Check out chop blocks, the old high/low block, and other blocking styles from the 1970's that are illegal today. Awesome game footage showcasing the best linemen who didn't get their proper due is featured.
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@jpkillibrew1638Күн бұрын
Thank you for recognizing these great football players
@markgardner946014 сағат бұрын
You're welcome. I appreciate that!
@neubert5002 күн бұрын
Thank you Good Sir! Linemen RARELY every get attention yet there would not be a game without them!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more! I miss viewing footage like this. Now it's seemingly a game of grab & hold.
@williamparker88403 күн бұрын
Fine job again buddy. I commented many months ago on this subject and mentioned VAN NOTE then. I was happy to see that you put him on the thumbnail photo. Thanks.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Thanks for the idea! It was a toss-up for me regarding who graced the thumbnail: Van Note or Kunz
@Roterhals2 күн бұрын
What a great video, fantastic topic and great tidbits (high-low blocking seems like an eternity ago). Van Note is probably my favorite all time Falcon and a great guy to boot. Loved seeing him and Kunz on here.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I wish the story of Van Note was told on a major media platform because it's astounding how he propelled his career overnight from a "minor league" team to the starting line-up over a long period of time at a very high level of play. The odds against him succeeding in that manner after being an 11th round draft pick and playing in a "minor league" are astronomical.
@Classicrocker61193 күн бұрын
Outstanding footage as always! The isolation break down of plays is off the charts. You have to give these guys credit who played back then. Coming back from injuries and making the money then the players make today.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
The blocking back then was SO much different than now. Today it's more like rugby, in my opinion.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460Definitely a more hard -nosed game then amazing how some of these players were so durable!!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
There were a few aspects of the game that played into that durability. One year contracts, small roster sizes, the feeling that you'd lose your job if you didn't play, and medical properties that would most likely be frowned upon being used in today's game.
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 very true!
@keithsowder430819 сағат бұрын
Great stuff again ! I can't believe that Gillingham isn't in the HOF...he was a beast ! One of the best OG's I ever saw play !
@markgardner946017 сағат бұрын
I realize that the Packers from their glory days are well represented, but he was the only one who effectively crossed over into the '70's. He's the lineman most responsible for Brockington gaining 1,000 yards three consecutive years when the Packers had no passing game and defenses were stacking the line.
@keithsowder430814 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 100%
@jammininthepast2 күн бұрын
A fine job of highlighting these great players. O-line, blocking fullback's (e.g. Braxton/Bills) never get any attention and they ARE the essential building blocks. Show me a potential SB team and I'll show you solid O & D lines. I loved all of those guys in this great vid. Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Back in the day, if a team was a contender, then you knew that they had to have solid offensive and defensive lines. I'd hate to be a voter for offensive linemen today. Everybody legally holds - do they pull Guards anymore? To me, there's very little to differentiate a great blocker from an average one. Anyway, as always, thank you for your comments - much appreciated!
@kevincostello38562 күн бұрын
Being a Steeler fan we had a pair of guards and a Right tackle that converted from TE to Tackle and that's Larry Brown TE 71 Through 76 , Tackle 77-84. Our two guards : LG Sam Davis 67-79 and " Moon" Mullins RG 71-79 . Massively underrated , we ran the trap and those two paved roads for Franco Harris. Also our LT Jon Kolb 69-81. There are really so many, Besrs Guard Revie Sorey whom Walter Payton did some of his best years in the 70s when Chicago had little else. Cardinals had Bob Young played 1966-1981 , and his fellow teammate Conrad Dobler the " dirtiest player " in the NFL in the 70s was his rep. but Dobler went to 3 straight Pro Bowls. To name a few. As usual here just great effort on this, please keep'em coming.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Thank you for bringing up those names - good stuff! I remember watching Bob Young carrying a fridge on his back during The World's Strongest Man competition sometime around '78.
@Paul11B2P3 күн бұрын
Great video 🎉
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Thank you 😁 Overcoming technical difficulties was a challenge in getting this video published, so I'm glad that you liked it!
@fringephoto3 күн бұрын
GREAT!!!!!!! Please keep them coming!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
I'll do my best. Thank you!!
@MichaelPiz2 күн бұрын
Always appreciate some lineman love! Lots of names in this one that I'd forgotten until now.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
I also remember Jerry Sisemore another very consistent player i actually remember every player on the list! You did a excellent job here Mark! Every player here was very good to great..another fine production Mark!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Thanks you, Steven! I've been wanting to do a video like this for a long time, but I knew that it was going to be a daunting challenge. I'm glad that I finally published it and that you enjoyed it.
@Fell2142 күн бұрын
Been watching since the 60s. Enjoy your videos.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@tombarbeausr70222 күн бұрын
Thank you again for a great video. All of these linemen would be "3" blockers in Strat-O-Matic. Cheers
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Is "3" the top rating?
@Boomhower8918 сағат бұрын
It’s a shame how injuries would cut the careers of so many great players short back in the day. Knee injuries were pretty much career ending for so many,not to mention back injuries. Another great job on the making of a video.
@markgardner946017 сағат бұрын
Surgery was in it's prehistoric stage compared to today. Just think of how many careers could have been saved and/or enhanced. Namath with 2 somewhat healthy knees? Fahget about it!
@harryschnepp59073 күн бұрын
I use to play APBA Football all these lineman were top of their games, nice work, my main man though, Conrad Dobler, thanks again for the memory's
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Amazingly, I have not played APBA football. I did however play, seemingly, thousands of hours playing another baseball board game as a youth. Thanks, Harry!
@harryschnepp59072 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Strat-O-Matic fanatic still Baseball . thank you
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
I still have all the pages and pages of statistics that I compiled from 40+ years ago. To say that I was addicted was a gross understatement.
@mhlaw2292 күн бұрын
Another great video! I was a Jeff Van Note fan too. He anchored a terrific offensive line by the late 70s
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yes, that Falcons offensive line was somethin' else back then. Not only were they terrific run blockers, but also pass blockers. They were a main contributor to the big numbers that the "skill" positions posted.
@mhlaw2292 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Yes, around 1980, they were probably the best in pro football. Bartkowski took a hell of a beating early in his career before that line came together. 1975-1977 were pretty brutal for Falcons QBs.
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
Kim McQuilken: 4 years with Falcons, 4 td passes & 28 interceptions, and a 39.9 completion percentage.
@mhlaw229Күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Ha, yeah. Obviously the Falcons didn't have a talented QB before Bartkowski, but those other guys just didn't have a chance. The Rams in particular demolished the Falcons twice a year back then. It's hard to watch clips of 70s games between the Rams and Falcons, what beat downs
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
He played with the Falcons from '74-'77. I remember the Falcons beating the Rams on 5 Nick Mike-Mayer field goals in '73, but other than that I don't recall them beating 'em much, if at all, in the '70's.
@LesterMoore2 күн бұрын
The NFL is missing the promotional vote, BIG TIME.. More spotlighting of the offensive and defensuve lineman should be brought to the viewing fan's notice. The stellar running back, strong armed QB, the lithe swift wide receivers, flankers and multi-skilled tight ends, eagle eyed defensive half-backs and exciting safeties would have scant opportunities if their respective linemen failed consistently in their roles. There used to be a magazine (bring back sports magazines with their great articles and exciting splashy pictures) that covered only the linemen. It was great. The lineplay, their thoughts on opponents ... all was well received. Anyways, thank you for this presentation. It's grand.
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your take; it's much appreciated. Playing in "The Pit" is not a glorious aspect of an offensive lineman's job and they're certainly not recognized nearly to the degree that they should, in my opinion.
@NigelIncubatorJones2 күн бұрын
Another great video.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it (this time with video footage)
@alfonsecoppola5938Күн бұрын
forrest blue was really good
@thomasgallagher709210 сағат бұрын
Randy Rasmussen played from 67-81 with the Jets and was a blue collar lineman that played in the trenches for a long time
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Thank you for bringing up his name! He only missed 2 starts in the '70's! I considered him for inclusion in this video, but was looking for players who had at least one Pro Bowl or All-Pro season.
@surfshack23 күн бұрын
Being an Eagles fan , I knew all the offensive linemen in the late 70’s. Guy Morris, Stan Walters and of course Jerry Sizemore.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
I remember the '79 and '80 All-Pro cards of Stan Walters. Those All-Pro cards were cool every year in the '70's...except they didn't have 'em in '70.
@RL3sports2 күн бұрын
I spent some time around Jack Rudnay in the mid 80's. He was a great guy.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
That's cool! Just think, he started in Pro Bowls over Mike Webster who is a Hall of Famer.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Forrest Blue was kinda a sad story he started out gangbusters and looked to be a long time Pro Bowl and possibly HOF material but as you said,Mark he had a lot of injuries and he declined quickly.. from what I have heard he had health issues in her later years and passed away in a assisted living facility of CTE...
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Yes, it's sad. With all of the headbutting that linemen did back then with those flimsy helmets, it undoubtedly lead to a lot of concussions.
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Indeed it did.
@tonytaylor81982 күн бұрын
Good stuff all tough guys.
@lucabrasisleepswiththefish772 күн бұрын
I liked it much better w/ video...Thanks.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Yes! It was intended to be published with video action, but there was some technical difficulties that prohibited it (glad that's squared away!)
@jstube363 күн бұрын
How about Grady Alderman. Playing LT for 15 seasons mostly with the Vikings. Protected the blindside for both Fran Tarkenton and Joe Kapp. Grady went to 6 Pro Bowls. Milt Sunde could be another mention.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
They were good players, no doubt, but neither had a Pro Bowl or All-Pro season in the 1970's...which is the decade in question. I thought of doing an Honorable Mention, but that would have been far too time-consuming and labor-intensive for me. Thanks for bringing 'em up!
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
8 sacks allowed by the Cardinals was incredible! Young was part of a great offensive line with Dobler,Finnie Dierdorf!
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Reggie McKenzie never made a Pro Bowl? I didn't know that! And the Bills had one of the first great nicknames for offensive lineman " The Electric Company!"
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Upshaw and Larry Little were regulars and back then I think they only carried 3 Guards on each Pro Bowl roster, so it was tough to make it.
@denisceballos97453 күн бұрын
Good to see the big guys in the trenches getting some props. That’s really where the games are won or lost IMO, especially in that era. The only other O Lineman I would add would be Cleveland’s Doug Dieken (73) - 14 year career with the same team and a Pro Bowl in 1980. I just checked; From 1972 to 1984 he did not miss a start.
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Nice addition with Dieken. He falls in the Sisemore catagory, IMO. Never missed games with few, if any, accolades. I gave the nod to Sisemore cuz he had 1 Pro Bowl in the '70's where Dieken did not - super dicey - both are super underrated. How those guys were able to play every week back in that tough decade with rock-hard artificial turf fields is beyond me.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Dieken didn't make a Pro Bowl? He seemed so solid and consistent!
@denisceballos97453 күн бұрын
@@stevenzimmerman4057 He made one Pro Bowl in 1980, the year of the Cardiac Kids. BTW, Dieken scored a TD in 1983 - on a fake FG where he lined up as the TE.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
That 1980 club was so fun to watch (mainly highlights back then, unless they were a nationally televised team game).
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 if you were a Browns fan it was definitely a roller coaster ride!
@thomasgallagher70922 күн бұрын
As a NYG fan, I always thought that Doug Van Horn was an excellent, solid and reliable offensive lineman
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Great call. He only missed 5 starts in the entire decade of the '70's! He didn't make any Pro Bowl or All-Pro teams, so he didn't make my list, but I certainly appreciate you bringing up his name. He was a very solid player, as you stated.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Russ Washington very imposing very physical another excellent player! John Niland " Johnny Night Life?"didn't know that!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Washington was the heaviest NFL player for at least one year and maybe more. I remember that I did a search one time as to how many players weighed over 250 pounds and I think there were on 26 in 1973 with Washington being the heaviest at 289 pounds.
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 He was definitely a big dude!
@surfshack23 күн бұрын
Yes Mark!
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Sorry for the wait - experienced techical difficulties
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Gary Larson was no slouch,but Gillingham pushed him back seemingly effortlessly! He was obviously very powerful! I vaguely remember Devine switching him to defensive tackle! What was he thinking?
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
...and just 5 days before the start of the season! Come on, man!
@kevinkranz9156Сағат бұрын
ED WHITE VIKINGS GILLINGHAM GOPHERS AND PACKERS RON YARY VIKINGS
@docnoc663 күн бұрын
Hi Mark - going to throw on my 1969 Rams gamer # 64 Mike LaHood ….started in Rans vs Vikings division playoff at the Met - he’s in the hilites wearing the jersey and yeas it has the crotch piece
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
The blue and white! Nice!!
@wyliesmith4244Күн бұрын
I loved seeing Reggie McKenzie pulling on a sweep and hitting two different players.. I did not like Lombardi's packers, but I sure admired the way Vince plotted his sweeps. In the early sixties, all I could see was the local games (Giants 58 - 61, Browns 62 - 65, and Steelers 66- ...). But Thanksgiving Day games were on which led to a love of the Lions (Plum, Barr, Cogdill, Studstill, and Gibbons made for an interesting passing game while DT Roger was the first 300 poind player in the NFL. or so they said. I have a 1963 book, "The Game" by Tex Maule, which my father gave me. It has a good - but quick - overview on the league's teams, but most revealing to me was the piece on Lion RB Nick Pietrosante and his using the off-season to train/prepare for a real job in the real world after football. Times have changed, but thanks for posting footage of the football that i loved.
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
In the '62 Thanksgiving Day game, the Lions sacked Starr 11X. Roger Brown had 6 or 7 sacks. Thank you for your comments; I enjoyed them.
@wyliesmith4244Күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 If memory serves (dubious), Green Bay canceled further Thanksgiving games (after the already scheduled '63 game). And I think that both Karras and Hornung, the Golden Boy from Notre Dame, were suspended for all of '63 for gambling.
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
Yes, they did not play the Lions again on Thanksgiving until 1984. The Packers even hosted a 2015 Thanksgiving day game when they played the Bears.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
I definitely remember George Kunz.I think he was a heck of a player!
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
I remember as a kid getting his football cards every year and seeing All-Pro on almost every one. Too bad that his career was cut short.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
As you stated possible in the HOF if he stayed healthy.
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
Mike Livingston showed good wheels on his run 11;50 but he wasn't a great quarterback! I believe he started his career 10-0.but that was mostly behind Kansas City's great offensive line and superb defense! Once the Chiefs got older he got exposed! I think his career record after that was 21-43-1 with a horrible TD to interception ratio 56-83!
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
I think he played for the Vikes in the '80 pre-season, but was cut. Can you confirm?
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 You are correct sir! He didn't play in the regular season at all!
@stevenzimmerman40573 күн бұрын
I see Cardinals great Pat Fischer passed away yesterday. . RIP sir.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Oh, man. So many fine players. I'm 100% for him making the HOF. I just don't get what the voters have against him. A 17th round draft pick, he played 17 years and picked off 56 passes. More impressive than that, I think, is that he averaged 16.8 yards per return! He took four int's to the house. Of course his battles with Harold Carmichael are incredible. His tackling technique was unparallelled.
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I agree he should have been in the HOF years ago! And his battles with Carmichael were indeed epic!
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
Fischer effectively utilized leverage in bringing down ballcarriers. He was almost a wrestler on the playing field, in that regard.
@sandyboggs80992 күн бұрын
Redskin
@Boomhower8918 сағат бұрын
Jeff Eby channel has the 1960 pro bowl Worth a look. I think you will enjoy it.
@markgardner946017 сағат бұрын
I checked it out - cool to see players that I've never seen in action before!
@steelking222 күн бұрын
How could you ignore the team of the decade's offensive captain, guard Sam Davis? Also, how does a team win four Super Bowls in six years and hardly anyone talks about never miss a game LT Jon Kolb? Rayfield Wright, Leon Gray, Norm Evans and the Saul brothers all deserved more recognition than they received.
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
In comprising my list, I did not ignore any offensive lineman from the '70's. The fact is, other than Sam Davis being a Captain and 4X Super Bowl champion, he never made a Pro Bowl or All-Pro team - likewise with Jon Kolb. While I have included Honorable Mentions in previous videos, doing so for this position would have been a painstaking proposition. I spent nearly 25 hours producing this video as it was, so I elected to exclude that aspect. Thank you for bringing up those fine players, however, as nearly every offensive lineman who ever played is to be considered underrated, in my opiinion.
@steventhorson44872 күн бұрын
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@jjw563 күн бұрын
George kunz never got the credit he deserved!! And Tom banks!!! Nobody ever mentioned his name! Great list, no argument here
@markgardner94603 күн бұрын
Poor Tom Banks of the Cardinals - everybody either talked about nice guy and future Hall of Famer Dan Dierdorf or Conrad "Dirty" Dobler.
@stevenzimmerman40572 күн бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I remember Banks he obviously was a excellent player!
@donaldcampbell92192 күн бұрын
O.J. Looks like he was running thur the airport, jumping over luggage on his way to Hertz.
@markgardner94602 күн бұрын
"The superstar in rent-a-car". I remember hearing that more than once.
@AmishEcstasyКүн бұрын
Norm Van Brocklin smoking a dart LOL
@markgardner9460Күн бұрын
Kinda surprising that he didn't have a glass in the other hand.
@Boomhower893 күн бұрын
🇺🇸👍
@tomstevenson7940Күн бұрын
Basically TE's in todays NFL. Def not LM.
@williamcoolidge988415 сағат бұрын
You have to be a special kind of stupid to move an offensive guard coming off 3 Pro Bowls, a first team All-Pro, and a second team All-Pro to defense.
@markgardner946014 сағат бұрын
True, yet the guy still made the College Football Hall of Fame as a coach. Go figure.