The 2022 Toyota GR86 is the Best Way to Start (or Improve) Performance Driving (POV Drive Review)

[@jimbochoo3316]

I'm buying a GR86 in 2 to 3 years. I've had an NA Miata. The Miata is hard to live with in a few ways. It is cramped inside. Soft top wind noise is extreme in the highways. It's so small that SUVs and trucks don't see you when they make a turn into your lane. The GR86 is a smallish car, but it is way better to live with than a Miata.

[@tombofmar5032]

Best of luck on your journey 🤟

[@piercetm]

Just to warn you, the wind noise in the GR86 is just as bad as said by many reviewers/owners.

[@ciello___8307]

@@piercetm its better than a miata at least haha

[@Ruben-tp2se]

@@ciello___8307 we will see lol

[@stylomuerto9311]

its is bad but nothing a good exhaust or sound system wont fix.

[@notyourbusiness1352]

To those who sees this comment, Happy New Year, and I hope a better year for you awaits in which you will live your dreams and acheive your goals. Hopefully we can correct our mistakes, analyze what we did in the past and walk for the better path in the upcoming year. MilesPrHr, keep up ur content!

[@dontmindme4466]

thanks bro

[@jimbo6612]

Buddy stop trying to win brownie points from strangers on the internet. We all know you're not actually this nice in real life 🤣

[@rabidlorax1650]

@@jimbo6612 quit projecting

[@gusl9000]

@@davidgrantphelps1944 yeah he may not actually car but at the end of the day he’s tryna be positive? Why should we meet any positivity with negativity? There’s already so much negativity even if the positivity isn’t completely genuine I’d rather see positive messages then negative ones cause we could all use some positivity I think :)

[@notyourbusiness1352]

@@davidgrantphelps1944 Lol I am not a Christian and hoping for internet points. Im just a regular guy hoping the best for everybody.

[@dropd4thewin]

i own a 2020 wrx but am intrigued by the brz especially the simplicity and smaller lighter frame, the more squashed into the drivers seat the better for me

[@dock12231]

same here. really considering a trade in.

[@dude9237]

Owned both. I can confidently say I prefer the brz/frs by far

[@shootstraight91]

currently looking into changing my 2017 wrx but I feel like I can't get rid of the AWD it is just to good in the snow and I get lots of it for 4-5 months a year

[@dude9237]

@@shootstraight91 Then even I would reccomend for you to stick with the WRX or consider other AWD car options. The FRS isn't the best in the snow, I have driven it up to the mountains a multiple times and have always struggled around the snow due to it's light weight RWD

[@yes8032]

I’m loving this thing lately! Just a simple sporty coupe not too much chrome and just basic I love it

[@rindelzivas]

To me, the 86 is a kind of goldilocks car - Something like the Civic Si or a VW GTI would easily be more practical, but both are front-wheel drive. The MX-5 is an incredible driver's car, but for some, the wind noise for the soft top may not be desirable, and to say it's storage capacity is small would be an understatment. The 86 is a great compromise, though the best solution is to do what I did - Get the 86, then convince your partner to get the GTI.

[@MilesPerHr]

I'd call that a pretty accurate description!

[@davidbugarin]

It’s interesting you mention the GTI. I have a 2019 GTI Rabbit MT, and I love it. Great to drive, and more than practical. However, it is no substitute for the unique, more “thrilling” driving feel of a RWD sports car. Before my GTI, I had an 2015 FRS and it was so much fun! But didn’t make sense for my household vehicles dynamic. In an ideal situation, I would totally get the new GR86. That’s not to say the GTI isn’t fun by any means though. Just a different kind of fun in a FWD😉👍🏼

[@rindelzivas]

@@davidbugarin Oh, absolutely. I find the thrill of the GTI is more in the raw torque the EA888 puts out, and even the admittedly muted turbo spool is something that never gets old. And for long trips, nothing beats it out - Quiet on the freeway with comfortable suspension means that you can go hours and hours without getting tired. But for canyon carving or even spirited driving, the 86 is a more refined, controlled experience. The handling is just sublime, and it sits as a blank canvas - Enjoyable on its own, or with any of a number of aftermarket solutions depending on what you want to improve. They both have their place and their time, and it's a blessing to have both in my garage. ;)

[@billjames3030]

​@@MilesPerHr Excellent review. 👍 I getting a BRZ later this year. Where was this video filmed, I like the scenery and curves.

[@CitAllHearItAll]

Thank for actually driving the car like it was intended. I felt the speed for a minute there!

[@P4SDetails]

So I have read nothing but banner reviews about the BRZ / FRS / GR86 since they were released. I know there have been some changes over the last couple years to make them even better. One thing that crushes me though is that I haven’t ever been able to drive one. I guess I will just have to live vicariously through your epic walk around bru.

[@kennymartinez8418]

Why haven’t you been able to drive one? Have you gone to a dealership to test drive one?

[@P4SDetails]

@@kennymartinez8418 I just haven’t had the opportunity. I really need to just set a time and go to it specifically test one. I’ve gone out and looked, but haven’t had the opportunity to test drive one. No valid excuse though. I need to just go do it.

[@MilesPerHr]

I'm glad you enjoyed my video! But you gotta schedule a test drive :)

[@P4SDetails]

@@MilesPerHr you are telling me! Maybe once the weather clears out in Utah!

[@peterparker3668]

@@P4SDetails I just went out for a drive in my GT86 and lost the rear a few times. Larry Miller Toyota has 3 GR’s in stock but they’re automatics so not interested in those.

[@uncleiroh8665]

I finally ordered one and its the GR 86 10th Anniversary Edition in Solar Shift! I’m so excited. I’m not a very proficient in manual driving but I mustered the courage to learn more when I get it!

[@Bmontepeque11]

I know about all the greatest sports cars and super cars out there and yet, I don't have a stronger desire than the one I have for the 86 ❤️

[@MilesPerHr]

This is a true driver's car - it's worthy of the desire.

[@Bmontepeque11]

@@MilesPerHr Yes! I certainly got that vibe from your video! And thanks man! ✨ Keep up the good work! :o

[@sonnypatel3577]

This video pushed me over the edge I want this car now

[@MyGoToUserName]

They underrated the power this gen compared to last. All the dynos coming out show the car makes 210whp which is probably closer to 240-250hp crank.

[@ValkenDnB]

What dyno? Dynapack or mustang?

[@michaels4640]

@@ValkenDnB a dyno test /

[@lalu685]

@@michaels4640 bruh

[@Shinkaaaa]

@@michaels4640 bruh

[@rezz5570]

@@michaels4640 bruh

[@Crabstract21]

i just got the new brz, and i like the gr86 front end better, but the red brz interior is just so much better in every way

[@paris.v7137]

Thank for the good quality video alway!!❤️

[@crabhab]

That horn is what all Japanese cars sounded like before the 90s! Japanese classic!!! I’m 46 and remember those as new

[@MilesPerHr]

Good context, thank you!

[@ziggyz8345]

I got a 2018 civic Si recently and I gotta say, I love that car, it's the sedan, 1.5T 6spd manual, 205hp and 192torque, it's crazy fast in sport mode but also very controllable ( it's better to just experience it first hand ), and its an amazing daily driver with excellent power on demand when you gotta pass that pesky base model civic in the fast lane, and there's a ton of mods for the car. My choices were a BRZ ( got sold ): ) focus ST ( also sold ) and the civic Si which is what I got and it's the best purchase I've made in buying a car.

[@henryjz5239]

Should try a gold r stage 2 awd lol those are beast

[@dimplegarcia3416]

That’s probably a great beginners car for people learning to drive manual. It LIGHTS UP tryna tell you to change gear . Crazy’🤯! I loved my frs but def small! I had to get the wrx but sometimes miss being able to get in tight places 😎

[@mrdarlok]

Thanks for the video, great in camera/road views. It was a lovely distraction from the daily grind. i own an '13 brz and i really love it. i havent found anything since that has made me want to get a new car...but if we were living in normal times i may consider just swapping it out for the newer version.

[@MilesPerHr]

Glad you liked the video! Give this or the new BRZ a test drive and you might be convinced to upgrade

[@MElekiaZ]

I want a used gt86; for me is enougth but im sure the gr86 is better of course!

[@sparxy1968]

It's like the spirit of the Lotus Elise with the brains and scale of Toyota

[@wrinklybird6395]

I hate driving my friends around, I like sporty car, and its got an Fa24. Im in love

[@PTheGoat]

My first car is a 22 Corolla but I hope to move on to a gr86 sometime in the future before 2030. This seems like such an awesome car!

[@TheUltimateFrisbee]

Test drove one the other day and let me tell you, that gearbox is a joy lol, smooth as silk imo

[@prodgez]

I pre ordered that exact one...Comes in next week can't wait! Great vid man

[@MilesPerHr]

Congrats! I'm jealous - I wanted to keep this car so bad.

[@lawnmower6591]

How much did you pay for it

[@prodgez]

@@lawnmower6591 Out the door 38k... It came with paint protection film package which was an additional 3k and sales tax was 3.8k

[@lawnmower6591]

@@prodgez no markups??? I'm asking because I really want to get a car like this soon, but dealerships are being ridiculous right now.

[@prodgez]

@@lawnmower6591 none

[@ChefSteelofrm]

I’m just happy with real air vents that aren’t just for show

[@ronaldofabio261]

That GR 86 2022 is my dream car.

[@paulmihalcea4197]

Ordered one , comes in 2023 ....can't wait

[@SuperHacker0007]

Toyota - the only car brand that actually knows what's good and listens to the customers (Mazda too).

[@luqueymartinez5260]

probably best review I've seen so far 🤙

[@MilesPerHr]

Thanks for the support!

[@masonesplin8580]

“The changes they made to this rack are amazing!” 😂

[@euphoria_TheGreat]

Always love your content mate . Happy New Year Guys .

[@MilesPerHr]

Thank you, and Happy New Year!

[@Dragon228833]

Horn reminds me of my Miata’s horn. This is exactly how I’m gonna spec my 86

[@maxbattix]

It's really the feel of driving thanks

[@ARR0W]

This dude is the Gordon Ramsay of cars

[@MilesPerHr]

😆 I'll take it!

[@saviordream]

I currently have a 2020 MX-5 Club, and I put down a deposit for a GR86 yesterday. While the Miata is a great car, I just don't think I'm a convertible-type person. It was nice to try out, but not for me. I was actually trying to get a Camaro 2SS 1LE, as I've never had a V8 before and I wanted to try one out before they disappear, but my dealer submitted my order back in mid-November, and as of yet it hasn't been accepted by GM and the dealership has no idea when, or if, they'll get an allocation. The GR86 was my second choice because I briefly had a 2018 BRZ that I loved (before it was totaled in an accident), so I know I'll enjoy getting into the upgraded model. I'm actually keeping both the orders for the Camaro and the GR86 open, and I'll grab whichever car gets built first. Both these cars seem to be in such high demand that even if they both get built, I don't foresee the dealerships having any trouble selling whichever one I don't take.

[@JustRitschie]

greetings from Germany WE just get the the GR86 But better than nothing =) good video

[@TheMrZboy18]

I CANNOT WAIT. GET MY RAVEN BLACK in a week or two.LFGGGG

[@fpaltenhoff86]

I’m interested to see what Mazda does to compete with this eventually. The nd2 made some good improvements over the nd1 as it stands

[@korell_209]

I have a 2019 Wrx and I’m honestly thinking of trading it in for one of these 😎

[@ismaelflores7856]

I just hate that i live in Texas where theres no twisty roads and its all about straight line speed if not i would buy one in a heartbeat

[@Cichlid_Visuals]

this is s sports car that not only can teach the budding driver, but can allow the seasoned veteran to absolutely dice up far more powerful and expensive cars.

[@pedrosilva4342]

I am so in love with this car

[@hikmatranamagar9581]

Recently bought limited black line edition 2015 86😍

[@edwardgray7100]

I was debating on trading in my 2019 for a Pavement Grey 2022… This video made me go out down the deposit now I just wait 2 months 🙏🏼

[@tempestsquall5882]

How are the head gaskets on these new Subaru motors I wonder, otherwise this would be an instant buy for me.

[@ericyang3212]

if you plan on leaving it n/a, you’re fine. If you want to boost it… good luck

[@jeeps005]

the sound is simulated but it can be easily unplugged

[@hondacivic2295]

Eight Six best car ever

[@mitchjames9350]

Imagine how good it be with a performance exhaust, new header, cold intake, turbo and a tune.

[@Erafune]

I know right. 1% better. Nah just kidding. It would be 2% better. And 5K more expensive. And lost it's warranty. And 10% less resale value. It's amazing how good it is.

[@nathanguerrero2219]

This guy is having too much fun with this car

[@MilesPerHr]

Not going to deny that!

[@scoobycrush9231]

It looks like it moves pretty fast. Nice.

[@mdrsalgado]

Great review. Might have to get one. Thanks.

[@MilesPerHr]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tombofmar5032]

Can’t wait to see the turbo builds with this car 😍

[@404nobrakes]

You're almost certainly not going to see anything that's bolt-on + pump gas. The engine is strung out. Piston swaps or E85 will be necessary to make significant gains.

[@michaels4640]

Just buy a Supra at that point

[@rotor13]

@@404nobrakes Greddy/Trust and HKS both have turbo kits in development and they're already touting 320whp on pump gas and low boost. HKS also has a centrifugal supercharger kit making 300whp. There's nothing "strung out" about this motor just yet, as no one knows the limits of the engine. Also an FYI - the FA24 turbo that is in the Subaru Ascent, is practically the same except block - just with no turbo. Which already comes built with forged internals. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that the upper limit of this N/A block, with a bolt-on turbo kit is roughly 400hp. In a car that weighs right just under 3000lbs and with its small dimensions - is plenty to make the car feel REALLY good. The magic number people were begging for in a Turbo FRS/86/BRZ - is 280-300hp. Which is definitely doable.

[@mrthangowme]

@@michaels4640 Yes let us pay nearly $200,000 for a chassis and engine not worth anywhere near that much. Supras are nowhere near the best car to turbocharge regardless.

[@michaels4640]

@@mrthangowme I meant the new surpras. The GR86 is basically a lower version of the 2.0 Supra. That’s what Toyota did and why they didn’t turbo this car because then no one would buy the Supra.

[@jawzblaze]

Thank you! Great video

[@razeenaldahabi5194]

I got dizzy from camera angel , hope u make it better, but love ur vids man keep it up

[@lronSausage]

i flinch every time he drops his entire hand and arm on the shift knob.

[@petermartin9494]

The Toyota has it's suspension set up to have less understeer and be more tail happy than the Subaru...

[@rastradamus1074]

This might have to be purchased

[@FR-ku2bb]

It looks a very interesting entry level sport car. Nice review! What about the acceleration? Is it powerful at all the range?

[@MilesPerHr]

The acceleration is good for this price point, but with this car (like the Miata), it's way more than a 0-60 car. It's a joy to drive at all speeds.

[@emerica21321]

5:09 I thought this man was cruising in Minecraft with that tree on the left of the road

[@denimjeanz916]

Went and got me a Cadillac CT5 2021. New and love it. My girl got the 86 in Neptune blue. This car is fun to drive. Sport mode just gives you that manual feel. Think better she went auto, a lot more rare and wider market for resell.

[@johns9904]

Looks really fun to drive

[@MilesPerHr]

It was a blast!

[@nn99nn99]

GR86 Manual 0-60 is faster than ND Miata Manual

[@guiltyspark652]

Motortrend numbers GR86 Manual 5.8 ND2 ST 0-60 5.7 ND2 RF 0-60 5.8

[@cryptical6403]

I saw some guy practice it n got it to 5.3 secs on the 86 crazy how underrated the car is going to be

[@alexandram9477]

I'm not sure Miata is always the answer. What if it's going to be your only car? I think the BRZ/GR86 is the only answer if you have 30K and want RWD!

[@Janshevik]

two years ago also bmw 1 was the answer

[@billybones2385]

@Dmetsys Speak for yourself. Nobody cares about the cost of parts in new cars.

[@Janshevik]

@Dmetsys now even that is gone, so yes it is money waster now :/ 3 series is another thing, I would rather get a Kia then. Also in my country we still produce RWD cars for about 10000€ :D

[@ChocPretz]

I’d love to get one of these but I just hate the exhaust sound. Not like my Miata is any better. It certainly looks more livable.

[@toronado455]

Do we just automatically call any car's backseat a "second row" now because of SUV mentality? 😂

[@MilesPerHr]

Ha! I review so many SUVs it's definitely become a habit.

[@GachaRuby]

I don't know if I want to make this decision, but this GR86 is showing how amazing it is (especially for a beginner it seems) and for a first car its kinda intriguing to me. What the h do I do lol? This video is fantastic at highlighting the car and what it can do on a normal road.

[@MilesPerHr]

It's a great first car!

[@yungrichnbroke5199]

Who can afford $30k as a first car?

[@unclepython5186]

@@yungrichnbroke5199 realistically you don’t pay $30k all at once so it isn’t too bad. As long as you have a stable job it really ain’t that bad!! All depends on where you want your money to go lol

[@EvaSlash]

Do you feel safe driving this small car? It's just so low and small on the highway surrounded by huge trucks...

[@misaka4710]

As a delivery driver i can confirm small cars like a miata are difficult to spot so the 86 will most likely be difficult for us to see as well

[@MilesPerHr]

Having ridden motorcycles for years, I operate on the assumption others don't see me (doesn't matter what I'm driving). That tactic has saved me from being hit numerous times

[@noahmatthew6658]

I’m glad it’s a little faster than the old one because the old one was too slow. I gapped one in my dads stock civic si with the 1.5t. Same hp by the extra torque blew it away

[@tbbbo]

11:36, it's funny to hear you talk about starting prices when here in Canada the 86 starts at $1,995 more than the BRZ... I hate that I had to love the 86's styling more than the BRZ's

[@MilesPerHr]

I didn't realize that! Darn!

[@kuladeeluxe]

@@MilesPerHr Canadians are getting quite a deal on the BRZ. After currency conversion it comes to about $22,800 USD for the base BRZ.Of course they are sold out. About $25,500 for the one you tested.Phenominal deal. Your mountain road drive was exactly what this car is about. Total balance in this package.

[@JFXtreme96]

This car has just been up’d a level. I call it the Dino treatment. They did the same with the Dino 206 going to the famous Dino 246. And similar again with the 944 going on to be the 944 S2, just making an already amazing recipe better with more torque and a little more bhp.

[@i_read_bad_reviews]

Nahhh skip the performance package. Get the wheels of your choice aftermarket and get the seats of your choice later.

[@hiro6406]

looks perfects. It doesn't look like a child's toy, but not underdone either.

[@jpizel1070]

Please do a POV on the new Z car when it's available.

[@MilesPerHr]

I plan to!

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nice rev

[@MilesPerHr]

Thanks!

[@DustinTavo]

I’ve heard disabling the horn shaves .5 seconds off the 0-60. Haha freaking scooter horn.

[@TheLambo123254]

great vid!

[@MilesPerHr]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@realmomonipue]

im getting this car

[@DriverGuy23]

The driver seat is not one motion to move it forward because you don’t want to lose your seat setting when your just putting your jacket in the backseat.

[@alabdel1388]

I think the opposite, as far as which package you should get (base or premium). Since it is rare to find this car without a bs markup right now, you're actually smarter getting the base package and upgrading from there.

[@Balithazzarr]

Very comprehensive

[@윤성민-q6s]

RWD, NA boxer, manual gearbox, hand operated mechanical parking brake, no fake carbon-looking plastics or fake intakes or fake exhaust or speaker generated sounds and everything. This car looks almost perfect except the engine start BUTTON and full digital instrument

[@BigBoyz33]

i'll never understand why Toyota didn't make a inline 4 exclusive to this platform

[@jon7926]

This looks so much better than the Subaru BRZ. Nice.

[@shrekatemypickle8852]

santiago canyon?? anyways awesome review!

[@abdoun8214]

Yes bois.. A MANUAL TRANSMISSION! Edit: Oh no.. A digital gauge ..

[@yoheeehzee]

I know right... The one thing I will be looking to fix on this is the fake sound and the "racing" gauge you get when switched to track mode. It just looks weird to me. They could have just left the circular RPM gauge there.

[@abdoun8214]

@@yoheeehzee totally agree , that LCD screen just doesn't feel like you driving a real car .. Let's be real here , futuristic technology is good only when you find the right place for it , but in this case , no thanks imma stick with old cars..

[@amirnikdel9306]

i buy the GR86 as daily in snow lol miata with soft top be for summer

[@timw2083]

This seems to be close to the S2000 in many aspects

[@josephcanche8744]

imma short king at 5’5 and my family is shorter than me so we good lol

[@kenadid794]

i dont know how to drive manual (i know how to drive auto) and i want to learn but the thing is this car would be my first car and i would also want to drift it.

[@MilesPerHr]

It's a good car to learn manual in

[@kenadid794]

@@MilesPerHr I hear that messing up the “clutch” is a common thing for learners would that also be a thing here as well?

[@xxhummerxx3]

Back end reminds me of 9th gen accord coupe

[@inaNis_]

The dashboard reminds me a lot of the mr2 spider

[@IDrag123]

I just want the car to build a dream car out of it lol

[@danielwright5031]

I live in Texas and cant find a dealership that sells one! Where did you get yours???

[@MilesPerHr]

I don't own any of the vehicles shown on my channel. These are all loans from the automakers.

[@SFterps]

Those wheels look amazing although they’re really narrow

[@SaadNabil]

New subscriber.

[@MilesPerHr]

Thanks for subbing!

[@Basih]

This chassis deserve an additional two cylinders imo.

[@growingup4487]

go buy a supra

[@Basih]

@@growingup4487 I've already had an auto sports car and it's not fun....

[@Jesterrr21]

400 Z says hello

[@Cernold]

Dude there is polish car channel autowizja that uses exactly same format, same intro with moving camera up, same key presentation and same hand held presentation

[@Janshevik]

I prefer Marek though

[@escobarpablo9730]

Topspeed of this new model??

[@Ichivise]

Sadly there's no premium MT edition in my country.

[@potatochobit]

my dude, the competition that i am considering is GR86 or KONA N or Maverick or alfa romeo (gently used.)

[@MilesPerHr]

Interest selection of vehicles - all very different. Maverick + GR86 would be a killer two-car garage.

[@wascicielmieszkaniapanrado9020]

Looks more like supra than new supra

[@bliglum]

One of these with a turbo thrown on is tempting.

[@connordunckel8544]

Nah just throw some bolt ons and tune for ethanol is all that’s needed

[@bliglum]

@@connordunckel8544 Oh yeah? What are people seeing with bolt-ons, ecu tune/flash etc? N/A responsiveness is always a plus.

[@connordunckel8544]

@@bliglum haven’t seen much yet but with intake/exhaust and e60-85 last gen people were seeing 300 at the wheels I thought, so an e30 tune on this would probably be similar. Honestly these things are quick enough to take through some twisty roads and have enough fun