Space Taxi getting added to the list is my fault - at one point OSG and I were talking about how some games use a mix of custom characters and PETSCII. Space Taxi has a PETSCII loading screen (a giant Space Taxi made out of ROM characters) and some of the levels are PETSCII-inspired like Short N' Sweet, Taxi Trainer, Puzzler, and more. Same with Tower of Rubble, where the title screen is all PETSCII, and the gameplay is still PETSCII inspired but does use custom characters. I hope you all enjoy the list anyway, and I thank OSG for giving me a chance to make an appearance.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Im honored to have you on my channel mate, youve always been there when ive had a problem and love your videos although often i dont comment, i always watch.....just am so dumb i dont know what to say lol.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
So its become apparent that I've left out probably the best PETSCII game of all.....Monstro Giganto, this is because in my search I never even found it.... i might actually do a stand alone video on it that links to this video just to put that right. Im not taking this one down now as ive been on with it far too long and have other videos that I need to do...all I can do is apologise for making such a big mistake.......sorry guys Also i missed this disclaimer that Robin told me to use...... "Oh yeah, and in your disclaimer you can say some of these games use hardware sprites and that's okay too. The aesthetic actually goes back to the C64 Christmas Demo that Commodore released. Hardware sprites overlaid on all PETSCII backgrounds." I shouldnt be allowed to technical stuff...ill just stick to playing games from now on
@DropDeadFrederick2 жыл бұрын
I literally came to the comments to mention Monstro Giganto. :D
@patsfan4life2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s only about a year old
@remistuczynski27682 жыл бұрын
Cool list, however I am bit shocked you didn't include Monstro Giganto! Really good game mate!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I never even knew about it... im wondering if it uses PETSCII and other stuff as I would have thought Robin would have mentioned it...ive seen it now and it looks great
@remistuczynski27682 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming yeah, and it plays as good as it looks. As far as I know it's petscii only
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
aw balls.... im pissed off now
@patsfan4life2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a new release, maybe they didn’t know of it
@remistuczynski27682 жыл бұрын
@@patsfan4life yep, you are probably right
@merykjenkins32742 жыл бұрын
A great collaboration between yourself and Robin. Digiloi is an amazing example of what's possible with such a simple character set!
@nelltheretrogamer2 жыл бұрын
I had a cheap compilation disk which had eight games on it and many of them used partly PETSCII graphics. The only one I liked enough to play more than a couple of times was a game called Derby Day which was simply about betting on horses. You placed your bets and watched the horses run and that was it. But is was surprisingly addictive. I always created four players so that I could bet on each of the four horses. The game was written in Basic and the code wasn't protected in any way, you could see it with the List command.
@oldfartplayingoldgames Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a cheap "Keypunch" (I think it was called) games collection I bought for my C64 back in the day. Target used to have a whole aisle of cheap software in blister packs.
@BenjaminHorvat2 жыл бұрын
Nice compilation..I would add Monstro Giganto to the list as well. Thanks for the vid!
@grymmjack2 жыл бұрын
WOW what a video! THANKS!!! Incredible. Wow Robin, thanks for this joint effort my goodness!
@gumdeo2 жыл бұрын
Space Taxi, a timeless classic.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
It is mate....its like a time sapper as everytime you load it up you end up playing it for ages
@Trenchbroom2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Your video does not have the speech synthesis for each "Hey Taxi!' or "Pad 1 please". Maybe you need to run the emulator in NTSC mode, or possibly find a different version of the game online (I noticed the title screen in your video has "by Mc Orr Software" which is incorrect, it should say "by John Kutcher"). Just want to make sure the old girl is looking/sounding her best! Thanks for the great video.
@TheStuffMade2 жыл бұрын
It's a great list of PETSCII graphics games, some of them I've never even heard about before. Space taxi really is a fantastic game, especially considering it was released so many years ago, it's like they took Lunar Lander and improved on it by turning it into a futuristic taxi game.
@DrScrobo2 жыл бұрын
I remember having a disk with Galaga on it. It was PETSCII graphics. Good game but needed some colour. Still was a way to play Galaga at home!
@Retro_B82 жыл бұрын
Wow some awesome games here mate, played the one in first place a fair bit, beautiful looking and really playable. Top stuff mate
@mattjames63492 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I knew what it was from the 8 bit guy but I’d not seen how it has been used before so…really enlightening ! Thanks!
@IsaacKuo2 жыл бұрын
My favorite PETSCII games were silly games I made for myself on the VIC20 and then C64. I'm particularly proud of my 20 line Robotron clone. One which I played a lot of, considering how simplistic it was, was a simple action game with the USS Enterprise fixed at the bottom of the screen and a Klingon Bird of Prey at the top. I used INSERT and DELETE printing to shift the Klingon ship left and right (I don't remember exactly how tall it was ... maybe 6 or 7 lines tall). The only control was to press SPACE to fire phasers straight up. If you hit the Klingon dead center you won! If you pressed SPACE two frames in a row, you lost (your phasers overheated). Either way, I had a simplistic PETSCII explosion effect. If you weren't dead center, your phasers still gouged out a column of characters out of the Klingon ship. Such a ridiculously simple game, but for some reason I found it fun to play.
@earthad6662 жыл бұрын
Lots of games I've never heard of. Awesome video as always!
@Hologhoul2 жыл бұрын
Wow some of those are really creative, that last one looks great!
@simonstapletondotcom2 жыл бұрын
Love this. If only there were more PETSCII games back in the day because they could have been cross-platform (in Commodore range) with ease
@eskey6912 жыл бұрын
Well as always am super late seeing this video haha. Only knew 2 games on this list but the best of the 2 for me was Space Taxi man this game made me rage and happy all in one hit. Great video as always buudy and hey i learnt today so that's a big bonus. Keep up the great work and roll on the next one, laters an take care.
@dodgierodders32172 жыл бұрын
Great video, and it's awesome to see you and the 8-Bit Show collaborating! Do you, Robin, (or anyone) know if 'Cops & Robbers' (1985), or 'Floyd of the Jungle' (1982) are classified as PETSCII games, or a sort of hybrid with custom characters? Keep up the awesome vids!
@8_Bit2 жыл бұрын
Floyd looks like it uses custom characters for pretty much everything. It doesn't use many, but from what I see it's not using the ROM characters. Cops'n'Robbers (1985, by Atlantis Software) seems to use a combination of PETSCII and custom. Some game developers would start by copying the existing ROM characters and then gradually redefine parts of them as the game was developed; that probably happened here.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Robin is the man to tell you the tech stuff but as far as the games go, i havent played Cops & Robbers but love Floyd of the Jungle I actually had it in my Hidden Gems F video its a brilliant game
@robinhatherall67792 жыл бұрын
Cool. Love the big chunky style
@chris-do2 жыл бұрын
Great idea as always .But like others i miss the real #1 PETSCII game MG ;-) . and 2 other small comments: PETSCII Lemmings is also quite funny and in my eyes the fantastic Space Taxi looks like a modified charset, so not a real PETSCII
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Well Robin checked these out and the only game he said was modified was NukeWar which I removed so Ill have to ask him about that. I normally wouldnt take a video like this on because I dont know enough about the subject to give it my all...i can only play the games.... i am annoyed that I havent got that game in this video though as I never even knew about it and I googled the shit out of Petscii Graphics games too
@zaibatsubilly66912 жыл бұрын
Great video like always. Cheers!
@robvegas93542 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Awesome games! Cheers OSG!
@karakug Жыл бұрын
Baromi jók! Nem is gondoltam, hogy ilyeneket is lehet csinálni PETSCII-vel 😯 (Egyedül a Space Taxit ismertem, meg a pókeres játék régi változatát.)
@MephProduction2 жыл бұрын
never really knew what PETSCII was, now i do and i think i like it
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
me neither mate...but its pretty impressive stuff though
@5HlNOBI2 жыл бұрын
Impossibru! Diabolical! That last one is my fav. TY OSG!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I think if Tower of Rubble wasnt so damn hard it would be my favourite
@commocore2 жыл бұрын
Next year I hope that my 100% PETSCII pseudo FPS shooter, Bring back my bones will make the TOP 10 ;). Nice video, the first 4 games I had no clue about!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Id love to check that out mate
@commocore2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming \o/ yay! I also made the sequel, might be easier to start, but both games are straight from HELL anyway.
@RickinBaltimore2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Great info from Robin in this!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Hes a great guy, very helpful all the time :-)
@merman19742 жыл бұрын
The definition of PETSCII has been stretched a little here, but it's a fun list with some alternative titles. I would recommend WEATHERWAR II (aka Ouranos), which is the C64 update of an early PET title. You play a wizard trying to blow up your opponent's castle with magic spells based on types of weather. It can be quite addictive.
@johndough81152 жыл бұрын
Some more info: 1) The Commodore 64 Keyboards has the Alternate Petscii characters printed on the lower front face of nearly every Key on the keyboard. You could press a letter key + another key, to activate the desired Petscii symbol, and it would produce the desired symbol, on screen. 2) The Character set in the c64, can be Edited. Thus, you can make you own character tile-set graphics, with a character editor... similar to how you make Sprites with a sprite editor. This is how most professionally made games on the c64 were made. The majority of the screen would be created from that custom tileset.. and then scrolled around. The c64 only had like 8 hardware sprites... and those would typically be used for the player ship, projectiles, and some enemies. At at least one point, I believe I crashed a professional game somehow... and when I tried to write text on the screen... I got the games graphics, instead. This is how I learned, about these games were created. The c64 characters were really cool, as they were very easy for anyone to access and utilize, with a simple two key combination, ...and they had enough shapes to be able to make decent images / pictures with. 3) If memory serves me right... I think the tiles were 8x8.. and the sprites were 16x16 pixels.
@pvanukoff2 жыл бұрын
Sprites were 24x21 pixels.
@csbruce2 жыл бұрын
2:16 I wonder if Commodore would have been better off using a compatible version of ASCII for 95 glyphs and adding 33 graphics characters to it. I guess 4 card suits, 7 quad-graphic patterns (plus 7 more reversed), horizontal and vertical lines, 4 line corners, and 16 more. After all, their first computers were intended as business machines rather than game machines. 7:35 The checkerboard pattern doesn't look like C64 PETSCII, since the ROM pattern is 4×4 instead of 8×8. The bushes don't look like PETSCII either. 8:25 This one definitely doesn't use PETSCII characters. 9:35 Space Taxi uses character graphics for the main screen, but it's not PETSCII.
@8_Bit2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it looks like Rags to Riches does redefine a number of characters. It's interesting that they'd build such huge levels almost exclusively with PETSCII, but not go all the way. Space Taxi uses PETSCII on its loading screen (not shown) but also some of the other levels are made mostly of PETSCII characters (but still use the custom font for numbers). The Tower game has an all PETSCII title screen, but in-game definitely uses lots of custom characters.
@pelimies18182 жыл бұрын
It’s always amazing to see smoother action on C64, than a $20000 PC a decade later. Fun Fact: Finland had the most C64s per capita in mid-late 80’s in the world. It cost c. 1300 USD converted to today’s rate, inc. joystick and cassette-station. That amount was equal to one month salary for well-paid engineer. The nicknames for C64 were plenty, including The Computer of the Republic, and Spruce Plank (spruce analogious to the number six in finnish).
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Spruce Plank? Is that for real?
@pelimies18182 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Sure, I used the name all the time - Kuuslankku, in finnish. Kuusnepa and Seekuusnelonen - as it was widely nicknamed.. Christmas 1985 shall never be forgotten :)
@ncf12 жыл бұрын
just Monstro Giganto, thats a classic! those guys are geniuses
@dennyhaynes32 жыл бұрын
I never knew Space taxi was Petscii graphics. Position 1 and 2 was perfect choices so much so I'm going to give them a play 👍
@KiR_3d2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, PETSCII has it's charm def.!
@Lucasrainford2 жыл бұрын
Well that was a bit different and very interesting. Until we was chatting the other night I'd never heard of em ever and thought they's look strange although now I've seen them I'm impressed! I've seen Bastow Manor and Space Taxi before but like yourself didn't take notice the gfx were different. A good few of these titles are pretty recent so there's a sub genre of these games? cool....
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Its a pretty weird way to make games like...but the results are staggering especially on Digiloi and that game ive missed
@EsmeAmelia2 жыл бұрын
Well I learned something interesting today.
@Simon02 жыл бұрын
I like the text adventures but never could make it very far. I remember the Hulk and famous five games. Pretty good
@arlasoft2 жыл бұрын
Bit confused by a few of these. Tower of Rubble - the only thing that looks PETSCII is the title screen. Space Taxi looks old school but definitely some custom chars in there. Still a cool video though and inspired me to put a PETSCII game on the to-do list.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are mate, like I said I dont really know about this stuff... although im sure Robin would have told me not to use them as he did with another game I had on the list originally which was NukeWar
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm missed this from Robin when we were talking....maybe I should have said this in the video "Oh yeah, and in your disclaimer you can say some of these games use hardware sprites and that's okay too. The aesthetic actually goes back to the C64 Christmas Demo that Commodore released. Hardware sprites overlaid on all PETSCII backgrounds."
@ybergik2 жыл бұрын
Throughout the video I kept saying: What about Space Taxi? Glad to see it was not forgotten, though the digitized voice is somehow missing on you version (?) It was one of the first games I played on the C64.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the voice is there but on every copy i play its a lot quieter than the sound effects
@chris-do2 жыл бұрын
the newer Soundchips SID8580 can´t reproduce this digi sounds at this high volume. You have to use the old 6581 SID or if you have a 8580 you can make a Digifix on the newer PCB´s
@The8BitGuy2 жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard time seeing any PETSCII used in Tower of Rubble or Space Taxi.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Yeah mate... well im not going to try and say you are wrong...like i said in the video i know absolutely nothing about the technical side of retro programming... i sort of understand what this PETSCII is as i use ASCII when i make game loader batch files etc. But other than that I recieved guidance from Robin (8-bit show and tell) and the short list of games came from a number of forums and sites. I then went and played all the games and got the the list down to 10... at which point i sent it back to Robin and the only game he said to take out was NukeWar. So maybe there isnt PETSCII in them... well im guessing cos you are saying there isnt then thats correct cos you obvs know your stuff..... im just good at playing games
@allan.n.72272 жыл бұрын
Lovely list.. To me - the best C64 petscii game is Donald Ducks Playground. My daugther loves to play this game as well..
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
ill check that out
@allan.n.72272 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming :-).. For what it is its actually quite amazing imo.. fun mini games, catchy tunes and important lessions on saving up, and the value of money.. As a bonus you can perform badly and make Donald angry 😂
@tamastabi31822 жыл бұрын
Can you tell the name of the music starting from 0:09 just after the intro (or give a link to it)? It is very cool.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
yeah its a remix of an ocean loader downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/c64-hits-1-back-to-the-roots/05%2520ocean%2520loader.mp3
@tamastabi31822 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Thank you!
@_.OX._2 жыл бұрын
No Monstro Giganto?
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I never even knew about that game and no one mentioned it...is it proper PETSCII ?
@_.OX._2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Full Petscii, probably the most impressive of it's kind - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGOZiHSifat6edU
@RobeenaShepherd2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming I really thought this would be #1 😂
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Guys my bad
@RobeenaShepherd2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Not a guy but enjoy it when you get to play it!
@jpcompton2 жыл бұрын
Weather War II. Also, Space Taxi is clearly a redefined charset.
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
That weather war II looks interesting it wasnt on my list but ill check it out...im not sure about Space Taxi...tbh Robin has explained it to me and I have read quite a bit about PETSCII but i still dont fully understand what it is and the differences between it and a redefined charset
@chris-do2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming if it is redifined then it isn´t petscii anymore :) Petscii means to use only the build in characters from the rom. 95% of the games are using redifned chars for the graphics if not a bitmapscreen is used
@atarimex26432 жыл бұрын
You missed Monstro Giganto….fantastic game!
@8BitNaptime2 жыл бұрын
What's the music from about 3:00 to 3:30? I feel like it's obvious but it's eluding me!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
yeah its a remix of an ocean loader you can listen to it or download it here along with loads of other great game music downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/c64-hits-1-back-to-the-roots/05%2520ocean%2520loader.mp3
@8BitNaptime2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Ooooh wasn't it also used in a demo? It's a good tune.
@asgerms2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't pick clips that simultaneously showcased the very charismatic speech in space taxi. Makes me wonder if you are playing it on a SID version where the hardware "bug" allowing speech was "fixed"? Thanks!
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
So the speech is there but its really quiet, its always been a problem for me on space taxi as the normal thrust / landing and music is the correct level but the voice is low and really you cant understand it anyway...maybe i have a broken rom or something but ive tried a few with the same results
@asgerms2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming I actually think it is because you use/emulate a modern SID. Speech is loud on my old breadbin (using original 6581 chip). Anyway, just wanted to make sure that you and your son got maximum enjoyment out of the game ;)
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
ill try it on my breadbin later and report back
@asgerms2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Sorry for "spamming", just forgot and went back for an edit. I have noticed how you very often comment on *how* much you enjoy the *beep* out of listening to SID music while gaming. Quite a few of these games use the sample-playing ability of the old SIDs to produce better drums on "an extra channel" etc., so you may be missing out. (A bug in the old SID causes a click when adjusting master volume. This click-bug was utilized for samplings and as an extra channel. On later SIDs the click-bug was almost removed and samplings almost disappeared).
@kirkjerk Жыл бұрын
Crossroads and Crossroads 2 :-D Just fill the screen with monsters
@PedroFerreira-sx2gd2 жыл бұрын
Great list, considering the dificulty of ir. Always surprising me. Space táxi is my favourite, but i have doubts if the clients sprites are made with petscii . There is Also a petscii versions of lemmings and portal that i never played, but looked great
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I played Pescii Lemings but was a bit too fiddly to play, im waiting for Robin to come back on Space Taxi to see what he says about the Petscii graphics
@jonpon692 жыл бұрын
Wicked upload
@jurispurins80652 жыл бұрын
I would have put Space Taxi as #1 As it has really withstood the test of time See if you can complete a 24 hour shift on 1 go - it gets hard as nails But never unfair A few little quirks or Easter Eggs in it I still play it today and since the beginning I’d love to see an episode on all the Gravity/Lander type games on the C64
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Ill defo look into that ive been playing Gravitar in a competition on Anstream and love that genre
@chloedevereaux1801 Жыл бұрын
what scrolling in the django game???? its flick screen..
@LeoDavidson2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you missed out Stroker. ;-D (Do not look that up at work, in public, or with family nearby, lol.)
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Lol i know what it is as a bloke used to always request it when i used to do live streams haha
@LeoDavidson2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming Haha :D It was quite, erm, educational to me as a young boy.
@ncf12 жыл бұрын
genius! Great idea!
@m0nde2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite content creators in one video! Thanks for this. I'm a big fan of ANSI art and follow 16colo.rs. I love the aesthetic of recent PETSCII games like Attack of the PETSCII Robots, Digiloi and a game you left off your list, Monstro Giganto, my personal favorite. I hope the trend continues and we get many more great PETSCII titles. Here's a link to Monstro GIganto's trailer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2UZplqmd2irtk
@marcusmalone2 жыл бұрын
Was Forbidden Forest a PETSCII game? That was pretty impressive, if yes.
@Mucker-le6ld2 жыл бұрын
Good to see do so much for your Patreon members. I mean who gives a shite about this other that that guy.
@JosipRetroBits2 жыл бұрын
PETSCII rules!!! Great games!
@gullpayne2 жыл бұрын
Cool games 👍
@garethbraint2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a play through of rags to riches. Its hard but I always found it quite addictive. Maybe you could cheat a little ?
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
Ill try that mate
@nythyhel2 жыл бұрын
Monstro Giganto???
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I never even knew about it.... i did say in the video that I didnt know this shit lol......i am proper pissed off though that ive missed it cos it looks class ...ive pinned a comment at the top on how ill try and rectify this
@nythyhel2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming fairplay. It's a cart only game so maybe tricky to get hold of. It's a cracker though.
@stephaneauger10362 жыл бұрын
ok..eehh. wow,,and super wow....that all o got to say!,,oh no thank you too
@meelboom2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see jumpman or jumpman jr on the list
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
I dont think they are Petscii though are they?
@anttipere72202 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming nope
@BigJuffer2 жыл бұрын
There's some kind of witchcraft going on here, where did they learn to program? Hogwarts??? Never heard of pesky graphics before but some of these are amazing looking
@oldstylegaming2 жыл бұрын
PESCII, what you are taking about is at the end of Scooby Doo when the baddy sasy i would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you pesky kids.......
@BigJuffer2 жыл бұрын
@@oldstylegaming it was old man Withers instead of old style gaming
@michelefrank38252 жыл бұрын
😇 P-R-O-M-O-S-M!
@Blur20402 жыл бұрын
Awhile back, I made a point to pay no more attention to the 8-Bit Guy because he's a gun psycho. I don't care if you like guns, but the dude is weird. Also, the thing where he's a serial KZbinr with several dead channels on other topics. Also weird.