The 1959 Candidates: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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GMBenjaminFinegold

22 күн бұрын

This lecture was recorded on April 29, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Philip Siller for sponsoring this video!
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10:34 Bobby Fischer vs. Svetozar Gligorić
22:28 Paul Keres vs. Bobby Fischer
29:34 Bobby Fischer vs. Pal Benko
36:07 Mikhail Tal vs. Vasily Smyslov
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@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 20 күн бұрын
i don't know why but i just love content about these dusty old 1950s-1980s tournaments and players. thank you so much Ben, it's always an enlightening pleasure to listen to you :)
@MarkWiseTechno
@MarkWiseTechno 19 күн бұрын
Mikhail Tal is never dusty
@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 19 күн бұрын
@@MarkWiseTechno that's right, he always made sure he was well watered 💦😂🍻
@nuwandalton
@nuwandalton 19 күн бұрын
@@f.d.3289 😋
@nateshsudarshan3743
@nateshsudarshan3743 19 күн бұрын
I think the overwhelming attitude back then was to try to win with both colors. Lots of kings Indian, najdorf, poisoned pawn, semi slab Merans, sacrificial play. Also opening theory wasn’t as polished leading to a bit more flexibility. Nowadays the style of the era emphasizes few wins and many draws, as that style tends to win more tourneys. We still have a few brawlers out there, Shakh and Nepo often go for the throat, but generally it’s a lot of draw with black push gently with white. It’s… fine :/
@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 19 күн бұрын
@@nateshsudarshan3743 yeah... it just feels more honest and raw and authentic to me... blood, sweat and tears chess :) also, less hype and BS drama
@lysanderspooner1865
@lysanderspooner1865 20 күн бұрын
Thanks Phil. Thanks Ben "In this Position" Finegold.
@f.d.3289
@f.d.3289 12 күн бұрын
every single chess commenter who ever commented chess had "in this position" as middle name.. although many of the more refined ones are called "in this KIND of position"
@lukadobo4769
@lukadobo4769 20 күн бұрын
Nice to hear my country used to host events such as these. Bled is beautiful! Shame this is all in the past and most young people don't know about our rich chess history and since the breakup of Yugoslavia chess is not talked about and deemed less important for some reason. We even had a candidate one time(Milan Vidmar) and he was among the greats of his time. Thank you for another great lesson, hope you will visit Slovenia again!
@T-Dogg121
@T-Dogg121 19 күн бұрын
The most important pre-1950s global populariser of chess outside of Capablanca: Boris Kostic. World class competitors: Vidmar, Gligoric, Ivkov. Seminal contributors to opening theory: Velimirovic, Matanovic, Gligoric. Romantic attacking geniuses: Planinc, Ljubojevic, and Velimirovic. Hosted maybe the greatest blitz tournament of all time: Herceg Novi. Lots of other important tournaments. The importance of chess in Tito's Yugoslavia, and the Yugo contribution to 20th century chess is immense, second only to USSR maybe - both socialist states that gave a lot of public backing to the game. It's sad if the people of the individual post-Yugo SSR states can't draw on this shared chess heritage because of nationalism or similar reasons.
@mokovec
@mokovec 17 күн бұрын
I thought Pirc was from the same region.
@Alex-xk6md
@Alex-xk6md 13 күн бұрын
Id watch a video on the history of chess in yugoslavia and its players
@tomasjimenez185
@tomasjimenez185 20 күн бұрын
9:12 that "Petrosian" pronunciation was very good, go Ben!
@_nemo171
@_nemo171 20 күн бұрын
These candidates came before Ben was born.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 16 күн бұрын
Fantastic lesson! Somehow you managed to improve your lessons even more. I knew a couple of the Fischer games but they never get old. Thanks!!
@unclelarry3207
@unclelarry3207 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the lecture Ben. Great job!
@xwngdrvr
@xwngdrvr 20 күн бұрын
Go comment! What if I'm interested in sponsoring a lecture on Kramnik and his 'Make Chess Great Again' ideas? Nevermind, I just banned myself.
@pelicans456
@pelicans456 20 күн бұрын
Oh hell yeah, more Mike Tal content
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes 13 күн бұрын
Tal has more fun and excitement in that tournament than any other player had in his career
@user-ow6uj3hc7g
@user-ow6uj3hc7g 20 күн бұрын
classic !
@NelsonBoy2734
@NelsonBoy2734 20 күн бұрын
GO BEN!!
@ThatGuyYouSta1k
@ThatGuyYouSta1k 20 күн бұрын
I’d love to see a look at that game one of Tals WC win. Goes in, smashes his opponent with some super secret tech as white in g1? Or some boring squeeze?
@nuwandalton
@nuwandalton 20 күн бұрын
Korchnoi "would have been a bit young" Like 28? 😋
@Force95042
@Force95042 19 күн бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too! I could have sworn he was significantly older than Fischer and I was right lol
@IgorYagolnitser
@IgorYagolnitser 17 күн бұрын
@@Force95042yes, older than both Fischer and Tal.
@mattmolzan3992
@mattmolzan3992 20 күн бұрын
They all went to old school
@northshores7319
@northshores7319 19 күн бұрын
One good thing that comes out of the Candidate matches is that they give the eventual challenger match experience before he has to play in the Championship Match. It is quite hard to adjust to match play from tournament play. Good show about a historically famous tournament.
@muskyoxes
@muskyoxes 13 күн бұрын
It doesn't seem like it should be that hard to adjust, because you get months of preparation with a team helping you
@northshores7319
@northshores7319 12 күн бұрын
@@muskyoxes There is Tournament Chess and there is Match Chess Play and they are as different as Night is to Day. You only learn how to play in either by...well...simply by playing. There is no amount of help others can give you to make you do well prior to playing. Just ask Kasparov about how hard it was for him when he played Karpov in their first match even tho' he had prior match experience. Playing up a level is always harder.
@lemat579
@lemat579 Күн бұрын
20:00 illegal move instantly loose a game in blitz tournament? I am interested, as in a month time I will play my first blitz tournament...
@GraemeCree
@GraemeCree 14 күн бұрын
The drought actually lasted 44 years. Between the 1934 match and the 1978 match, Petrosian is the only world champion to have won a match. The war reduced the number of matches, but there were still 13 matches during that drought, including the abortive Karpov-Fischer match in which the challenger took the title yet again.
@stevelavalette6898
@stevelavalette6898 20 күн бұрын
Who was on Fisher's team ?
@paulgottlieb
@paulgottlieb 19 күн бұрын
Two notes on the Fischer -Gligorich game (game 1) in My 60 Memorable Games Fischer says of 13.Qe2!? "13.Bxc4 Rxc4 14.g4 was the usual, and good. procedure." And on 32. Qh7+ he says "Again a mistake! 32.Bxe6+ mates more quickly"
@comeforthwithclips
@comeforthwithclips 13 күн бұрын
10:04 in 1959 Korchoi was 28 years old, not too young
@hey-sq6km
@hey-sq6km 20 күн бұрын
29:01
@shakingdavid
@shakingdavid 19 күн бұрын
I would have thought Philip was the main way of spelling Philip.
@mrigankjain1817
@mrigankjain1817 19 күн бұрын
At 40:07 why cant black after QA1+,KD2 take the rook on D1 and then after rook takes back, take the Queen?
@boyanmihaylov3009
@boyanmihaylov3009 15 күн бұрын
Becaus when black takes the queen knoght f7 is fork
@Vinterfader
@Vinterfader 14 күн бұрын
In the final game, why didnt Smyslov play Qxd1+ before picking up the queen? Dont you get an extra rook?
@salmarwow
@salmarwow 13 күн бұрын
In that variation white takes on d1, black takes on f7 and white's knight takes on f7 with a fork. Meaning that bishop on d8 will be lost and white is up a piece. In game white is up an exchange, which is slightly better for black.
@Vinterfader
@Vinterfader 13 күн бұрын
@@salmarwow thanks! I found a lichess study of the game and found that as well.
@XVRMEDIA
@XVRMEDIA 20 күн бұрын
Lubalanja should be Ljubljana 😂😂😂
@zainquadri1206
@zainquadri1206 19 күн бұрын
@12:40 "He's trying to play the dragon sicilian" Trying is the first step to failure...?
@IgorYagolnitser
@IgorYagolnitser 17 күн бұрын
Korchnoi was too young to play? He was 28 and older than both Fischer and Tal.
@douglaslarosa8782
@douglaslarosa8782 19 күн бұрын
Go, candidates! But play more decisive games 👹
@paparatzz7531
@paparatzz7531 20 күн бұрын
When Ben does an accent it just sounds like a word he can't pronounce
@ashutoshpattnaik5446
@ashutoshpattnaik5446 20 күн бұрын
Always second
@PaulThronson
@PaulThronson 16 күн бұрын
I predict never again will someone successfully defend the world chess championship. Magnus will be the GOAT.
@WhizzerdSupreme
@WhizzerdSupreme 20 күн бұрын
Always comment first!
@sacundim
@sacundim 19 күн бұрын
Given that Tal was from Latvia which the Soviets invaded and annexed in 1940, and russified thereafter until independence was restored in 1991, it is entirely possible that your comment that there was a rule that he had to be called Mikhail has some sliver of truth. Wikipedia gives his Latvian name as Mihails Tāls and his birth in 1936. Though from what I understand he was very russified, even did his university degree in Russian literature
@T-Dogg121
@T-Dogg121 19 күн бұрын
Tal was more culturally Jewish and Soviet than he was Latvian, though he was proud to represent the Latvin SR in chess.
@user-ys3eg2dm7e
@user-ys3eg2dm7e 19 күн бұрын
I might argue, Pillsbury is the best player to never become world champion. Hastings 1895 was impressive, winning against a field consisting of 7 world champions, future world champions and world champion challengers, and at only 22 years old. Too bad he got Syphilis.
@AboveAvgMan
@AboveAvgMan 18 күн бұрын
At least he didn't catch no damn aids
@fundhund62
@fundhund62 18 күн бұрын
Pretty confident that honour should go to Rubinstein. No doubt he was the best player in the world for some time between 1909 and 1912.
@danielfuchs7065
@danielfuchs7065 15 күн бұрын
This is a video every chess player must watch!
@GraemeCree
@GraemeCree 15 күн бұрын
This lecture should have been called "Fischer's First Candidates", because the lecture is not really about the tournament.
@eudesgeoffroy8416
@eudesgeoffroy8416 18 күн бұрын
Tons of factual mistakes about the WCCs. Hopefully the Chess Notes guy does not watch those vids. Red thumb.
@ragnorak56
@ragnorak56 19 күн бұрын
Tal's calculation is over-rated. I have it on good authority that he calculated 2 + 2 as 5.
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