The 1989 Ford F-350 Gunsmoke Is a HEAVY Beast - Can a New 2020 Chevy Silverado Handle It?

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[@nilsjohansson9739]

I'm impressed with that Chevy. It seems to be adequate at just about every level. Not super at anything, but not bad either. A good solid performer all the way around.

[@donleamon8653]

Well, if it's anything like the last two GM trucks I've owned, it will be superior at self-destruction.

[@davidleeosbourne2727]

Don Leamon I know mine self-destructed at 320,000

[@kyboy5]

This is a shame to the Chevrolet name. They aught to burn that ugly turd

[@kevinblock2307]

Trailboss keeps on being impressive - it’s a Swiss Army knife - can tow, go off-roading when needed and is comfortable to drive. Plus it looks great

[@hellkitty1014]

Not really terrible squat for a half-ton with softer(offroad) springs(Tundra TRD Pro woulda squated down to the bump stops towing this). Good payload and compromise on towing considering it is a 5.3 w/o max tow. Good MPG too for a gasser towing at the limit. Good job, Chevy from a Mopar guy!

[@philtripe]

rag on the truck (toyota) that way outlasts your Mopar... just burns you up inside doesnt it?

[@hellkitty1014]

@@philtripe I didn't rag on the Toyota. I mentioned the Tundra TRD Pro specifically and its well-documented super squat towing just half the max weight. The rear end is super soft and not ideal for leveled towing. Sure, the Toyotas do last quite a while(they've had 15 years on the same truck to figure it out), but you do indeed have to live with terrible crash ratings, terrible MPG, super dated interior, last decade tech, and lousy driving dynamics.

[@gagt5spd]

That trailer hitch was the same level as the factory hitch. You guys are creating a lever with that adjustable height hitch since it's not needed. It would help with the squat to put the weight distributing hitch straight into the factory hitch. Truck could also move back to the edge of the flat deck portion would make a big difference.

[@justinslishinsky6551]

Two words:NO DOUBT. Silverado Trailboss at its very best performance, off-road and towing. Can’t wait to get one myself. Way to go, Chevrolet and great video TFL

[@bcfmef]

you obviously have never driven anything else

[@timcartwright4679]

The Ford should be rolled back about 6". You should invest in a tongue scale, takes allot of the guess work out of loading.

[@GeminiWoods]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@JuanGarcia-qr1wr]

Yea he said "maybe about 1000 lbs tongue weight", lol that diesel engine ain't helping.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Next time back the F350 on. It puts the heavy diesel engine over the trailer axles.

[@MRLUGNUTS]

my trail Boss tows a 24ft inclosed with toolbox and generator with no problems

[@R.Nelson]

Wow!!!! That trailer almost sounds like submarine goin past it's crush depth... Surface Andre!! Surface!!😅

[@JustinKingOffroad]

like another said, set your weight distributing hitch after the load is on the trailer and you'll probably notice much less squat.

[@garretlewis4103]

Justin King Agreed. I thought his weight distributing could have used some adjustment after it had a load on it. It had too much squat for me with a weight distribution hitch.

[@cintocrunch]

Half ton trucks are really the best all purpose vehicles you can buy today, no surprise they are dominating sales. Need to haul your family in comfort? Need to remodel a bathroom? Need to tow a camper, boat, toys, old diesel pickup? Sure, let’s do all of that and get good mileage and have many luxury features and different style options (chrome, body color, blacked out) available. I have to say this gen Silverado was hard to look at initially but it is really growing on me. I know Tommy hates this truck but it’s done everything you’ve asked with no complaints.

[@pancho1071]

Now lets get the ford to pull the trailer with the chevy on it.

[@leonardrice1500]

You are asking the impossible for that old junk

[@wint_62]

Wyo Truckerman Fords are pos.

[@GeminiWoods]

That Ford would have no problem towing that Chevy.

[@Offshore1977]

That diesel in the Ford would have no issues towing that Chevy

[@wint_62]

Wyo Truckerman with that Ford V6 lmao. 🤡

[@Stevonoles1]

Probably better to back the truck on and get the diesel over the trailer axles. Solid towing either way.

[@jasonglaze7874]

You are exactly correct. Good observation.

[@chevyjaime4763]

Love that V8 rumble!

[@seagullsbtn]

If you loaded the trailer then set the WDH, it would have less squat

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Precisely!

[@billvanderpol]

Maybe backing gun smoke on the trailer would have reduced the tongue weight a bit?

[@mrlariata9290]

Wow that truck gets good fuel economy for towing.

[@jnk26]

11mpg is good for towing 9000lbs? Wow you have never towed with a diesel. My 12'6" tall, 35' long, 11k fifthwheel, at 63mph I'm getting 13.2mpg. But I'm rated at 21600lbs and only pulling 11000lbs

[@MaxJ260]

@@jnk26 Diesel is a completely different animal... can't compare

[@jnk26]

@@pryme2013 I didnt answer my own question. I'm getting better with the diesel than a gas. My 2019 will absolutely destroy gassers off the line. Empty just the truck I can get easily get 1600km(1000miles) out of a single tank. Can't do that with any gas V8 3/4 or 1 ton. Now as far as loading up to the max tow I dont own a 22k trailer. But I know my 6.7L with the 6 speed(3.55) will still out do the 7.3L with the 10 speed(4.30) just because of the 460lbft advantage(2000 rpm sooner) was test drove a 7.3 w/4.30 in a 2020 f350 and was severely disappointed. My current is better off the line and all the way up to highway speed towing than the 7.3 was on its own.

[@samduran5180]

@@pryme2013 He's comparing it to other gas trucks, like eco boosts. Those trucks get horrible gas mileage.

[@chadthompson5970]

Shoot yea my old 99 6.0 Chevy 2500 still tows good I just had 9000 pounds behind it the other day and the old girl did good even with the 343k miles she’s got on the motor and axles haha

[@terrencejones9817]

I have a 7300lbs Travel trailer and my Trail Boss tows it well. It does squat a bit more than I want, even with my weight distribution hitch. I attribute it to the off road spring rates.

[@user-gj8wo8lq9s]

The new Silverado is a beast.

[@kyboy5]

Big plastic beast

[@hdmotoman]

Until the AFM kills it...

[@smokefast90606]

Notice they didn't throw once hill at it all flat

[@8__D]

Can’t kill a pushrod!

[@tylermartin5560]

Yes I agree but I watched a 2006 f150 5.4 3v get put up on a weigh station with a trailer full of scrap and the total weight came to be 16,312 pounds so the 2006 ford is also a beast

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Thank you TFL! Your videos get more enjoyable all the time. Nothing cooler than a MAXXED OUT truck

[@dingakasteve]

I put air bags on the rear of my trail boss, works pretty well, I’d guess you had more than 950 on the tongue though because when I squat down to 38 inches I have about 1500 on the rear axle. Then I pump up the bags to 30psi and get back to 39.5ish

[@TheCamaro5]

if you need air bags then you are overloading the tongue weight. You may want to go up to a 3/4 ton truck with a class five hitch. they allow up to 1300 tongue weight. your reciever hitch isnt even rated for 950 tongue.

[@dingakasteve]

TheCamaro5 well it was 1500 on the rear axle I had the bed loaded, it’s rated for that much and I went through a weight station to check

[@GTFORDMAN]

a Chevy towing a Ford? that doesn't seem correct, something is off in the universe!

[@tortora1976]

Don’t fight it… It’s the natural order of things

[@GTFORDMAN]

@@tortora1976 im sure in your reality people wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people. :-p

[@jackcohen3999]

I doubt the new 2020 chevy will last 30 years like the Ford.

[@HOLAATODOS-os5te]

Yeah it will not last 30 yrs but 40 or 50 yeah!

[@guardrail2897]

Ford on a trailer. Nothing surprising about that.

[@drewelliott9062]

Yeah if you drive a Chevy you have to bring a Ford along to make sure you will make it home.

[@watferfoot1467]

@@drewelliott9062 Stop kidding and buy a Ram!

[@krash22mini72]

@@watferfoot1467 Ram is GARBAGE!!!!! just look it up

[@GeminiWoods]

@@watferfoot1467 Gotta be said, I like the look of the last gen RAMs but they are a wiring NIGHTMARE.

[@jeeppto5576]

thanks for the great video guys!! that Chevy is the real deal!!

[@youtuber13119]

My grandfather used to pull fully loaded hay wagons with a 96 six cylinder gmc Sonoma. If a six cylinder can handle twice it’s recommended weight I think yoire new truck should handle a few pounds over

[@Tiovergudo]

Maybe the next mod will be an AirLift airbags to help with squat. No need for the compressor version just the cheaper kit.

[@watferfoot1467]

A whatever 2500 is best for hauling

[@Reatheryn]

Put the truck on the trailer backwards. Engine weight in the back - less weight on the hitch.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

But then you have too much weight on the back and not enough on the tongue which will cause the trailer to sway and lose control. Ive seen it happen

[@meatball1080]

Vojtěch Pachman was gonna say the same thing. Putting it on backwards will allow them to pull it more forward on the trailer and put the engine weight more over the trailer tires and this will still give you enough tongue weight to be safe

[@Reatheryn]

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Seeing the distance from the end of the tailgate, to the rear axle center...you can drive the truck way closer to the hitch, thus keeping the tongue weight in a favorable range.

[@Reatheryn]

@Der Schwindel That just seems ridiculous to me, driving a 53 mpg crossover...

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

@@Reatheryn maybe you're right, just have to watch that the bed doesn't overhang too much to where the tow vehicle doesn't hit it when maneuvering the trailer.

[@PhatsoJuggalo806]

The new Silverados look like it got roundhouse kicked by a Ford and Ram on each side 🤮

[@badgerpa9]

Did you adjust the weight distribution hitch after you loaded it? Since you where pulling near max weight you do need the tongue weight to be heavy and it will squat that is design to lower the weight and stiffen up the suspension. You need the tongue weight on the Chevy so it stays in contact with the road you do not want the trailer to lift on the Chevy at all or you will not get good traction. Backing it on would have put the diesel engine weight over the trailer axle but since it is a pickup the rear of gunsmoke is relatively lighter and you may not have had enough weight to the tongue. I have max weight towed with my yukon often and getting the weight to the tongue is important to keep the truck tight to the ground and not have the trailer push it around. I would bet you had the rear axle weight maxed out also. Glad you showed this part finally, stay safe.

[@Lou-f]

Setting the hitch attachment lower should reduce the squat. Worth measuring next time you max out the trailer.

[@bendino9016]

I would hope that chevy would put up those numbers. That engine and transmission are one of the best combos for sale right now.

[@wint_62]

Of course the Chevy does it. It does everything. Most reliable, best looking truck out there. I love watching videos on those other trucks, Dodge, Ford and hearing the reviewers talk about how unreliable those trucks are 😂. Silverado, any day!!

[@cameroncassel994]

We have the same truck and simply love it!!!!!

[@ryansilva8007]

A little grease on the ball for the hitch would’ve eliminated the scream there in the beginning of towing

[@Otownbassin]

When the beat dropped during that broll!👌🏻

[@LukeEdward]

I think a better name would be the “TRAIL MIDDLE-MANAGEMENT “ It’s a nice truck but it seems to lacking in a few things that you need, there.

[@bryane2857]

Like?

[@jacobberlin614]

"Pardon me" lolll

[@erickisel8668]

Looks like the F-250 would have been the better choice for this job

[@flight2k5]

😂

[@_01JohnJ]

That truck is at least 29 years old, only time you would see a chevy do that!

[@leonardrice1500]

Why? He wasn't getting groceries.. Lol

[@bean4332]

maybe a new f-250

[@Zach-ju5vi]

@@leonardrice1500 lol that Chevy could barely tow that load. that old ford would make that Chevy feel like a bunch of groceries.

[@williskeesel6049]

The 7.3 engine weighs exactly 1000 pounds, you have overlanding gear, AND two people in the truck... you were definitely at the max if anyone wants to say "Oh one truck isn't much....." yeah no.

[@michaelfarrell7471]

Also looking at the max tongue weight on the sticker doesn’t it say 950 LBS

[@KansasSlim64]

The tag said GVWR was 7K, plus the 9500# trailer rating. Shouldn’t the max be 16.5K? And he was 14,580#? He had nearly a ton (1920#) to go. What am I missing???

[@cesarconh895]

I wish you guys lived in Florida, you would change your mind about being outdoors. I work outside in central Florida and I don't see how people think being outdoors is soo great.

[@AB-coyote]

Please put this truck and load on the IKE. Then repeat with the Titan and Titan XD and the rest of your gas 1/2 ton lineup.

[@tyhend88]

Can you do a video adding the RoadMaster Active Suspension to the Trail Boss and do heavy towing again? I'm curious how it would do.

[@leonardrice1500]

Chevys are for working men... Fords are for beginners. Nuff said

[@kyboy5]

I'm a chevy man for life but these new ones look way to wimpy

[@nathanmcdonald610]

Chevys are good for the working mechanic that’s for sure.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

Obviously someone has never owned a Ford.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

@@Zach-ju5vi If your comments directed towards me, all I've ever owned is Fords and they've been fantastic trucks.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

@@nathanmcdonald610 it was directed at the original comment. I've owned more Chevy's than Ford's, Ive done things with my Ford that would probably break a Chevy in half.

[@bummingaround8566]

I'd love to see what a Chevy with the 3.0 liter diesel would get for fuel mileage.

[@bearatts]

Why didn't you back the truck on to the trailer to put the majority of the weight over the axles of the trailer?

[@user-bl4ez3sh5g]

That would be super dangerous. 60% or more must be on front of axels or you get sway and could crash.

[@TheCamaro5]

you never want to do that. to much weight on back of trailer will cause it to sway. also aero would be god aweful towing backwards.

[@GeminiWoods]

Throw that Chevy in the trash and ill take the OBS Ford.

[@adamm6837]

That’s a brick nose

[@samduran5180]

🤦

[@wint_62]

You’re an idiot lol.

[@EngineeringGoneWrong]

I always back trucks on shorter trailers. The 60/40 weight split of even a gas engine truck gives you WAYY too much tongue weight otherwise. Diesel makes it that much worse. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you had 1500lbs of tongue weight considering the above. Not trying to rag on you, just some food for thought next time

[@richardharvey8939]

Ford in natural habitat. Being towed by Chevy or pulled over with hood up. 😆 best friend has same trail boss in white. Great all around performer. I would like to have one with 6.2. My daily is 04 hd2500 with 8.1. I get same 11 mpg towing and empty 😂.

[@mattojeda6551]

Y’all passed me on I-70 near evergreen

[@charlesbeauregard7552]

I tow 16 000lbs with my 2019 trail boss

[@brokeduece1691]

Wow, 11 mpg while towing... I get that on my Tundra unloaded city diving

[@neitzp]

Please consider the following, for it would really help me. Take a midsize truck, set it up a towing test at maxload and give us the stats and your impressions, then increase that load by 500 lbs--not by much, just enough to demonstrate common mistakes when scales are not used--and do the same measurements/impressions. Then tell us how much of a difference you notice in how the trucks perform between what the manufacturer states vs how much each tolerance these midsizers have for weight mistakes (it happens, which one is better as helping you overcome).

[@darrengibson644]

Little Chevy did good at max, but 4" squat? Seems like weight distribution hitch wasn't set up quite right...

[@hellkitty1014]

Remember the Trail Boss does have softer springs, so that may be at play too.

[@classiclarry88]

Flip it around and haul the silverado with the Ford and compare.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

I'm surprised the ford didn't have to pull the Chevy home by the end of the trip lol.

[@darrenrussell3695]

What fantasy world are you living in!?

[@Zach-ju5vi]

@@darrenrussell3695 it's called the backwoods

[@beardlifeman]

Always awesome content

[@efrainsanchez4126]

Been looking on getting one

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I think that a 50$ raffle selling tickets might net more money than an auction. Just an FYI.

[@efrainsanchez4126]

Finally something good to watch

[@antoniotrejo9240]

When are they actually gonna start no pavement needed lol

[@savplays4887]

Look At 9:09 There Was A Rebel Hauling A Car To And That Chevy Looked Good Squattin

[@jasonfalk7696]

It looks like that car is all in front of the axles on the trailer. It must be a Uhaul car transport, those things are horrible. Plus, they don't have an equalizer hitch.

[@savplays4887]

@@jasonfalk7696 Your not Lying Soooo

[@orangecrush1976]

Please do an MPG loop when you are all done. I am very curious what number you come up with after those 35's are mounted.

[@handz87]

So are you over tongue weight as the sticker says 950lbs? I see payload as 1600 but the sticker says max conventional trailer tongue weight of 950.

[@joelesko681]

Haha!... Knew he'd fit a Ford in there somewhere.

[@benjithick1739]

A Ford F-150 would not even feel that weight on the back

[@codywake7905]

Should do a squat test without the load leveling hitch.

[@frankjackson533]

Great review!!

[@rocker6883]

I want a trail boss so bad. Someday...

[@theworldaccordingtochris4370]

14,600lbs, that's ok. A fella I know tows alot and has a 2019 Ford Ranger with a 3.2 diesel that regularly weighs around 14,300lbs combined and sometimes more.

[@Oldsoldiersays]

that 31 year old ford will still be running in 31 years when that 85,000 dollar chevy is rotting in a junkyard after its entire electrical system fails, one after another, starting with blinkers, then the transmission controls, the instrument clusters. The only part of that truck worth anything is the LT engine.

[@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj]

Need to adjust the weight distribution.

[@ericbuchta9765]

I’m sure my 18 gmc 6.2 is just like it and never again will I buy another car truck for the price of a truck. I worked too hard for my money to throw it away on a worthless truck. Got to get a 2500 if you want it to last. But it’s OK if you’re hauling the kids around in your truck and not really using it for a truck then you buy ☝️

[@rik999]

What were the individual axle weights? I bet the rear (truck) axle was well over the 3800 lb GAWR

[@ericbuchta9765]

That truck is meant for hauling a John boat

[@keithbrown9512]

Pretty good for a 1500 off road. Still would rather have the Ram Rebal.

[@leonardrice1500]

Too bad you can't spall

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

I would rether have a reptar

[@rossgreenzweig]

Rebel sucks, Trail Boss is the way to go!

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

@@rossgreenzweig both suck!

[@rossgreenzweig]

@@Blue_Flame_Raptor the stereotype ford guy, nice! Keep it up 🤣

[@Eklectic1]

Typical for any Ford, being on a trailer and having to be towed.

[@58malich]

That 89 Ford got on that trailer under its own power.

[@officialyasir]

It might help us if you tell us the GCWR of the truck

[@killabandit]

Where do you get those anti rattle pins?

[@ps31871]

Lol my 2011 f150 5.0 towing my 2011 mustang/ 6000k lb i get 13 miles mpg lol yeah....

[@jasons9249]

The chevy can do it but how well does it stop with a load?

[@spartanchirho]

May God continue to bless you!

[@David-yy7lb]

5' bed that truck is useless cannot fit a standard size plywood ,2 pallets or a sofa and close the tailgate

[@jasonfalk7696]

Name a half ton truck that has a crew cab and an 8 foot bed?

[@Essexadv]

Did you actually measure the tongue weight? That much squat, the handling issues makes me wonder. Looked like you just pulled that heavy beast on there so it would fit and strapped it down.

[@jeanmantella5953]

that squat was too much. Looked like the back springs should only tow 7k-7.5k, 9.5K seems generous.

[@albrown8890]

Im a Chevy guy, but shouldn't the F350 being doing the towing? 😃😄😅

[@brly4542]

Doesn't seem that bad, hook that trailer on a rebel, you'll be looking at the sky

[@blacktailbowhunter0135]

Swap it around with the ford towing the chevy nexttime

[@budworx1639]

Did y'all swap in that straight axle up front on the f350?

[@gamingnut2118]

F350 4x4s came from the factory with the Dana 60 up front

[@vernonknight9455]

Only Chevy's wear high heals

[@Dankcatvacs]

Dad's Dakota can pull. A 00 suburban so yeah I think you're fine

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

More like trail rookie

[@azteciron5928]

Pretty easy tow honestly I’ve done this or more w my 2011 f150.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

Wow that things built in mexico?

[@wire80op]

You expect this guy to know how to drive a truck with 3 pedals? He gets in and pressed the gas and comments on the creature comforts. Keeping an idi at 2500 to 3k is well beyond his skill.

[@ericbuchta9765]

That’s even with a load leveling hitch oh my god that thing is unsafe and overloaded sorry GM but I don’t think that payload is correct. Please run that same test on a 1997 Silverado Z71 see if they are better built

[@lifestyle5795]

That doesn't look safe at all it's dragging too much. That trailer almost hits the dirt just imagine hitting a bump up and down that trailer may hit and cause an accident.

[@t.j.johnson1697]

There is too much tongue weight on that truck. The trailer is too short for the Ford truck.

[@jeffreyrigged]

how heavy is that trailer then cause that ford shouldnt be over 6k

[@jackcohen3999]

Could the Ford pull the new Chevy on the Trailer?