The 2 things you MUST practice to nail DOUBLES

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01:52 - Do your doubles look like one of these two?…
05:56 - Make your doubles TWICE as easy with the “Free Bounce”
11:27 - Build finger strength to play LOUD, EVEN doubles
16:43 - The FINGER TEMPO: When should you use fingers?
24:46 - BONUS: A step-by-step method for 4-way independence
Mastering a double stroke roll often becomes way too complicated. Today we’re going to simplify it, because there are really just 2 core things you need to practice in order to play relaxed, smooth, fast doubles. You can do this!
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[@masumasumasu]

back when I started my teacher always pressed me to practice the rudiments. I never did so I never really gotten good at the technical part of drumming which demoralized me a lot. I quit a year in or so. Now I bought my self a practice pad and thanks to your video and your technique descriptions im getting better and better and it and it feels great! Thank you so much for rekindleing my love for drums, and more importantly, igniting my passion for wanting to learn the technique!

[@balazsfitz7517]

Congratulations, this is a very thorough, well founded and detailed guide. Cannot wait to put it into practice.

[@ironjuan]

Best doubles lesson I've come across. I've worked on doubles over the last two years and I see here all that I slowly observed and discovered. I'm sure this will help many build it up right from the start.

[@williamsass9434]

Stephen, while you inadvertently covered the wrist involvement of the second stroke (the cheating part) with the extended arm slapping exercise, may I also mention that I have great success in evening out my doubles by accenting the second stroke of each double as an exercise all to itself as well. Does miracles in evening out open rolls. Just sayin'. All the Best & keep up the good lessons.

[@gregdangreaux4641]

As a bass player who always wanted to play drums, your lessons are the greatest. Really clear and not "intimidating , so to speak. I obviously won 't become the new you, but I can learn and have fun, so, thank you sir !

[@fraz2112]

Lol. I’m a drummer that wants to be bbassist. Never happy😂

[@256k_]

absolutely agree! i'm also a bassist that had an increased desire to learn drums and only started this week. how has been your journey so far?

[@malcolmskeins294]

Recently I came across your videos and relearned a lot of info I forgot over the last 60 years! I started playing drums at ten in1962 and stopped in 1990. What I like is your instruction on finger control. I learned this in 7th grade and mastered it by 8th grade I was able to double stroke an open stroke roll almost without any wrist movement. I'm now starting to pick up the sticks again at 70 to help with hand rehab. I hand a funny way of holding my right stick ( I'm left handed) I used my index finger to control the head finger response. When questioned my response was It works for me.

[@256k_]

I have to say, i've been on youtube for the past week looking at all sorts of drumming tutorials and courses both free and also paid options and while i initially discovered your channel early, i didnt feel like it was what i was looking for, but the most I looked around and learned about drumming the more i realized that this is probably the best beginner drumming tutorials on youtube right now. the videos you put out target exactly the points where i feel the most frustrated or lost or confused. being a complete beginner it's hard to even know whether one is doing the things correctly or incorrectly but you put so much detail and visual examples into the specific tips that i feel i can confidently follow and understand when it's correct or not correct. thank you again for the great content!

[@chrisfrate]

I liked and subscribed! You spoke of something I’ve wondered about..you explained it so I understand easily, now I just need to practice. Thank you.

[@CNder77]

Great video, glad I came across it. I had a drum teacher told me never rely on/use rebound, play all wrists. I been drumming for years I can’t roll, could never play doubles well. Can’t wrist everything at speed, I feel these techniques will help in this. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@garycordle5295]

This is good stuff just practice and work and learn from these videos 👍 thanks and happy practicing 😁

[@farhanmaqbool9286]

Excellent lesson, I have now started to work on it. Must for great doubles. Thanks

[@tomasl6675]

great vid, great help! thanks a lot

[@charlesblay5409]

Thank you so much for the lesson is so great and wonderful I wish to put it into practice.

[@pg3536]

The best video on double strokes I had the chance to come across. Thank you very much… 🥁

[@funkybassguy68]

Earned a new subscriber. Very well explained and I will be fixing my double stroke rolls thanks to you. 👍

[@adityatyagi4009]

This video is gold. I think it's important to recognize that as the doubles speed up, a natural contraction of the fingers begins to happen to keep the second note of the double in time. I don't want to use the word "tighten" because you definitely don't want to tighten up the muscles unnecessarily but they definitely need to contract at higher speeds in order to keep things in sync. The wrists and fingers must stay relaxed and not let useless tension creep in.

[@sommie666]

Great lesson! Thanks a bunch!

[@MrSickmo]

Man,your videos helped me so much to get my technics better,Thank you so much :-)

[@Paulswindellsdrummer]

I love all things hand technique! this was a great watch thankyou Steven

[@stickxsi]

Your teachings really great!

[@chelle1440]

thank you..very informative content..

[@Be_Good_Do_Good]

Thank you for the lesson

[@serart41]

Fantastic lesson bud !!

[@maddo7192]

Now I know what to do with my weekend 😎 ... for the next 10 years

[@johnny2shoes90]

Thank you for this ❤️

[@evamalmberg]

Great video!

[@benji523]

This was really helpful, and kudos for the extra exercise at 16:25, I can really feel my weak hand muscles feeling it! Subscribed

[@nutnutbrownie9960]

i just wanna say thank you coz it did help me a lot , ive been wanting to play drums since when i was a kid but didn,t get the chance until now 43 years late lol ,so i just started prolly a month ago but your videos helps me a lot and i just wanna say thanks….

[@robertmendoza530]

Thanks !! New subbed here!! This is perfect. Me and my 12 yr old daughter are learning how to play drums 🥁.

[@oniondidgeridoo9720]

excellent teacher cheers mate

[@rondeangelis7384]

Great approach stephen. Especially timeline of where the transitions occur. Would be great to do a video on slow to faster paradiddles. Where i see the guys at faster tempos looks like seemless 3 strokes. Also wouldn’t be better to use all wrists up to the tempo where the bounce takes over, then eventually transition the fingers then finally throw-catch? Just asking since i still struggle with faster doubles 👍

[@ranjanaluwihare1511]

Stephen is very clever & clear! He’s onit! Thanks dude!

[@kwnorton5834]

Was just working on this yesterday. Knew it wasn’t right, fingers, hands, wrists felt tight. Will practice this and hope for best - thanks!

[@kenbarnes1276]

Very Good! I'm always looking for you tube examples to supplement what I'm teaching,but I'm very careful about what I let my students watch. YOU'RE ON MY RECOMENDED LIST NOW! A proper roll is so important! Thanks.

[@LiorIzhakiDrums]

Thanks bro!🔥

[@jtdg5849]

Oh yeah, the middle school roll. Exactly what I learned in Middle School percussion class and never in 30 years bothered to fix. Funny how being old makes me want to do things right rather than just banging away.

[@rebobd1]

I notice you’re creating the folcrum with your middle finger versus your index finger. Do these principles change at all if the fulcrum is created with thumb and index instead?

[@mattbeauchamp8457]

I hear you! Thank mang

[@rubenojeda86]

hello! greetings from Argentina! I see all your lessons, they are great! Thank you very much! A doubt that arose for me doing doubles is when I must accentuate the first double with ringshoot, it feels like the ring cuts all the rebound and I don't technically know how to continue to execute the next hit ..: S My English is not very good, I hope the question is understood..

[@jimusictv2601]

thank you.💕

[@QuentinLeonetti]

2 things to do to play doubles: 1/ play twice with one stick 2/ play twice with the other stick. You're done! More seriously, cool lesson :)

[@kennedyjohnson-b93]

thanks dude! Lol

[@antkneewolfdrummer]

Hi Stephen. I just wanted to add another exercise for the fingers that i picked up from Jo Jo Meyer. What i do for fingers is isolate every individual finger and play 8ths, 16ths and 8th note triplets. So i play this on each finger without stopping going from finger to finger. It has helped me strengthen my fingers a lot and my finger control has gotten pretty good. I really like your instruction videos. Really informative and easy to understand. Thanks again!

[@jangobango2847]

Yea listen to jojo and actual pros not this amateur

[@kennethsmith8968]

@@jangobango2847 im sure he is better than u

[@JC-xk6gv]

Hi Stephen, I've been watching your video on playing doubles, but I hold my stick in my left hand the traditional way so how do I put into practice what you are teaching . Love to know your thoughts. Thanks.

[@VojtechRozsival]

Noticed you do similar "mistake" with the basic stroke. Your right hand starts higher. the wrist movement of the left hand is significantly smaller (but maybe it is just the camera). I just noticed as I am relearning usage of the wrist, I used to use elbow rather than wrist and then just fingers for the rebound control, and figured out my right wrist makes much bigger move, so I am trying to focus on that. Anyway thanks for this lesson, as usual, very useful and easy to understand.

[@richardohenry354]

Good morning Stephen do you have time to do one on one drum lesson over the phone?

[@pauloabreu1196]

Question.... I have arthritis in my hands and use something with a ring to allow me to rest my hands... Is there anything I can do to help releave the pain so I can stop using the helper.

[@vincekhoo3278]

Thanks Steven for this video. I've just revisiting drumming after almost 20 years not playing (was playing casually as a beginner for my churst for 2-3 years when I was in University), and I'm sorta getting the hang of holding the stick losely. My main issue and question is, how do I keep it from moving or slipping? I find that when i was moving losely it tends to slip and my hand will move up the stick getting closer to the tip. If i hold it a bit tightly to prevent on slipping it would lose a bit of the loseness. Do you have a tip for how to play lose and fast without your hands slipping? Thanks again for all the awesome videos and pdfs!

[@seanf1ynn]

Is this a bit like the drop grab technique? Pulling the second note to make it louder?

[@drewjonespdx]

How do you do those fast singles?

[@wired8486]

What's the practice pad you're using? Thanks.

[@ronjudd3477]

How do u stop the stick from sliding thru yor fingers wen getting faster..?

[@mildredsanchez8959]

I really like your practice pad. How is it called?

[@krusher74]

At the start when going very slow you are doing a double bounce and then a catch stop with the fingers, once you get speeded up isnt a double a single wrist started bouce and then the second is an upstroke with finger aid?

[@cliffsrandomness15]

Can anyone tell me what this snare mute pad he’s using? The mute pad I have has no bounce.

[@johndeangelo4465]

How do I get this guide?

[@joerossi7489]

How can I get the PDF?

[@Zelmark]

I want the PDF guide but I don't know what that subscription is about.

[@Sent2MariaSongs]

How do I get the practice courses for guys who are limited on time 🤔

[@johncostigan6160]

Very encouraging lesson! Somewhere I heard you can practice the upside-down wrist slap while watching TV. You didn't hear this from me...

[@fredtrax4574]

..."while watching tv"...what a strange idea. Life, and drums, are so much better without tv.

[@Nmdixon-cu7vm]

@@fredtrax4574 that’s irrelevant while doing a basic physical exercise. You can multitask an exercise that doesn’t require undivided attention.

[@fredtrax4574]

@@Nmdixon-cu7vm It's not a question of multitask...tv programs make you stupid.

[@EixtremeDrummer]

Thanks Stephen, are these lessons applicable for a guy of 62 who played with wrong principles for 45 years?

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

He has a great doubles vid about 'using physics'. Transformed mine.

[@EixtremeDrummer]

@@domenicv7962 🤣🤣🤣 I only want to improve my sound by developing my technique, e.g. by learning doubles, etc. You know, 45 years sounding the same is quite enough time!

[@EixtremeDrummer]

@@domenicv7962 thanks a lot for your explanations!

[@rasilaqueen2047]

I loved this. Couldn't figure out how to download the practice guide

[@rasilaqueen2047]

OK found it. Wasn't showing on my phone, but was on computer

[@kanal7944]

Thanks Stephen. I do agree. Observed it like you. What‘d you observed with your feets? My best

[@unclejoshafat]

Do I have it correct? French Grip, you are using a pointer finger fulcrum, but American grip you are using a middle finger fulcrum.

[@sluggdiddyyddidgguls]

I am not a drummer who has been playing drums for years on my own songs (talking like over a decade) and I haven't really improved much after the first year and I think its very likely because I never even considered practicing, nor did doubles ever begin to enter my vocabulary. Non-drummers are fooled into thinking I can play decently but the second a drummer hears my recordings I think they can tell I have no clue what I am doing.. I hoping I can use this to finally practice doubles and start improving... but almost everytime I try to work on something new that I stink at.. i feel like i get worse.

[@stephlevi]

Hey Stephen! I can’t get my left stick to bounce vertically when I speed up my rolls. My fingers are strong. And I’m working with Beatnik pad for timing and Benny Greb’s Back Click. Is it just a matter of building muscle? Anyone feel free to chime in! Thanks for your videos.

[@bennycohen9135]

I have discovered that my whole left hand is very tight and there are spots with pain. For the last 5 months i have been working on releasing all the tention by stretching to the point of pain and only then eveything gets loose and the stick bounces the way it should. What probaby happens also when you speed up is that because the grip is not good to beging with the flaws show when you speed up. So maybe slow down and see where the stick wants to go and do micro changes to your finger positioning till you get it right. If you find it painful to hold the stick right and make it bounce right you also have tention if no pain at all then its just a matter of teaching the fingers a new position and by that adapting new muscle memory. Good luck

[@stephlevi]

@@bennycohen9135 Thanks for sharing your story! I was try that.

[@ruhurtrubleeding]

Thomas Lang has the best doubles out and he uses all wrist

[@robinbhairam7508]

Useful video but please don’t forget some of us play traditional grip, so exercises/suggestions would be helpful

[@ashihtaka]

Brand new drummer here, how does his snare sound like that? Mine sounds like those in a marching band, no way I can tune it to sound like Stephens

[@planetchang]

He has a practice pad sitting on the drum which deadens the sound.

[@saulmighty]

My best investment: get a practice pad you can use when you're watching tv or movies! You will be entertained AND will have improved your control of the stick.

[@bigcoffinhunter5500]

Hey Stephen, I have a question about holding sticks during French Grip. I was always under the impression that you're not suppose to hold the stick like your thumb and forefinger are rolling a small ball back and forth. In this tutorial it looks like thats exactly what you are doing (14:00). Is that close to what you are doing, or am I misunderstanding? I always feel like the stick is going to fly out of my hand. Maybe I should just get your guide.

[@jangobango2847]

His technique is trash and this is terrible information

[@bigcoffinhunter5500]

@@jangobango2847 okay Jango, but that doesn’t answer my question. Not interested in your drama.

[@bigcoffinhunter5500]

@@domenicv7962 The original question I asked was never answered. I'm interested in knowing what motion Stephen is using between his fingers. Jango shared his opinion, which is fine, but my question wasn't answered.

[@mcovey2020]

Main thing is don’t grip with only the finger tip on your pointer finger, the pinch point should be at the first crease/joint on your pointer finger. It may still feel insecure at first but with practicing and conditioning that should start to minimize. The freedoms afforded to the butt of the stick this way is where we generate dexterity and power…it doesn’t come from the pinch point itself. The centrifugal action actually helps keep the stick in place more than the pinch

[@bigcoffinhunter5500]

@@mcovey2020 Very intersting stuff, thanks Matt. I didn't know that about the butt of the stick, but I do already use my first crease. This is something I will have to watch slowly to truly understand your meaning.

[@HarryJoiner]

5:56 - money

[@extramedium3561]

OMG OMG OMG. Thank you so much for this video, and well, really all of them. This helped me to figure out where my doubles were going wrong, and how to fix them. Because of the problem i was having (grip/hand technique), i spent a full week focusing on how im gripping, and striking the pad. Now i am getting some great sounding doubles and I have also since noticed how much more loose and natural being on the kit feels. Seriously, thank you!

[@bossko4145]

30 min video that really is a 30sec😅 tip great job Good advice

[@laridrums7777]

👍

[@kreatos10]

Man I have to say the following ... hopefully it comes out constructive hehe : Ill say your accent (speech) is pretty specific and it sort off sound like you don't pronounce words fully. Add bunch of absorbing panels in your rec room for obvious reasons .. plus the distance from your mic and or position perhaps .... well all that to say Mate I have a hard time following you sometimes!! Its a damn shame because your teaching skills / knowledge is very good!! Id watch a lot more of your videos if that wouldn't be an issue. Now in case i failed to phrase this right; Its nothing terrible and yes i am picky and i am aware of it hehe! That said, I feel like the potential amount of time you > potential new subs is something to think of. Anyways thanks for what you do and how down to earth you approach teaching. Actually on topic: I find myself often practicing the *** out of my doubles ever since i heard back than my university percussion teacher make rolls at bassically any speed that could be usable musically but the catch his you could not hear the hand distinction. Ive never seen it done that flawlessly outside of this one person. so yeah I practice my doubles and i have this sort of reference of how it could be ... and i guess i ocd over it for hours at a time hehe! them practice pads sessions O-o For the reccord the teacher practiced it for like well over 40 years almost daily and he was particularly picky about having best technique possible so he probably spent half his life worth in time to achieve it .... Mad respect to him.

[@SimonB.]

My snare doesnt even have a reboud 😅I should tune it better

[@thejustinlarsen]

Thank you for the videos! The only thing is that it takes you forever to get to the material. There is too much extemporaneous talking.

[@michaelspinato2015]

I like the slow bounce exercise but I find the stick bouncing crooked sometimes when I let it free bounce. Is there a way to correct that?

[@ironjuan]

Hi Michael. That's normal. You will get to control that as you practice that exercise more. It is all about building good stick balance while keeping the loose grip. Just keep working on it and don't fall into pinching or getting tight. Pay attention to the direction of the stick as you throw it, and keeping it seated on the balance point. It probably crooks because it looses contact at the bounce and it went down a bit sideways. It is not one thing or the other though. You are doing the exercise thar will help you fix it, just give it time and regular practice.

[@michaelspinato2015]

@@ironjuan Thank you! I thought that I was doing something wrong because I couldn't hold the stick that loosely without it going all over the place.

[@guyharding8679]

👍😎😍🎶

[@DarrenMcGill442]

Some holey grail stuff right here.

[@mitchmaule6517]

Your fingers leave the stick waaaaaaay too much man

[@vmirac-5270]

ILOVEPAPAHARVEY

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

So, that finger thing "isn't going to help anyone"? Go say that to Nils Fjellström. Are you even on same level?

[@victorortega9845]

I can do all doubles on Conga Drums, with my hands, real fast. We Conga Players do everything that a Drummer does.

[@fredtrax4574]

??? and what are you doing with your feet? Just standing? So simple!

[@victorortega9845]

I played the Cowbell with my feet, doing the 2/3 Cuban Clave.

[@fredtrax4574]

​@@victorortega9845 Only the 2/3 cuban clave? A drummer play much more different things with his feet. There is no comparison between a drummer and a conga player.

[@victorortega9845]

@@fredtrax4574 I'm not trying to have an argument with you,; What I'm saying is that certain patterns that Drummers do, we Conga Players can do the same. Different drums, different ways of playing. In Latin Jazz, there's a different way of playing Congas, than Playing for example: What is called: SALSA. Anyway: Happy Holidays 2 you, and, your family.

[@fredtrax4574]

@@victorortega9845 WE drummers do everything a conga player does... So what? ;-)

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[@seanhale6765]

Your sound quality in the second note is bad man.

[@plets1172]

ANNOYING background music!!!!

[@rajamathews1551]

Too much of talking and very little practical made the lesson BORING.

[@edgargunnels377]

Get to the point.