The Vermont Republic

In disputed territory, colonial politics led to a call for independence different from, but intertwined with, the war with the British. The History Guy recalls when Vermont stood for fourteen years as a nation unto itself. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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[@runekked]

As a proud vermonter its great to see our revolution get its due. Got to love the fact that we blackmailed our way into statehood.

[@robholt4618]

Live in New Hampshire. I recall a few pages in a textbook on this. Learned more in 8 minutes than 12 years of school. As a fellow history buff, I am very appreciative of how The History Guy relates history to the why and how we are today.

[@hshs5756]

Teaching history as names and dates with no context or meaning is intended to turn students off to history so they won't notice when it's being repeated.

[@allanlank]

@@hshs5756 Excellent observation.

[@theob.8458]

Im from Mass and we were never taught this.

[@c182SkylaneRG]

I also live in NH. Honestly, I've seen a map where VT was part of NH, and never even knew it was actually part of NY, instead. Now that The History Guy made a video about it, I vaguely remember hearing something about VT being independent for a little while, but honestly, when trying to rattle off the 13 original colonies, I either screw up which ones were which, or I assume VT was still part of NH at the time.

[@drowssapma]

Never was taught this. We should combine the 3 northern states and form our own nation once Civil War II happens. MA never has had our best interests in mind, nor NY. We are just a place to go see the leaves turning in October.

[@VideoCesar07]

Never ceased to amaze me how much we DON'T know about history. -School history: All the colonies united harmoniously to fight for the independence of all the states under one flag -History Guy: Let me tell you what really happened...

[@williammagoffin9324]

@kenny desee Yep, there was a Russian squadron stationed on the East Coast to counter any potential threat from a European power that might intervene on behalf of the Confederacy. In the end, the CSA failed to get much support from Europe anyways.

[@neeneko]

The problem with history is there is just so much of it. Delaware was another state that does not fit neatly into the simplified history, though not quite as dramatically as Vermont.

[@VideoCesar07]

@kenny desee That's amazing. This is certainly something I never, ever heard about.

[@williammagoffin9324]

@kenny desee The Russians sent three naval expeditions to the US during the Civil War, one by the Finnish (Finland was an autonomous part of the Russian empire with its own military at the time) corvette Kalevala to San Francisco, another being a six ship squadron to the West Coast with corvettes Kalevala, Bogatyr, Rynda and Novik with two clippers Abrek and Vsadnik (or Gaidamak? depends on source) and a six ship squadron to the East Coast consisting of screw frigates Alexander Nevski, Almaz, Osliaba, frigate Perseviet, plus sloops Variag and Vitiaz.

[@VideoCesar07]

@kenny desee Now I want to read a lot more about this. It's crazy to think that a near world war could have been possible in the 1860s, and considering how closely many European powers were watching the US Civil War along with the tactics and modern weapons for the time, who knows how devastating it could have been for all involved. Amazing stuff to learn about.

[@kevind814]

History that deserves to be ... taught in school in the first place.

[@eliscanfield3913]

It is, actually. At least in my schools

[@DColcla]

Kevin D perfectly stated!

[@richardnoggin3884]

green mountain boys and ethan allen are part of history in missouri schools at least...

[@poshboy4749]

Or you could open a book and not expect the surface level history they teach at school to cover everything.

[@jefferywilliams4533]

@@poshboy4749 I read a lot, and have since my parents taught me to at age 4, and had never heard of this. There is simply too much out there to find it all. Schools should have a more comprehensive history education, particularly in regards to the our nation and how it came to be.

[@ConnieGeldreich22]

This was interesting and informative. My now deceased husband was a Trowbridge and a descendant of one of the Green Mountain Boys. It's a shame we don't know the history anymore. They had a pretty interesting history.

[@jonathanschadenfreude9603]

Iroquois Nation was stong

[@mikebronicki6978]

This puts a whole new light on Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys!

[@ronfullerton3162]

I always would hear about the Green Mountain Boys, but no one went ahead and explained their importance. This fresh off the presses video is as fulfilling as all it's predecessors in giving us our history that has been lost through time gone by. Thanks to the History Guy!

[@robrod3097]

@@ronfullerton3162 Indeed.... It is so sad, that our people before us decided to take away so much from our history... It is sad indeed, as it is through personal histories that each person is made to become their own individual with values, that will contribute to the ever changing formulas of our society and development for an ever thriving a d changing nation. Just think where we would be nowadays if we were not robbed from pieces of valuable history​ such as this one... Where will our future generations be, with all the thievery of such has been going on since two, maybe three decades ago.... starting from when prayer was taken away from the classrooms​

[@jordanulery524]

Seth Warner and Ethan Allen and distilled adult beverages is a topic worth discussing!

[@TedBronson1918]

@@jordanulery524 back in the 1700's, just about every farmer made some kind of "adult beverage", I think. Europeans brought the dandelion to America because of it's usefulness and because they used it to make wine. Ethan Allen wasn't special if he ran a distillery, except for not paying NY taxes. George Washington ran a distillery too. The water wasn't trustworthy back then. Alcoholism was a problem.

[@jordanulery524]

TedBronson1918 it is said ‘the Founding Fathers were either drunk or high most of the day’ as a reference to the poor water quality and frequent use of a common, cheaply grown, readily available, weed to replace or supplement expensive and hard to obtain north of Virginia, tobacco.

[@Vtmtnman42]

Many Texans are surprised when I tell them Vermont too, was an independent republic.Many thanks from us in "The Grants."

[@seafodder6129]

Count me among them. I was like "Wait, what?!" I was aware of Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys but had no idea that Vermont was an independent republic for a time. Thanks, THG, for broadening my knowledge of history once again!

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

That dog will hunt. 🤠👍

[@ripred42]

Agreed, and Vermont was independent for 4 years longer!

[@ArchYeomans]

Yeah AND you can Consitutional carry a weapon in Vermont. Tough Texas ain't so tough no more.

[@GabrielUngacta]

As a Texan I wasnt suprised. I was more "Oh yeah, I forget about that."

[@SuperHigear]

"History that deserves to be remembered." And my 4th Great Grandfather was a part of it! Being a young man he moved out of his parent's home in Washington county, Rhode Island and relocated in Bennington, Vermont in the late 1770s. He married in 1785 and continued to live and farm in the area of Bennington for the rest of his life. Which makes this episode of the History Guy very meaningful for me. Thank you History Guy!!!

[@irishjw]

Mine was a Captain in Regular Continental Army Buried on Carpenter Hill in Family cemetery. Side note in Civil war Vermont had highest % of casualties close to highest in war on terror. In word Vermonters are not afraid to join combat unit.

[@SuperHigear]

James McSherry : which means we are two of the lucky few who were born to carry the genes, & the DNA of true American Patriots within our veins. I consider it an honor...

[@b_uppy]

That is fascinating. Loved history in school but don't recall ever seeing maps like yours.

[@cheersgxp2466]

B uppy used to do when I went to school in 50/60s and when I taught in late 60s

[@b_uppy]

@@cheersgxp2466 Would have added something to see them, I think.

[@frankthomas2231]

Thanks History Guy for this little tidbit of Vermont history. I was born and raised in Vermont, now living in Nashville, TN. I don`t remember any of this from my history classes in school.

[@DominikQuesnel]

I was also born, in Vermont. I was never taught this either

[@TedBronson1918]

THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS SUBJECT ! Vermont is so often just ignored when people talk about Texas or Hawaii being independent nations before becoming States ! I'm glad you tackled it. Thanks again.

[@p.w.5199]

Morning coffee and the history Guy!!! doesn't get any better then this!

[@jameskwaka]

Lying in bed at 10.30 pm on the other side of the planet listening to the history guy...just as good.

[@ronfullerton3162]

@@jameskwaka Doesn't matter what time of day it is, THG's look at history forgotten is always a wonderful addition to ones day.

[@SL-ix4yk]

Right on. Esp since here I sit in my home state of VT

[@Dkthearn]

Morning coffee and a joint

[@constancemiller3753]

After work tea and ginger snaps. High five🖐

[@SkipTerrio]

Units of the modern day Vermont Army National Guard and Air National Guard are still known as the "Green Mountain Boys".

[@Gson...]

Jack I think they were first on scene at ground zero. Unarmed no less.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Our Air National Guard is extremely good as well. We were the first to get F-35s. 5 of them. The real Green Mountain Boys are all the hunters and woodsmen that live here. It is known.

[@ckvt1337]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow yeah the first loud, annoying and expensive f-35s without consessions for locals, ever had one of those fuckers fly over your house its not fun

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@ckvt1337 Yea, people dont like em but it is what it is. Better friendly jets than enemy.

[@pedrotheswift5937]

From a non-American its amazing just how much fighting your country has done,, first to settle it, then as narrated here, to define it, then between yourselves, then around the world,, it explains why the Flag is flown so proudly throughout your lands.

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

I'm sitting here looking at a gallon of Ethan Allen paint. My elderly neighbor asked me to paint a room for her! That's Spooky History Guy, as usual!🎨🖌

[@LuvSubbin]

As a Vermonter from Bennington, thank you for remembering this history.

[@chuckvt5196]

Having lived in Vermont for 24 years, I can relate to this. Thank you!

[@irishjw]

Next year you can drop being called a Flatlander.

[@HockeyMetalRPG]

As a Vermont History Buff, I thank you for posting this. It really tells of the great formation of my great state.

[@HockeyMetalRPG]

@@overlord8658 The Liberal flood of the 1960's. All the old Far Left Liberals from the 50's and 60's into the 70's moved up here to find better living space and converted Vermont's once conservative leaning into Liberals. Now there are still pockets of conservatives, mainly in Northeastern part of the state (the most rural).

[@cathyvanasse4886]

@@HockeyMetalRPG I feel for you sir. It must be hell.

[@uptown_rider8078]

@@HockeyMetalRPG I’m sorry that your state has been flooded with liberals, I know how terrible that must be.

[@matthewchapin7899]

@@HockeyMetalRPG not so fast, our state was one the most prominent in the tempertist movement in the late 19th century primarily lead by women. this has always been a progressive state

[@ldg2655]

I have heard mention of the Green Mountain Boys since I was a young girl, but apparently was never clear on who they were and what they did..... Now, nearing 60, this is the very first time that I ever heard of Vermont being it’s own republic. Thank you, History Guy, for keeping history alive..

[@AdmiralPureBlood]

I find it funny that even way back then people found New York to be insufferable

[@spectreagent00]

On behalf of all New Yorkers, I would like to formally apologize. We really were acting like dicks.

[@johndufford5561]

It's not our fault that we are as we are & have the attitudes we have. Think about it: for us, the light at the end of the tunnel, is New Jersey.....

[@martinsnyder4947]

New York still has not changed

[@PanzerDave]

I live in the People's Republic of New York (specifically in NYC) and it is true. Sadly, it has become even worse under comrades Cuomo and de Blasshole. Too many of my fellow citizens forget that there is an entire wonderful country outside of our city and state.

[@Simonsvids]

Have to laugh at these comments. It seems New York is to the USA what London is to the UK!

[@f16pilotjumper]

Native Vermonter here - so excited to see this get it's own History Guy video!

[@MrArcher0]

I admire how the history guy chooses not to take political, racial or any other side. But chooses to tell stories that reflect current issues in today’s society. Providing valuable lessons we need to remember that occurred through out history. I have taken to calling them, “sermons of history.” Well done sir, well done.

[@kikufutaba1194]

As this is only my second year in the United States, I am very interested in all American History. I find your channel and content wonderful and you would be a knowledgeable Sensei. Thank you for your efforts and channel.

[@bazonka1]

Welcome!

[@skippindocs5793]

Welcome to the us pal now just vote republicans so we can welcome more people like you!

[@erikcomstock7359]

Local Vermonter here! Love the history and live along the crown point road. Amazing history here and would love to hear more

[@astrorad2000]

Thank you for posting. My father served in the 94th Infantry division during WW2 and one of his fellow soldiers was Ethan Allen, a direct descendant of the Ethan Allen in your story. I remember Ethan Allen visiting our family a few times during my youth.

[@RossTFarnsworth]

Growing up in Windsor VT, “the birthplace of Vermont “ my 6 grade teacher taught Vermont history, after she retired, she taught it it the Windsor correctional facility to inmates working on their education. Many people don’t realize that parts of New Hampshire were part of the republic.

[@dirtcop11]

What fascinates me most about history is the fact that the people of that period were not aware of the ramifications of the events happening around them. The things that became "important" in history often didn't affect them immediately, it became important months or years later.

[@marknesselhaus4376]

All through my school years in the 60's/70's and beyond, I never knew that part of history. Thank you :-)

[@cbalparda]

Vermonter here! Our national guard still uses the flag from the green mountain boys and there’s a session movement that started in the 70s that uses that same flag today. You can see it flying throughout the state if you know what to look for.

[@deadmeatdec2164]

Never knew Vermont had been it's own nation nor did i know that Vermont was derived from French for green mountain. As always a good entertaining and educational video for not only me but my kids. Thank you

[@JonasVilander]

Speaking as a Son of the Republic of Texas who has only had the privilege of visiting Vermont and experiencing the beauty of both it's landscape as well as it's multi-generational citizens for a few short weeks, I find this a wonderfully illuminating video of Vermont's rich history at the advent and contemporary period of American Revolutionary history! Long live the memory of the Green Mountain Boys!

[@thomas316]

The tradition is still alive in New Zealand. Whangamomona declared itself a republic in 1989 when they where unhappy with border changes. 🤷🏻‍♂️ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whangamomona

[@jakedee4117]

Try to raise a posse of a hundred or so armed men and see how long your "Republic" lasts. "Power grows out of the barrel of a gun" Mao Zedong

[@user-tm4bi1nl4q]

So cute!

[@swimasfastasyoucan]

I just read that article..it was funny as hell.im from NZ too

[@mongolike513]

Thank god god for NZ.

[@wendychavez5348]

I love learning new or forgotten facts. After my brain injury, it started being very difficult to know which memories are real and which I fabricated out of air; you help me realize that sometimes facts can be even stranger than imagination.

[@geoben1810]

@ Wendy Chavez The original saying is; Truth can be stranger than fiction. 😲

[@chadlevasseur4677]

Reading the Vermont political tradition by William Doyle !! Living in Vermont my whole life I love seeing these kinds of videos!

[@rppvt]

I grew up with Levasseurs, another long-time Vermont name.

[@chadlevasseur4677]

@@rppvt my family both mother's side and father's side have been in the Vermont/New England area for generations. There is record of some of my mother's side dating back to the years before the republic.

[@rppvt]

@@chadlevasseur4677 As did my mothers' family -- Halls. Still there.

[@jordanulery524]

Gen John Stark, the forgotten patriot general, needs to be remembered as he was likely the best Revolutionary General. Battle of Bennington. Stronger together, in Latin, was the first motto of New Hampshire. Gen Stark’s letter to his old comrades in Bennington is the source of today’s motto “Live Free or Die”. The second phrase is also important: “For there are Things Worse Than Death”. The 14 branched pine tree was from Arlington, just north of Bennington. Arlington itself, as first Capital city of Vermont, home of artists and poets is also a worthy subject - don’t forget the unpublished drawings of Norman Rockwell still in the high school. Marble for the nations capital from Manchester, the armed shooting war with New Hampshire in the Upper Connecticut Valley and why is the boundary between NH and Vt on the Vermont side rather than down the middle of the Connecticut are all interesting, forgotten tidbits worthy of an expansion on this topic.

[@JohnStark72]

To all you've said, I reply: "Hear, hear!"

[@michaelv3340]

The town I live in, Starkville, Mississippi, is named after him.

[@JohnStark72]

@@michaelv3340 A town near where I live is called Starksboro.

[@Vtmtnman42]

A video could be done on Stark's life alone.Caputured by the Abenaki and brought to Canada in his youth,Rogers Rangers,Rev war service.Amazing man.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Until I retired, I was a lifelong resident of Vermont. We certainly knew this history, having learned it in grade school, and many people, even today, fly the Vermont Republic flag, green with a blue field in the corner and 13 stars for the thirteen counties of Vermont, and wish for it to be the official state flag. FWIW, many people do not know Maine was part of Massachusetts either. Burlington (in Chittenden County) was a significant fort on Lake Champlain and played a key role in the War of 1812. The cannons of the fort are still there in "Battery Park" Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys are cultural heroes and the Vermont National Guard and Air Guard are still called "The Green Mountain Boys". Their headquarters is at Ft. Ethan Allen.

[@mgtowp.l.7756]

A Excellent History Video.. Highly Recommended.. Thank You Very Much For Sharing.. I LOVE VERMONT..

[@Steven_Merrill]

From the Green Mountain state, thanks for highlighting this bit of our history. I wish there were still men like that leading our state.

[@22vx]

Excellent!

[@88chrisfrink]

Best video you've made so far! I'm from West Dover VT which is between Bennington and Brattleboro

[@tinkmarshino]

and the bow tie man strikes again!!.. that was wonderful!... I never knew this before.. What a grand story of our beginnings.. My, the research you must put in to find all of these little tidbits must be amazing.. I understand your wife helps to.. What a team.. I truly appreciate both of you.. I love history and if I had not found out late in life how fascinating it is I might have been a historian or at the least a teacher of history.. so thank you both for "scratching an itch" that I have had for a number of years now.. carry on!

[@edglunz9917]

So amazing to lesrn of History in my old stomping ground, Vermont. The History Guy covers so much History we most likely would never had discovered in 20 years and does so in 10 minutes. So much fun learning with THG.

[@julieemig432]

Being from Bennington Vermont. I new most of this but the in depth analysis was great

[@rc5989]

Fascinating. I did not know any of this, even though I consider U.S. History to be one of my favorite subjects. Why did I never wonder “what was the fourteenth state?”

[@phillipstahl3957]

Any time that I am feeling down, I watch your channel. Great content. Great narration, you are a great dude. And you are a part of history, "that should be remembered"

[@FalconFastest123]

Best vid you've made in a while. It had valuable info that few people know and was presented coherently with lots of visual aids. Job well done.

[@calvinparent6140]

Living in bennington county is so great when your a history fan. Espesially living in Dorset. Not everyone can say there a stones throw from the oldest marbel quarry and the oldest gold course in the nation.

[@kathleenparr7401]

Thank You!

[@bbryant2485]

Excellent history snippet. More please

[@UltaPowderfinger]

Stronger together, than apart! So poignant. Thank you!

[@johngalt3568]

There’s a topic I never heard in American History, and my second major in college was history. Thanks again sir a great lesson.

[@thanksfernuthin]

When I was a kid I came up with Vermont's state motto: "Vermont! We're New Hampshire... but upside down!" (I grew up in New Hampshire.)

[@zachbenjamin2440]

thanksfernuthin that’s funny haha we said the same thing but the other way around.

[@thanksfernuthin]

@@zachbenjamin2440, HAAAA!!! Cool.

[@TheVanguard47]

Thumbs up for this video. I am a native Idahoan, but have lived in Vermont for nearly 20 years.

[@benr.4238]

0:58 When you just click and drag your states to expand them.

[@gus473]

🤣 Yup.....! 👍

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Connecticut and Mass were really presumptuous lmao.

[@jonathanschadenfreude9603]

our family rivers/blanchard/shaw go way back in this awesome place. thankyou.

[@VroomBox42]

As a creator on KZbin I find it extremely annoying and disturbing that KZbin allows advertisers to put hour long plus advertisements on our short videos. Especially knowing full well that no person watching the video is going to do anything but hit the skip button as soon as they see that the advertisement is an hour long. All it’s doing is costing us revenue in the end. Love your videos! I listen to a lot of your work as I drive every day.

[@evelynvictorymatheny9047]

i absolutely LOVE your channel! i love history and find it shameful when some try to change it. like it, lump history is history and i love it all! please keep it coming!

[@sharonwhiteley6510]

"WE are stronger together than apart " needs to be remembered today in this country.

[@JackB733]

This is truly it.... One of KZbin's absolute best channels!

[@dusseau13]

In the late 1980s I drove from near Detroit to Old Bennington, VT. At the cemetery there, on the 4th of July, I stood in front of soldiers who died in the battle of Bennington fighting for independence against England, and perhaps, New York. It is one of my fondest memories of the 4th in my 64 years, to be one with the Revolution on that day.

[@gus473]

Great Episode! 👍 The Beautiful Berkshires and Green Mountains are definitely worth a visit, if you you've never been! Also near the region of "Shay's Rebellion" during early years of the USA!

[@mtnguard6469]

I love that I go away from your videos with a lot more history than I came with. Love your videos. You do a great job.

[@robrod3097]

I wonder why none of this was thought in high school...or any other grade as it is... I seriously doubt that it has been thought in recent decades... Mr. History Man... you're hereby known as the king of history... I don't think there's going to be a century in which you're not going to amaze many of us in what history has yet to reveal to many of us... I'm humbly thankful for what you have to teach... Never stop !!! Blessings

[@Otokichi786]

Um, "King of History"? That question was resolved some years ago. "President of History" sounds more in keeping with those long-ago events.;)

[@robrod3097]

@@Otokichi786 Wanna get technical.....he goes and is known as "the history guy".... Don't be so anal budd....... Don't like what people write?? Get a hobby.. most of us come here to enjoy the ch. ....so relax, apparently, you have way to much time in your hands Cheers mate!!!! LoL 😂😂😂

[@Gson...]

Very cool. I’m from Vermont and always thought this was interesting. They had their own currency which is valuable to collectors today.

[@joelsimms4636]

Thank you once more. The delight of learning real American history.

[@lycossurfer8851]

Nice reminder at the end as well.

[@jeg5gom]

Always learn some amazing facts about stuff I thought I knew about but didn't.

[@sonofeloah]

Wow! I did not know this! It was not taught in our school history books. Thank you for sharing this with us all, much appreciated by myself and I am sure others.

[@judih.8754]

Thank you for this story. We are stronger together!

[@dhession64]

The main ingredient the glue that holds our national together is the last phrase of the last line of commentary. Bravo, HG, for the wonderful nugget of wisdom worth so much more that gold, washed in the blood spilt and the fortunes lost to help gain the toehold of independence won so long ago.

[@johntabler349]

I think it's also worthy of remembrance that quality content and intelligent discussion are still successful in the market place of ideas thanks History Guy your needed in more ways than one

[@Thor-rq4lk]

Amazing how this is glossed over in most histories of that time. Now I have a greater appreciation for the Vermonters and their stubborn commitment to their own freedom. I also gained some valuable insights regarding Ethan Allen. He was a larger than life character!

[@TedBronson1918]

THG didn't mention that Ethan Allen spent 2 years chained up in the bowels of an old British prison ship living in foul conditions after his capture. He was tough too.

[@rppvt]

@@TedBronson1918 nor did they mention that Washington remarked at how much taller he was than himself. Or the idea that Allen was sent to Canada to be captured, because of his popularity/brashness, betrayed by Arnold as he crossed the river.

[@fuwa7860]

Dear history guy, I love your videos! As a historian, I find your videos an interesting way to teach history. My expertise is in modern middle eastern history. I got my masters degree in history and international relations from the London school of Economics. I have a suggestion for an episode. During my research for my dissertation, I looked into the soviet union's overthrow of Hafizullah Amin in 1979 which led to the soviet afghan war lasting almost 10 years. The events in which the soviet union decided to overthrow Amin and installed Babrak Karmal is in my opinion perfect for a history guy episode. It has everything from suprise to betrayal and everything in between but no pirates. If you wish to look into this event further, I would be more then happy to share books and primary source documents with you. Thank you for making great episodes for us nerdy historians. As usual keep up the good work!

[@RTmadnesstoo]

What? No Pirates?

[@Chilly_Billy]

I consider myself fairly well versed in American history but had no idea there was a Vermont Republic. Content like this is what makes History Guy so valuable.

[@stoddern]

Thank you for teaching the history of my great state. Long live the Grand Army of the Republic and The Green Mountain Boys!

[@Paladin1873]

"We decided we were stronger together than apart." This theme seems to be losing some of its appeal today.

[@johnjephcote7636]

Yes, little UK drifting away from its strength in the EU.

[@grondhero]

@@johnjephcote7636 The EU was never a nation. All it did for the UK was drain its money.

[@grantorino2325]

It was a hard-sell even in the 18th Century. 3 of the former colonies (including powerhouse New York) refused to ratify the constitution until after the Bill of Rights was proposed by the 1st Congress. And even then, it took a lot of convincing on the part of Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison. While it's technically true that Vermont was the 14th state to ratify the constitution, she actually did so very soon after (longtime holdout) Rhode Island.

[@absalomdraconis]

A large part of the problem is that lots of people expect _allegiance_ or _unity_ instead of _alliance._ The US was created as an alliance partly because there was enough cultural variance to make actual unity impossible. It is only when the unifying rules of an alliance are limited in coverage and dominance that any alliance remains equitable and maintainable, hence the Constitutional limitations on the Federal government. However, the Progressive era brought with it a renewed fascination with centralization, hierarchy, and empire. Thus Nazis, thus Communists, thus Progressivism, and thus... many of the surface trappings of America, including "In God We Trust" on the money, the current expansiveness of the Federal government, and the Democratic party's obsession with government healthcare and other social programs. This has not all been negative, as the social programs of the Progressive era were often put in place for honest reasons relevant to legitimate federal rights & duties, but it also has been turned into a religion of sorts, and the opposition to it the same.

[@Paladin1873]

@@absalomdraconis Rather like the antebellum "These United State" and postbellum "The United States". In 20 years or so we may become "The Untied States".

[@RhettyforHistory]

Very fascinating forgotten history!

[@glenesis]

In NY we learned about the Green Mountain Boys, but we were never taught anything about territorial disputes nor did we learn of Vermont's independence - thanks for this!

[@rossclay3317]

Most excellent and very insightful! I thank you for sharing this very informative historical video! Bravo!

[@christianfreedom-seeker934]

That was neat! As a New Englander myself I had NO idea that Vermont was it's own "quasi-republic" until 1791! Heh, you learn something new every day.

[@carolynnunes3922]

The 14th state! I love your channel! You make history interesting!

[@cmandc301]

This was a great story even though it did not involve Pirates!

[@catjudo1]

Sounded like there were some Hudson River pirates to me...

[@ArchYeomans]

I'm sure they had pirates on Lake Champlain.

[@skylarheitzman7958]

As a life long Vermonter, who loves history, a very well done video History Guy.

[@1960HikerDude]

I live in Mass and spend lots of time in Vermont. I knew VT was once part of NY. But I never knew how VT became an independent state. Thanks.

[@georgefrench1907]

Fascinating history. My Massachusetts-born father’s forebears were believed to have come from southern Vermont. His name, entirely coincidentally, was William French.

[@deltavee2]

Vermont is a singularly verdant and beautiful state. As a Canadian I think it may even be my favourite state. I remember back in the late '60s driving through Vermont on the way to Cape Cod (my other favourite location in the U.S.) and seeing a sign in a small town that said "Ethan Allen's horse slept here."

[@g3heathen209]

I live on the Massachusetts/Vermont border(on the MA side) and always knew those guys just up the road were a different sort. The independent streak is still alive and well in the green hills.

[@JohnStark72]

The independent streak isn't showing in our politics any longer. We were always Republican until the 1960s. But that can change if enough people with a hard-working attitude, common sense, and a love of true liberty move here.

[@srl9727]

If only our nations "leaders" could remember history.

[@spokanefut]

@Heinrich Himmler Piss off, Himmler. Trump's immigrant granddaddy was a pimp, and THAT is documented. The roadapples don't fall far from the horse.

[@libertyman3729]

Spokanefot, YOU have a link to thoes facts , please post them .

[@absalomdraconis]

@@spokanefut : That Trump's grandfather was an immigrant _strengthens_ Himmler's argument this time, _not_ weakens it.

[@dianelove8147]

Trump is an ignorant ass.

[@earlyburg]

"--Allen could recognize a good opportunity when he saw one.." is a very "Vermont" philosophy. Thanks for posting this.

[@awizardalso]

My mother's family was from Vermont. Her dad was from the O'Grady family and he later dropped the 'O' from his last name. Her mother was from the Bradley family. My mother had two brothers and one sister. We lived in Cleveland in the 1960's and one of her brothers moved to Elyria, Ohio and her sister moved to Massachusetts. I'd lost all contact with her family in the mid-1970's.

[@connorthompson66]

Bradley is also the name of a Boston Brahmin family, the traditional upper-class, American Gentry of New England. Perhaps you're related?

[@bobrenfrew3174]

If you are looking for more topics I would suggest looking into the USS Vestal (AR4). She was the ship tied up next to the USS Arizona on Dec 7th. I've found that what happened during the battle, and her service during the war, is interesting history that deserves to be remembered .

[@maryerb6062]

Keep 'em coming, Lance! In school it was as all about political history. These are very interesting. You have a great idea!

[@susannortham11.11]

My husband's ancestors Jehiel Hawley and Zadock Hard were part of this event in history. They were landowners in Arlington VT and the people there were also attacked and harassed by the angry New Yorkers and they got help for Ethan Allen and the Green Mtn Boys.

[@dougcook7507]

Speaking of border disputes between states. An episode on the Michigan-Ohio War would be a good episode to do.

[@steveconnor6880]

I love all your little history lessons I guess we can call them, especially from around this time in our history. I think you should look into the little New England town of Castine Maine where the French fought the Dutch, then they fought the English, then the English the Revolutionary army and the Marines made their first ever amphibious landing and lost badly. Very interesting history for such a small place. Thank you for all your great videos.

[@rustymaximus9179]

Wish we could do that today!

[@herrunsinn774]

Wow... If one is to believe the date this video was originally posted, (today 11 March, 2020), the video has already racked up almost thirty-thousand views. Way to go History Guy!

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Thank you so much for teaching me about this! God bless you!

[@aehamilton7]

Very interesting story when I have never heard. Thank you for bringing it to us.

[@hankblaster]

I was taught in the 80s that Vermont didn't become a state until late in the 18th century, but, not why. Now I know. Thanks!