The $1700 Windows MISTAKE - Surface Pro X

[@javi_3538]

Ken: wastes ton of money on stupid Amazon products Also Ken: this is not worth it

[@rezagholami7832]

😂

[@zes3813]

wrg, any s ok

[@EthisProtogen]

Just goes to show that he can be serious when he needs to be.

[@ddruprup12ify]

It would be great if it were not a ARM device.

[@ddruprup12ify]

It's a Microsoft device. Not a Amazon device.

[@yoann_m491]

"If you do light tasks like web browsing it's ok" Me : *thinking about people spending $1700 to browse on chrome*

[@LzysGraphics]

Right? Ken just described a Chromebook which you can buy for way less and with Linux and Android support would probably work better for most.

[@notrajanmali]

Most expensive Chromebook

[@bradavon]

This is the majority of Mac users 🤣

[@bradavon]

@@LzysGraphics they would.

[@ryanizer11]

LzysGraphics or go even cheaper you could do this basically on a raspberry pi

[@dreammfyre]

Plot Twist: Ken and Austin are the same person.

[@ohmabones2492]

they are this universe peter and neil from spiderman

[@axelgarcia899]

Lol

[@Hawkem68]

Dr Satan oh my god

[@DieRugle]

I have never seen Ken and Austin in the same room

[@sounhournim1643]

Hold up

[@devmahendru2301]

Ken gives me "Ned" vibes from the Spider-Man movies...

[@BogdanPaun1976]

Just watched the movie 1 hour ago... When I saw Ned I said: this dude is 100% Ken

[@johnspratt5410]

Dev Mahendru thank you I couldn’t think of who he reminded me of

[@neomamuro]

Are you saying Austin is Spiderman?! A full-grown man who can pass off as a high school nerd... well that checks out.

[@Jaedog11]

Replace the k in "Ken" with the d in "Ned" and read the name backward, you basically get the same person ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@AIOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]

Ikr

[@andrewn327]

Ken is just showing off his weebness big time here.

[@KimNguyen-zz7hb]

Andrew Nguyen so?

[@_yuri]

@@KimNguyen-zz7hb what do you mean so ?

[@KimNguyen-zz7hb]

pink Fungi i mean is there a problem with ken showing his weebness

[@Grovichun]

your last name is pronounced without the g so who's the real weeb

[@Adam-iw3lc]

Weebs deserve the death penalty

[@ChrisBGYT]

ken you should be incharge cause u explain it beter dont tell austin

[@jayden7306]

Chris BG beter?

[@T_theTrain]

You'll be safe bro. It's not like this Austin's channel still and he can look at every single comment just like everyone else. I won't tell him👍

[@Leonx3]

Agreed.

[@DeathReaperGaming]

@@-RAYZ- haha yea, hey bud, his comment has more than spelling mistakes but that's ok

[@ariesbanuelos]

Yeah lets have ken instead

[@joshchia2452]

1:32 Ken flexing his Love Live wallpaper

[@callmemasfer]

I am using that art for my wallpaper too lmao

[@derkaiser9881]

A true man of culture. o7

[@dane9598]

Wooby

[@enniokim1108]

@@callmemasfer i require sauce

[@callmemasfer]

@@enniokim1108 search on pixiv, the username is shamakho

[@itjustscythe]

Ken: I like money Also Ken: What the chicken f*** is this

[@msp5138]

Purchased an SPX (SQ1, 8 ram, 128 ssd) for only $623US and absolutely love it! 1. Battery life is 50% longer than my SP7 (i7, 16 ram, 256 ssd). I get between 12-13 hours of continuous KZbin viewing (40% brightness, BlueTooth off, Wifi and Power Saver on). This is on par with my 15-inch 360x HP Spectre and its battery is twice as large. 2. The screen is bigger and brighter. I can read/watch video in a dark room with 0% brightness. Larger screen is also great for reading/annotating PDFs. 3. It is thinner/easier to hold, so it's much better for notetaking/watching videos on your lap than the SP7. 4. Runs all my must-have work apps including Office 2019, statistical software, Zoom, Nebo, Snapdrop, ReadAloud, and PDF apps. The only "nice to have" apps I can't run so far are BatteryBar and Throttlestop (which has a 32-bit version) 5. Charges much faster than my SP7 6. Has a Sim Card slot 7. Keyboard is 1/2 price on Amazon 8. SP7 pen works on SPX Negatives are: 1. No USB-A (dongle life) 2. No microSD slot 4. MS's 64-bit emulator greatly reduces battery life (which is why I haven't downloaded yet) 5. Can't run all 35 million Windows apps/programs (for now) Finally, I don't edit videos, edit photos, or play games. The SPX was not designed for these hobbies, it was designed for white-collar professionals and mobile business folks.

[@IMDGTV]

I used to be an early adopter... then debt adopted my wallet.

[@javierdelgado3915]

I know I'm a few years too late but I got a surface pro X for very cheap on ebay lightly used for like$280 ish 8gb model, I installed a 512gb ssd in there myself, love how light and portable it is. Installed windows 11, runs nice, it's not the fastest but it gets the job done. Media viewing, drawing, web browsing, social media, plays lightweight games like sonic mania, hollow knight, and ori.

[@heythisisreal]

Plot Twist: Austin actually fell in love with Ken throughout the years and Ken is taking advantage of this and stealing a bit of spotlight

[@JonoHamp]

Israel id rather watch ken every video😂

[@IMDGTV]

🥴🥴🥴

[@thecatonacouch9371]

GA-

[@heythisisreal]

@kreem gems Nope. My name is Israel. And what do you mean by no shame?? lol

[@AndrewHawley]

I've been using the Surface Pro X for a week now. I use it for editing office documents, email, web browsing. Nothing too intensive but always mobile. I've found the Pro X to be easier to use in a Windows environment than an iPad, battery life really good and the build quality to be excellent. I don't think the Pro X is a mistake.. I think its misunderstood.

[@AndrewHawley]

Ok.. All Things GRelated, show me a cheaper product that doesn’t compromise on one of the Pro X differentiators..

[@thesavagedog28t61]

@@AndrewHawleysurface pro 7

[@19kruger99]

You know it's important when Ken talks

[@cxaviation3313]

Person : buys 1700 dollar surface pro x Sees this review “Oh now I gotta return this

[@bradavon]

It's not $1700. Most people aren't going to get 16GB RAM. Reviewers are out of touch.

[@KA1637]

@@bradavon Still a Grand, 8GB of RAM and 128 GB of Storage. You could get a decent specked laptop and a Wacom tablet for that price.

[@bradavon]

@@KA1637 it's the going rate. They all charge this.

[@KA1637]

@@bradavon For essentially a beefed up Chromebook? As I said a decent laptop with a Wacom tablet can make that beefed up Chromebook look like a child's toy.

[@KA1637]

@@bradavon Also 32-Bit software cannot even utilize 8GB let alone 16GB.

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

I'm wondering whether they'd improve the simulation performance, being able to run most of Windows native apps is good and all, and but not being able to run it optimally is just bad.

[@Jambamode]

Is it just me when I get surprised when Ken talks excitedly because I’m used to Willy Du being quiet?

[@bradavon]

Because they all look the same? 😒

[@lordbeerus7361]

@@bradavon yes.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PrabhjotSingh-lk4vq]

-An Apple a year makes your money- -disappear- *A Surface a year, makes more of* *your money disappear*

[@pika2253]

Absolutely!

[@-kat]

Haha

[@Danker19991]

The criminal part here is Ken didnt link his love live wallpaper, I want it

[@adwaitagnome]

same

[@dsmsyahmi4509]

Made by @shamakho_works on Twitter

[@Danker19991]

DSM Syahmi biggest of cheers my guy

[@realcartoongirl]

@@dsmsyahmi4509 send Link OMG

[@seireiart]

1:32 Having Zuramaru and Ruby in one picture is enough to make happy all the day

[@Rizushii]

You forgot about yohane

[@TwilightSparkel16]

1:36 yo ken whats the sauce for that wallpaper? :P

[@Batooya]

Death Miku MEOW i believe that it is love live. I saw it on another comment. I havent watched it myself.

[@Batooya]

Death Miku MEOW also search on pixiv artist is shamakho

[@burrako1935]

Death Miku MEOW kens a weeb lul

[@realcartoongirl]

i need Souce master Bates

[@Mrwilsonevan]

I love this computer. No issues with me, it's expensive but I can afford it. Fast, runs all the programs I need it to. (Outlook, one note, full excel and word, internet) the pen is amazing, better than my ipad pro pen (2nd generation) I do understand the complaints, but I love the sleek feel and how light it is.

[@iceblossom4887]

1:31 I need that background

[@callmemasfer]

Search on pixiv, the artist name is Shamakho

[@maddoxfitzsimmons5440]

I personally think Ken is doing a great job hosting videos lately! Keep up the good work

[@finessefulj8489]

I love my Pro X. I use it for Drawing, web browsing and streaming my Xbox. Plus I carry it with me wherever I go

[@idontknowwhattoputhere.]

0:47 link to that wallpaper?

[@pariwesh]

1:07 Now that's some cool ass editing!

[@kaeleblowry7354]

I want Ken to try to use the iPad pro now that has Photoshop. I want to see if he would actually prefer ipadOS over windows on arm

[@caliqm2199]

Ken:I don't recommend it Also Ken:Unless you want to piss off Austin in the next Mystery Tech

[@IAmPhantomNoah]

Despite being ARM, I wonder if anyone here would rewatch this video after seeing how those newer M1 Macs perform even on Rosetta? 🤔

[@birb231]

*1700 dollar mistake* Me: *infinite dollar mistake*

[@wmv8996]

Reminds me of when the iPad first launched and so many scoffed at it, saying it's just a big iPhone. Now people are doing so much with iPads, it could be the same for Windows on ARM in the future.

[@LazyPCRehab]

They apparently just released a beta of the Edge Chromium Arm64 build. I've been trying to find a driect download, but to no avail.

[@Unknownboi88]

"If you do light tasks like web browsing it's ok" umm then get a chromebook

[@ayuchanayuko]

Eww chromebook

[@thewireman134]

Chromebooks are awesome, but I get a certain pleasure out of a real OS. Apple is the worst.. ughhh

[@ptabz3112]

I had the surface pro 2. Used it for four years. I used it with actual programs. I had SOLIDWORKS, AutoCAD, SketchUp, fusion 360, word, excel and a couple of cam software. I use it for actual work. I hook it up to an external screen and keyboard, mouse, 3dmouse and software dongle. I do this at home and at work. I upgraded to a surface pro 6 right before surface pro 7 came out just because my old machine's battery and ports were starting to wear out. What the surface provides is reliability. It cost me $2k for my setup. Now I wish I could buy the surface pro x which is similarly priced. I guess the surface line is not as good as your Apple products for watching netflix or posting your selfies.

[@hrespin7682]

Real talk, Ken did a great job with this review. Would love to see more from him. Such a shame that Microsoft released the Pro X with a beautiful design but kept the same design for the Pro 7. Would've really liked to see at least some changes on the front regarding the bezels on the Pro 7, but I guess they thought that the Pro 7 and Pro X would look too similar and confuse consumers?

[@suborgtfo.4433]

Everyone : uploading videos about new MacBook Pro.. . . . . Austin Evans : I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move...

[@ArielJerseyJr]

That Love Live wallpaper though 1:31 .

[@ArielJerseyJr]

Jon Martinez ?

[@better.better]

yeah I think the LTE compatibility requires an ARM processor, or at the very least, that was the easiest way to invite LTE... because looking around it's very hard to find an LTE device that isn't ARM

[@joeyhillers9460]

Its coming to the point where arm chips will eventually take over the hardware space. And I think it could work if more developers were to openly support it.

[@Retro-Moon25]

128gb ssd and 8gb of ram for only 1000 bucks wow what a deal guys...

[@Kylo_Ren_2033]

Every other tech channels: 16-inch MacBook Pro Austin Evans: Surface Pro X

[@Cancer55399]

I love the twist! I hope Ken does more videos.

[@BW022]

Agreed. If you want just light browsing and a few apps... any iPad, Windows 10 tablet, or Chromebook is good enough at half the price. If you need certain apps, you might as well go for a full Surface or Surface-type device. No one wants to explain to someone why X runs slow or you can't install Y on a system for no real benefits (it isn't less expensive, it doesn't run faster, it isn't really running longer, etc.) Windows for ARM promised longer battery life and less expensive machines. So far... it has just delivered app incompatibility.

[@DojoOfCool]

There is talk that Apple could move to ARM in their computer by end of 2020. If they do then the big app's like Adobe and etc will have to port to Arm chips. Could generate a lot of work for programmers to port apps to Arm.

[@MrLuffy9131]

Desktop PC with decent specs-$600 Surface Pro X-$1700 Galaxy fold-$2000 XD

[@nljie]

Im using the spx as a student and im absolutely loving it

[@NoNonsense316]

This sort of harkens back to the Surface RT. Not being able to run just any arbitrary Windows app is a deal-breaker.

[@crysed7897]

surface RT launched 8 years Ago... And ARM still fails until NOW.. I buy product that works, not promises!

[@tomas8155]

What kind of peripherals you can hookup with usb-c?

[@rollingtroll]

Microsoft probably made a deal with Qualcomm here. I guess Qualcomm is trying to become the third big Processor maker. Microsoft knows people will mind not being able to run 64 bit apps on an expensive tablet, but they need to get the new processors out there to the public. This might be very interesting in two or three years, especially since the Surface line up has quite a big graphical artist following and with Adobe on board. Let's see... Hey Ken! Good video!

[@sharathnair70]

Thumbnails look amazing Keep it up!

[@HayderAbdulridha]

Austin, I have watched you for years, and have a question. My dad wants a surface, which one should I get him, he does field work, like agriculture. He takes a lot of data, but he also wants a portable and powerful surface laptop, which one should I get?

[@fabiospringer6328]

Take a normal intel surface pro. If he handles a lot of data take a high end one with 16 gigs of ram. I don't know which software he uses, but most data software's do not support ARM based CPUs.

[@notnerd3]

Microsoft: *Makes a $1700 glorified tablet* Me sitting at home with Cheeto dust on my fingers watching the video on my 7-year-old MacBook: Nope

[@Bunty793]

Are ken and austin business partners or does ken work for austin? Cause this really feels like ken's channel over austin's.

[@nikanj]

Oh shit. I never though about the ARM processor and it's comparability issues. Yeah that's a massive deal breaker. Even ignoring the performance disadvantage most major companies have already dropped or are dropping 32-bit support.

[@irem8513]

man, just send it to me if you have it laying around, i just spilled water all over my surface and seeing anything tech related on my recs right now makes me sad af

[@seroujghazarian6343]

5:13 Hey didn't the NSW do that too?

[@abdullahabrarfaiazfarhan2120]

IS THIS GUY FROM SPIDERMAN HOMECOMING AND FAR AWAY FROM HOME AKA PETER'S BEST FRIEND

[@glacier520cube5]

Yeah

[@EthisProtogen]

ARM isn't the architecture Microsoft should be focusing on. Power9 looks like it'd be really beneficial.

[@LouisSubearth]

Ken's wallpaper screams weeaboo, but his outfit screams fisherman. Is this the most low key form of click bait out there?

[@valerie80yearsago90]

Can anyone explain to me wtf he was trying to get at by the whole ARM on Windows things? What all does that mean?

[@LimYQS]

So importantly, how does it handle excel, powerpoint and power bi?

[@Darek225Army]

All the surface pro's kinda suck. very bad performance, agonizingly slow downloads and updates, and honestly a while crappy keyboard. Of the 4 that I have owned 2 of their keyboards broke from day to day use

[@emlyndewar]

Hilarious price. This is a great move to ensure windows on arm fails (again).

[@IsiahHD]

Frfr the only thing that the regular Surface Pro 6 was missing was USB-C. Now that the Surface Pro 7 has it, it's a near flawless take on the product.

[@FishBeeProductions]

For better web browsing you should get the new MacBook pro and Max it out to just over $6,000!

[@nic_ccc3366]

Despite the largely negative reviews, I'm so intrigued by this and am tempted to pull the trigger. I only need to do web browsing, emailing, MS Office so I think I could get by. But it puts a bad taste in my mouth that this is considerably more expensive than the Pro 7, which will be generally more usable and issue-free. Not sure the smaller bezels and better battery life (which I've seen mixed reviews of anyway) is worth the potential headache of app incompatibility.

[@tripodted21]

Ken is like the real life person giving his honest experience, like Austin. More of Ken and Austin

[@tidus86p]

Lets be honest. Ken was actually being nice here. For those kind of tasks plus pen support (and more) the iPad Pro 11 inch is infinitely better value. I admit it was hard for me to take the plunge but Ive been using it as my portable work computer for a year and its been amazing (once you get used to it).

[@Ninja-tb4gl]

Love your videos and keep up the great work

[@jamess.9743]

The moment the MS store associate told me that some programs work on the X, I replied Windows RT? Knew everyone was gonna nope out of this product.

[@zeni-8192]

Now we know why Austin's thumbnail game is dank.

[@user-ik8wd9vm7r]

So there's no advantage over the surface pro 7. What's the point of arm? For now arm CPU tablets are lightweight but on the Intel side CPUs are also getting better and better with more power efficiency and full windows app compatibility.

[@shawnbarry5553]

As soon as he said "Windows on ARM" I had war flashbacks. Never again.

[@battlebunnykai2295]

When I bought a Surface for my wife I got the one without the "ARM" style OS on purpose. Not selling me on this. XD

[@SpicyRamenBowl]

It's more of something of the future to have now because nothing is optimized to run well on arm but in years to come arm will be much more useful in many applications as things are built for that system more same with iPads in the beginning verses now it has to start somewhere so developers can get sold on it.

[@soldierofrome5374]

@@SpicyRamenBowl Exactly so you should wait until then to buy an ARM based Windows product, no point in having outdated hardware by the time you can fully take advantage of ARM processors. Until that time this product is a waste of money.

[@SpicyRamenBowl]

@@soldierofrome5374 Yeah it's not exactly for everyday consumers like I said.

[@battlebunnykai2295]

It might be fun too mess with if you can mess with Linux. Other than that it would be easier for most people too just plug and play regular software/hardware. She was gonna use it for business and movies so needed compatible apps. Streams Steam games over WiFi often too lol.

[@JesseRademacher]

Adobe Fresco is coming to the Surface Pro X. And Sketchable isn't too bad either. This might not add broad appeal, but it's exciting for artists.

[@NtvBulgaria]

The biggest downside of the Surface Pro X is the stupid ARM processor. This tablet needs a x86 processor. I want to be able to use my full x86-64 desktop apps. Not the stupid Windows Store UWP apps or old versions of 32-bit apps. Sorry, Microsoft, but this tablet no longer has any advantage over the iPad. You can no longer do serious work on it just like the iPad…

[@ChipZilla69]

I really want it but opted for a 7 instead since i found one for a great price and already have the type cover and pen from a 4 that died on me. Also it runs wins properly of course. U want best of both

[@tonihirvonen9690]

bad durations are those phones eg water gets in that gap and then that screen surely won't last long and bet don't like high temperatures

[@ssanc6]

That snapdragon chip is probably powerful enough, but there are not many optimized apps. If it had the same battery form the surface pro 7, headphone jack, decent cooling system, and the keyboard was included, it would be more intresting

[@themacintoshnerd]

Shoulda been x86 the thing that made these so much better than something like an iPad is that you could run full desktop apps and not worry about optimization. What Microsoft should have done is look at what Apple did when they switched to intel. Rosetta was legendary because it worked incredibly well most people didn’t notice it at all

[@stigsstupidcousin3102]

about headphone jack,. many phones has slim bezel and still can put a headphone jack there.. so there is no excuses..

[@ShelLuser]

Have to politely disagree with you about the mistake part. Been using this for some time now and it's one heck of an office workstation IMO. The way I see it this all boils down to picking the right tool for the right job, and it seems not too many people are capable of doing that.

[@bb_bb_]

Okay, if laptops/tablets start losing headphone jacks, I'm out.

[@antipainK]

"This might be good for those who use lightweight tasks" - that pretty much sums up this Surface.

[@mzhaha7480]

Bruh Ken be buying a whole laptop and saying it's not worth it but buys a $600 phone as a nut joke???

[@noah_dpk]

I just brought a surface go 8gb of ram and 128 of storage so far so good! Mainly using it for drawing..

[@Machistmo]

Well it took AMD like 20 years to get their act together so like he says, there is hope down the line, maybe... After initially welcoming the idea back at the start of this decade, I have been Actively avoiding MS Hardware since. Owning a Device like a surface and supporting them are different. We had the Surface 3 and Pro 3,4, etc in production and someone bought 64GB tablets for the field folks. Keeping those things operational in an SCCM environment became a full time job for 2 or 3 techs. Despite telling people when they requested the Sp3 4 5 whatever, that they would need to save all important files on the network, onedrive, or some other cloud space, the number of devices that experienced battery failure, drop damage or other system failure requiring manual data harvest was just staggering. In my time supporting these devices I was only able to repair (fully) 2 or 3 devices. The vast majority were a total loss after data recovery. It wasn't like the internals were useful as the construction of these devices makes it practically certain you will destroy them during tear down, to say nothing of battery failure being certain and fatal for these things. It was simply a matter of time. No battery, DOA, power cable be damned in almost all cases.

[@go1485]

Does anyone know where the characters in the wallpaper are from? 1:30

[@realcartoongirl]

Tentacle

[@commentarytalk1446]

If you can get >$800 (now) and also get discounts on the typecover and pen then it's a brilliant device (so long as you know what software you use as it's Windows ARM). I'd find this more useful than the macbook Air M1 for portable and remote work and leisure device all in one. For heavy performance, can use desktop which again is better set up than macbook Air M1 which is probably the best laptop on the market right now.

[@unifiedmemory7872]

Ken is walking on austins footsteps how cute

[@Elysiabikha]

Also a rumor is that Apple switch to arm chip in their macs only difference is the app support is better

[@HakariProductions]

Ken and Austin are amazing, Ken is also really good to listen to. Let's keep it with just these two lol.

[@MJsdynasty]

What anime is that 1:32

[@lizardpeter]

He keeps saying "the benefits of the ARM processor," but I see none. The battery life is not great, you can't run native 64 bit programs, 32 bit programs are emulated and slow...

[@zalazar8790]

i wonder if it was dual boot with android it would be amazing. literally it will be the best performer arm based android tablet.

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Too bad it has bullshit secure boot you can't disable

[@abcd-hw8io]

Totally agree.

[@jarule8065]

This is a faster Windows RT with built in Emulation for X86.... This may not be be good yet but - i feel - that this is the future .... this will become faster and faster... and also eventually mac os will move to ARM too...

[@scholardeville]

what happened to the audio in this? it sounds really poor

[@thabangmalatji96]

When u said.. " lil less than 1800 dollars" I kinda heard a lil bit of Austin's voice in that sentence 🤭 Great review 💯