaving two wheels when they started with a new girlfriend who had the crap scared out of her by a previous boyfriend showing off. I once had to help lift a girl from the back of a sports bike because the ass of a rider had driven 800 miles with just fuel stops. He was leaning forward but she was bolt upright in all the airflow, knees forced high by the rests and wearing a haversack stuffed with their gear for a week's break. I doubt if she rode far again after they got home.

[@griffintaylor3861]

Christ, I own a sportbike, and I just removed the passenger pegs altogether because I do not plan to use them and prefer the look. Looks about as uncomfortable as it can get. Sure, if someone I know really wants to try a ride and is willing to actually learn, ill spend the 20 minutes and throw them back on but until then, whats the point

[@newguy3588]

My friend will no longer ride on a motorcycle because of that. F people like that. Motorcycles are already thrilling, no need to any more danger to it.

[@ryoder]

Funny story from back when I was 20yo, (but scary at the time); I had a Sportster, with tiny pad for the pillion, and no handrails, nor tail rack. I was carrying a tall, slim dude on the back who had ridden with me before w/o problem. As I was taking off from a traffic light, something caught my attention in my peripheral vision, both on my left and my right; It was his ankles. They were about shoulder height and climbing skyward. I grabbed front brake, and felt the reassuring smack of his face on the back of my helmet. Far preferable to dumping him in front of the car following us.

[@dutchlikeme]

Haha that happened to my friend once, he was on the back of a multistrada my instructor had and he held on to the hand rails instead of my instructor. One yank of the throttle and his legs were in missionary

[@dannymiller7187]

My ex was the worst passenger always moved around when I was at slowl speeds or stoping and told her not to. Would always let go and not hold on and she almost flew off the bike one time when I accelerated. I pulled the brakes and she slammed back in place. I stopped taking her on rides after that one because I didn’t want her parents to kill me for her dumb actions I told her not to do.

[@ziparis]

Omg! Lolol!

[@rivernet62]

I’m just glad to hear there’s > 1 person besides me who doesn’t care if a dude in on the back.

[@AzzKicker-bz1cb]

@@rivernet62 I was at one time that dude on the back with a dude driving! Several times.

[@hc0109207]

At 6'9", I feel "sailboat sam" at a personal level regardless of pillion or driver.

[@bioman2172]

A great tip for life in general: "Put yourself in the passenger seat. Understand your pillion."

[@bunkie2100]

I am lucky in that my wife loves to ride on the back and is an excellent passenger. She bravely got on the back twenty one years ago on our second date when I gave her a ride back to her place in Manhattan. I made a point of proving on that first ride, that I was a safe rider. It has paid off handsomely. We are both retired and have had the same Ninja 650 for ten years. As you said, 200% responsibility.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Nice advise. I keep it simple and it’s worked for nearly 30 years with all of the above mentioned pillions. “If I go left, just look over my left shoulder. If I go right, just look over my right shoulder. Simple, but super simple and effective! 👍😎

[@failedfishermanBC]

Nice! I like that

[@scottcates]

This is the best advice for pillions

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist5 Blasphemy?

[@jeckjeck6943]

very smart

[@BS-mi7pc]

"In a left turn, you must look to the left of my helmet, and vice versa"

[@alekmiloy8166]

That is it. Look towards the side we are turning. Don't lean, just look. My younger brother leans to the opposite side, and can't unlearn it, no more riding for him

[@youtubeaccount5153]

I was going to post the same thing. Whichever way the road is turning, look over that shoulder.

[@erniecolussy1705]

I agree. Here is the explanation for those that have never used this instruction. By looking over the shoulder that the motorcycle is turning towards forces the passengers to lean in the correct direction and lean close to the correct amount. This instruction is less stressful on a passenger than trying to figure out the correct amount of lean for the "lean with me" instruction many riders give. It also gets the passenger looking ahead on the road. They are less surprised by bump and sudden moves. They become more involved. They have more fun.

[@tmlhkyfn]

That is typically the only advice I have ever given a passenger & invariably also works best for an inexperienced passenger. My current partner, of 12 yrs, is by far the BEST passenger I have ever had. I once had to haul the bike down from speed "in a hurry" due to developments with the cages in front of me & her weight never shifted am ounce.

[@ryanthosome]

The animation people did an excellent job, many laughs and all very true. Bravo

[@TheCdubbleyoo]

1) I think you missed 2Close Terry who habitually slides forward as the ride progresses instead of using the footpegs to brace themselves, causing your lower central area to become very acquainted with the fuel tank area, for better or worse for said area. This describes my first pillion. 2) With time and me communication properly, just about every pillion I have had has gotten pretty good, though some are better. The less scared they are and the better communicator I am (both in terms of what I need and giving them plaudits for when they are riding well). My first pillion is now actually one of my favorite pillions, as she really does enjoy riding and not just going along for a ride. She also learned to ride herself. 3) I have, in fact, had a pillion melt their shoe on my exhaust. I didn't communicate well and we both paid a price. 4) Having the right horse for THAT pillion can make a WORLD of difference in the experience for you both. No long rides unless the bike has the space, padding and suspension for it.

[@billythekid2281]

“Mike’s hands are frostbitten, and his shoe melted on to my muffler an hour ago” I’m dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@HetisdeAp]

So is Mike.

[@creepermaster9043]

@@HetisdeAp Hol- up.

[@billythekid2281]

This was a month ago and I’m still laughing over this 😂

[@AnyBodyWannaPeanut]

I always have "the talk" before I get anyone new on my bike. It's always good to let them know what's up and how to make the ride more enjoyable. I've actually pulled over before when someone wasn't co-operating properly.

[@rookiewrenching938]

Very relatable! When I’m riding 2-up with my wife I know my shifting is getting sloppy when her helmet bangs against mine. 😁

[@jaydunsmore050897]

Lmao

[@toolshedjunky]

Turtle Sex

[@consubandon]

Repeated commandment to first-time pillions: "No bonking!"

[@theophilusdaniel]

Yup! That’s a good sign! 👌🏼 Same with my wife. Either I am sloppy or she just dozed off at the back! 🤣🤪

[@captaincaveman284]

Yeah same thing when I have my son on the bike as well, realised I was popping the clutch too much when he was smacking the back of my head with his.

[@PhilbyFavourites]

Once again proving why Ryan has the ear and attention of everyone. Amusing, informative and will rest gently in your central cortex for the next time you take a pillion. Well done old chap.

[@PDR0575]

Best thing I found to speed up the conversion for a pillion being comfortably on my bike. Being able to converse with me directly via a headset. Instant feed back between the both of us. Encouragement and direction from me, fears and unease from them. So much easier than a tap on the helmet and trying to find somewhere to pull over.

[@vanoscrap6296]

"the rest is just physics" sadly 90% of people don't know squat about physics

[@lizunya1983]

physics doesn't mind, it just keeps on happening

[@elmoomle4565]

Yup...90% of people don't know squat about, pretty much, anything...

[@rgh622]

The Dunning-Kruger is strong with this crowd....

[@amparodavila1009]

Pffft Lol ahhh I love comments where I can have a good chuckle

[@adambasinger6239]

While yes, I think what his response would be "you may not *know* physics, but you do *feel* physics*. His point is that there is no trick, its just once you know your pillion, nothing is fundamentally different from normal motorcycle driving, which in a more tangible way than simply existing 100% physics, shifting weight, leaning not leaning all that jazz

[@yudadwiparamarta7619]

Very true. 3 basic rules for me when carrying a pillion >Hand off my shoulder >Foot on the footrest >No sudden movements

[@yokeshhsekoy]

Top quality animation and Hilarious script as always! F9 continues to be one the best motorcycle content to come across

[@Wilberon_McBane]

What a genuinely simple, beautifully produced and bloody brilliant guide. Been fortunate enough to ride with pillions for years and nothing has come close to making things clearer about the principles than this. Well done. But then we expect nothing less from this channel! 😎👍

[@mikeb6185]

Once again - fantastically produced, funny, but with a serious message for safety! Brilliant!

[@ivanbudruev8820]

Great looking animation and simple enough guide to show a pillion, a wonderful aid to use with or instead of the black board. Just please don't stop doing the cinematic stuff) Love when you try new things

[@akshayar91]

I'm half way through and the video is absolutely hilarious and very true.

[@iCatchLupin]

As someone who has taken every single archetype of rider mentioned here for a ride, this is a great resource for people who are new to the hobby of taking pillion riders. Thanks, Ryan!

[@kghwanadoo]

Just spent a week as pillion on the back of my mates CB1300 at the Manx GP. Because we were both riders it was a smooth time, no head butting or scary moments as we both knew what was expected. This video is brilliant at putting all the stuff over in a few minutes what took me 30 years to learn. Nice one.

[@ridethroughlifertl]

In my experience, communication is the most important thing to have. Communicate riding gear, what to expect, how-to's and directions. It eases the passenger and makes for a more comfortable ride for us both.

[@Doeboy00051]

I just passed my MSF today and wanted to give you a shout out for all the knowledge you've given me and people like me. Not going in blind really helped me focus on learning and shrug off the nervousness. Keep it up, You are doing the motorcycle community a great service!!!

[@Whatheonearth]

Rode a ton on the back of my dads bike when i was younger, thankfully has translated into understanding how passengers feel when they're riding with me

[@knightrides6034]

Really covered all of them haha I just tell my passengers "be my backpack"

[@cornchips007]

@tinwoods it's really not. That's what I got told and I was really nervous so it helped to imagine myself as the backpack sticking to whatever movements the rider was doing. We had comms as well so that helped.

[@nomadben]

@tinwoods That's the most asshole comment I've read in a while.

[@panic4000]

I get seagulls by bad lip reading stuck in my head. "Swing from a hairy vine, I can be your backpack while you climb" This is a fun way to instruct someone who is a bit nervous but nonetheless enjoying the bike.

[@ChutesBrewing]

I'm 6'6" and my wife, who grew up with motorcycles, is 5'2" ... she literally becomes my backpack.

[@TornadoCAN99]

Another entertaining & informative video! Nice meeting RF9 at a local coffee shop the other day when I stopped him oogling my '74 Norton Commando....gimme a hollar if/when you want to make a video with it....

[@FortNine]

That was a sweet bike! Nice to meet you too, and thanks for the offer :) Might take you up on that. ~RF9

[@ianmackenzie686]

Knee down in school zones.... My Tim Horton blasted through my nose and I nearly pee'd myself....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MsZsc]

tim hortons is shit now

[@ianmackenzie686]

@@MsZsc That's why I just buy the cans of coffee and make at home.

[@AngryVikingwGuitar]

Yep that's me, not as a pillion but as a rider xD Gotta show off for the kids.

[@thedude4065]

@@ianmackenzie686 .... Tim Horton’s coffee is bitter tasting, due in part to being over-roasted

[@amirulirfan761]

"you're not my black ops commander" XD

[@cornish_boy6235]

My wife’s a brilliant pillion but the first time I took her out she moved from one side of me to the other mid corner. Proper shat my pants as the bike suddenly dropped mid corner. Stopped and politely told her (we’d been together about a month and it was also her first time on a bike) that if she did that again she’d be left behind. 7 years later and no more.

[@Coonakos]

Watching this was really entertaining but after reading some of the comments it was also a reminder to appreciate my wife as a pillion even more! She leans with me, ducks with me, stands on the footpegs over crazy potholes, she takes the weather and she even makes amazing bento boxes for our longer rides so we can eat something of super quality since we get tired from the ride! Ah, I'm one lucky rider!

[@twowheelseatingmeals-motoj8080]

I think I hit the jackpot with my girl. I haven't owned a motorcycle for long (Just under a year now), she has experience on scooters back in her home country her whole life. She would literally push for me to take her out on a ride, of course I was hesitant at the start because the last thing I wanted was to hurt her because of my inability to ride. But one day I thought, I would never let anything hurt this girl, told her to suit up and away we went. And oh my god, it was as if I was riding solo, I was so goddamn happy with her pillion performance.

[@Lagggerengineering]

This is incredibly useful. Thank you so much! Top notch quality as always. Canadians rock!

[@chrisb.7787]

Leave Nickel Back out of this!

[@nicklevesque9663]

Me and my pillion riding girlfriend had a good laugh at this. Nice job man. Mandatory information for new passengers.

[@ondank]

So who has everyone ridden with? For me its: Noodle neck nicole who was also a handsy hannah Matyr Mike Racey Rachel x 2 I also have ridden with a unicorn who was the perfect pillion.

[@kleinbottled79]

A noodle neck Nichole who also fidgets and shifts too much at low speeds and stops. And one perfect pillion unicorn. ...Well, she was a bit of a Statue Stephanie. Since she didn't seem to want to lean with me, I just stayed neutral as well and used 100% counter steering to turn the bike. I ride like that sometimes anyways, no biggie. Give me someone who stays neutral over a fidgeter any day.

[@disabledman8697]

I've had homphobic harry, Racy rachel (sort of. Can't you just take me for a ride as I am? wdym i need at least a jacket? ) and sort of noodle neck nicole, although that was just homophobic harry sliding around on my pillion seat as if it were made out of soap.

[@acvn-hg9gy]

My brother, who was a near perfect pillion, be it that he's tall. My sister, noodleneck nancy. And my ex, for which i couldn't compensate by tuning the preload

[@michaelkrenzer3296]

I would think one wrong move and the unicorn would gore you right in the back with that giant horn!

[@georgecanakis1075]

Lmao my pillion is the girl bumping her helmet on mine constantly. Drives me crazy .🤪🤪🤪

[@Machoymilo]

What a great way to actually teach something with humor, props!

[@jaywhoisit4863]

I’m fortunate to ride in Kenya. We have millions of motorcycle taxis called piki-Piki’s. People here learn from birth how to pillion a motorcycle!

[@rds4629]

man I love that. Piki-Piki!

[@niiparson]

In Ghana, Togo and Nigeria, we call them Okada.

[@TheAngusGao]

I don't think being in kenya translates to being fortunate

[@jaywhoisit4863]

ces't Sur Homme I’ve lived and worked in 56 countries in my life. Kenya is in the top 3 for quality of life, cost of living, and personal freedoms. It’s an amazing country. I’m not going back to the west.

[@pramienjager2103]

The worst riders I have ever met are from countries like Viet Nam and Thailand where people are born riding on bikes. I am not sure how it is possible to have never driven anything but a scooter or motorcycle and also be completely unable to do so safely. I hope to get to a few countries in Africa soon, before I am to damned old to enjoy it, perhaps Kenya is truly different but I won't hold my breath.

[@loddude5706]

"And no, you can't sit on the handlebars . . ."

[@just-dl]

awwwww.....

[@motorcityoctane6713]

Homophobic Harry had me rolling 😂😂

[@BobTheHatKing]

Man all he had to do was say no homo 🤣

[@Foxman25000]

I was this man once. I learned 10 seconds in to hold on if you want to live

[@GDLOTKIDOG]

So far you haven’t said any idiot stuff. I have been watching your channel for a while now. I like you man. Sharp dude. Thank You for the knowledge.

[@GadgetMart]

Had a scary moment trying this advice, lean when I lean is a definite no no unless you want your pillion steering the bike from the rear. Just go with the bike, lean as the bike leans is better advice

[@dsp4392]

I prefer this too. I tell my pillions to stay in the same axis as the bike, then it just feels like you're riding a heavier bike. When they're told to lean the center of mass gets much harder to predict.

[@GadgetMart]

dsp4 I forget she’s there, we watched this video and it made things worse. She’s a pretty good pillion tbf.

[@heirembae4389]

This is true because human reactions are slow after we lean and they follow, the leaning angle might be too much. It is very important not to have sudden movement. Had a incident where a pillion went to lean deeper since he saw me lean deep and he did this suddenly. Rear tyre slide out and skided . . .

[@arjorn9121]

What has always worked for me is: "Look over my right shoulder in right tuns and over my left shoulder in left turns." Unless you go ridiculous lean angles with your pillian that should feel very smooth.

[@GadgetMart]

Arjorn Lean with the bike works for me. I don’t even know she’s there

[@NooBiker]

Thanks for this. Just started taking my daughter pillion. She's pretty good about moving with the bike but gets nervous above 50mph in the twisties. But we've worked out a communication system: she taps her left leg on mine if I'm going too fast for her liking 😂👍🏼 Thanks for the video!

[@volvogt21]

My wife is my pillion and I'll never understand her.. just saying...

[@just-dl]

even if you never rode a bike, the second half of that statement stands....

[@KingJulienMoto]

dude😂🙈🙈

[@IslandTosh]

Sometimes the rider needs to go over these rules again if it's been a while since the pillion has ridden with you.

[@markszawlowski867]

Damn it if this isn't one of the best channels on KZbin regardless of the topic. So well done mate.

[@drtraviscj]

Ryan, this is simply great & a 1-in-a-million level of class.

[@JMeyer-qj1pv]

The way to do it is with helmet comms so that you can talk to the passenger in real time to fix issues

[@SoloPilot6]

This also makes them more comfortable QUICKLY -- you're chatting with each other, just as if you were in a car or riding bicycles.

[@oregonoutback7779]

But then, you have to listen to them go on and on and on about ........ nothing.

[@rieska178]

@@oregonoutback7779 Then choose your passenger more carefully

[@AndrewBoundy]

Love riding with my wife but I ride to listen to the motor and the wind, not nattering. 1 leg tap = OK, 2 = pull over when you can, more than 2 = pull over now.

[@SoloPilot6]

@@AndrewBoundy For me, it's the other way around. I bring a passenger to SHARE THE EXPERIENCE. Not to ask them an hour later "Hey, did you see that one view of the mountain back there?"

[@HiltownJoe]

When I was riding pilion i got a great advice. Look past the driver on the inside of the curve. That leads automatically to the body leaning slightly into the curve and gives the pilion something constructive to concentrate on.

[@LM-dj6gc]

Last time I went pillion was with my dad. I ride a 125cc with L plates so naturally I wanted to see what all the fuss of a 600 was. He made me go on my pillion on my 125cc scooter first as it has a large top box and isn’t too powerful to learn on, and I loved it. We then tried the 600 and WHOOPS, we power wheelied when setting off from a cross roads and decked it. Nobody was hurt, if you don’t count the bike. We think the extra weight mixed with how quick he let out the clutch caused us to deck it.

[@creepermaster9043]

I ride 125 chopper now,i tried my Kum's(dk how its said)bike which is 650 enduro,i fucked up u-turn,gave too much throttle amd pulled the front brake first,i managed to land on my foot beckause i saw that it will fall,luckily didnt break something.Im not scared to ride bigger bikes,but damn am i scared of throttles amd throttle control

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

I once wheelied a Chinese RKV 200 pulling off at the intersection. Added passenger weight at the back and clutch let go too fast... ))

[@diogoplacer8388]

When I was young I had a scooter that got really weird with a pillion. It was like I lost a lot of adherence on the front wheel. My gf at the time was hard to drive but ok, she was like 90 pounds. But when rode with my 180 pounds friend, we went straight to the ground after a sharp right turn when launching. I still get uncomfortable in some bikes, the Center of Gravity changes a lot.

[@creepermaster9043]

Beckause im so unsure of my throttle control,i ussualy just use clutch to do slow speed manuevers,without throttle,or with a little bit of it,if needed,i became better at it,and im comfortabke now,but i can get scared or uncomfortable if i do manuevers on the slippy surfaces

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

@@diogoplacer8388For me on small scooters trailbraking works great. It shifts weight forward, thus compensating for weight of a passenger added to the rear. But on the straights and under acceleration, yeah, the front feels underloaded. Which it often is with heavy passenger.

[@justus1199]

My advice to my passenger is “Be luggage” luggage doesn’t move. I can see how having a passenger lean with you could be ok... but the last thing I want is 100-170lbs of inexperienced luggage shifting around behind me in a corner. I want them to stay vertically in line with the bike and I show them what I mean. Scariest thing I’ve ever experienced with a passenger, half way through a corner she got a little out of position on her seat and stepped down hard on the low side peg to shift herself back over. Her initial “input” to my steering almost had me drop the bike, so I counter leaned hard to keep us up...just as she shifted all her weight to the high side. We had a long talk about holding still and no sudden movements, especially in corners after that. Has been a great passenger ever since.

[@ssneg]

Learned this lesson the hard way on a snowmobile 15 years ago. Every word of this video is golden.

[@andrei0525]

Now we know what ryan f9 has been doing during the lockdown: learning to draw and animate

[@bruceglock5725]

I had that chest against my back convo with a guy who wore a shi+load of Harley gear but never owned one and kept telling me I was wrong until I rolled my eyes and walked away. Can't fix stupid.

[@brumby92]

Then he ain't getting on the back of your bike.

[@Sparrowash97]

rajesh koothrappali I don’t think he’s getting in any bike

[@kaydenstaley1068]

Nope, you cannot fix stupid. You sure can charge for it though!

[@HighSchoolNotes]

The pillion "physics" is important too - bikes are so light that adding pillion weight massively changes the handling. You often end up down a gear vs normal. But the most important is you need A LOT more space and time to stop. So when I take a pillion, I drive very differently than by myself - much slower, and often in a lower gear.

[@WonkyView]

Great vid! +1 to 200% responsibility. Years back on a sharp turn on one of my day to day fast UK A road with my first pillion was a lesson on biking physics and the value of committing/looking where you want to/should go.

[@MdSifat_]

it is amazing how simple and practical these advises are. I don't have a bike anymore, mostly I ride pillion. And riders who fail to cooperate with the pillion is sure in danger. Also the pillion has responsibilities too. Thankyou FortNine for this woinderful channel. I am learning amazing things before I start riding again.

[@ONYX-365]

_Sailboat Simon cracked me up!_ 😅😂

[@originalradman9491]

I've been sailboat Simon. LoL. My friend had a Ninja 500 and I was at least a helmet above her. Based on the acceleration and turns she performed I'd say the ride wasn't very stressful. Lots of fun and I ended up being the designated driver on the way home. 😁

[@jasonwaltman3566]

Step 1: remove and dispose of passenger seat. 😁

[@darkshadowsx5949]

i took off my passenger pegs. i cant and wont cut my plank seat in half.

[@jensenmiller6410]

Easier to remove pegs and cover rear seat.

[@Noadvantage246]

Or... Just don't let ppl ride as passengers if you don't want them to. No need to change your bike lmao

[@mrkang4080]

Exactly... 2up riding suuuuuuuuucks. I get that there are 20 year old dudes who think they can get laid by taking girls for rides. But riding with a passenger sucks. My passenger seat and pegs come off as soon as my new bike gets home.

[@christopherbrau5229]

I'm with Will on this... What kind of ninja monkeys live in your neighborhood where you are riding along...minding your own business and "wtf! Where did that passenger come from? I better remove the passenger seat and foot pegs to prevent spontaneous passengers springing onto my bike!" ??? If you're a solo-only rider in a group and someone's bike breaks down it's nice to have the option, but if you're not comfortable then teach your friends no means no?

[@NorthStarFooligan]

You know that you and your pillion have made when you can wheelie together.

[@Jackchalm]

These animated format is great! I would love it if you did more

[@Max-zo3ms]

This video is the funniest thing I've watched in quite awhile, had me in stitches. Cheers

[@AndrewB416]

Lean when I lean or so help me god I will turn this bike around.

[@vintagerealityvr]

Better is "look where I look". Leaning complicates things for people that don't ride.

[@neelchat594]

Also something that helps: try riding as a pillion.

[@SwainixFPV]

My first rides on a bike were as pillion from the instructor's local to the parking place, but he also didn't give me any instructions so I just followed from what I saw in this video, he didn't complain so I guess it was a good video to see lol

[@gromzen]

Forgot the most crucial piece of advice. These days, remain 6 feet apart while 2 up.

[@alextherussian7366]

... Like put an noose around his/her neck and drag them behind you?

[@planets9102]

@@alextherussian7366 Just give em a skateboard and a rope

[@patrickperron792]

You did it again Ryan, impressing us ! Thanks

[@Chrisosaurusrex]

These illustrations were absolutely top notch

[@damndoor3570]

You know you've found the right girl when you forget shes even behind you

[@lucianbga3356]

siiiii,,, absolutleeey ..

[@lucianbga3356]

and, when you are the copilot from time to time ,' )

[@kyleman1313]

I don't even know why I'm watching this, I removed the passenger footpegs from my bike.

[@pandaphreak]

I tried motorcycling last year and found out it wasn't for me. What I really like though is riding as a passenger. This video really helped me understand how I can better handle myself as a passenger and it's super cute animations.

[@goffryboss]

Can confirm so much this. I always give to my first-time-pillions a brief introduction on how behave, and they always thank in the end

[@junkinthebrain]

Great advice! I never fail to learn from this channel. Your graphics game is on point too!

[@glinleyt]

As usual, very cogent tips from Ryan. My girlfriend and I pillion often. She's tall but also rides occasionally and she is a great pillion. We use a helmet to helmet BT comm system and what I find helps a lot for our symmetry is to warn her of things I see or am about to do that may not always be obvious. Examples would be the choice between a left or a right turn at a T junction. I may have changed my mind. Or if I spot a dog on the loose at the side of the road; I'm going to warn her of this so she can prepare for the potential acceleration forces that may be imminent! Did I say she's a great pillion?

[@briansmith3011]

Dad was an MSF instructor and rode year round. I remember when I was finally old enough to ride pillion instead of on the tank. I also remember when I got good enough at being pillion, match his movements, to go for the long fun ride. Gold medal goes to my sister whom slept while pillion.

[@slovak4life1991]

I had a friend who told me she would sleep on the back of her boyfriend's bike all the time. I didn't think it was possible. I took a passenger for the first time last weekend. She was definitely more nervous than I was. I must have done a good job of calming her nerves cuz she ended up falling asleep. I decided I had to make the ride a little more exciting.

[@Yoda8945]

My best pillion was a college student 5'10" and 160 lbs. She was so smooth as a passenger that I hardly knew she was there. I asked when she had ridden before and her response was "A few times with my Dad, but he is boring". ( I'm 20 years older than her father ). She is currently being certified to ride in Holland.

[@FDCBALT]

The content quality never fails to impress.

[@johnmooney7213]

This brings back some fond memories from my earlier days of riding with my mates or girlfriends, from the late 1960's to the mid 1980's, when i finally settled down and married a smart but unsuitable lady pillion (highly nervous). These days I still ride my 2009 Triumph SE Bonneville, always solo now, as all of my friends and family have no sense of adventure, or sense of immortality. But I'm still a confident, safe rider, and if ever the occasion rose to take a pillion again, I'd remember this video, and some of the comments to give a "no holds barred" pre-ride instruction to the new pillion. Here in the west most riders would consider themselves brilliant that they can carry a pillion around, even it is only to the nightclub with their supermodel girlfriend on the back at night time, or taking your wife on a long distance highway trip. However, sorry to disappoint some of you viewers, the West has nothing, when compared to what I witnessed in India, when I went there for a wedding six years ago. It is commonplace to see entire families on the one motorcycle. Dad would have the preschooler sitting on the tank in front of him. Behind him his wife in a sari riding side saddle(that's the road rule if the woman is dressed that way), and holding a baby, whilst behind Mum is the older sibling, clutching the night's dinner.....a live chicken by the legs ! All this, whilst dodging the sacred cows, pigs, wild dogs and potholes on incredibly busy streets, with traffic coming at you from every direction. Or three building workers again on the one motorcycle carrying an extension ladder on their shoulders going down the motorway from New Delhi. Work out the physics on that one !

[@mostly-harmless]

ugh, where we're you 10 years ago bro :D

[@chavezhurtado6483]

I’ve had two pillions in my life, and wow these are so accurate

[@28Cent]

Every time if i ride with a pillion i say to them be like my backpack :D

[@P.M_M]

Exactly what i say. "imagine you were my backpack without actually clinging to me like one"... Can do without the deathgrip while riding 😂

[@P.M_M]

@tinwoods aye, cos im gonna just tell whoever is on my pillion to plonk their arse down and pray to the gods while i clutchup from the lights and proceed to wheelie 200m down the road one handed. I gave a shorthand out of context account of what i say. Im not going to list everything like the minutes of a business meeting in the KZbin comments, jesus. Pipe down PC brigade

[@chasp_0784]

Sweet graphics/visual art thing you guys got going on here, another step forward for FortNine

[@jheal3042]

Every video you make is a gem. Best channel on KZbin!

[@exystantyt]

“Knee down in school zones” 😂😂😭😭