The 2021 Kia K5 GT-Line Has Been Optimized For American Families

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The #KiaOptima was one of the most stylish midsize sedans about a decade ago. Unfortunately, the latest Optima was looking a little vanilla next to newer rivals. Enter the all-new 2021 #KiaK5 in both #K5GTLine and #K5 EX. Riding on a completely new platform, this sleek new sedan has baby #KiaStinger in the design and the upcoming #K5GT should put the rest of the midsize family cars on notice.

[@theredline]

Welcome to part 2 of our 2021 Kia K5 review! For those of you who missed part 1, click here to go back and watch that first, then come back to this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ6mqqF4nNeMrJY

[@gtiguy9629]

Quad exhaust for under 300hp?

[@jasonknowledge8824]

There should be a K5 Optima trim level to kind of help make the connection easier for buyers

[@Sciophobia1]

@@gtiguy9629 So? Has a lot more horsepower than a GTI. Why would a quad exhaust be a bad thing for a car with 300 hp? Just for reference an Audi A6 has 248 hp, Golf R has 288 HP and a quad exhaust, some C class models have 255, and the S3 288 HP. If those sport a quad exhaust I doubt anyone would be questioning it.

[@Sciophobia1]

You should have mentioned the front legroom. The K5 and Sonata have the largest legroom figures in the class and have held that honour for years. It's an important factor when buying a midsize sedan. Great review, as always!

[@rafars2246]

Optimized? Have you seen the korean models...?

[@KennyPang]

I saw one today in the wild. Much better than photo or video. Well done Kia!

[@mattticknor9825]

Vid /pics don’t do it justice

[@991carreras3]

I saw one today and it looked must ok. That wrap around stainless strip in the back is horrible looking.

[@GumiNightPower]

Saw one in gray a few days ago in the parking lot, and....Ngl, it stands out quite a bit.

[@bamlook2640]

I like it I see one today

[@TheTechnicalRecruiter]

Bought this same Blue Sapphire EX without the EX package. 29,300 total. Loving it!

[@aye3678]

Nice dude!! The car looks so darn good! Good choice getting it in Blue 👌

[@dillonh321]

@Chad bad Kia is generally reliable. But this new model worries me because they only have turbo di engines with dct transmissions.

[@mrsfarzana4703]

Great car indeed! I'm also planning to buy one...

[@zakm4012]

Was going to buy it but I realized I get a better deal with the 2020 sonata so I went with that instead in the limited trim

[@cogtager]

@Chad bad Toyota’s new with 8 speeds tho 🤷🏽‍♂️ so you were at a double edge sword my sir 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@priyeshpatel7585]

I saw what you did there lol... OPTIMIZED (new k5= optima). Great video as always!

[@ThinkBeFree99]

Finally saw one in person at a dealer the other night. It looked damn nice! My friend and i were very impressed. Then a week later saw a white one at night from a distance with he LEDs drove down my street. Thought "damn that looks nice" then went about my business as it passed my house I realized it was the K5 and thinking wow it looks upscale, sporty and high tech.

[@gamingx5042]

The K5 GT has the best engine, prevents carbon build up while having optimal performance and fuel efficiency by implementing the multi port injection and GDI combination.

[@tails300]

Something they should’ve done years ago, when they saw the problem.

[@gamingx5042]

Definitely should have been done back in 2011 to remedy the millions of recalls. Extra maintenance is the key. That's why people say money pits, like all direct injection engines. Severe driving conditions section on the owners manual is a decent place to start, on how often maintenance on GDI engines need; they need extra care, extra expenses, and attention.

[@tails300]

Gaming X Toyota was smart they saw this 10 years ago with their IS250 engine and started slowly implementing it into all of there Lexus and Toyota models. Now you can find it in the LandCruiser all the way down to the Corolla.

[@tay9931]

How good is the 1.6T that’s what we have?

[@tim3172]

@@gamingx5042 Carbon buildup had/has zero to do with the recalls. The recalls were due to metal shavings left in the engine after the milling process.

[@Xemnas103]

I hope the full GT has all the features that they left out of the USA version

[@stephenhendricks103]

@Chad bad Though a few of the Korean features are not available at all on the North American version, almost all are included in separate option packages at each trim level. Check out the KIA "Build and Price" website.

[@murraywise8987]

You are terrific, love your reviews, loaded with information and facts. Keep them coming!

[@raymahannah4336]

Great review! I'm also looking forward to your impression of the GT trim, as well as the Hyundai Elantra N coming soon! Thank you! 👍

[@sully7498]

I was watching the video and noticed that I recognized the background. I live 5 minutes from where you tested this! Lol that's pretty cool

[@evanc8919]

These cars look great on video, and twice as good in person. There are certain lines that just can’t notice or see on video. I was very surprised how much better they look up close and personal. They also seem larger in person. Maybe it’s just me though.

[@suddym4321]

I was waiting for this review for long time

[@kerryh2096]

so tempting!! i love the styling it’ll age well. i live in nyc but so tempted to lease the LxS or GT with that 2.5 turbo i need power lol

[@elvinalvarez4750]

Just bought the K5 GT wolf gray with red interior seats. I’m in love with the car. People look twice at the car thinking it’s a luxury mercedes or lexus.

[@tonemack2981]

I love that Kia and Hyundai are turning up on the midsize sedan segment showing that they are not giving up. Me personally I'm waiting for the GT I'm just not a fan of the rear facia of the GT and GT line. I wish the GT had the same rear facia as the EX trim just keep the quad tip exhaust.

[@foxalpha8744]

I’m really considering switching from VW to either KIA or Hyundai, thanks for the vid. Love your reviews

[@kibskibs498]

For the sake of your repair/maintenance costs, please do so. My mechanic wanted me to keep my Ford and VW because they were “better”. Literally just wanted to come into the shop more it turns out 😂

[@jaiizwaii89]

I’m in the same situation. I have a leases 2019 Passat rline. I want a suv though.

[@aye3678]

Both are great. Personally this new Kia just looks too good to pass on.

[@johnfrantz5885]

My sister went from Honda to Kia, she doesn’t miss the Honda at all.

[@wethenorth1083]

I have a Hyundai Elantra GT and a Kia Sorento. The Hyundai has 400k kilometers on it. I've only done regular maintenance to it. Same thing with the Kia with 100k kilometers on it. Go for the test drive you won't regret it.

[@EricFortuneJr.]

Kia has been using the “K” in other markets for decades now, particularly Korea. What we know as the K900 was originally going to be labeled K9, but they relabeled that model since they didn’t want North American buyers to associate that name with dogs. I like the fact that they didn’t use much chrome on the front end. The blacked out grill looks good.

[@AirLancer]

Should've gone with KX, for K-10.

[@user-op7vy5ny4r]

@@AirLancer KX is for Kia SUVs in Chinese market.

[@mattticknor9825]

Just ordered Wolf Grey GT line premium pkg Can’t wait 😊

[@cymonophori9998]

Love your reviews man! Always look forward to them. Patiently waiting for the GT review when it comes

[@patrickptmonk8673]

Im looking at the 2021 Santa fe. Looks sleek and full of tech. And yes, the limited trim of the sonata has rain sensing wipers

[@nukedogger86]

Both trims have their perks, the EX is more 'luxury' and ever so slightly subdued on the outside. Gt-Line is more that sporty look. I got the latter due to awd. I'm not mad I couldn't get an EX, I do like the Gt-Line styling. Though that red is pretty (and I'm not a red person) I got the blue... I get compliments all the time on how pretty it is. People are genuinely shocked when they discover its a Kia. And further shocked that my awd Gt-Line with the premium package was a tickle under $31k. To me its fully f-ing loaded. Only thing I honestly think it misses is cooled seats. Wide open the consensus is its nearly as quick as my last car, 2.0 awd Fusion. I get 4-5 more mpg's too. Around town it feels more snappy/peppy than the Fusion was. My first two tanks are shaping up at 32 mpg commuting.

[@pie189]

Honestly I like both the k5 and sonata, I'm glad cars are getting bold and interesting again

[@SirT80]

Interesting that blind spot monitoring isn’t standard. I really love Kia’s drive wise suite on my 2019 Optima. I’m sure it’s even better in the K5! Great review!

[@stephenhendricks103]

Blind Spot collision avoidance (enhanced blind spot monitoring) is standard on all but the lowest trim level.

[@SirT80]

Stephen Hendricks I see, thank you!

[@andrewperbegloo6219]

I love this review! its funny tho, in Canada, the GT-Line has the most features than the EX tho. The GT-Line gets the 10.25 screen and premium feel

[@Sciophobia1]

You should have mentioned the front legroom, since that is the most important aspect for a lot of buyers. The K5 and Sonata have the most front legroom in the class.

[@gehadmahmoud4823]

The K5 name has been around for quite some time. The Optima has always been the K5 in the Korean market. Not sure if there are any other markets that had the same, but definitely has been the case in Korea.

[@reinemann123]

Great video as always! Im trying to decide between the kia k5 ex and the mazda 6 reserve. Any suggestions?

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

Buy both!!!

[@okemonaoke5960]

I find it interesting that your tester does not offer rain sensing wipers. Here in Canada, all but the base LX trim offers it. Plus 12.3 inch TFT Instrument Cluster, HUD, Auto power folding exterior mirrors, heated windshield and heated washer nozzles are blessedly offered in Canada. I suspect the GT trim with its 290 horses and 311 Ib .ft at 1650 RPM will cannibalize sales from the Stinger, it's almost $10000 price differential (compared to the GT Ltd Stinger) for a very feature rich package (the Stinger has, to its credit, 75 more horses, LSD and fancy Nappa Quilted seats).

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

Great review of a great car!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@zackeryparkhurst8455]

bought the Red GT Line and i love it! never thought i would get a Kia but i did 😁

[@johnfranklin5277]

I bought a new K5 GT LINE with premium package in passion red, 3 weeks ago. Great car, good pep, and a great freeway cruiser. Already 6 people have told me they like my car. So do I.

[@releM15]

So you made a two part video for your favorite vehicle brand(Kia and Hyundai) same thing. They must be paying you well after all. Congratulations.

[@sdk1991zzang]

1:56 But those ARE the reflector style headlights lol.

[@lion3014]

The front looks like a 05 Mitsubishi galant vr4 or what a galant would look like today i like it they are moving up n very fast

[@kevmclane]

So CarPlay is actually widescreen on the bigger 10.25-inch touchscreen! Everywhere else I’ve seen online it has been cut off with another window to the side. That’s great to know!

[@theredline]

You can go into the settings and change that to show a split screen or wide screen. Kia and Hyundai give you a choice.

[@some_car_guy]

Old optima platform didn’t compare to the competitors? I gap accords left and right on my 2013 2.4

[@isaac198428]

KIA/Hyundai are way better now. Only cars with 10 yr/100k miles warranty. Even Honda, Toyota or Nissan can't match that guarantee. Awesome style, good gas mileage, affordable and cheap to maintain. This a winner as usual.

[@bitkahuna]

Wish it had rain sensing wipers available. And do this or sonata have power folding mirrors?

[@sdo7875]

I think rain sensor wipers are more of an annoyance than useful. The ones on my car go on a full speed when it just sprinkles a little bit, rather just have complete control

[@Sciophobia1]

@@sdo7875 yeah was about to say the same thing. The sensing wipers on my c300 are always off for how annoying they area. And to op, the K5 does have power folding mirrors as all Kia products do.

[@dakkon74]

Is the Ex w/ the "Active sound design" package quieter than the GT-Line?

[@stephenhendricks103]

A number of comments here about the "de-contenting" (cost cutting) of the North American K5 vs the Korean version. Some comments. It's not unusual for a manufacturer to offer a better equipped model in their home market where they have a "home field" advantage in terms of sales and less competition from rival brands. For example, GTI owners (of which I'm one) have long complained that the US version of VW's iconic hatch have fewer features and options than consumers in Europe receive. What they don't object to is that a top trim fully loaded Autobahn version of a GTI in the US has an MSRP well under $40,000 while an Autobahn GTI in Europe has an MSRP well over $50,000 (at current exchange rates.) When a manufacturer specs a vehicle for a particular national market they take into account production costs that may well differ from one country to another. (The K5 sold in Korea is produced there. The North American K5 is built in Georgia.) But even more important is the price point established by rival vehicles. The North American K5 must compete against the Accord, Camry, and Altima. Sales of just those three vehicles were nearly 500,000 in the US in 2019. In Korea sales of all models of all Japanese brands amounted to about 36,000 vehicles. Even European luxury brands far outsell mainstream Japanese brands in Korea. Thus, KIA (and Hyundai) offer vehicles in Korea that are budget alternatives to European luxury brands. In North America, on the other hand, the far more important competition comes from mainstream Japanese vehicles. And despite KIA's vastly improved reputation in terms of quality and overall appeal it's still important for the brand to offer vehicles with a "value proposition" equal to or better than their Japanese rivals. A fully loaded top trim Camry V6 XSE has an MSRP (with delivery) of $38,915 and a fully loaded Accord 2.0L turbo Touring models has an MSRP of $37,481 (according to the "build and price" websites for each model.) The base price (MSRP) of the forthcoming K5 GT is far less, $31,455 with the same 2.5L tubo engine as the base Genesis G80 and an 8 speed dual clutch transmission. However, it lacks a number of features offered on the on a fully loaded Camry or Accord. For an appropriate comparison a $4000 GT1 option package with a boatload of features can be added. It includes LED headlights, ventilated front row seats, a 10-way power adjustable passenger seat, a leather wrapped steering wheel and gear shift, a 10.25 infotainment screen, embedded navigation, voice recognition, bluetooth wireless and multi-device audio streaming support, Sirius XM, a 12 speaker Bose Audio system, a navigation based smart cruise control, lane keeping assist, "safe exit" assist, and parking distance and collision avoidance assist. At $4K it's a hefty option package but the resulting MSRP of $35,455 is still significantly less than either the Accord ($2K) or the Camry ($3.5K) I'm not sure how close it comes in terms of features to the Korean version of K5 but it largely matches the features and options of the Camry and Accord. And those are the comparisons that matter to KIA and their dealers. It's worth noting, by the way, that lower trims of the K5 also include option packages that significantly increase both the features and the price of those models. Even recognizing that MSRP's are not necessarily the best guide to real world transaction prices, it's worth examining KIA's "build and price" website in detail to understand what is and what is not included at each trim level and the option packages available.

[@johnfranklin5277]

Excellent, I couldn't have said it better.

[@noneofyourbuisness7]

I'm surprised the EX even with a tech package doesn't come with an auto dimming rear view mirror. Must be a dealer add on.

[@MD-ln9pm]

Do you know if the ex premium package is available in Canada

[@Orange-yp9bl]

A black edition black wheels black/dark chrome black interior ... would be great ...

[@Nestle245]

Nightfall package..they got it on the Telluride.

[@pbentsonable]

GT-Line is just an appearance package. And legroom is the same as rivals. Kia/Hyundai just have longer front seat tracks so majority of legroom on paper is in the front.

[@mechaet33]

Good looking car. It kinda looks like a modern 8th gen Mitsubishi Galant to me.

[@k9keo]

California front license plate requirement will block that sensor. They should of put it higher. Otherwise front plates will have to be installed on the sides.

[@bmohandas]

Would you recommend this over accord ?

[@tapper701]

Prefer Optima name, but K5 will be more accepted as time goes on. However, the K900 in Korera is K9. Name changed in USA as name implies something else - woof, woof ... Design of exterior is two thumbs up, interior could use some tweaks to more match exterior. Slainte' ! Cheers !

[@andreyivanov9275]

sport back would be practical

[@EcAty100]

Why GM , FORD , or CHRYSLER can not do what KIA's doing?

[@sprague49]

Because Kia's parent company, Hyundai Heavy Industries has more money than God.

[@Ravaniscool]

It's the unions as well demanding more money. These Koreans have American manufacturers beat.

[@trent7080]

The ungrateful UAW workers, there always wanting more money.

[@bh2155]

Because the domestic auto makers are greedy. They want to make a cheaply built SUV and just because of the size of those vehicles they want to charge 50k for something that cost them 15k to build. It's American greed that caused them to stop making cars.

[@hom2fu]

Trump's favor word 'disgrace' manufacture and UAW

[@biglee13m]

Most of mid sedans never reach 5k RPM. Rare goes over 4k. Usually stays below 3k.

[@AustinFerguson]

as long as the rename the Forte/Cadenza the line up would make sense. K3, K5, K7, K9. (Forte, Optima, Cadenza, K900).

[@tapper701]

Have to be careful with model names, would anyone really want an FU ... just sayin' . . .

[@paulyoum6321]

This is the first video I've seen of Sofyan where it looks like he died a little when doing the drive test lol... But another solid review of the market this car is targeting

[@johnfranklin5277]

Oh brother....he did no such thing. Your just a kia hater.

[@SBohemian]

Can you Please mention in your video that whether you are Sponsored by KIa, Hyundai etc or not?

[@82mattlopez]

If you check KZbin, all the car reviewers are getting these to review.

[@davevolz6138]

Lotsa weight for 180 hp. Can you imagine if Toyota came out with that power to weight ratio. People will be screaming!

[@tails300]

I don’t like small turbocharged engines in midsized sedans and crossovers, they wear out faster. Especially GDI only turbos.

[@davevolz6138]

The people, not the motor! Lol

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@tails300 it has a 10 year 100.000 mile warranty. They obviously trust it. Driven NORMALLY, Not floored from every start, for the most part with 4000 mile oil changes, it will probably go well past that.

[@arronwhitlock958]

Have to see the k5 hybrid vs the sonata hybrid. Yes the new k5 looks good just like the sonata but why did they make them less hp then honda or Toyota and the mpg isnt that much better. I dislike how its give and take when it comes to cars.

[@Laptops1781]

Only thing I really don't like is that grill under the head lights

[@ATG3192]

As much as I want this car, I honestly think that not even offering the GT trim DCT as an option for the GT-Line was a huge missed opportunity.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Some will be disappointed that AWD will not be available on the K5 GT. But it's not a surprising decision and it's the same pattern followed by Toyota and Nissan in the "performance" versions of the Camry and Altima. Toyota says fewer than 5% of Camrys are sold with the V6 engine. Even if offering AWD increased the sales of those models by 10%, a very, very optimistic estimate, it would amount to fewer than 1700 vehicles per year (based on 2019 sales) and probably far less given the current economic climate and pandemic impacts. Though models like the TRD and other V6 model Camrys and the Nissan Altima SR VC-turbo are popular with KZbin fan boys they don't sell well and adding AWD won't help much if at all. In the case of the K5 GT, there's another especially compelling reason not to offer AWD on the model. Based on the minimum $2100 premium KIA charges for AWD on the K5, adding it to the GT model would raise the MSRP of a fully loaded version to $35,455 to $37,555 making its MSRP a few dollars more than a top trim Accord 2.0L Touring model. ($37,481). Even though the Accord doesn't offer AWD KIA would be hesitant to price their midsize sedan more than an Accord under any circumstances.

[@silentrefusal9911]

Where is the all new 2020/21 Kia Cadenza review??

[@orangemarley5086]

Can you shoot in 4K please? I love your videos

[@raymcarthur3870]

No!

[@theredline]

Yes; we are planning to upgrade our camera equipment by the end of this summer.

[@AccuCentral]

I personally like the new Sonata better. Yes, the style is polarizing and arguably not as attractive as K5 but it is loaded with more features: Smart Park, digital key, digital instrument cluster, 360 camera, blind spot cameras, touch button gear selector. I am upset that Kia did not bring the Korean spec K5 to the USA. Koren spec has all of the tech features I mentioned except it has a dial knob shift selector instead of touch button.

[@stephenhendricks103]

The reason KIA has retired the Optima moniker in North America is fairly straightforward. The K5 designation is not new. It has been applied to KIA's midsize sedan in Korea for the last 15 years. There it is part of KIA's overall naming practice for most of their sedans including the K3 (Forte in North America), K7 (Cadenza), and K9 (K900). The K9 name would probably be used in North America if it didn't evoke images of their prestige sedan as a "dog." The "Optima" designation was also introduced in North America in 2005, the same year as K5 was adopted in Korea. That was in the days when the KIA brand was seen in North America as a cheaper knockoff of a Japanese brand. So KIA apparently believed a catchy moniker without as strong a link to a Korean model was an advantage for the "Optima." As KIA's overall brand recognition and reputation for quality has improved in recent years however, there is no longer a need to separate the Optima from KIA's corporate naming convention. In fact, KIA apparently believes there is a marketing advantage in adopting a name used internationally as it attempts to compete more directly with the Camry, Accord, and Altima with a significantly redesigned midsize sedan. After all, while the Optima nameplate has been used in the US for 15 years, it's not as if it has significant cache in the marketplace. If the K5 is a success, I suspect the Cadenza and the Forte may be renamed in forthcoming generations.

[@jimkok1957]

What about past fire risk? Engine catches on fire...

[@eden20111]

I just don't like the yellow daytime LEDs. Is there any way to change that

[@mstfici2685]

No

[@sarabeth8050]

Actually, the K5 was optimized for customers in Asia where sedans reign supreme. They don't expect to sell very many in the US but ship them over anyway because it expands their market a bit. In fact, this was always called the K5 in Korea so they just gave up on designing a sedan with the US in mind at all.

[@ivandoneshefsky4762]

K5 is built in Georgia, US plant with Sorrento and Telluride.

[@BlueBox777]

4:52 Damn it with the fake exhaust crap!

[@conceptcs]

Love amber running lights.

[@SneakyBinHidden]

The rear end has a Camry/Charger rear end style for me lol

[@Warrior11117]

Do you know why Korean cars are hot nowadays? They spend money where it counts. Not just superficial areas like interior design with cheap materials and horsepower and whatnot... profit margin on their cars are very low compared to other car makers. Toyota was the most profitable car company in 2019.

[@unjaded2]

LOOKS 10 DANCE 1! AGAIN SPORT MODE ON 195HP THATS HYSTERICAL.

[@johnfranklin5277]

You got your hp number wrong lol.

[@saadtheman1]

Tbh i would take the sonata over this but k5 design is really nice

[@ericuh14]

In China and Korea, Optima always called K5

[@MikeSinger19]

How is the cabin noise?

[@taylorbee4010]

I work as a Kia dealership has a lot Porter and honestly the GT lines everything the GT has minus the actual GT engine. It's cool looking but it's kind of disappointing.

[@bitkahuna]

"I only have this car literally for not long" uh, what? Lol

[@gage-uo9pl]

Gonna have to report this beat run to the dealership 😂😂

[@TalismanPHX]

That coarse engine note and the torque steer being corralled by the hyperactive traction control are annoying. Engine tuning isn't Kia's "forte".. 😉😆

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

It's pretty amazing how strong this engine is for a 1.6 litre. I drive a niro and am extremely impressed.

[@jond8013]

I thought they were changing their logo this year? Great car though

[@mikemayer429]

Changing logo?

[@jond8013]

Mike Mayer updating

[@jacobrael9872]

The new logo should debut on the new cadenza or k7 in korea later this year

[@goregeegaming]

so in winter time only one exhaust will have smoke coming out lol wow

[@johnfranklin5277]

Smoke?? Lol. It condensation from the cold.

[@Vintagegrape]

K5 is the Home Market Name...no Optima in Korea So its a WORLD CAR now!

[@woosungx01]

Redline has not done the homework and should have done more research on the review 0:50, the original Kia Optima has discontinued when Kia launched K5 back in 2011 (Optima in US) but Kia kept the name Optima in U.S market instead of changing to K5 but the real name of Optima from 2011, entirely new model designed by Peter Schreyer, was actually K5 so Kia finally applied correct name to Optima in U.S market.

[@matthewhawk6031]

The shifter is hideous. The rest of the interior looks great! The shifter in my 2015 optima hybrid looks way better

[@Bunchmanz]

Thought I've seen that shifter design somewhere... uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171209/d2f63fc09c3c154fdc9f25f7768d202b.jpg

[@matthewhawk6031]

Daniel Bunch 😂

[@georgesarmiento17]

Not sure if in America that’s our only option, but if you look at other K5 on google, it has the turn knob as a shifter. (Like a Ford Fusion for example)

[@bahrahme]

I wonder how 2.5 turbo w awd drives...

[@gehadmahmoud4823]

2.5 will not offer awd

[@bahrahme]

Yeah sucks :(

[@lordtyranus08]

I wish Kia would have adopted the features from the Korean K5, it would have bring it on par with the Sonata. I also prefer the white DRLs from the Korean version, not a fan of the amber DRLs

[@CalvinHikes]

I will live my whole life and never ever think that alpha numerical car names are a good idea.

[@VaunShiz]

I'd hope it had more leg room than a sentra or civic , it's a class above them 😂😂😂

[@anthonybailey7913]

Just to confirm is the 180hp and 195ft-lbs rating on 87 octane...and you need 93 octane to get those numbers? Or can you get more than 180hp if you use 93 octane?

[@anthonybailey7913]

Daniel Hernandez good point as my 2013 Sonata 2.0t is rated for 274hp on 87 octane...and by using 93 octane Hyundai engineers confirmed the ECU advances ignition timing which is good for about 10 more HP...I bet this 1.6t could be made to be decently peppy with a good tune

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@anthonybailey7913 its definitely quicker with premium, thats all I run in mine. ANY MODS to the power train VOIDS THE MANUFACTURER WARRANTY.

[@tonybailey89]

@@johnfranklin5277 nah that's NOT TRUE lol, I got a full warranty engine replacement on my 2013 Sonata 2.0t with an intake, BOV, blue silicone intercooler piping, a downpipe off the turbo, midpipe, and a custom fabricated cat back exhaust when the engine went out lol.. 😅

[@wallybeegone]

I’m really excited for this model. The base engine does sound a little tired so I’d love to hear the upgraded turbo.

[@82mattlopez]

New base is a lot better than the old 2.4.

[@jbshp2011]

@@82mattlopez i have to see for myself regarding a test drive

[@82mattlopez]

@@jbshp2011 I'm not sure but it might be the same 1.6 turbo you can get in the Soul GT and the Hyundai Elantra Sport

[@jbshp2011]

@@82mattlopez and now the soon to be 2021 elantra n line

[@tails300]

Matt Lopez no it isn’t, it’s a GDI turbo engine expect gunked up valves that need cleaning early on.

[@JimBobe]

The front/sides look like a better mustang tbh

[@nevessl998]

Still I would get an Accord 2.0t over these anyday, anytime.

[@davidkusanagi589]

For what reason? Just another sad badge warrior?

[@meisaki931]

Cant deny you get loads of good stuff for under 32k

[@mattperr4548]

Accord is hideous!

[@usmanfarid3760]

Hey Sofyan is KIA as reliable as Japanese car now a days ?

[@tails300]

No.

[@trent7080]

Nope

[@800710leonard]

According to CR, Hyundai/Kia are reliable than Honda and Nissan, and less reliable than Lexus and Toyota.

[@trent7080]

@@800710leonard Consumer Reports is not credible

[@800710leonard]

@@trent7080 Then, do you have any basis to beat CR? I have Hyundai and Kia and I am very satisfied with them. Also, I have some friends who have Hyundai and Kia for a long time with good satisfaction. Of course, they also have Japanese cars too. I think there is no regret whatever we choose. Korean and Japanese vehicles are reliable and reasonable to maintain.

[@muthulingamramiah5546]

The Kia K5 could have been made into a way more agile and better perfoming car by: 1. Giving it a proper Frt Longitudinal RWD Setup 2. Giving it a proper Sedan side profile... 3. Delete the totally unnecessary and extremely heavy Sunroof - Minus 20 - 30 kg The Kia Stinger could have been made way more agile and way faster by putting it on a diet by deleting all the unneccessary components below: 1. Delete the stupidly heavy Tailgate and replace it with a proper Bootlid and make it a proper Sports Sedan - Minus 10 - 15 Kg 2. Delete the totally unnecessary and extremely heavy Sunroof and replace it with a Carbon Fibre Roof - Minus 20 - 30 Kg 3. Delete the ugly Rear Quarter panel Reflectors - Minus Ugliness 4. Redesign the Headlights by making it it a little more elegant by removing the unneccessary downward, outer kink... - Minus Ugliness 5. Change the Steering wheel design a little - Minus blandness 6. Add Wood trim to the Interior design - Minus blandness

[@noelanderson3]

I'm mad as hell.. this car apparently is NOT coming to Australia... guess they are not going to make right hook models. So what happens, Optima disappears from the Aussie roads...argghhhhh

[@amfitness5598]

Does every small engine have to have a turbo these days? Asking for a friend...

[@udontknowmeg7254]

Probably cheaper to manufacture than a v6 or inline 6?

[@amfitness5598]

Incognito User that’s not the point. They don’t last as long.

[@heitorbernardes7977]

Always thought that Optima sounded like a cheaper Altima

[@raze2400]

Kia always been ahead of hyundai when it comes to features n better ride quality. I had a 2011 sonata n my girl had 2011 optima and she had more features n the ride was much better then mine. Took hyundai till 2014 to give the same features as my girls 2011 optima. Only down fall with kia is there service department is horrible we tried 4 different services n all was bad and stay changing management every time we go

[@991carreras3]

I saw one today and it looked must ok. That wrap around stainless strip in the back is horrible looking.

[@KittRembo]

I really don’t understand why Kia is doing this. No heated/cooled seats on GT-Line....like come on. The top of the line Forte GT with the GT2 package has them for $26k?!!

[@IReahpZz]

Ex has them for 29.its a bigger car. 3k difference isn't much to gain all the size.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

GT line is different than GT, GT line is worse than EX, and EX is worse than GT.

[@82mattlopez]

Cloth seats

[@decapitofamily3410]

K5 is the name of the car - they renamed for USDM

[@dalex7777]

DeCapito Family I’m pretty sure the badge in Korea is the same as everywhere else KIAs are sold: www.kia.com/kr/main.html The Stinger and the Mohave models have separate badging in Korea, but it is those two models’ badging, not the manufacturer’s brand. Kia has filed for a new logo mark worldwide but it is anticipated to be only for their upcoming full-electric vehicles only.

[@decapitofamily3410]

@@dalex7777 I was referring to the broken K logo they have used, I didn't realize the korean models had the KIA logo as well - From my understanding the broken K logo is used on some models only in Korea and it looks much more stylish

[@archipelago93]

There’s so much that Kia got right with this car, yet I remain puzzled with a number of its decisions, e.g.: - No AWD available on the EX - No EX-quality level interior available with the GT-Line styling - No wireless car play on the EX -Etc. C’mon Kia. You’re making it more confusing than it has to be.