The 1877 Buffalo War: The End of the Comanche

[@colvinator1611]

Great account of hunters v hunters. Thanks a lot, Colin UK 🇬🇧

[@graemehuia5964]

Just being a Buffalo would have been a tough gig in those days.

[@ralphsanchico2452]

Your ability to articulate these details puts the listener practically on the battlefield! Great job sir!

[@bobwilliams5506]

The Comanches were also the most fierce, the most ruthless, and the most barbaric of the western tribes.

[@jimbombadill]

after the irish?

[@johnvannewhouse]

@@jimbombadill Irish weren't cavalrymen.....

[@WiseOwl_1408]

@@jimbombadill hahahhaha ouch

[@adamtsoodle4158]

Not the western tribes. ALL THE TRIBES! No tribe was even close.... They traded their war clubs, lances, and bow and arrows, for other ways to cut your heart out! I am KIOWA. My father grew up going to church revivals. And so did the long time chairman of the Comanche nation, WALLACE COFFEY. They took each as brothers when they just boys. Me my Dad put managed the rodeos they sponsored in the 80s n 90s. My brother was the only program director, that wasn't Comanche, for 8 yrs.. And me, I was married to Comanche lady for 7 yrs.. Her father was the head of the Comanche language program until he passed on. HER MOTHER WAS A PARKER! This is only one band of the Comanche. I think your story is greatly embellished. Moreover. It took 100 years for the world, the starve the Comanche, and KIOWA out. By the time you assholes figured shit out 90% of us had been killed by the sickness y'all brought. If it had been a fair fight. YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS... remember. Y'all had an endless supply of combatants, from around the world. WE ONLY HAD EACH OTHER.... I AM ADAM TSOODLE OF THE KIOWA. LOOK UP MY FAMILY NAME. ANYONE OF YOUR HEROS FROM THIS STORY WOULD HAVE TO STAND ON HIS GRANDMA'S SHOULDERS, JUST TO KISS HIS ASS...

[@charleswhite1014]

I want to hear about the Apache lndeans. Did they ever have white captives?

[@alexkalish8288]

You do wonderful videos, very historically accurate. This is easily the best account of this action I have ever heard. The civil war training of these men is evident in your account.

[@georgebrown6540]

Brilliantly told, thanks for sharing.

[@bobsmoot2392]

Excellent! A good (true) story, well told. Thank you, sir.

[@caryboyd2181]

Apache or Kiowa. I love the history of the Indian Wars. I am a Okie. I studied Native American Indian Cultures at T.U. Was a preparator.of exhibits at Philbrook Art Museum, and went often to Gilcrease Meuseum. Gilcrease has the most comprehensive collection of Russell, Remington, and Moran. Philbrook had a lot of Woody Crumbo tempera paintings I framed and matted. Much of it was Peyote Art. I met him when he came to inspect the matting job I did on his paintings. Cary in Tucson.

[@alec_f1]

Those are fantastic museums. So many great museums in OK. My brother runs the 45th on the weekends and we've had family that worked at the Cowboy Hall of Fame also. I heard the Cowboy Hall of Fame sold off a large amount of their collection. So much history folks don't know about in Oklahoma and the Texas panhandle. My wife's family are from Lawton, I'm from OKC. Grew up in the United Indian Methodist church my whole life. Fascinating to live around such a wild history folks don't appreciate as much.

[@Brandonhayhew]

Wild West is actually more like west expansions. US had two wars with Mexico

[@ION400]

I grew up in Tulsa. My favorite museum by far was Woolaroc, fantastic on native and pioneer artifacts

[@nomadpi1]

@@alec_f1 In today's PC "sensitivity" the Western history has been denigrated into touchyness. Not enough exposure to the public. I2RANLTOWNOKIE!

[@nomadpi1]

I2ROK. I've been to all the OK museums. Studied the OK history. Lived in T-town, B'ville, OKC, and Lwtn. Thks for your work!

[@nomadpi1]

I enjoyed the map collage along with the artwork. Your narrative was concise, informative, with the few quotes dispersed into the event sites and time. Good work.

[@deewen4232]

Thanks for the video upload Mr. Walrus. I've always been fascinated with this type of American history.

[@cliff567]

I grew up in Mass and read about the Seneca and Iroquois tribes in the pre revolution days, French Indian wars where George Washington saved the Army that Braddock march into a trap. Thank you for the great narration, I recently read The story of Quana Parker.

[@joediskin6612]

Amazing when we realize nobody has room to Bragg about being innocent in these conflicts.Just the world as it really is.

[@edwardphillips406]

Chief Joseph..” From where the Sun Now Sets , I will fight no more, forever’….One of My All time Hero’s…

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

I definitely want to do a video about him one day. One of my childhood heroes, too.

[@josephdowling3745]

Mine also. A gentleman, politician, warrior and poet rolled into one.

[@sunnyseacat6857]

Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce? Kent Nerburn (excellent Wolf Nor Dog trilogy) wrote the astonishing tale of Chief Joseph/Nez Perce in the book: Chief Joseph and the Flight of the Nez Perce. A must read. It is incomprehensible what the Nez Perce undertook...all for their freedom.

[@freewill1114]

I would like to see an article about the indian attack on Seattle in 1855. The settlers retreated to their fort and were under attack, but a warship in the bay was able to drive off the indians with its cannon.

[@WiseOwl_1408]

Wow that's crazy

[@onlythewise1]

really whites brought the horses, Indians walked they wasnt a nation

[@mariedelozier2530]

I’d like to hear about that too

[@henryrodgers1752]

Attacked by whom? Salish? Kootenay? Blackfoot? That would be a great story!

[@RedHawk-z8z]

Those were Yakamas that had attacked

[@georgejcking]

Excellent job!!!!!!!! Thank you very much!!!!

[@jphalsberghe1]

Besides the enthralling story telling, i was fascinated by the almost photo-perfect imagery of the topic related paintings or drawings. Especially, the positions of wounded, dying or dead horses are stunning. As if the artist witnessed firsthand those moments. I actually felt my heart racing more rapidly during the battle recount between two almost equally strong, smart, courageous but bitter arch enemies. Deep respect to both. There is nothing better than context true and neutral history archaeology to understand today's situations.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

The artists did witness scenes like this. Frederic Remington and Charles M. Russel are my go to artists. Fascinating characters who captured the final days of the west.

[@jphalsberghe1]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 Thanks so much for the clarification. That explains everything. Extraordinary artists for one of the most difficult paintings are from dying animals. As an anecdote, i have been a quite passionate (European) horse butcher for almost 20 years. As such< I have seen thousands of (higher beings) horses fall and die. I ended my butcher career actually with initiatives to rescue horses from premature slaughtering. I did this even with even more passion. Thanks again for your unique works!

[@elmochomo8218]

This would be a true badass western movie

[@roberttalbot1658]

Loved the excellent paintings.

[@emperorcorning8329]

Great video!! I'd love to see you cover the Navajo Wars, from the early contact with Spain and Mexico, to the Long Walk and the establishment of the modern Navajo Nation

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

I've thought about series like that. I'm two videos away from completing my series on Western Trails and I want to finish up what I started on the Sioux Wars, too. Although, Navajo history would be fascinating. I might just begin that after my Western Trails series is complete.

[@emperorcorning8329]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 I just discovered your channel today via this video, and have already watched a few others and subscribed. As a lover of history, especially American and Native American history, your channel is a wonderful find!! Keep up the great work!!

[@johnpatterson4816]

The Big 50 Sharp's was one of the most bad ass guns of the old west. Watch Tom Selleck in "Quigley Down Under".

[@phredphlintstone6455]

@@emperorcorning8329 thought that was a .45-40

[@thejohnbeck]

this is the 1st vid i've seen of your channel. your end-of-video credit photo is great! ha.

[@christianstough6337]

For the best overview of the Comanche nation until 1900, read "Comanche Empire" by Pekka Hamalainen, easily the best book on the subject. Very well researched and very objective. Other good books included: "War of a thousand deserts" by Brain Delay, "Captured" by Scott Zesch and "Empire of the Summer Moon" by SC Gwynn. These books are more subjective but cast a light on different aspects of the Comanche.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

It's so hard to find good, objective books on the topic. Thank you for the recommendations!

[@holliscook7106]

Aq1qq the

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Why not just ask NUMUNU people? -COMANCHE NATION

[@seanrussell7819]

Pekkas “Lakota America” is awesome too if you haven’t read it

[@larszchzsche9070]

I read them years ago and great to know some people still read and study instead of just blowing

[@raymondpilarczyk2773]

The Lipan Apache were seldom if ever 'allied with the Comanche', a matter of fact they hated each other

[@Momusinterra]

True that a generation earlier Lipans and Comanches were at war with one another. By the time of this fight the Lipans were reduced to just scattered fragments. The Comanche were reduced as well. No reason that the Comanches wouldn't see fit to let a few Lipan warriors fight alongside of them against the buffalo hunters.

[@josephjenson4894]

I would refer you to a book I believe called 9 years among the Indians or something similar. Written by a white captive raised lipan apache who ended his days as a Comanche after an internal struggle among the apache

[@dylonmc4323]

The Comanches hated everyone. The US calvary had to be called in to save the Apache from the Comanche.

[@crazyhorseaz5224]

APACHE CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO COMANCHE OR SIOUX. I SPIT ON APACHE

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

You don't know anything about my culture -COMANCHE NATION

[@joshuabowes6585]

That was very interesting and very well told. You should do another video on the 2nd Seminole War in Florida.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Great to see this history being covered. Subbed!

[@j.e.tingentingen4954]

thank you for your time in making this....

[@kayakdan48]

Great story telling! I'd love to hear what you would have to say about the Indian war of 1862 in Minnesota near New Ulm. Leading up to the mass hanging in Mankato. Ooops...I just realized I had already watched that video...another great presentation...Thanks!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJzWqX-metZ7nZI Funny you should say that...

[@latu8923]

That was awesome, just listening to you narrated that whole story feels like I was actually watching a movie. Thanks brother you got sub here...GB!

[@albertgarza4278]

Beautifully narrated! Also love the art work, will be watching out for your next great video.👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@brentcauble5416]

Ghost on the Mountain was a good one for this. Cool stuff. Thanks for bringing it to us.

[@sehingfrancis542]

Yu do a very e enjoyable and accurate and well reasoned out report each time. Thank yu..

[@notsosilentmajority1]

I just found your channel. Great stuff and extremely informative. Looking forward to many more videos.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

They come slowly, but I promise they will come. :)

[@notsosilentmajority1]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 That's fine. When the quality is this good, it is well worth the wait. Congratulations on a wonderful job. 👍

[@decimated550]

Jesus christ i've listend to 3 of your videos and it's 214 in the morning. Wow brother you have a gift a narration, so much a relieving contrast to the autospeech too often in youtube today! i just finished reviewing a book for my book club, General Crook and the Western Frontier (Robinson, 2001). I am now a Crook fan to the max - i'll be telling my history buff friends about him. My god, a blend of humanitarian and warrior, he broke many indian tribes but afterwards fought even his own people to ensure their fair treatment. He was not a cruel racist as many americans were in that day. A great man, he should be better known than he is. Custer gets all the attention but he was a fool and a fop. Can you do any videos on Crook?

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Many of my future videos will include General Crook, but that's not a bad idea to dedicate one exclusively to him.

[@freedom1028]

Hahaha! I know how you feel! Fighting sleep for as long as you can for good videos then, Jeezus, look at the tme! 🤣🤣🤣

[@joeadams1225]

Great presentation and educational. Thanks.

[@stevebowman2368]

Great video,from Cornwall,UK,thankyou

[@BenSHammonds]

I enjoy the history, east of the MS has some good stories too, love the Daniel Boone era actions, my ancestor Philip Hammond (Hamman) was in battle of Pt Pleasant in 1774 and then he and John Pryor volunteered to go afoot from there to the Greenbrier settlements some 160 miles east to give warning to the out lying farms in 1778, culminating in the battle for Donnellys Station which was a heated fight. You can google it and read about it. Those were rough days

[@andrewmaccallum2367]

Absolutely excellent 👏👏👏 Thank you for sharing this 👍

[@rodrigjose]

first time I have heard of this battle, real good. brave men on both sides.

[@josephking2987]

Love the artwork

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Charles Russel, Frederic Remington, and George Catlin are the artists whom I regularly "borrow" art.

[@johnpatterson4816]

You mean a bayonet not a bonnet.

[@michaelwojcicki3624]

Very informative, well told.

[@n0denz]

A Cherokee war cry and Rebel Yell would be terrifying to be on the business end of. What a bunch of madmen!

[@Theworkingclassdrummer]

Great video where did you get the background music? I love it

[@markusbauer9085]

Thank you for this fascinating story telling and presenting that stunning imagery. I'm just reading John R. Cook's book "The border and the buffalo" where many of your quotations are from. Keep going!

[@dylonmc4323]

Great story in much detail and research. Consider the OSAGE and doing one on them because they where actually the most powerful tribe for awile. Even Thomas Jefferson sent correspondence to make peace with them and the Spanish after decimating most other native tribes where terrified of the Osage. So much so they imported other tribes to Missouri to keep a 100 mile buffer zone between them. The Osage traded with the french then watched the British come and then they dealt with the Americans. Then one Indian tribe after another including Cherokee who where put on Osage land but then declared war on the Osage. The Osage at their peek ruled a four state area restricted only by natural barriers like the Mississippi river. They where a wood land Indian, prairie Indian and where seen as powerful among the plains Indians including the Sioux from which they came. The Osage were brought down mostly by small pox and other diseases brought by the whites but then little by little other Indian tribes and whites took their land until they where forced to go to Oklahoma on the edge of what use to be their land but then they struck it rich with oil becoming among the richest people on earth and most people have never even heard of the Osage as if they where never even here. ...The Osage where also said to be perfectly built, giants who where often above 6, 5 and even 7 '. ....I've never seen any close to that height but all the early reports say this it seems.

[@Baseballisbest67]

Books or articles ?

[@yorktown2203]

Thank you 👍

[@ron4524]

❤ 🎉

[@triggerboy85v59]

Subscribed, great video. Keep doing what you doing good sir!

[@castenmackerer3278]

well researched, enjoyed it. not to much good video or series out there except the major fights, of the indian wars. Need material like this. Thanks.

[@FRANKLIN-nu6wo]

Well done and some additional insight given!

[@johnhowes7297]

How about doing a show on the Jamestown massacre of 1622 and one on King Phillips war?

[@johnreynolds6499]

Great video. Thanks.

[@thomasgroggett2000]

Thanks Walrus!!! Keep them coming

[@SonnySoltero]

Brilliant storytelling. Some may call it heroism, or "effectively executed" to attack a superior force, with long-ranged single-shot rifles, but on horseback, when the enemy is equipped with rapid-firing repeating rifles. A military tactics instructor or any experienced leader would probably find better names for such tactics.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

Not to mention they had just murdered 60k Comanche women and children at Fort Sill Oklahoma -COMANCHE NATION

[@ArmyVet82ndAbn]

Have you done the story of the Chiricahua Apache wars under Chief Cochise? I lived at Ft. Huachuca in southern AZ. and have always been interested. The largest fight with Cochise I think is Apache Pass. Thanks for your videos, very educational and Ive enjoyed them. The art is awesome, thanks again and please continue with the Indian wars.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

One day...this channel will be a lifelong project into American West history. Cochise was a personal hero of mine as a child.

[@harrydebastardeharris987]

From what I have read.The Comanche we’re a relatively peaceful and docile tribe that we’re the victims of more War like tribes.This was before the Invasion of America by Spain who introduced the Horse.The became an aggressive, military like Tribe once they became a Horse culture,as did many other Tribes of the West.

[@alexandersummerville5003]

I believed they were bullied by the Apaches and other tribes, then seeking revenge after mastering the horse.

[@kickahaw]

Do you have any content about Ft Scott, Kansas or the osage ?

[@rubycollins3492]

Great video

[@lucienvandegaart3611]

Some tough critters walked on 2 legs back in those times in those places. Sounds very adventurous yet very fatal. Skill knowledge preparation and Abit of good luck you might stay alive in 1 piece. Very well described story.

[@thechiefwildhorse4651]

So who are the critters? The illegal Europeans? -COMANCHE NATION

[@thomasfoss9963]

For years, the Comanche witnessed the slaughter of their main food source, just for the hides and tongues of the bison they relied on---- They were only defending their food, and way of life from the greedy buffalo hunters who took everything they could--- Their land, their food sources, and their minerals--- The Comanche, after fighting off the Spanish and Mexicans for a couple hundred years, finally succumbed to the Europeans relentless assaults on their lives and culture------

[@MaitreMark]

Great presentation.

[@stevegaines3590]

thank you..... keep the videos coming....

[@Truly1Tom]

The Second Battle of Adobe Walls happened on June 27, 1874, it was where between an estimated warparty of 700-1000 Comanche, Kiowa and Cheyenne warriors under the nominal command of Quannah Parker , Quahadi Comanche War Chief.

[@jackblackpowderprepper4940]

One of my favorite stories. When Billy Dixon makes his famous 1538 yard shot.

[@dylonmc4323]

@@jackblackpowderprepper4940 yeah everyone here are for the Indians getting wiped out.

[@j.e.tingentingen4954]

​@@jackblackpowderprepper4940 can you send a link to that story.... if you can thank you if not thank you.... check out the bloody beaver pod cast.... that guy Josh kowns how to tell stories.....

[@jackblackpowderprepper4940]

@@j.e.tingentingen4954 I can't seem to find the first story about that I read. But I just Googled "Billy Dixon's Adobe walls shoot" and many, many versions of the story came up. I've read at least 8 versions and the only thing different is the type of rifle he used. I've heard 45/90, 45/120 and 50/110. The Buffalo Hunters stories I've read say they preferred the big fifties Sharps.

[@adamdickson1404]

Fascinating history, thank you!

[@Lamadredelostomates]

Dude I’m dying why did you put the William knife man war cry at 8:59, can’t breath rn. Great video!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

We had a heart-to-heart in a port-a-potty. XD

[@lamontwashington6496]

Very interesting history. How about doing something about the Pacific Northwest?

[@geneotrexler8246]

Good video 👍🏼

[@carywest9256]

Cool niçknames of the buffalo hunters!

[@jbflores01]

Really liked your video. What is the Map you used that shows the rivers at the start of your video? I'd like to get a copy but need who made it and the year it was published. Thanks!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

County map of Texas, filed in 1870 by Samuel Augustus Mitchell.

[@malcolmt7883]

Thrilling account, very sharp.

[@tem_vremenem_v_kanade]

Alliance between québécois and Mohawk would be very interesting to hear. A la Leonardo DiCaprio’s “the revenant”

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

Excellent upload. Thank you New sub.

[@cclars6411]

The Modoc warrior Captain Jack would be a good to hear you talk about. He was an indian in the Northern California area. Thank you for the great show.

[@grassroot011]

good story, never heard before, thanks.

[@sierragrey7910]

One day somebody is going to have the first real evidence that their are still black mountain lions, cougars, panthers, or whatever the big cat is called, in Mississippi. I’m with you bro.

[@Dkthearn]

Bro did you hear that report about a Jaguar that was found all the way in Texas

[@Dkthearn]

I've also seen a mountain lion in the middle of the desert at least 70 miles from the nearest mountain or Forest I mean straight tumblewees and Joshua trees

[@zsedcftglkjh]

14:32 An awesome moment brought to life!

[@roberttalbot1658]

Terrific story. Enjoying this a bunch.

[@formisfunction1861]

That is an incredible image at 22:04. Is it connected to this story or another?

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

While I used it in a different context, the photograph is from a Canadian scout in Alberta. If memory serves, it's an 1874 photograph of the mutilated bodies of Crow Indians killed by Blackfeet.

[@chipsthedog1]

Here's something I found out recently that I'd never heard before Pat Garret was killed by the Grandfather of the man who found the alleged UFO crash outside Roswell which is also where Garret was shot.

[@bbanta06]

I'd love to hear anything you've can find on Terry's Texas Rangers as my 3g-Grandfather, Arthur Pue III, was one of them!!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

The Civil War is my area of expertise; however, this channel is going to stick exclusively to the events in the American West. Check out 'History Gone Wilder' channel. That man does a TON of great work on the War of Northern Aggression.

[@oldmanballer5088]

I graduated from Quanah high school many years ago!

[@stanthomson2693]

I'm 74! When my grand father arrived at the Apachie Res in `1901 he found a man with two dead babies in his hand. He had bashed the brains out on a rock. Twins girsl were not welcome. Nobel savages !

[@jeremywatson4860]

Quanah didn't take his mother's last name because it was a custom. It wasn't a custom at all. Comanches didn't have last names. He took it as an adult out of respect and as an honor to that side of his family.

[@mirrage42]

Using a last name was necessary after he was dealing with White civilization.

[@jeremywatson4860]

@@mirrage42 there was only one quanah.. I'm sure that helped bridge the gap though. I was mostly pointing out that he wasn't born with the parker name attached to his. He didn't even know his roots growing up. He later befriended that side of his family especially his uncle John (I think it was John) who was captured by Comanche the same time that quanahs mom was. He never really fit back into white society either.

[@daviddigital6887]

​@@jeremywatson4860the Parkers didn't want anything to do with him. Some people of high standing wrote letters on his behalf to the family asking for any help they could give him but to my understanding they never responded. The Cattlemen helped him secure the money to build Star House as a thank you for his help in securing grazing land on the reservation.

[@jeremywatson4860]

@@daviddigital6887 ive read that quanah and his uncle became good friends later in life. I don't know how many Parker's were actually left by the time he figured everything out. I don't doubt what you say tho. There was an intense hatred between whites and Comanche

[@haroldj.hutchinson9434]

It was great, thanks.

[@tomroberts9794]

Great story!

[@scottnix4991]

Outstanding.

[@Arminius420]

Amazing history

[@brandon7482]

9:00 hahahaha is that the yell of the “Indian spirit guy” from Reservation dogs! Hahaha

[@catfishjohn56]

plese do modoc wars captan jack

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Modoc Wars were definately on my 'to do list,' but the fact is that a channel called 'The Story Out West' did it better than I could ever hope to do. Give his video on said subject a look. He actually goes to the battlefield and walks you around the site. It's great stuff!

[@derekwarren1548]

Cus D Amato described fear as fuel. It's how that fear is absorbed or digested.

[@jaysilverheals4445]

my suggestion is the northwest indian war which was the biggest indian war ever though few know it. Having grown up in Spokane knowing the area well that is where George Wright rode up after steptoe was attacked and camped latah creek barely south of Spokane and told the indians "bring the indians responsible immediately" (which they did because they objected to the few warriors bringing this upon them) and he hanged them on the spot. thats why its called "hangman creek" after doing that he then rode up into what would become Spokane and rode out into the valley and had 800 horses slaughtered with the men crying as they did it. It was a massive war that involved the entire state but rarely covered most videos only being done about various skirmishes and Custer and other single battles. The focus for such a report would be battle of steptoe butte and George Wright who then was sent General Sherman style. Even as Spokane was being settled with Glover one of the first the indians started doing war dances scaring the hell out of everyone. after a few days Glover said "stop this or I will send for my friend George Wright!" and everything stopped.

[@oneilgrau9107]

Enjoy the history of the plain tribes. Would like have history of the Indian tribes of Ohio River, western Tennessee and Mississippi state and River. Thanks for the history.

[@jadefurman2840]

Please cover the "spirit lake massacre" Loads of historic events that set the stage for the Lakota uprising in Minnesota.

[@kenthatfield4287]

I would like you to do a gig on the nez Perce but their fight with general miles

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Chief Joseph is a figure I definitely want to do a video about. Would be interesting. Thank you for the suggestion!

[@MrW781]

Seems to be out of the timeline you have made videos for, but how about stories from early American conflicts like the French & Indian War, Cherokee Wars, and the like?

[@kazzy1001]

Is that last of the Mohicans soundtrack I’m hearing??

[@CoiKickapoo]

Kiowa!!!please do plains tribe specifically kiowa. I am a descendant of war chief Santana. Battle of Adobe walls

[@brianpauley4831]

A suggestion, a tribe living near coastal North Carolina actively fought a guerilla war against the Confederacy during the war for Southern Independence. Hope you can do a story on them.

[@MelGibsonFan]

“War for southern independence” Is referring to the south’s rebellion this way a regional thing?

[@_rob_.]

​@@MelGibsonFanno.

[@MelGibsonFan]

@@_rob_. I’m guessing it’s an ideological thing.

[@bellywooton]

Let us hear some independent tales of quana parker

[@TuxedoTalk]

These accounts are always surprising to me. How small the numbers are when compared to the civil war fought a decade or so ago. How under supplied and equiped they are. Carrying water in boots for example. Why don't you have water supply as part of your battle logistical supply line? It's been a standard sense Roman times. Then there's the tactics. I understand a surprise charge in the days of spear and shield but their primary weapons are the long ranged rifle. Wouldn't sneaking into or charging to take the high ground the Indians took up make more sense? The shock should have been a hail of gun fire. I think the west was won primary by tough men for sure but also men that just didn't know what they where doing.

[@christianstough6337]

It was quite rare for any military group to get within range of the Comanches. Also quite rare for anyone to dare to try. The Comanches/Kiowa would usually just beat the crap out them- not always, but usually. They consistently defeated their neighboring tribes, the Spanish, The Mexicans, the Texans and the US Army, and did so all the way through the Civil War. Everyone was terrified of them and for good reason. The only reason McKenzie was able to was because it was the end of the line for the Buffalo and the Comanche as a viable nations.The buffalo had been reduced to nothing and the Comanches had also been reduced in population due to epidemics and their aggressive warlike relations with all neighbors. His strategy of going after the horse heard was the correct one. That strategy was always the easiest one for the Comanches to use against their opponents; unless they felt like fighting- which they often did. With no horses or a reduced herd, any force going up against the Comanches is turned into a joke. Mckenzie learned this the hard way, but then used the same strategy against the Comanche/Kiowa. Most minor successes against the Comanche are usually way overblown- this one was not.

[@praetoriandorn3154]

The expectation from experience that the hunters and anyone opposed to the Indians was that a village would scatter quickly if they discovered a force nearby that could challenge them. So, finding a village and remaining undetected was a golden opportunity. However, when the Indians determined that they would stand their ground this tactic was not very effective as the Indians used their overwhelming numbers to good effect. Custer and his boys tried the same thing and paid the price, though most of them were not experienced buffalo hunters nor had much experience as soldiers.

[@jeffreyball6618]

@@praetoriandorn3154 .

[@thomasfoss9963]

@@christianstough6337 Yes, you are correct-- The slaughter of their buffalo herds, and the killings of most of their ponies, and disease spelled the end of the Comanche, and their way of life forever--

[@ellicesanchez3194]

I wish the original maps were linked in the description. I'd really like to get a closer look.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Ellice Sanchez It is the 1873, County Map of Texas by John Mitchell. Should be the first several choices when searched on Google.

[@justinheritage8935]

I know Knifeman when I hear him...most fierce warrior of all time!

[@ludwigderzanker9767]

I know some about Quanah Parker and find him a very important person for his time. But he became Headchief of the Comanche yet in the reservation. You mean Kiowa Apache not Lipan. The latter hadn't 1877 not 50 people left.

[@charlesbyrd6055]

Cause they were trained soldiers Overwhelmingly rebels My ancestors

[@chestersleezer8821]

The Buffalo hunters really needed to have another 30-40 more men with them. Now they were Buffalo Hunters but only numbered 45 men and facing a force that had around 4-5 times their number. But this event finally led to the ending of the Comanche being a threat in Texas. Because this force while being out numbered had in their hands a weapon that was meant for shooting at a distance and were in the following Calibers; 44, 45 & 50. Most being the latter and whatever was hit by one was going to stay down. Thus the results of 35 Indians KIA and another 22 WIA to only having several wounded, with 1 dying of his wounds later.

[@onlythewise1]

Europe loved buffalo skins

[@michaelschott5590]

Well done.