The 12,000 year old road of Vermont: Part 1

An introduction to the first major road of Vermont.
Sources:
www.crownpointroad.org/home/hi...
archive.org/details/historica...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_P...
www.dar.org/national-society/...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont...
vermonthistoryexplorer.org/th...

[@mostdopecaptain3350]

Great video! I was born in Vermont and am on a journey of discovering my families past and the history of where I call home so this video was awesome to watch!

[@bmepdoc9675]

Fascinating as well as illuminating. What I also find boggling is there are door knobs and window panes throughout Europe still in use today which - in many cases - predate all of this. - Thank you for the upload.

[@newenglandgreenman]

This sort of thing exists all over North America. The Camino Real of California was laid out along indigenous paths. In eastern Massachusetts where I live, Bay Road was part of an ancient pathway from Massachusetts Bay to Narragansett Bay. On Long Island, Montauk Highway follows an ancient indigenous pathway connecting fords across creeks along the south shore of the island. We are still walking (or driving) in the footsteps of the original peoples.

[@Clarkticus]

Grew up right next to Bay road. Frequently thought about the many generations of people who have traveled here in the past after I learned this.

[@guyincognito210]

I'm in Chicago. Most of the angled streets are old indian trails. You can probably take it a step further as most probably started as small game trails, then larger and finally humans.

[@bruceleez5292]

Proof of arrowheads or take it back

[@myaschaefer6597]

Great job! 🙌Tho I now live in Iowa, I loved your video. Two Thumbs Up!👍👍 Your video touches me deeply as I grew up in WMass, Charlemont, where the book "Boy's of the Boarder" chronicles part of the French and Indian War, highly recommend it if you haven't already read it. When we were kids we'd go hunting for arrowheads, along the Deerfield River. Also, some cycling friends of mine and I once attempted to traverse a part of The Crown Point Road bike...that was a tough day...but a dandy one! 🙂

[@MisterKackhaufen]

Please make part 3, the ancient past is the interesting part

[@mysteriousmountains]

It's a work in progress

[@dennismacwilliams196]

Great video, lots of info I never know !

[@iscovidoveryet7828]

American History books are flawed when it comes to certain facts. But that's not a coincidence... is it?

[@smelltheglove2038]

This was a great video. Way better than anything on PBS

[@harrylime8077]

12k year old road! That's In the last ice age, Vermont it would have been under a couple thousand feet of Ice and snow!

[@na2cho]

Not all of Vermont. Go back a few wipes and we were near the North Pole as well. Source: cia’s declassified files.

[@phiddlephart7026]

A road built in 1759 & the title says 12,000 yo road, a difference of 11,241? Did I miss any part of the video about a 12,000 yo road?

[@mysteriousmountains]

This is a three part presentation, part three is going to cover the ancient past. Parts one/two cover the creation of the Crown Point Road during the French and Indian War. How that road was based off the Indian Road. Part two covers using historical records to locate the road.

[@phiddlephart7026]

@@mysteriousmountains my apologies 🤐, I didn't notice it had 3 parts. Thanks for responding so quickly.

[@VaxtorT]

The Abenaki haven't even been here for 12,000 years. No modern Native Americans have been here for 12,000 years. .....1800 years at best.

[@mysteriousmountains]

@@VaxtorT Where are you finding this idea?

[@phiddlephart7026]

@@VaxtorT ummm... I asked the guy & he said this was the first video in the series so I'm gonna give him a chance & then ask questions when he is finished

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

Even Broadway (broad way) in Manhattan was originally a native road. The plagues and diseases spread through the natives so fast and with such a horrific death rate, because they had no antibodies or immunity against the diseases that were carried by the Europeans. The death rate was much higher than can ever be calculated.

[@josephfisk2023]

I happened to pause your video at 2:41 to read the article written in 1870. It states that James Monroe was in command at Fort William Henry in 1757. James Moroe who would become President, was born in 1758. That would have been George Monro, at Fort William Henry, wouldn't it? Interesting that many old documents can contain such large errors.

[@havable]

There might have been another James Monroe, too.

[@mountainmyst9026]

Robovoice sounds like the weather band radio

[@robalexander2591]

The music hurt my ears because my speaker was blasting 😂😂 Great information though !!

[@michaeljoyce2096]

I am quite sure, when the settlers first came to the land. They made themselves through the land using a trail made by the natives. In time those trails became roads.

[@reensure]

A great misperception of the time was that Indians in the NE just moved in when the "old ones" died and assumed their ways. One cause of the misunderstanding was that natives had no knowledge of ancient works or a written history to support their rights to lands, so they were viewed by Europeans as children with a catalog of 'make believe', only to be tolerated and moved as it suited the colonists.

[@iscovidoveryet7828]

@@reensure The Abanaki had a PetroGlyphic "written language in stone'', about the same time the pyramids were built. Symbols which can still be interpreted.... And they even had an advanced society while, at a time when even the 'richest' Anglos still slept in the same structures along side of their own livestock.

[@reensure]

@@iscovidoveryet7828 I wonder if the spirituality of Amerindians is comparable to the spiritualities contemporaneous in world civilization. Today, a popular view is that the natives here during colonization had a well-regulated social equity unique to world history, but I tend to think we've forgotten our own time as a 'spiritual' people that was largely obliterated after contact with Rome and Assyria before them.

[@arizonaarmadillo5829]

Why is the guy speaking like a NOAA Weather Radio robot?

[@HM2SGT]

lol reminds me of the sound blaster sound card speech emulator I had in the early 90s, Dr. SBAITSO

[@cynthiarowley719]

I still don't see part 3. I'm bummed

[@Sea-Keith]

Can you share where to find part 1 and 3 ? I am subscribed,but can't find..

[@Musician-Songwriter]

You're watching Part 1, Here's Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imKcfoqGr7War68 and I don't think there's a Part 3.

[@JayPooler]

nice local history

[@vermontmann1876]

So what do they call this road today in Vermont..

[@leeworks3562]

89

[@mmercier0921]

few people know that the natives were mostly dead when we got here. whatever the Europeans were carrying, it was devastating. happened in the west too.

[@finddeniro]

Scioto River Trail...3- 4 thousand years old..Ohio .. You knows...Old magic..

[@shadetreader]

Turn down the cheesy music and lose the robotic voice.

[@TahoeJones]

Losing sucks. It's rather historical everywhere.

[@johnberry3824]

Why does the cadence of your narration sound like an artificial voice?

[@HM2SGT]

Well, if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck… 🤷‍♂️😏

[@markwilliamson2795]

Indians followed the trails the animals made then other men from most other Countries the British , Russian , French and others....they all wanted the land don't fool yourself

[@patgalvez4563]

PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS NEED LAND.....

[@rebeccadubois8270]

Need a voice over artist, I'll do it.

[@danaxtell2367]

I agree that 8 minutes of a synthesized voice in 2023 is hard to take. It will improve, eventually. In the meantime, I recommend speeding up the video to 1.5x in the playback settings. You don't lose any subtleties in the narration because there are none.

[@HM2SGT]

Belknap... *BELLK NAP?* _BELLK NAP?!_ 😳😹 _Bell_ _Nap_, sir.

[@tuckhorse]

👍🇺🇸🤠

[@RedArrow73]

My 7th grade English teacher proved once again that the simplest explanation was likely the most accurate: The Common Cold.

[@dougthompson8226]

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[@JohnStark72]

If you're insisting that the Republic of Vermont started in January of 1777, then your research has a hole. The Republic was officially created at Windham Tavern on the 7th of July, 1777.

[@mysteriousmountains]

The state was founded in January 1777, when delegates from 28 towns met and declared independence from the jurisdictions and land claims of the British colonies of Quebec, New Hampshire, and New York. The republic remained in existence for the next fourteen years, albeit without diplomatic recognition from any foreign power. On March 4, 1791, it was admitted into the United States as the State of Vermont, with the constitution and laws of the independent state continuing in effect after admission. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Republic#:~:text=The%20Vermont%20Republic%20(French%3A%20R%C3%A9publique,%2C%20to%20March%204%2C%201791.

[@JohnStark72]

@@mysteriousmountains That's where your problem is. You're getting your information from Wikipedia, which is a spurious source.

[@mysteriousmountains]

@@JohnStark72 ballotpedia.org/Vermont_Republic vermontmaturity.com/vermont-history/the-vermont-republic-the-story-of-when-vermont-was-an-independent-country/ ancestralfindings.com/vermont/ dbpedia.org/page/Vermont_Republic

[@Shivaho]

Intentional Genocide

[@naymayabiksnibi]

What is not mysterious is how the Original Native peoples, 500 Nations of Turtle Island, Kept pristine lands for many millenia, before the white man's reign of disaster of around 500 years, which will be his end.

[@taliaperkins1389]

Idiot, there is no such thing as "the Noble Savage". In North America the indigenous people heavily modified their surroundings, and were limited in doing so only in lesser the capabilities of their technology.

[@joeyank2451]

Idiot

[@taliaperkins1389]

@@joeyank2451 Everyone who believes the "Noble Savage" myth is

[@taliaperkins1389]

@@Automedon2 Apparently we are vaguely in agreement, although you have written a reply to me as if we disagree. I would not go nearly so far as to say that if the native Americans had had greater technology they would definitely have made any animals extinct than they did with lesser technology, what I'm saying is that their cultures and genetics had no better nasure then the Europeans who encountered them in the 1500s add on.

[@stevewhite7426]

We’re they killed by God or by lord Jeffery Amherst and his generous gift of blankets?

[@mysteriousmountains]

In the book 1491written by Charles C. Mann says the likely outbreak was caused by hepatitis A.

[@stevewhite7426]

@@mysteriousmountains It was the blanket coverage!

[@itcantbetruebutis7778]

@@stevewhite7426 our whole history is covered in old blankets that society has finally begun to poke holes thru... that is a small % of those whom still control their own minds... what lies beneath has been sinister

[@neeleynonea]

@@stevewhite7426 blankets usually infected with smallpox taken from victims

[@neeleynonea]

@@mysteriousmountains 1941 was minimum 35 years before whites started to admit what they had done to the original people in north American. Pretty much most things written before the 70s did not tell the truth about the treatment of aboriginals.

[@VaxtorT]

The Abenaki are not the original Indigenous peoples of the Northeast. All present day Native Americans are descendants of a wave of migration that crossed the Bering Straight in canoes after 200AD.. This wave brought diseases to which the original Indigenous people had no immunity. The remainder were either conquered and killed or assimilated. Ironically, this same scenario played out again when the Europeans arrived.

[@mysteriousmountains]

Where did you hear about this idea?

[@shazamshazamshazam696]

That once "fact," has been discarded by more recent archaeology and dna testing of the remains found from Alaska to the Southern tip of S. America,

[@christinelozier3511]

Archeologist Robert Sephre has discussed the more recent findings that led to the Bering Straight migration actually from Asia into the N.and S. American continents rather than the reverse.

[@shazamshazamshazam696]

​@@christinelozier3511 His opinions are out of step with the leading edge of geneticists.

[@iscovidoveryet7828]

@@mysteriousmountains Probably from Fux News...

[@emerymyers7748]

You mean 200 year old road!!!