The 12,000 Year Old Mystery of Swedish DNA: Nameless Ancestors

[@galenbjorn443]

thank you for not posting some black African looking dude that claims to be Swedish or Scandinavian ancestors. We have been what we are for long long time

[@michaelweigel2466]

I thought the same thing when I saw the video ;) There is a lot of nonsense and political framing when it comes to migration. “We are all Africans and must not have anything against mass migration, is the message.” Definitely not.

[@carinaekstrom1]

Which is a very mixed people as you would have gathered from the video.

[@annstarbuck5942]

Indeed, I am one fourth Swedish. My grandfather was a full Swede. Due to immigration to America, he married a non-Swede. I have often wondered … I am yellow thick wavy hair and blue eyes. DNA is interesting

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well, the more you know 👍🏾

[@jonaskarlberg1855]

We are Swedish Ann

[@JoachimVärlinder]

25% ok you’re an Swede in my book. Do you know which part of Sweden he came from?? If he came from the east coast you probably have some Finnish or Slavic in you There been a lot of mingling on the Baltic Sea.. And some looting with that

[@joellarsson9486]

@JoachimVärlinder a lot of finns in the forests of Värmland too.

[@HistoryBeyondBordersTV]

This video is excellent and provides a comprehensive overview of the genetic history of the Swedish people. I was particularly impressed with the way you integrated archaeological findings, genetic research, and historical accounts.

[@jompaswede5384]

Informative. There is a lot of misleading info going around about the early swedes and our heritage.

[@joellarsson9486]

I'm from Hälsingland and Härjedalen. In this area we have alot more hunter gatherer dna than the 10 % spoken of in this film. It's true for southern Sweden but not here. My the results of my dna sample was 99 % Scandinavian (Swedish). 51% ancient hunter gatherer, only 14% steppe immigration and the rest EEF (early european farmer). Others dna samples from this area had similar results.

[@sheep1ewe]

Interesting, I am not born here, but my mother is, a thing i often wonder about is that how much cross ower it was with the Same people and if so if it can possibly be traced in the DNA of people living here?

[@christina1764]

​I am a Dane, but I think Sami DNA can be tracked in some Swedes. They have tracked Sami DNA in some Norwegians.

[@4further.information]

Speaker says 10-20% but that is to low, male haplogroups is 35-45% SHG . Then he claims 1/3 is I1 and calls it "viking Ancestry"😂 Fortunately there are youtube clips referrering to actual scientific studies: the whole Germanic language/culture first began in the bronze age with I1 "seal-hunters" in the Stockholm archipelago, a mix of SHG, indoeuropeans and possibly new arrivals of EHG from the Baltic side. Google McColl et al 2024. Also Reich et al 2024 is a break through...

[@joellarsson9486]

@christina1764 sure ofc some Swedes have Sami dna just as the sami have ours. Sami doesn't have the pitted ware culture component that Swedes have though. And im unsure if those dna tests show Sami dna. I've heard it just says Finnish ancestry. Will take another dna test in the future when they are more advanced and specific.

[@sheep1ewe]

@@joellarsson9486 Thank You, Yes, maybe the Same DNA is not that distinct as taught previously, which make sense whan one think about it. It would be pretty cool to have however. I found traces of German ancestors in my DNA for some reason, must be from immigrants in historical times. I taught that was limited to the south, but maybe not...

[@ProgMannen]

Very informative and very well done... BUT.. the leap from bronze age to viking age had.. nothing ? That's a leap of about 1300 years ! And we had a period called "migration period" where many groups fluctuated in or out from and to sweden. Guess that too much happened thru those times and hard to get a hold on. But would be very interresting to know more about. Did a lot of swedes/scandinavians migrate ? Where did they go ? 400-550 AD was our migration period. 550-800 AD is vendel time. The history is very much a blank sheet from this 2 periods with not that much information.

[@Checkyoursix77]

During the Iron Age and migration period the Scandinavian population spread out of Scandinavia to the rest of Europe. The origin of the Germanic peoples is Scandinavia. Cimbrian, Goths…

[@4further.information]

Please se my comment below!

[@KevinBrady-fy3cx]

My mother is from Ireland and had U4 mtdna. That'd rare in Ireland - its nice to see such an informative film that includes her people (the hunter - gathers)

[@joellarsson9486]

@@KevinBrady-fy3cx everybody was hunter gatherers if you go back far enough.

[@4further.information]

Speaker claims 1/3 is I1 and calls it "viking Ancestry"😂 Fortunately there are youtube clips referrering to actual scientific studies: the whole Germanic language/culture first began in the bronze age with I1 "seal-hunters" in the Stockholm archipelago, a mix of SHG, indoeuropeans and possibly new arrivals of EHG from the Baltic side. Google McColl et al 2024. Also Reich et al 2024 is a break through...

[@Checkyoursix77]

@@4further.information Exactly! The lack of knowledge about the Nordic Bronze Age and the origins of the Germanic culture and people are widespread. The Vikings period was just the end of the Germanic culture reaching back to the late Stone Age early Bronze Age. Thank you for spreading knowledge!

[@philthycat1408]

I’m sure their spears would have been a lot better than , what looks like, some branch snapped from a tree.

[@bjaMoke]

Passed right over the current population invasion, didn't we?

[@Vaper779]

The Norse gods were brought to Sweden by the step migration.

[@sisselnilsen4699]

Should we stop connecting genetics with policy???

[@peta1001]

Well, quite a good story...I just could not figure out the inspiration... fiction, fantasy or religion.

[@CreativeHuckleBerry]

PH: I-L258 MH: H1 Ostrobothnia Finland

[@meetjr.9295]

Is this I1 ?

[@carlsiren]

Migration shaped Sweden. Yes, but it was migration from neighbouring countries. Not like today.

[@DonnaGisellaTranchel]

Please... Read Up!!!🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪✨

[@carlsiren]

@ What do you mean? I’ve read more than most people I would argue. The Nordic peoples are largely created by WHG and EHG, with a touch of the corded ware culture and the battle axe culture.

[@sabter126]

Did haplogroup I1 enter Scandinavia with Indo-Europeans or did it already exist there?

[@Söderlund11]

I thought I1 came with the first hunter/gatherers

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@Söderlund11 So, pre-Indo European?

[@alicelund147]

It is not clear yet. The earliest that has been found is in an individual from present day Sweden from 1930-1750 BC (He is called "oll009"). It is the Senneolitikum/hällkisttid/dolktid (Swedish archaeological period, different names for the same period) that is a archaeological period that spread quickly over all of Southern Scandinavia replacing 3 mayor different cultures in the area. Last year a Danish study connects the spread of I1 in Scandinavia with a population they call "Eastern Scandinavians" that are closely related to the Battle Axe culture; but not genetically exactly the same (Battle Axe culture and Single Grave culture does not have I1). "Eastern Scandinavians" have some additional Eastern Hunter gatherer DNA so they speculate that they came across the Baltic Sea from the Baltics. The information in this video is very simplified and partly outdated.

[@erikrahbekstergaard1402]

@@Söderlund11 Most sources agree with you.

[@joellarsson9486]

​​​@@alicelund147where was oll009 found? Part of the pitted ware culture that was assimilated in to the battle axe culture?

[@erikrahbekstergaard1402]

It should also be noted that in Sweden there is a large proportion 4% of haplogroup Q-M242, especially concentrated in Götaland. These are genes that originate in Siberia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q-M242

[@carinaekstrom1]

Everyone originates in Africa, but some made stopovers in Siberia, etc.

[@bobwelo]

[@chrisholmes9625]

100% northman

[@sositehui6483]

"Key roles in trade and governance in cities like Novgorod" Outdated info, it was a full province.

[@goheine]

Didn’t the Goths come from Sweden? 🇸🇪

[@ingemarsjoo4542]

It is a disputed question.

[@alriktyrving5051]

@@ingemarsjoo4542Not anymore. There are genetic evidence now that proove without a doubt that the Goths have eastern Scandinavian ancenstry, most probably Gotlandic/Gutnish.

[@rhawk4321]

I 1 swede

[@norsemankv6472]

Scandinavian and Balkan? Shit errors like that .. Baltic !

[@johnlord8337]

These Swedish people were pre-Adamites. 12,000 - 3443 BCE are humanoid people as old as the Triassic-Jurassic-Cretaceous dinosaur and humanoid footprints in river beds 252.2-60 MYA. Biblical Adamites were created 3443 BCE onwards. The biggest Scandinavian ancestral DNA comes from the Zara-ite branch of Judah Israelites, leaving the Nile Delta of Egypt ~1350s BCE. Ethan (Odin) son of Zara (Osiris) settled colonies across greater Scandinavia. Dara (Thor) settled colonies across greater Germania and the Lowlands. And other great immigrations would be from the 400-600s CE of the Chinese, northern India, and eastern Persia into Scandinavia and Germany. Later, the Golden Horde, Yellow Horde of Mongolians would also come into Germania and Scandinavia.

[@mossig]

Odins ancestors where Etruskans from the Italian east coast as can be seen in the futhark alfabet and DNA. They where in the middle east but not for long. When Solomons temple was destroid they migrated north into different areas. Some settled in Az gaard by the Azov sea and some in the Volga delta. Odin meaning number one, was not a name but a title for their leader. A group of them settled around the Baltic sea. They are the origin for human sacrifices during the Viking age. One has to remember that the elite was always a minority and the commoners had different Croatian origin ever since the first Odin arrived.

[@johnlord8337]

@@mossig Your Odin is the younger of the 2 Odins mentioned. Mine is Ethan (Odin) of the 1350s BCE, while yours is in the 500s BCE. And yes the 2nd Odin did migrate into the northern areas

[@Christian_Johansson]

Religion is for dumb people, science and religion can't coexist. We (swedes) are no damn "judah israelites", are you high or something?

[@wheeltire2587]

​@@mossig Croatian orgin? I don't understand

[@richardmiller7239]

Total nonsense!